Small croc recaptured and released

| 28/09/2009

(CNS): A small crocodile captured on Sunday (27 September) was the same animal that was previously caught at the end of January this year in a shallow canal between Vulgunner’s Pond and the North Sound and released into suitable habitat well removed from people, according to the Department of Environment. It was spotted again yesterday on the marl boat ramp at the end of the Marina canal and immediately fled into the water. However, it was recaptured by DoE staff, who have once more relocated the animal to suitable habitat in an unpopulated location.

After the 3-foot reptile was caught in January, it was temporarily held in captivity while the DoE consulted with crocodile experts in the United States and elsewhere. It was identified as an American crocodile (Crocodylus acutus), of which there are large populations in Cuba, Jamaica and Florida and whose range includes the Cayman Islands. Using the American Crocodile-Human Interaction Response Plan of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission as a guide, the DoE released the animal but, unfortunately, the animal once again found its way into the presence of humans.

Given the details of the recent crocodile sightings reported to the DoE from the West side of Grand Cayman it does not appear that this released animal was the source of those reports, the department said.

According to the DoE, crocodiles are a natural if unusual part of Cayman’s fauna. Experience in other countries has shown that American crocodiles are normally shy and reclusive and if not bothered by people will normally not cause a problem. Most reported injuries from this species of crocodile occur when people try to capture or otherwise handle them, so it is clearly not recommended to approach any crocodile you may be fortunate enough to see.

If anyone wishes to report a sighting of a crocodile or other large marine creature in the Cayman Islands the Department of Environment is happy to receive such reports (DoE@gov.ky, 949-8469) and add them to our large marine creatures database, including any pictures which could be used to identify the animal.
 

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  1. RAWWRRRRRRRR says:

    They are nice shoes but if i see this croc in my yad bloodz i going ra$$ him up ok   D>0>E> ???? he’s gone Poof and you all can buy the casket also cuz you care for them so much; why not carry him to the turtle farm for attraction rather than let him loose again?? do yall like to be in the paper that much trying to be Jeff Corwin?? Croc hunter?? or just wait till someone gets Yam up then he would only get 11 Years for manslaughter then yall let him out again as an adult LMAO!!! you all are idiots!!!!

  2. Anonymous says:

    I hope to god that Cayman is not going to be infested with Crocs. I wont be taking my vacation there if it does!

    Tourists will not travel to Cayman if crocs are around!

     

  3. LaAdyMaze says:

    "I am often ashamed to call myself a Caymanian."

    Then maybe you should try on another culture on for size see if something’s better suited lol…i’ve heard some ignorant things said and some horrendous things done in our little country but never in my life have i been ashamed to be Caymanian. 

    Anyhooo…Crocodile’s huh, hmmm interesting.  Well we were never really been a country of indigenous ppls but of indigenous creatures why not this crocodile.  But it should definitely be monitored hmmm why don’t we stick hunks of cement and an antenna on it’s backs like we did with those bunch of turtles that time lol if that endangers it, well it’s not from here anyway lol

    If it does threaten a tourist i hope it scares the naananaa outta one of those who like to walk 10ft away the pedestrian crossing rather than on it. Or or oooor those that like to shop lift, litter, walk 3 feet in front of their very young prepubescent children…basically those that choose to leave their brains at home and take their scantly clad bodies on vacation

  4. Voice of Reason says:

    People! Wake Up!

    Can I just say, this past Sunday I saw a group of crocs on the SMB near the old Hyatt along with a bunch of other people including some tourists. These were not small crocs like the one caught recently but were 6 foot plus! One swam very close to the beach right where people were swimming, the rest stuck around for over an hour about 100 yards offshore. There were at least four or five of them, and they WERE NOT Sunfish.

    All it takes is one croc with an attitude to chomp on one swimmer and its all over for the stay-over tourist industry in Cayman. Why take the risk? A lot of people depend on the tourism industry, and I’m sorry if crocs were here first, but in 2009 the crocs have to take a back seat. I’m not saying they should be killed and BBQ’d, but let’s just move them away from the prime tourist beach in Cayman! 

    Is anyone else with me?

    Voice of Reason

     

     

  5. Soul Food says:

    It has recently been established that this Croc, the last time he was caught, was trained only to eat expatriate civil servants, their spouses and offspring. The rest of us are safe. Now can he stay? Status even?

  6. Joe Average says:

    I wonder is this poor creature has any idea what concern it’s caused.

    Noxious fumes pouring from the dump, diesel exhaust, dying reefs, global warming, gun toting killers, drunken drivers, drugs, maniacs on the road, an economy in a shambles and we’re worried about a young crocodile?  Have we lost our sense of balance?

  7. A Message from the Crown says:

    To My Loyal Caymanian Subjects:

    By now I trust you have come to realise that we will go to any measure to destroy you.   We are pretty sure we have hit the financial sector quite nicely, and will continue to find ways to implement our master plan to fully destroy you and the other offshore jurisdictions.  (Jersey, and Guernsey excluded,of course.)

    I hope you have enjoyed our first shot at the tourism industry.  The second batch of reptiles should arrive within the next few weeks, and with luck, one of them will sink their teeth into a tourist.  My only hope is that it is not a Brit, but, if it is, so be it. 

