Calls mount for Golding’s head over ‘Dudus’

| 13/05/2010
(BBC Caribbean): Pressure has been mounting on the Jamaican Prime Minister, Bruce Golding, to resign after his surprised admission on Tuesday that he authorised attempts by his Labour party to lobby the US government to drop its extradition request for a strongman in his constituency. The United States has been seeking to extradite Christopher "Dudus" Coke since August last year. Washington says he is wanted on drug trafficking and gun running charges.The Bruce Golding administration has been challenging the extradition on the grounds that the evidence against Mr Coke was unlawfully obtained.

 
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  1. Anonymous says:

    CNS

    I think this will interest you and every Jamaican who lives in Cayman, because we are looking for a shoot-out in Jamaica if Bruce signs. It looks like he is going to hand over Dudus

    http://go-jamaica.com/news/read_article.php?id=19364

     

    • Anonymous says:

      signs the extradition order. Yes bruce has signed the extradition order. can they find Dudus though? that is the big question.

  2. I loved the Games says:

    Who cares about Visa getting revoked…just let them do business elsewhere…If my US visa got revoked it wouldn’t bother me as I am not gaga over America and no one should be our world is to big for that…  Anyone who has amercian dreams has just that..sorry for a lot of people in this country who do but that is just a system perpetuated by a wonder of the world they posses.  This is wonder is better know as Hollywood a place where dreams are sold to fools by the millions.  Sure got a lot of fools to fool but you will not fool me.  The slaves can’t see the empire is naked and the tiger and the dragon are running the world..

    P.S. It is China that is calling the shots in Jamaica now not America and China will soon be calling the shots here too.  So all my country men and women please forget that american dreams and start thinking about global dreams or risk sucking the dry cow.

  3. We So Fool says:

    Yes and we sooo fool we went and adopted this Jamaican styled politics directly from the mainly JLP exiles who fled here in the 1970’s and 1980’s and our own Jamaican educated Caymanian idiots who instead of learning from the mistakes have tried to re-create a carbon copy here.

    Between lodge and JLP foolishness we’ll soon be wiped out.  Fortunately they haven’t quite figured out how to get us into ghettos and garrison’s yet, but if they could they would.

    And political parties with hard and fast lines are the first step!  Shame on PPM and UDP for taking us down this already travelled road.

    We are really a bunch of idiots to follow this useless model.  While they have the little man fighting for scraps, they are stealing the nation or plain giving it away!

  4. Anonymous says:

    Bruce must go…but then what?  Who in the PNP has any moral authority to speak for Jamaica.  It was them that were at the helm when the downward sipiral in which such a beautiful country find it self.  Remember Omar Davis’ confessions of using governemnt money to fund politicaly campaigns; the false budgets over the many years; the trifugeria (sp) affair…Jamaicans still dont know the truth; the Cuban Light Bulb scandal?  So what difference does it make whether Bruce go or stay… you will be swapping black dog fi monkey.  All this call for Bruce’s resignation is like the old proverb; "theif don lik fi seh thief wid long bag", nothing more none of then have any genuine interest in Jamaica.  Take a look at  teh Kingston community where the opposition leader has been MP for 20+ years and tell me where is the care.

  5. breakfree says:

    Hey, y’all still to this day, the US and her allies has not respected the sovereignty of nations.

    If one nation decides to start a nuclear energy plant for energy purposes or prevent US/UK investors from making their dollars in their own country, through their connections, they make trouble for the nation.

    They either sanction the country, allow the media to degrade the reputation of the country, or move into the country like it did to Iraq for oil. They are profiteers in high places and will do whatever they can to get what they want. For all you know, Dufus was probably involved in a U.S. government deal like Osama was involved with the Bushes before his name was broadcast as terrorist

    • Anonymous says:

      What on earth are you talking about ‘breakfree’? What a load of hogwash.
      All I know is that whenever any nation is in trouble or suffers any disasters the first place they call for help is America! When America helps they contribute twice what all the other countries contribute combined yet certain stupid people will complain that they did not help enough! It is unbelievable!
      I am not an American, I’m a Caymanian, but what I have to say about that type of hypocricy is that "you cannot have your cake & eat it too." You cannot on one hand say that America believes that they are the "police" of the world & on the other hand expect their help when disaster hits!
      I can say without fear or favor, if America stopped helping other nations, & if America stopped being the "police" for other nations, not only would those same hypocritical nations vigorously complain & cry, but without doubt the world would be a far less safe place.

