Teen charged in BT robbery

| 15/06/2010

Cayman Islands News, Grand Cayman headline news(CNS): Following the armed robbery at a Bodden Town gas station on 11 June and the related police operations over the weekend, a sixteen-year-old boy has been charged with robbery and firearms offences. Police said they had arrested two men shortly after the robbery at Mostyns Gas Station, Bodden Town Road, on Friday night after giving chase to the getaway car and had been fired on by the suspects when they fled the vehicle. On Sunday two other men were arrested after an operation in Prospect. The teen has been charged with one count of robbery and two counts of possession of an unlicensed firearm and is expected to appear in court tomorrow morning. (Photo by Dennie Warren Jr)

Police have not yet said if any of the other men will be charged or if any further charges will be brought against the teen regarding the shots that were fired at the police during the chase. Police did confirm however that one of the men that was arrested has been released on police bail but another two remain in custody as police enquiries continue.
Anyone with any information about the crimes should contact Bodden Town police station or call Crime Stoppers on 800-8477 (TIPS).
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  1. Caymanian 2 D Bone says:

    To: Grumpy Old Caymanian & au revoir,

     

    In response to your last comment to my post,
    AU REVIOR accept the response as it was intended you AU REVIOR  you are a SMART ASS with such great intellect with a SPELL CHECK & GRAMMER perfectionist attitude  why not use proper connotations as well instead of slang like the rest of us?
     I call it as I see it, you want to be grammatically correct, and so can I, you try to use the proper wording just as you want others to do, and always remember that “what is good for the goose is good for the gander”!
    You seem to get your kicks from remarking/commenting on everyone’s mistakes, well now you’ve been corrected on yours, and as the ol’ sayin goes “now lick your wounds and hush!”, and as for your remark about "bait and switch"… what are you trying to imply by this comment?  I took you’re remarks in stride. And as an adult, I take criticism in a positive manner, with criticism you look at it in the most positive way and use it too your advantage. And as for the rest of my posting because I had composed myself and gathered my thoughts rather than writing when I was filled with emotions of the struggles that I also as a young Caymanian Woman have faced knowing very well where the young lady was coming from personally. 
    As she has also stated to you, you are too judgmental of people, not knowing their personal circumstances, you are quick to make remarks that they expect everything to “drop into their laps” sort to speak. In many situations this is not the case, a hand full maybe but not all, so please don’t class all of the young Caymanians as lazy, good for nothings, etc….  
    By the way do you have children of your own AU REVIOR? Just running your mouth off here?
    Grumpy Old Caymanian: Do you know when Cayman received electricity? 1966, not that long ago! 44 years ago to be exact, So don’t go stating that you were raised up without this and that and how hard you had it because a lot of children born up until the late 1980’s were bathed in the same metal bath tubs/wash tubs, & by the light of kerosene lamps, no TV’s in their house and shared one bed and the floor with brothers & sisters and sometimes cousins too!!! The same as you, as houses were not mandated to be wired with electricity until after the Planning Regulations Law was enacted on May 27th 1977!!!.    
    I was born in 1974 so I can attest to this, so your days of hardships were no less than ours, we faced many hardships with the lack of modern conveniences ourselves. Life here in Cayman became easier in the early to mid 90’s if your memory can recall correctly.
    Do you two find pleasure in knocking people down and discouraging the younger generations who need as much encouragement as possible? We are all human and have made mistakes ourselves, some we have learned from and as adults we will continue to make mistakes and do the same and learn from them again & again as we grow, we all are not perfect by far so why do you two think that it is OK to do this to your fellow man, try being Positive in LIFE, seek to help rather than ridicule and see if this is not a lot more productive than how you two are now!!! And Grumpy Old Caymanian maybe you won’t be so damn GRUMPY.   Because life was hard for you grumpy would you want the same for your children and grandchildren? No! Everyone single parent that I know wants better for their children so what is different for someone else’s child? You two same to be very hateful people.
  2. Caymanian 2 D Bone says:

     

    TO:Oh boy, where does one even

    Thank you for your response to my post,  Let me "start" by;  I apologizing for my improper grammar & incorrect spelling, as I was educated in the US as well as here in Cayman I should have demonstrated my intellect when producing an open forum correspondence especially with someone as SMART AS YOU!! 