    We all look forward to seeing the fruits of our labours.

    Signed,

    Your Mother.

  8. Anonymous says:

    I say…KEEP THE CROCODILE, and get rid of most of you ignorant people on here. I would rather live right alongside a croc than alongside many of you. Sad, so sad.

    I bet Christopher Colombus had the same ideologies as many of you. He probably said something like….We must get rid of these Taino and Arawak Indians. They are dangerous.

  9. Anonymous says:

    if i see him in my yard he is dead

  10. Anonymous says:

    Many of you who post on here are ignorant beyong belief. I am often ashamed to call myself a Caymanian. Some of you need to travel a bit. This will reduce your ignorance and stupidity. The crocs here were not stomped out by natutal powers that be. Humans drove them to extinction here and now you are suprised they are reclaiming territory that they once had? Left to half of you morons…there wouldnt be a single shark left in these waters. hell…kill the Cayman parrot while we are at it…they can bite after all. And those iguanas…and turtles. Terrible creatures

    • Anon says:

      You’re the one that’s ignorant! I hope when the croc gets bigger and starts roaming around our backyards that he shows up in yours first! Wonder if you will be running off your mouth then about how ignorant and stupid everyone else was when they were just voicing their opinion about a potentially lethal situation, or just running! And comparing the Cayman parrot to a crocodile is like comparing apples to oranges! We are all well aware of the fact that humans drove them to extinction, but don’t you realize that obviously that happened for a reason! These things have the potential to kill! Oh and your one or two trips to Miami each year doesn’t qualify you as a well travelled person either so if you don’t know what you’re talking about please SHUT UP, because all you do is confirm who the real ignorant stupid person is!

      • Anonymous says:

        Sorry – anyone who types "SHUT UP" to prove their point, sure is desparate to prove that point(!) – and your sage point is "don’t you realize that obviously (extinction of the crocodiles) happened for a reason!" – yes, maybe the same reason the turtles and the grouper etc etc were pushed to the brink of extinction. If you are so wise, why can’t you convince anyone of the merits of your opinion without telling them to "SHUT UP"? Maybe you should just take your own advice?

        • Anon says:

          You do need to SHUT UP! You come on here insulting people and talking about your ashamed to be a Caymanian because people say they don’t want these crocodiles around. Where is your proof that they are not a threat? Instead of insulting everyone, provide the proof that you so wish for me to provide to you that they are NOT a threat and I will provide my side of the argument stating that these crocodiles can potentially be a threat. Have you seen the stray dogs and cats eating out of garbage bins on the island? Do you think they want to eat out of the garbage bin? No, I’m sure they don’t but when they do not have the proper food to eat and they are hungry they eat whatever they find! WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN TO A 6FT, 8FT, 10FT CARNIVORUS ANIMAL WHEN HE CAN’T FIND ANY FOOD TO EAT? I don’t care what you or anyone else thinks about these animals being shy or docile and whatever other crazy notions you all try to think up for an animal that only eats meat! My opinion is when this animal gets bigger than you and me put together and it gets hungry and it has eaten all the fish, birds, stay dogs, cats and iguanas, YOU and me will be next on his list! Call me a sensationalist. Who cares! The green iguanas come here and they took over this island in just a few short years! You can’t drive along the road without running over one. What do you think will happen to the crocodiles that you so wish to protect and insult everyone over? If you can’t take what you give, then yes I say shut up until you have something constructive to say! Otherwise don’t come on here and insult people’s opinions! Offer something constructive or SHUT UP!

  11. Anonymous says:

    I noticed that some countries are diversifying their tourism product by offering croc fishing. I do not think that this is a good plan for Cayman, irrespective of what our stay-over tourism numbers indicate. 

    I would prefer that the DOE caught this croc humanely and sent it back to whereever it came from. However if they do not want to remove it from our waters then it would appear that a medium weight rod, stainless steel leader and piece of rotting chicken may provide an alternative means. For anyone interested there are lots of videos showing croc fishing techniques on the internet.

  12. Richard Wadd says:

     Yes, crocodiles WERE a naturally occurring species here, but that was when the North Sound was teeming with fish and turtle, and humans were almost never encountered.

     Now we have far less fish reserves, no turtle to speak of, PLENTY more people, Stingray city sandbar (or should I say SNACKBAR) where we FEED stingrays (food in the water, hmmmm, I wonder what you think attracted it to the Marina, where fishing boats are plentiful, maybe people cleaning fish?).

     Sorry DOE (or maybe it’s DUH?), the time of the croc has passed in these waters. ANY croc here now is an invasive species, and should either be;

    a). Deported, or

    b). Bar-b-q’d.

     I for one am in favour of the latter, GOOD stuff, Yum !

     

    • Anon says:

      For once I agree with you Richard Wadd.

    • Moat um says:

      I won’t one to put in the moat I am building around my castle..let them stay and breed so we all can get one for protection from the criminal element..after that we can eat them…that a diversified economy

    • Anonymous says:

      Keep it. Feed it the Green Iguanas. Problem solved!