      Please let the hypocricy end because there is good & bad in all nations, including Cayman (especially Cayman), & America is no different. In fact they help more nations & more people than any other nation, I say they help too much. If it was me I’d tell some of those hypocrites where to go.

  6. Anonymous says:

    And this is the party that mentors our UDP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hmmmm…….what was that comment about birds of a feather ??

  7. Anonymous says:

    I have heard that Dudas said of his possible extradition "If I go down, then all of you are going with me".

    Maybe Bruce is worried that he might be one of the "you".

  8. Anonymous says:

    I am Caymanian and would not normally comment on Jamaican political issues. However in this case, seeing as so many of our politicians seem to be using Mr. Golding as a role model for all things political, his departure in the present circumstances might be a good thing.

    We already have politicians refusing to get tough with our own criminals and politicians who think that they can ignore the law whenever they choose. Perhaps if our not too bright politicians saw that their are penalties for backing the crirninals over the people then they might change their ways. That might be too optimistic given the way our politicians behave but we can always hope. 

    • Anonymous says:

      There are also penalities for US politicians backing their own criminals.  As a self-declared Caymanian (glad you are) – what is your point!

    • Anonymous says:

      There is a reason why they dont get tough in Jamaica – If Golding does not side with this particular criminal it is a known fact in Jamaica that he and his family will get bullets up their a….ses.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Bruce does have a valid argument though – WHO ARE THE UNITED STATES TO TELL A SOVERIEGN NATION THAT THE MUST HAND OVER A MAN BECAUSE OF CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST HIM???

    You don’t hear no other nation presuring another one for 1 suspect?  Surely Dudus is of great value for them to go at such lengths for his incarceration!

    I find it strange. The United States – the Police Man of the World

    • Anonymous says:

      Nah Nah Nah! The Jamaican were the ones who signed legal documented contract., to extradite criminal for offence being committed, as long as they have enough evidence, (which they do have).  USA is not pushing anything down nobody throat.  What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gander.

      • Anonymous says:

        yeah right!

        I remember a treaty between the US and some Islamic country about two year ago, and some youngster decided to break the law there and get away with murder. The penality for the law was certain number of lashes. And I recall how the US made such a stink over the incident like no one should do such a thing to a US citizen. They pressured the government there so much that handed over the youngster. They feel they can go anywhere and do what they want because they’re american

        If Jamaica wants to look out for its own citizen, leave her alone – that is her business not the US! Contract or no contract – the US break contracts everyday! 

    • NorthSideSue says:

      Have you never heard of extradition treaties?  The US has one with Jamaica.

      • Amen, these people do not understand treaties, they just want the hand outs and what ever else they can get, forget about justice, they seem to think that protecting a crimminal is far better than allowing the scum bag to receive his due sentence.

        I am not an American, I am a born Caymanian, no status, BORN here from the stock of the island, I do not want our Island to go the way that Jamaica have gone due to corrupt politicians,oops, did I say corrupt.I do not want to have crooks pay a price to hide on these here shores, so Jamaicans band together and tell yourprime minister he either hand over DUDAS or step down. Mac, are you listening. I’m scratching my head over our dillema here.

         

    • Anonymous says:

      No, he does not have a valid argument. He is looking for loopholes and back doors.

      Extradition allows one sovereign nation to ask another sovereign nation to hand over a wanted criminal. Some countries do not have extradition treaties with other countries, or have limited them in some ways (e.g. European countries will not hand over an indicted criminal if he or she will face the death penalty in the US), but for the most part extradition benefits all parties. People can’t commit crimes and then run and hide somewhere else to get away with it. There is due process, of course, but if there is an indictment you better believe the person should be handed over to face the charges.

      And of course you hear nations pressuring others for suspects all the time, ever heard of Roman Polanski? Manuel Noriega? Thaksin Shinawatra? Gary McKinnon? Augusto Pinochet? Dragan Vasiljkovic? Abdullah Ocalan?

    • Anonymous says:

      Well then who are Jamaica to tell the United States to grant Visas to the Jamaican people.

      If the Jamaican Government dont want to hand over a wanted felon in the States to face the charges, then the United States have every right not to grant Visas to who they wish, and Jamaica is no exception to the Laws of the United States.

      As a Caymanian, if my Visa was revoked because the Cayman Government would not hand over a wanted Cayman felon, I would be very upset and would not try and claim that the US believe they are "police of the world" but would make sure that our criminal was extradited, but that is just me as a Caymanian who does not believe the world owes us everything.