    Let me enlighten you to some very real situations facing our young Caymanians both male & female.

    The Old Caymanian male you mentioned that "He is most likely the last of his breed, respectful, humble, hard-working.  Though he may not have a so-called "education", he has, what many lack today, a thing called "common sense" and another thing called "work ethic".

    "Breed" what pedigree and what type of an animal is he as your word of choice refers to an animal or species?

    His "generation" would have been a more appropriate word to use, especially when referring to your elders, as you also make reference to "respect!! 

    I agree with you that work ethics have drastically reduced to the "I m entitled to this or that because "I’m Caymanian" attitude, however lets face the facts, you have both educated and uneducated individuals in the country feeling the pains of the current economic situation that the world is facing as a whole.

    However the truth is that many High School students have graduated with less than the minimal entry level requirements to even apply for a job, hence the NEW EDUCATION POLICIES that are now being implemented into the curriculum in the education system, many Primary school students are passed through to the Middle school completely not ready for secondary education therefore they struggle to comprehend just the basics, and the cycle continues onto High School then into the real world for those who can not afford to go on to College. 

    You suggest that the Young Caymanian Female return to school to complete her GED,  I was asked by a friend of mine to enquire about the cost of a GED and which Colleges offer this as a option; unfortunately nether UCCI or ICCI offer the GED as a course, and Triple C no longer offers their GED course . 

    Mr. Errol Levy at the Education Dept in Countryside, Savannah offers a High School Equivalent Diploma (HSED), which is not the same as the General Education Diploma (GED)

    Therefore for those young Caymanians who miss their chance at a proper Secondary Education within the High School there is "NO SECOND CHANCE"

    The lack of parenting skills are a real factor with the children in our society  today, ether the parents or the single parent work two jobs no one at home to raise the children and/or the parents are themselves too immature and still have not grasped that their children are not their friends and they should not be joining them in some of the activities that they are participating in; no need to elaborate, we may all like to pretend that we don’t know what goes on within some families whose lifestyles are not welcomed nor appreciated by the majority of the public but,  we all know of someone or a family were drug use, or selling of drugs are the main source of income for the entire family, in some cases the lack of education has trapped many of these families into the rut that they are in, the cycle of drug abuse & violence continues until someone or something intervenes.  

     However there are children today committing crimes from all walks of life from across the island from the wealthy families to those who rely on Govt assistance , no one is immune from the results of crime at any level.

    History and statistics has proven that individuals who are unemployed and uneducated are more likely to enter the penal system due to the mere fact that poverty and desperation cause them to commit offenses of a wide range from petty theft to murder. 

    As for my comment to the Old Caymanian Male, yes alot has change since your time as a young Caymanian but please remember your GENERATION was not without it share of problems, many of you went to sea and alot of indescreations took place while you were away and they are also the result of alot of the anomosity in the country today, the young learn from the old, so we adapted to what we were raised up seeing,hearing, & living some parables slipped pass us but not all..

    To the Young Caymanian Female – You are not damned to be left behind, you are however destined to struggle a little harder because of your current educational level however as I mentioned make contact with Mr. Errol Levy  Education Dept and go from there, and  as to the commenter that posted that you would be a disservice to our country to apply for the position of Premier  it’s is people like you that need a boot kick up your royal kisser.

    This young lady may just be a diamond in the rough, who knows where she could go in life, she has just entered into the real world and already ahe is being condemned.. 