  13. YUM, YUM! says:

    Seems like the crock talk is back, so here is my two cents… Government appears to be choosing the lesser of two evils and washing their hands of this crock.  They very well know that they are “dammed if they do” & “dammed if they don’t”. Unfortunately they are mistaken in the thinking that the “dammed if they do” is a bigger issue. The “dammed if they don’t” may only appear to be a few paranoid crock haters, but the actuality of the matter is; having crocodiles in these waters (touristville) is way too risky, those who say not should be the first to encounter MOM & POP out on a hunting spree and don’t kid your self thinking they only had or will have one poor little baby crocodile. No, I think Government is more banking that they will do nothing and someone will do their job for them and perhaps invite them for Sunday lunch. Classic sweep it under the rug or into the closet until it burst at the seams approach that they take to many matters.

    And by the way what is the big deal about eating them, (unless you are vegetarian) we eat the turtles & they are on an endangered list. I personally would not eat it but my husband would put a licking on that crock and ask for more. So, if you do catch it, you can sell just about anything on ecaytrade.com, I will check Restaurant Specials from ECAY5PM each Friday to see if its there. Crocodile [Caiman] Tenderloin Meat sells for: $29.99 on the web.
    • Anon says:

      I agree with you. I seriously do not understand the rationale of the powers that be with this situation. SOMETHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN! When are you people going to wake up and realize that and do something about it. Just because it’s not a problem right now, don’t mean that it won’t be a problem when these animals get bigger and they start breeding! These islands are too small for crocodiles and people to live together is harmony. There are a few pea brains out there talking about how this is not an issue or stop hating! YOU PEOPLE GET A BRAIN AND SHUT UP! This is a serious problem and it’s going to have devastating consequences for these islands if something is not done about it!

      • Bit of common sense says:

        Exactly – you should get a brain and perhaps a set of …., this is NOT a dangerous creature -there are 2000 of them living in Florida and in the past many more than that, and not one has EVER attacked a human (including children)! how is this so difficult to understand.

        And one more thing, ‘mom’ and ‘dad’ crocs DO NOT stay together and ‘mom’ croc has nothing to do with baby croc after it has emerged from its egg. They are not a ‘loving family unit’ living in the North sound!!!!! Grow up.

        This island is big enough for thousands of sharks and people to live together in harmony, why is it not big enough for one croc and people to live together??

         

        • Sav/New says:

          Last time I checked. Sharks do not have four legs to crawl around on land. Crocodiles on the other hand has both options.  

        • Anon says:

          Well "Bit of common sense"…obviously you are lacking in that department so you should probably find a different user name. Sharks live in the ocean. People live on land. We will only encounter sharks if we chose to go in the water. Crocodiles can live on land and can and will hunt for food on land! Do you see where I’m going with this??? Yes there maybe 2000 living in Florida as you’ve said, but I bet you they are not living on South Beach! They are mainly in areas where there are hardly any people. In the Everglades. Notice I said "mainly". Grand Cayman is no where near the size of Florida. People have less changes of meeting a croc in the wild in Florida in a rural area than they will on this tiny little island! Oh and I don’t know who was talking about mom crocs and dad crocs, but it wasn’t me, so try to stick to insulting one person’s opinion at a time why don’tyou. Maybe you need to grow up because you’re not making any sense what-so-ever when you say it’s not a dangerous creature. Do you not have a tv at home?? Haven’t you ever watched Animal Planet, Crocodile Hunter, Discovery Channel, National Geographic?? Oh and another thing, I certainly hope I don’t grow a pair of ………because I’d consider that a sin against nature at this point!

          • Bit of common sense says:

            For the last time – this is not an Australian Saltwater Croc or a Nile Croc or an Alligator, why are you finding this so hard to understand. It is a different species all together. Much like people and baboons are different species within the same Order, American crocs and other crocs are different species within the same order. Giant pandas and Grizzily bears are different species within the same order though you wouldn’t classify pandas quite as dangerous as a Grizzily would you?????

            They are not looking for you on land – they are primarily a fish eating crocodilian. Yes other crocodiles come onto land to feed but not the American Crocodille.

            Instead of just watching Animal Planet, Crocodile Hunter, Discovery Channel, National Geographic, why not try learning something from them!!!! or better yet pick up a book and read. This is NOT a man eating croc! Of cause if we had a Saltie swimming around in our waters ,i would be the first to encourage a quick capture and lock up of the animal BUT it is a completely different species with a completely different feeding habit.

            Finally no offense meant on the ‘grow a set of ….’ comments, you’re quite right, no one would want that, unless of couse you are a South African runner!! joke.

             

            • Anon says:

              Well  Bit of Common Sense, that was a much better and informative post. Eases the tension a little, but I still consider anything with more teeth and a bigger mouth than mine dangerous. And I do happen to read alot thank you very much, just not about potential maneaters.

              Oh and the South African thing….LMAO…too funny….btw…is it a man or woman?

    • Croc Pot says:

      This Croc is a PPM plant. They released him/her to wreak havoc on the UDP Administration, just you wait until it’s cousins, siblings and parents start appearing too.

      What in the name of Jesus does a Croc have to do with the Government? You have in your ignorance once again identified one of the biggest problems. Many want Government to be involved in everything, most of which they have no business being involved in. Your wishes bring with them a cost which all must bare.