      • Anonymous says:

        Dont let nobody fool you about visas getting take away because they fail to hand over Dudus.  The US Embassy in Jamaica has over-right stated that this is a misconception by Jamaicans.  As a matter of fact they even stated the statitics on the issuance of visas to Jamaica; and this year’s figure had surpass last year – before this thing came about.  Those hoodlums that had their visas revoked was because of the lyrical contents – the voilence they promote, their homophobic lyrics and their support for gun crimes, adn their blatant disrespect for other persons country and belief (I saw the youtube video). Trust me, anyone you heard of getting their visas revoke in Jamaica – they are mix up; dont matter the jacket and tie or the popularity.

        Jamaicans just love to turn everything political…just like what we are now doing in Cayman.

        • Anonymous says:

          " The US Embassy in Jamaica has over-right stated that this is a misconception by Jamaicans.  As a matter of fact they even stated the statitics on the issuance of visas to Jamaica; and this year’s figure had surpass last year – before this thing came about."

          I don’t know where you got this from but I saw in the news that the US government said that they would be screening them tighter and people that had a lot of money and couldn’t prove where their money was coming from would not be allowed into United States. 

          • Anonymous says:

            Maybe you need to read the full interview in the Jamaican Observer a few weeks ago…sorry I wouldnt find the article to include for your perusal.

      • Anonymous says:

        I completly agree with you, why should the US give away their visa to jamaicans? If you are not guilty of the crime then show yourself, get you a damn good lawyer. But because dudus is guilty he can’t show himself, if him fly high or low the US Government is going to find him. Dead or alive. All I have to say is that the good is suffering for the bad.

    • Anonymous says:

      That’s actually pure rubbish.  Have you ever read the international news?  Ever hear of the Hague? 

       

      Maybe Mr. Golding should have taken the position "You want him, please come get him".

  10. TennisAce says:

     Bruce should go and when he goes I hope he takes the other 119 crooks and criminals who are sitting in Gordon House pounding the desks with him.  The same politicians have been destroying Jamaica since independence and we are sick and tired of having them around.  All of those who are calling for the Prime Minister’s resignation are in a similar position to him.  The difference is that the Prime Minister’s dirty laundry is being aired in public while the others are just lying in wait.  Peter Phillips and Omar Davies attended the funeral services of known gunmen and so-called dons.  They did not resign when this happened.  The former Prime Minister PJ Patterson resigned after it was revealed how he brokered a deal which was illegal to award Shell Company waivers.  He resigned but was then re-elected.  Jamaica is a wonderful beautiful country.  The pearl of the  Caribbean but right now our leaders have failed this country and it is time for all of them to go.   We have had enough of special interest politics.  Time for those who really have Jamaica at heart to stand up and let their collective voices be heard. 

  11. Anonymous says:

    Because of The Prime Minister trying to protect one man, who is a renowned gang leader, to the detrement of all Jamaicans as it is now very hard for innocent Jamaicans and business people to get Visas to the US, even to the 7 year old Athlete whose Visa request was denied.

    Good standing Jamaicans and Business people, who have had Visas for years, are now having their Visas revoked, which is very unfair.

    But as we all know, Dudus was a financial backer of The Prime Minister during the last elections.

    "Birds of a feather, flock together" and its interesting to see who the friends of The Prime Minister are, but its obvious that he is "jammed" between a "rock and a hard place", so the only Honorable thing to do is resign now, to help his Jamaican people, as we know he will not hand over Dudus.

    • Anonymous says:

      I am sure that if another country wanted someone from the United States for crimes, the U.S. government would protect their citizen whether that citizen is corrupt or not

      • Anonymous says:

        Wake up Star and check how many criminals have been extradited from the US to their respective Countries to face criminal procedures, you obviously will be surprised!

  12. claude says:

    I think Bruce is scare to mess with Dudus. He is a very powerful man in Jamaica and has connections. He is also for the same party as Bruce.

    Do I smell rat?

  13. Anonymous says:

    Corruption is so rampant in Jamaica these day’s, nothing really surprises me anymore.

    Based on the way "how things a run" here in the Cayman Islands with our sagging economy, I do expect to see a remarkable increase in corruption here as well, on all levels.

     

  14. Anonymous says:

    Come on Bruce Golding, "Pay the political price". Tender your resignation and go. My country cant be better with persons like you at the helm!!!