    I wish the very best for you who ever you are Young Caymanian Female…

     

    • Anonymous says:

      Caymanian 2b bone you couldn’t have said it any better than that. Whoever you are! You sound like a very concerning and caring person. God Bless You. And way 2go for putting them in their places! :]

    • Grumpy Old Caymanian says:

      2 D Bone, I apologise for calling you a bonehead as that was uncalled for. You have some good ideas, and many that I disagree with, but we can disagree respectfully.

      I can assure you that the young Caymanian female did not grow up in any more of an impoverished state than I did, but I was taught that the world didn’t owe me any favours. From an early age I was encouraged to get as much education as I could because that was something that nobody could take away from me.

      There was no TV in my childhood, or even electricity for that matter, but I learned how to live off the land, or sea to be more precise. However, you would be surprised to know of the number of Caymanians doing their homework by the light of a kerosene lamp in the 60’s who went on to graduate from universities in the 70’s. And I’m not talking about no-name universities with degrees in an area of study that nobody ever heard of.

      I come from an era when being a Caymanian meant that you were widely accepted as being amongst the very best available anywhere to do the job (seaman – any rank) or that you had a work ethic (any job on land) whereby your employer had no doubt that within a reasonable amount of time you would be doing the job as well as, or better than, the person assigned to train you.

      Being Caymanian is a badge that I wear with pride, but I have to tell you that it makes me cringe when I hear someone say "I is Caymanian" as the best thing they have to bring to the table.

    • au revoir says:

      Right…

      1.       It appears that you’re a fan of the famous "bait and switch"…  The argument that you now present is very different from your previous – the one where you called the Old Caymanian Man ignorant; or in your very own words, “Old Caymanian Man, U are an example of ignorance”…
      2.       My use of the word “breed” in “He is most likely the last of his breed, respectful, humble, hard-working…” contains no negative connotations, and certainly was not meant to be derogatory; it’s an expression… Your silly attempt to paint it something other than what it means to convey, smacks of desperation.
      3.       I agree in principle with some of your other arguments.  I won’t go into details about every point that you wrote, other than to say that parents, not government are ultimately responsible for their child’s success or failure. There are a few exceptions to this rule of course… You seem to recognize this point in your response, which contradicts your earlier point when you wrote “To Young Female Caymanian, your post is a prime example of the way the Govt has failed you our Caymanian Future”…
      4.       You may be correct when you say that there is “no second chance” for those young Caymanians who miss a chance at a proper Secondary Education. In most cases, I would argue that they did not “miss” a chance, but instead “blew” their chance at a Secondary Education. Nonetheless, many people have succeeded through sheer hard work and determination, with or without Secondary Education. There are many who started out as dishwashers in a hotel chain, later to become the general manager.  Part of the problem is that far too many find an entry-level position somehow “beneath” them, despite not having any qualifications…and the other part of the problem is that many expect things to happen immediately (eg., be promoted from dishwasher to general manager within a week’s time)
      5.       Lastly, you whine that the young lady has somehow been “failed” by government, yet you encourage her to apply for the position of Premier – right, my fault, perhaps she qualifies after all.
  3. Caymanian 2 D Bone & Proud of It says:

    To Young Female Caymanian, your post is a prime example of the way the Govt has failed you our Caymanian Future, the anger and fustration spills over in your writing, Old Caymanian Man, U are an example of ignorance, this is your furture yet you fail to see how your poor decisions during elections has resulted in her poor education,lack of future employment all the things that she stated is quite true, CAYMANIANS SOULD BE FIRST IN EVERYTHING IN OUR COUNTRY (MCKEEVA U WANTED TO BE THE FIRST PREMIER U DIDNT DESERVE THIS)  WHY IS THIS SO WRONG TO PUT CAYMANIANS FIRST WHY WAS THE IMMIRGRATION LAW IMPOSED IN REGARDS TO WORK PERMITS?  I know that it is not  my place to assume anyones economical status but most of the YOUNG CAYMANIANS coming out of GOVT schools are from middle to lower economical standings therefore parent(s) working to survive cant raisetheir children the right way therefore children raising themselves, education, teachers stretched to the limit.  MY ADVISE TO YOUNG FEMALE CAYMANIAN KEEP SPEAKING UP TILL UR 1ST PREMIER HEARS UR VOICE MAYBE ONE DAY YOU TO WILL BE OUR FIRST FEMALE PREMIER…MCKEEVA MADE U CAN TOO………

    • Grumpy Old Caymanian says:

      You sound more bone than Caymanian, and the largest bone is probably in your head.