      Before we go any further with all this revenue collecting/cost cutting, someone really needs to define the role of the Government. Quite sure that would go a long way to helping.

       

  14. Bit of common sense says:

    Once and for all – this is not an alligator, this is an American Crocodile, In Florida it is the alligators that cause all the problems, NOT the American Crocodile. That crocodile is as closely related to the alligator as humans are to baboons to give you some perspective. No attacks by American Crocodiles on humans has EVER occurred in Florida (or anywhere in the US). They eat small fish and birds on the whole unlike Alligators which are far more opportunistic hunters.

    And what is this ridiculous obsession with the crocodile wondering around on the roads causing accidents???

    The sharks of Cayman are far larger, more numerous and more dangerous than this crocodile and no one in their right mind would propose we do them any harm.

    And finally, much like humans, it takes two crocodiles to make baby crocodiles, there is only one confirmed croc here. 

    Why are there so many cowards on this board? this is a harmless animal, you are letting your ignorance drive your fear. Not entirely sure God wants you to kill every animal and destroy every natural habitat that he has created?

    Why are there so many cowards on this board? this is a harmless animal, you are letting your ignorance drive your fear. Not entirely sure God wants you to kill every animal and destroy every natural habitat that he has created?

     

  15. Edwards says:

    He’s just a baby, soooooo  to me that means mama and papa is somewhere nearby. Remember a few days ago people saw a pair of crocs in the water off SMB, only to be told by DOE that is was SUNFISH.

    Yea right, sunfish my a**! That was mommy & daddy croc out hunting for food, for little croc.

    • Anonymouse says:

      Wow, I didn’t know that crocodile babies were that big or that the parents fed them at all. You must be a real crocodile expert. Perhaps you could share some of your wealth of information with the rest of us so we’ll be as well read up on crocs as you are.

      • Edwards says:

        So I am idiot??? well if that is a full grown croc you must have made that one your self.  The fact is you are missing the point, that croc did noot get here by a puff of magic, there is a mommy & daddy, and since you need some info heres some. Hope CNS have the space.

         

        AMERICAN CROCODILE
        Class: Reptilia
         
        There are 22 species of living crocodilians belonging to a single family (the Crocodylinae) within the Order Crocodilia. In this order are three subfamilies; Alhgatorinae (contains Alligators and caimans), Crocodilinae ("true" crocodiles) and Gavialinae (gharial and false gharial). The American Crocodile, Crocodylus acutus, found in the subfamily Crocodilinae, is thought to have inhabited Jamaica from the time of the islands formation when it drifted away from other land masses. Crocodiles and their kin have been on the earth for over 200 million years with hardly a change in their body form.
        The American Crocodile range from central Mexico south through parts of Central America and northern South America to northern Peru on its Pacific coastline and Venezuela on its Caribbean coastline. In addition, they are present in extreme southern Florida, Cuba, Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Crocodiles are primarily coastal animals in nature inhabiting wetlands, brackish bays, lakes and the lower reaches of large rivers.
        While in most areas they were widespread and often in abundance, they are now severely depleted throughout its range within the last century, mainly due to hunting for skins but aggravated by habitat loss. One of the most dense population is in Lago Enriquillo in the Dominican Republic where 175 to 250 adults may remain.
        One of Jamaica’s largest reptile, the American Crocodile can be seen on the Royal Helmet and Mantles on the Jamaican Coat of Arms and as such it is a part of our natural heritage.
        The development of any management strategy for the American crocodile must take into account the following likely influences:-
        The extent to which they are hunted.
        The duration and effectiveness of protective legislation.
        The extent to which the crocodile population have recovered.
        Peoples perception of crocodiles.
        In the strategy to manage the crocodile population, one aim is to preserve the species and thus re-establish a viable population in the wild or where the species can’t recover substantially ecology.
         
        Ecology
        The crocodile is a large lizard-shaped reptile and has a strong muscular tail, four short legs and five toes on each foot. Their backs are covered with bony plates called osteodermis and these form a dorsal armour on their body. Adults are grayish-green on the back and tail, and have a white or yellowish underside, while young crocodiles have dark cross bands on their back and tail. The snout of the crocodile is narrow and triangular, and when closed the fourth tooth is exposed. At the end of the snout are the nostrils. On the top of the head, behind the eyes, are the ear drums. A movable flap of skin protects the ear drums. The position of the eyes, ear drums and nostrils allows the crocodile to be partially submerged exposing only the top its head, and yet still being able to see, hear and breathe. Male crocodiles are larger than females and range in size from 6-12 feet.
         Distribution and Habitat
        In Jamaica, crocodile habitats are mainly concentrated in the southern section of the island within mangrove swampsand marshes, shallow sea bays and brackish to saline lagoons. There are large fresh water swamps and peat marsh systems along the Black River and in Negril, but otherwise there are few freshwater wetlands of any major significance.
         Food and Growth
        The adult crocodile’s jaw has conically pointed teeth which interlock and are therefore more suitable for grabbing, holding and tearing prey, rather than cutting or chewing. They have good teeth replacement as reserve teeth are continually growing and push out the older worn tooth. Food is crushed and torn into large chunks and then swallowed. It takes approximately 72 hours for food eaten to be digested and eliminated as waste.
        Crocodiles eat any living or dead animal including humans. The bigger they are the larger the prey. Adults can successfully hunt larger animals, including small- mammals, fish, turtles, birds and crustaceans. The larger animals arecrushed by a series of bites along their length. Hatchlings and young crocodiles eat mainly small prey – insects, snails, frogs, crustaceans and small fish.
        Crocodiles do not have a regular constant diet. Temperature is one factor that affects their feeding habit. The animal eating habit varies with body temperature. The crocodile consumes less than its normal intake on a hot day. It is also documented that cooler temperatures decrease the rate of digestion in a crocodile. Due to the slow rate of digestion, energy conservation is a must. Additional energy is conserved by raising the body temperature in activities suchas basking. This enables the crocodile to survive even when food is scarce.
        • Anonymouse says:

          Ah, thank you for the reference from the Jamaican National Environment & Planning Agency; the agency in Jamaica which protects crocodiles and encourages their continued co-existence with people. – I notice from the full text of the website that "Hatchlings thus disperse rapidly, making their departure from the nesting site and begin to fend for themselves." Which disproves the earlier submission that momy and dady croc were "out hunting for food, for little croc". – A little bit of knowledge is indeed a wonderful thing. Thank you for the helpfull reference.

  16. Caymanians for logic says:

    DOE is totally out of order here. This is not a protected specie, is dangerous to animals and humans (even if they are scared at first they are opportunistic and eat hundreds of domestic animals in florida and a few children as well) and not of Cayman.

     

    We need to ensure that Mrs. Petrie and DOE staff are fully responsible for any human loss of life in the future from this animal.  I suggest the DOE provides the Cayman Islands with a irrevocable bond in the order of $100,000,000 for payment to those damaged in the future.  If this is not possible, I suggest that they find it, catch it again and remove it from the Cayman Islands…or eat it…I understand they are great as deep fried nuggets.

     

    What next, we should reintroduce venomous snakes (also found in our geographic area)??  what about returning our simple mosquito in droves???  … probably not as Mrs. Petrie’s husband would be out of a job.

     

    Caymanians please lets get real or we will soon have another green iguana disaster here, this one with a bit more bite.

     

     

    • Anon says:

      This morning I was driving on to the round about by the Red Bay Esso gas station coming from town and this very large iguana walked out in front of my car. He was orange, grey and brown I think. Really big one. I had to stopped suddenly. Luckily the truck and van behind me were far enough behind to stop in time so as to no cause an accident. This huge iguana just stood there in the middle of the road. I indicated to let the people behind me know what I was doing and drove around it. When the truck passed by it ran out of the road. That could have been something serious this morning had I not been paying attention to the road for example. Now what if that had been a crocodile? In a public area once again and causing potential traffic accidents! This situation is a ticking time bomb and to let these things run freely around this island is a careless, irresponsible, stupid mistake on the part of everyone who can do something to change it!

    • Anon says:

      I agree with you. I don’t know what Mrs. Petrie and those people at DOE are thinking! They need to be held fully responsible for opening pandora’s box on this situation! There is a carnivore! It eats meat! It doesn’teat grass! There is a reason why they don’t exist here anymore. Get rid of it before something terrible happens.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Anyone who uses the word "extincted" can’t be taken seriously! lol

    Crocodiles were here in Cayman before people. Humans beings are selfish creatures at times. Here in Florida, you don’t see aligators getting carted off to Brazil everytime they are found. Because Caymanians have been raised on an island few to no naturally occuring dangerous animals, they don’t know how to handle it. The fact is that, that particular species of crocodillian does NOT predate on animals as large as humans.

    Cayman, drop the ignorance. Not only do so many of you vent your ignornace  to other people, but also to animals! So sad

  18. Anonymous says:

    Where the heck has it been released to?? Back into the wild so it can mate and reproduce! Lord have mercy, what are these people at DOE doing? Ms. Petrie…do you think saying "I am sorry" will fix anything when this animal gets big enough to eat chickens, cats, small dogs and then some poor unfortunate human being! Shame on you people! These animals became extinct here for a reason why are you people giving this animal the opportunity to breed?! This island is too small for crocodiles and humans to live together that’s why they are extinct! Get rid of this crocodile before it becomes a problem you can’t fix! Because it will be on your head and the whole DOE if this situation gets out of hand and someone loses their life because you all neglected to nip this situation in the bud!

    • Anonymous says:

      Let me get this straight, DOE removed the croc from a public area and then released it where there are no people, and you want to blame DOE for the croc? Okay – that makes about as much sense as the rest of your post. The "reason" they became extinct is because people hunted them to extinction – but maybe you think that when people killthings it is always with good reason? Here is something for you to chew over – there are 9,000 deaths each year in the US from food-poisioning, zero deaths from these crocodiles – so before you bemoan the loss of the odd chicken, maybe you should consider that improperly prepared chicken is quite likely to be your last meal, in compariosn to you being a starter for a croc. We all fear dying in sensation ways… but most of us will have to make do with boring. 

      • Anon says:

        I think you mean "sensational ways". And yes I do blame DOE! If they removed the croc once before from places where there are people and the croc found its way back to a place where there are people do you not think the croc will find its way back yet again to another place where there are people. Or are you not smart enough to see the logicin that? If you think that croc will only eat chickens then I beg you PLEASE collect all the stray crocs on the island so far and keep them in your back yard PLEASE! Along with the chickens, your pet cat and dog and your kids! And tell me how it goes from there. I would feel alot safer knowing I or my children are not potentially going to be lunch for these animals.

        • Anonymous says:

          Thank you, I did mean "sensational" I guess that was a typo. If you feel unsafe – fair enough… but why not do some research for yourself before spreading your fear around? Try searching the web for "American crocodile death"… see what you get. I found

          "In Florida, only one crocodile attack on a human has been documented, and that occurred in 1925, when a 14-footer reared up and seized a Biscayne Bay surveyor after he reportedly had fired two bullets into the animal."

          If, however, you get lots of information about how dangerous the crocs are, please feel free to reply to my post and critisize my typing some more 😉

          • Anon says:

            Prevention is better the cure. What part of that simple fact do you not understand. It doesn’t matter what happened in Florida. This is NOT Florida. We are not used to having these animals around anymore. And how long do you think it will take for these animals to overrun this tiny island? You think because it’s one or two or three now, it’s ok! They reproduce! There will be more. Have you seen how the green iguanas have taken over this island? How long do you think it will be before the crocodile does that? It’s a good thing the green iguanas don’t eat people because we would have all been extinct already.

            • Anonymous says:

              Hello Anon. I understand "prevention" and "cure". Prevent what? "Nature?" Cure what? "The environment?". "How long will it take the crocs to overrunn this tiny island?"  – the answer is probably "they never will". Native creatures do not generally overrun their natural environments – (except people, of course)  hence "the balance of nature". Invasive exotic species, however, do often overrun islandenvironments – and the Green Iguana (which is from South America) is a good example of this. So, if your fears about the crocodile are based on the population dynamics of the Green Iguana, I think you can probably rest assured. Crocodiles will not overrun Cayman for similar reasons that Blue Iguanas will not overrun Cayman. I agree, if Green Iguanas ate people, that would be something to be worried about, but they genernally don’t… and that is something which they do have in common with the American crocodile. (Green Iguanas do carry salmonella though… so best not sing their praises too loudly!)

  19. Nathan says:

    RELEASE HIM???!!!

    I don’t understand how the DOE can say this croc is native to these Islands. As afar as I know, they extincted.  It is we who are introducing them back into society without weighing the consequences of these things attacking children and causing car accidents.

    The best Immigration status you can give to them, is a PI (Prohibited Immigrant) – cause I’m sure the parents are not from here

    Peace 

    • Anonymous says:

      Pirates according to history were frequent visitors to our shores why are we banning the theme pirates week and keeping crocodiles because the were here years ago?  Mosquitos were here in abundance in the fifties why are we trying to eradicate them are they not part of the environment?

      DOE kept this prior release a secret and thought that he would stay in one place obviously he is looking for human company which is of concern to me.I say lets hunt him down and have the youths use him for target practice instead of shooting and killing off each other.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Sweet…now we have our own crocodile hunter.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Please don’t give DOE credit for capturing this croc… They wait on the sidelines until the HHM guys bring him to shore – then they try to take the credit.  Well done Harbour House Marina!

  22. rasta says:

    you want him to leave? why dont you make him get a work permit and then threaten him constantly with being a second class citizen until you throw him outta cayman in 7 years. then, if you really want to dig into him, tax him and use his taxes to build schools his kids will never be allowed to attend. 

    or just let him hit a few bars on 7mile, where he will likely get shot at or robbed. 

    just let him be, if he has any brains, he will leave these shores on his own. 

    • M. Lite says:

      Mr. Rasta, 

      You seem to be having a really bad time here in Cayman.  I guarantee that if I lived in a foreign country and was treated like that I would leave.  

      Maybe you should consider leaving before you get taxed or shot.

      Don’t forget to pickup a lovely Rum Cake on your way out!

      • The High Life says:

        If you mean one of those lovely “Caymanian” rumcakes made by the Jamaicans, I will happily do so.

        • anonymous1 says:

          Then get a cassava cake made by a Caymanian.

        • M. Lite says:

          Actully, Carlene Hamaty (nee – Jackson) a caymanian, used a family recipe that had been handed down through generations to make rum cakes.  Yes, Jamaican Rum was used, but that is all.

          • The High Life says:

            Quite sure they are all cooked by the sweat and tears of low wage Caymanians too, right Mr. Lite?

  23. Twyla Vargas says:

    CROCODILE TUTI AND LUCY THE STINGRAY.

    Written by Twyla Vargas

    One upon a time there was a Crocodile name Tuti.  He was from the Caribbean Island of Cuba.  One day while swiming in the waters off Cuba he saw a boat heading out to sea, and decide to follow.  After about one hour, he realized that this boat with people were stowaying away.  Tuti thought about returning, but kept on going for the adventure.  After about three days following the boat he saw land ahead.  Then appeared another boat marked Cayman Islands Police.  Tuti was surprised and kept out of sight.  Wel to his surprise the Cuban boat ws towed away by the police boat to a place called Cayman Brac.  "Cayman Brac"? Tuti thought, Where is this place anyway?.