      My "advise" to you is to first seek out a young Caymanian female the next time you are seriously sick, and give her the opportunity to gain some experience before seeking advice from someone who studied medicine.

    • au revoir says:

      Oh boy, where does one even start with your post? 

      1.  Neither government nor the old Caymanian male’s past decisions have failed the young Caymanian female – her parents have failed her, and then she has failed herself.  I doubt very much that you’re bright enough to understand this point…

      2.  The old Caymanian Maleis the exact opposite of what you claim, mainly "ignorance".  He is most likely the last of his breed, respectful, humble, hard-working.  Though he may not have a so-called "education", he has, what many lack today, a thing called "common sense" and another thing called "work ethic".

      3.  Your spelling and grammar need work…  "…all the things that she stated is quite true"…  Wow!  I mean, English is not my first, nor my second, nor my third language…  All the things that she stated is quite true! ha ha ha ha ha

      4.  Encouraging the young Caymanian female to run for the position of Premier is a disservice to your country.  You may want to encourage her to return to school, and relearn a few basic skills.  XXXX

      • Anonymous says:

        First of All au revoir…

         

        1. My parents did not failed me and i sure as hell have not failed myself. You sound like one of them who be putting down caymanians.

        2. I agree with you on your #2.

        3. I may have a missed spelled word on due to the fact of how frustated i am by typing rather rapidly.

        4. You AU REVOIR do not KNOW anything about each and everyone of us private condition. has it ever dawns to you that maybe…just maybe some of us DO NOT have the funds you need to go back to school EVEN if you wanted to. So dont come with you’re judgemental self on here

        • Anonymous says:

          No my dear it has not dawned on him and many more like him @ that. It’s people like him that dont give the least fortunate a chance. It’s people like him that turn a blind eye to what it taking place with their young Caymanian’s. Then when the crime rate builds up they blame someone else, the RCIPS, the Premier, the churches, the parents, the children, the schools and the list goes on. But not themselves. They are the same ones that will interview a young person who is eager to learn and make an honest living but will turn them down because they dont have a certain criteria.

          So sad. My advice to you girl is hold your head up. Never give up. Keep talking – God hears you and even when you think no one is going to answer, he will answer and when he does that is all you need.

          • au revoir says:

            Your argument runs all over the place and it’s obviously meant to try to somehow make me look poorly and score points with the audience.  Your statement "They are the ones that will interview a young person who is eager to learn and make an honest living but will turn them down because they dont have a certain criteria" is nonsensical at best.  People who are eager to learn and make an honest living will always find a job.  Furthermore,I certainly don’t blame the RCIPS, the Premier, the schools, or the churches, etc., for the escalating crime – I have not idea where you got that from.  Obviously you did not read my post.  It mostly all boils down to the parents.  The notion that it’s somehow my fault is nonsense.  It’s certainly not my fault, that childrenare having children, that some parents are letting the streets and other children raise their kids, that some parents are using schools as babysitting institutions (instead of places of learning), that some parents would rather snort coke, drink themselves silly, etc. than spend time with their own kids…

  4. "Miss Chief Maker" says:

    As one writer has correctly put it, education is the key to becoming successful.  If you refuse to uplift your standard of education and living then, you have no one to blame but yourself.  Upon completion of secondary education, and graduated, our young people who (not all the time) are mature enough to enter the working world have this notion that employers HAVE the right to employ them because they are Caymanian. 