    Well he decided to turn around and swim back out, just in time to see another boat going in a westerly direction.  Immediately he heard a rough voice beside him say "Hey Crocodile" wha ya a do out ya?"  That was Coxen Grouper.   We dont have Crocs. in Cayman bellowed Coxen Grouper, and if I was you I would clear out of these waters real fast.   Croc.  Tuti replied. well you see I followed a boat out of Cuba, and now I am lost.  I am going to follow that boat up ahead, you want to come?  Oh no replied Coxen, I like it here in Cayman Brac.

    Well Tuti left and continued his journey.  Shortly after he saw land again and was very hungry, crawled ashore ate a few Pit Bulls, some chickens and laid down to rest.  After a few hours he swam into the water again and headed out to sea.  But not before he was spotted by Lucy the Stingray.  "Hello there", called out Lucy the stingray, what is your name, and where are you from?  Tuti replied  "Soy Cubano"  and my name is Tuti.  After blinking those Cayman eyelashes at Tuti, he was following Lucy all around Cayman, joined by Morray the Eel, and coco the ocean turbit.  Did they have a time, watching the twinkle of lights on shore, chasing cruise ships going out to seven mile banks and just listening to sweet music off the Warf Resturant.

    Anyway one day Lucy said "Tutt, let us go to Stingray city and meet my family.  Tuti, thought, "I have heard many wonderful things about stingray City, but will I be welcomed there."  Anyway Lucy batted those Cayman eylashes once more at Tuti, and he was off to stingray city.  The crouds of tourist and stingrays was unbelieveable, so Tuti tought,  "I dont think I will be welcomed here, so e slid away slowy to the north, but too late, he was spotted.  Crocodile!!! Crocodile!! Crocodile!!.  Police Immigration, department of inviromental health and a multitude of people.  Tuti thought "I am dead now"  I know, I should not have watched those long eyelashed and red lips of Lucy the Stingray.

    Tuti was caught, and taken to the turtle farm where he was worried about what would happen next.  But as the story ends Tuti overheard a conversation that he would be taken to the USA,  "The USA?, OhooooLaLa.  Thanks for reading my story, just thought to write something with a different twist, instead of the same old, same old.   walk good.

    • Joe Average says:

      Oh man! Twyla did we need that! 

      thanks for the story.

      It’s serious times but maybe that’s when we should take ourselves less seriously.

  24. Anonymous says:

    Well done DOE. I am proud that you have saved it from the mob. Please canm we just accept that they are a natural part of our wildlife and heritage, and do all we can to prserve and protect them. They are not nearly as dengerous as some are contending – it is the Australian variety that are scary, just like their stingrays! 

    • Caymanians for logic says:

      Gongrats!!  A Home found.

       

      It seems as if we have a loving owner of the crocodile here. DOE find this poster and drop of the croc in their backyard. Leave the feeding instructions as you run away.  

       

      This person is obviously from Florida where they would be accustomed to loosing pets and one or two children each year to their "friendly" and "scared of humans" co-habitats.

       

      • Anonymouse says:

        Any chance you could post up a link to news stories about the one or two children each year lost to Florida crocodiles? The presence, or absence, of these stories would be one way to judge whether these crocodiles are man-eaters or not.

  25. Anonymous says:

    It seems that this one lone crocodile has no mate, and it seems it’s the only crocodile in Cayman.  Send it to the US or Cuba where it can have mates and where they are used to having crocodiles.  I don’t care how many donkies years ago Cayman had crocodiles, we the living generations are not used to them and don’t know how to live and interract with them.  If he’s alone, put the poor thing out of his misery and send it to another country where he or she can get a mate!  It is more inhumane to make it live alone which is mentally suffering for the croc.  It is more humane to send it to where there is mates and where there is people used to have them living in their countries.  I don’t want to hear no more blabbler on oh well they lived here donkies years ago.   We’re too small an island to live with crocs.  We already have too much people as it is!!

    Send the poor lonely suffering croc to a better home where he’ll be with his own type!  He is suffering for God’s sakes help the poor creature!!

    • Bobby Anonymous says:

      Keep the croc and get rid of some of the people then!!

    • Anonymous says:

      The croc, as you point out, probably did come from Cuba or Jamaica, or maybe the US. Perhaps you should ask yourself why, if this animal is so lonely (as you say) it would leave 100s of its fellows and risk life and limb to swim out across the sea? The answer is that crocs are territorial, and if no suitable territories are available where they are born, young crocs adopt a travelling phase, when they move out in search of a suitable territory for themelves. So, it is more likely that this individual was pushed out, than is seeking company.

  26. Anonymous says:

    Do we want these animals to multiply? Will we then be safe to take our children for a walk and allow them to run and play? I say kill each and everyone that is seen before a tragic occurance happens. We do not need any more danger in our island, or will we wait until it happens and then say ‘ oh, if we had known we would have done something’ , like no one knows crocodiles are dangerous, oh yeah.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Take, take, take, take.  Takers.  Sometimes I am ashamed to be a member of the human species.