    Owners have to know that persons being employed with their establishment can be trusted and are willing to conduct themselves in a civil and mature manner.  The young men of today tend to wear their clothes below their waste demonstrating how "LOW" their ambition is.  One should remember "that a man is judged by the company he keeps.  Show me your company and I will definitely tell you who you are".

  5. Anonymous says:

    @ TennisAce….I must say you are incorrect with that, because as far as I am aware they released the name of Raziel Jeffers after this so call law came into affect. People need to open their eyes and see that they implement laws to protect who they want to protect and that’s exactly why this law came into affect in the first place, to protect someone’s name that they didn’t want to be publicized.

    Our young people are not the problem. They are the product of the problem. Our young people have had to deal with alot of social issues that the majority when they could help didn’t. Instead they turned a blind eye, kept silent about the social issues instead of addressing them because it was taboo, now as unfortunate as it is, we are finally hearing their voices by the crimes they commit. It’s sad but true!

    CNS: TennisAce is correct that the RCIPS no longer discloses the names of people that are charged with a crime. However, when the suspects appear in court, often a few days later, their names become public knowledge (as happened in the case mentioned above). The change in police policy (not a law), therefore, does not appear to make much sense. However, in this case, as TennisAce again rightly points out, the suspect is a minor and his name will not be revealed even after he has appeared in court.

  6. Anonymous says:

    In response to TENNISACE-

    what is happening with our YOUNG PEOPLE as i am a younge female caymanian, is that dispite what Gov. wants to say about the job placements situation. They need to find openings for some us, give caymanian a fair chance of employment provide the training if necessary.Maybe THEN the robberies will reduce or even end. It is very hard to get a job becuase NO ONE wants to hire a young caymanian with no experience! HOW are WE supposed to HAVE or GAIN that EXPERIENCE if we are not giving the OPPORTUNITY huh?!

    SO dont come with CI seem 2b leading a gangster lifestyle. When it comes down to it, it all boils down to UN FREAKING EMPLOYMENT! and Frankly in some disfunctional way I dont wrong them! Because No one wants to employ young caymanians, make u had a US, UK,CAN Passport  or a citizen of one, see how quick you get a call for an interview or even hire INSTEAD of PUTTING the people of the CAYMAN ISLANDS FIRST! They have us at the VERY BOTTOM while OTHERS rise in the business offices!

    That’s all im saying cuz i feel as if im writing a book based on how fed up i am with everything from GOV. str8 down to the small businesses! I wonder if they ever thought of giving these youngsters employment with the help of parents maybe then all these robberies will stop!

    We all are people and Becuase of the LACK of EMPLOYMENT ( yes i kno i stress on that alot and its cuz its teh truth) some will resort to stealing in order to survive!

    And ANYONE ELSE who DisAggrees with me can *&%^$@#$**%%

    • Anonymous says:

      Dear Young Female Caymanian,

      There are quite a few jobs still available in the Cayman Islands. However, many of them require a standard of education that you don’t have, and others offer very low pay which you don’t want.

      In recessionary times employers do not have to take whatever type of employee they can get, at whatever price is asked. It’s called the law of supply and demand, which you probably haven’t heard of, but that leads me to my advice for you; get a better education or lower your expectations.

      Sincerely,

      An Old Caymanian Male

       

    • Anonymous says:

      I rather think that yours is an example where poor spelling and grammar automatically results in your application finding its way to the trash can.

    • Anonymous says:

      Ms. young Caymanian…in order to find a job you need to get your resume together( have someone proof read it)  and start "pounding the pavement". Go out each morning to establishments and fill out job applications. Dress to impress. No high heels, not more than one set of earrings, no skirt shorter than your knees, no cleavage, no bright colored nail polish and make sure your hair is well styled. Bring a pen!! Do not be chewing gum!! Turn off your cell phone!! Be well-mannered and polite. When someone tells you that they are not hiring, do not tell them off and in fact, ask them politely if they know of a company that is hiring!! Keep at it and make this your daily routine. Do not be afraid to start at the bottom of a company and work your way up. Find something you enjoy to do and even if you must start at a lower salary than you desire…keep working at it. Attitude and work ethic go a long way.