  28. Sir Henry Morgan says:

    Here’s a history lesson for you fools…

    A 1523 map shows all three Islands were given the name Lagartos, meaning alligators or large lizards, but by 1530 the name Caymanas was being used. It is derived from the Carib Indian word for the marine crocodile, which is now known to have lived in the Islands. This name, or a variant, has been retained ever since.

    So… who says these crocs haven’t been here all along? They have probably just been hiding away from eeediat comment makers like yourselves! 

  29. Mozzie Fodder says:

    I would be more worried about the local population armed with guns and machetes.

    To my knowledge this poor croc hasn’t shot anyone in a nightclub yet and I’m pretty sure that will scare off tourists before this unfortunate reptile does…..

  30. Gary says:

     These islands used to be populated with Caimans, before humans killed them all, so why the outcry?  Maybe us humans should leave as the Caimans were here before 1503?  Why can’t you live in harmony with the environment?

    You’ve most probably got more of a chance of being attacked by a shark than being attacked by a crocodile.  

  31. Sav/New says:

    Well that’s nice to know that we now have crocodiles around our island. I’m sure the DoE knows that this species of crocodile will onlygrow up to 15 to 16 feet!    

  32. Anonymous says:

    Killing these animals or shipping them off to somewhere else is not the answer to this situation.

    People need to remember that all animals play a part in our living ecosystem which we call home. If you try to eliminate one specie entirely from its environment you are taking away a link in the circle of life.

    Yes these animals are dangerous and scary… but so are sharks. Are we to hunt all the sharks and kill them or relocate them somewhere else? These animals all play an important and vital role in the health of our planet. Just because you dont feel the ramification of an action immediately doesn’t mean that it wont occur. It does get felt… not by you but your children and grandchildren down the line.

    Remember, we are inhabiting their lands and waters. We should respect the animals and the enviroment because they are what help keep us living.

  33. Kermit says:

    Maybe we can get a few bags and shoes out of him!

  34. pamala says:

    I’ve heard of people dying from crocodiles or allegators… what are they thinking?  If these things go on the road, think of the major vehicle accidents, they could cause; moreover, scare our tourists away from our beaches. They need to seriously think about what they are doing before letting this creature back into the wild.

    Pam

    • N. Syder says:

      I’m pretty sure that Croc’s can’t get a drivers licence……

      Plus, who’s to say that they haven’t been here all along, living in the mangroves out by Boob Cay.

    • Anonymous says:

      You people must be joking.

      These things were here long before humans and have more rights to the "Cayman" Islands than you!

    • Anonymous says:

      Pam – if you go on Google you will find out that crocodiles and alligators are very different animals. There are also different sorts of crocodiles. Some aggressive, like, the Australian Saltwater, others non-aggressive, like the American croc. There are thousands of sharks in the sea, but the tourists seem to swim there all the same. In fact, as a general rule, tourists like to see wildlife in the countries which they visit…

  35. Hall says:

     

    I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS!!!

    RELEASE???!!! 

    He should be sent back were he came from…

    These creatures can become very dangerous, especially, to small children. The government needs to do something about the DOE’s philosophy. Filling these Islands with crocs, could cause serious repercussions!

    • Anonymous says:

      These crocodiles are native to Cayman, and this one made its own way here… so it WAS relased were it came from. So, I think you mean "DoE should release the corocdile somewhere where it didn’t come from…" sounds like it is your philiosophy which is flawed.

      • pamala says:

        I’m sure the eggs that hatched didn’t initially come from Cayman

        • Anonymous says:

          .. rather like the eggs of our migratory birds… perhaps you think we should shoot all of those too? (One might peck you, or fly into the engine of your next flight – probably both more likely than being eaten by a crocodile).

        • Bobby Anonymous says:

          No, they came from mummy croc!

  36. Anonymous says:

    This is the kind of nonsense that leads to an untenable situation. Think of the green iguanas now.

    DOE and Mrs. Gina Petrie (and maybe the Turtle Farm as well) shall be held directly responsible for the introduction of crocodiles to the Cayman Islands though pure nonsense……just imagine what would happen if we had let them introduce the “Conservation Law”.

    Catch the crocodile once more and ship it off to some zoo or Kill it….simple. Next time there will be two!!! then four ….

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree. I went on safari in South Africa as a child, and I was horrified to see dangerous animals running around everywhere. There were lions, rhinos, and all manner of horrific creatures, or so called "wildlife", sitting about making the place look a mess. I for one was disgusted, and will never go there again. Those South African’s – don’t they a realise how many more people would visit their lovely country if they just got rid of these odious animals and made the place more like Miami? (Their local plants are ugly too, and the nature reserve lack even the most basiclandscaping). Cayman needs more shopping malls, and less wildlife if we are to compete in today’s increasingly eco-savvy tourism market.

      • Anonymous says:

        ha ha… this croc has  probably more right to this ‘christian’ island than any of the other so called born and bred caymanians….

      • Joe Average says:

        I think we should get rid of the environment entirely!! 

        It’s far too messy and hard to take care of.

  37. Anonymous says:

    Thats an unlucky Croc..bless him.

  38. Anonymous!!! says:

    What make these people think that this animal is not looking for its mate and will multiply, start by putting thing  in a pen some where.