      Once hired the two most important things…….be on time and be polite! Good luck!!

      P.S. Make sure you have an e-mail address that is professional and also that your phone message is not "silly". A company does Not want to be listening to 5 minutes of rap music when they are calling to hire you. 🙂

      • Anonymous says:

        Thank you for advice. ATLEAST you sound like a helpful person whoever you are and you’re not trying to make the young people of the cayman islands sound like their worthless UNLIKE the rest. Once again Thank you for the advice I do appreciate it. Needless to say that I am not out of a job, i do maintain a good position with the company im employed with. I just really get upset when some of these people be on here talking rather disgusting about us young people making it sound like if we do not want better for ourselves….some of us is not fortunate as others to go onto college due to the fact of not having that money you know? Again. Thx for the advice. Have a good Day

        -D

        • Anonymous says:

          I am not from GC, so I do not know how the systems down there work, but I will throw out some more suggestions. How about scholarships – thru your high school, thru your job, even on-line? I know that alot of colleges need to have a certain number of minorities attend their colleges and quite possibly a certain number of international students? Have you looked into that?

          Also, if you put aside a certain set amount out of your paycheck each week/month in a college fund you would be amazed at how quickly it would grow. One other suggestion – does your job offer academic courses anywhere?

          When there is a desire to go to college, there is a way. Go down to your local college or back to your high school and speak to an advisor. Re: the GED…can one get credits on-line if it is not offered in GC. How about Jamaica or another island nearby? Just a thought.

    • au revoir says:

      wot you talkin ’bout willis???

    • Twyla Vargas says:

      I am almost out of breath reading the comments of this Caymanian young person.  One can feel the anger, but HELLO!!, it seems that this person has a reason, and that is one of the main problems we have here, many Caymanan young people who have reasons are shouting out,……… they are hurting and angry but  no one is listening.  This is a fact, and I am not going to take sides with anyone who is my friend if they are wrong.

      Yes, some Caymanian children may not have had good bringing up, but that doesnt mean, that the community at large should cast them aside, instead, we should remember the way it was done back then.   Caymanians have a tendency to (as we would say in days gone by) paint the grandchild black because of something the Great grandfather did 80 years ago.    Its absolutely not fair.  Give the young people a chance to prove themselves, and that does not mean giving them a job with the expectations that they will fail.  Give them an opportunity with the expectations that they WILL WIN; and to do this, it means guiding them until you see they can fly. Blessed

  7. Around & Around We Go says:

    Well done RCIP… .. Job Well done!!!

  8. Anonymous says:

    Why is only one charged? I know that he is a minor, but this is a major offence. We should have some details like name, nationality etc.

    • TennisAce says:

       In case you are not aware, the RCIPs no longer discloses the names of persons who have been charged with offences.  In addition, as the alleged offender is a minor, neither his name and/or details will be revealed, even when he is brought before the Court.   Finally, as is the norm when the nationality is not revealed, it usually means it is local. 

      It is not a good thing that the young men and women of the Cayman Islands seem more fixated with leading a gangster lifestyle rather than trying to become educated and become worthwhile members of society.  While many here are talking about expats etc., they really need to look around and see what is happening with their young people. It is not good. 

      • Anonymous says:

        Quite the opposite, Tennis Ace. Most often when the person’s nationality is not named it means that it is not Caymanian.   

    • Anonymous says:

      To 15:59

      Leave the Police let them do their job and do it well. You too nooooossssey, whats to get up in their business. If you cant help them solve the crime the butt off and let them do it and stop trying to find out who did it.

      • Anonymous says:

        To 08:42

        Whatever, seems like you dont have anything to do besides reply to other people posts.

        To 15:59

        dont worry this CAYMAN we will find out anyways sooner or later