Cops arrest suspect robbers

| 16/01/2011

(CNS): Update Sunday 8:30am — Police have now arrested two men in connection with a robbery on Saturday at a George Town money transfer store. The robbery which took place at the Reggae Money Express, in Elizabethan Square, in George Town only yards from the Police Headquarters occurred at around 6.30 in the evening. One man believed entered the premises with what was believed to be a firearm, threatened staff and made off with a sum of cash.No shots were fired no-one was injured in the incident. Later that evening, following a police operation in the George Town area involving uniform, CID and armed officers, two men (aged 19 and 21 years) were arrested on suspicion of robbery, the RCIPS said. (Photo Dennie Warren Jr)

The two men are currently in police custody while enquiries are ongoing.

The robbery came in the wake of two other robberies on Friday night in Northward and West Bay where the robbers were armed with machetes and guns respectively. In the incident in Northward at the Plum Tree convenience store a man sustained serious injuries when he was assaulted by one of the suspects.

Officers are now seeking witnesses and anyone with information on what is the fifth robbery of 2011 can call George Town CID on 949 4222 or crimestoppers on 800 8477 (TIPS)

 

 

 

 

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  1. nauticalone says:

    Past time to train and arm all Police and law abiding citizens! And in the process, a new industry will be created also. 

    I wish it wasn’t so, but wishing is not protecting us!

  2. Anonymous says:

    20:09. This is a statement that is nothing more then hog-wash and typical of what our UK Police Men want us to fear.

    Check gun crime in the US and see how many guns are owned legally by citizens. Then check the grand UK and you will find that the UK has more gun crime per capita then the US.

    If the gentlemen in his home in Cayman did not own a legal firearm perhaps he or his family would have been the dead person or persons in that home. The Governement, meaning the Police and Governer were suppose to be in charge of a criminal that was in thier custody under house arrest. They were not and failed to protect the populance against that man.

    In a perfect world it would be nice that there were not so many criminals with firearms but that is not the case and leaving good people to just sit by without a body to protect them and not allowing them to protect themselves is just total BS.

    As Mr. Baines stated at the confrence, what about the right to life? Why should honest people have to just pray that they are not shot during one of these crimes. Why did that man have to just take the machete blows? Are we to be helpless against these thugs and stand at thier mercy. I have news for you this is what is going on today.

    • Anonymous says:

      "Check gun crime in the US and see how many guns are owned legally by citizens. Then check the grand UK and you will find that the UK has more gun crime per capita then the US".

      I did, and I don’t know what you’re talking about. Nationmaster places the U.S. as having the 8th highest rate in the world of homicides with firearms at 0.0279271 per 1,000 people, while it places the UK 32nd at  0.00102579 per 1,000 people. 

      What is the source of your information?

  3. Anonymous says:

    What would be a very interesting interview would be to pose some questions about the current levels of violent armed crime to the Governor and ask his opinion.

    Then ask about the levels of conviction and the Cayman Islands justice system. Such as conflict of interest with jurors, protection of witnesses, low conviction rates, sloppy case preparation ect…

    I recall that this Governor intended to have dealing with crime one if not the top priority of his time here.

    • Cow-Cod says:

      Imagine being at work doing your job Legally and innocently and then being robbed and beaten by these disgusting criminals.

      This man is at work and not out causing trouble and he ends up in hospital with head injuries, through the actions of a couple cowardly low-life scum criminals.

      I wonder if these criminals, who in mind mind, are pure garbage, have ever felt the might of a cow-cod, well they have been caught so I hope and pray they are now introduced to Mr & Mrs Cow-Cod in a proper way, legally!

  4. Anonymous says:

    The uninformed argument held by some that the poor crime detection rate by RCIPS is due to ‘family ties’ because of the small island population is totally skewed. Facts: 1. the RCIPS is 80% (approx.) made up of foreign officers; 2. when the RCIPS had more Caymanian officers, crime detection rate was higher (albeit there was less crime). Clearly the unfamiliarity of foreign officers with locals contributes to the poor detection rates, but more likely, the poor rapport the RCIPS has with the community is a major reason. Last I heard, Commissioner Baines was trying to address that problem. 

  5. Anonymous says:

    Ask yourself who profits from crime in Cayman.  

    No seriously ask yourself who profits from crime in Cayman.

    Do some research.

    Maybe then you will understand why things will not be getting better anytime soon because there is too much profit to be made.

    But still there is no guarantee of a reduction in crime, but some serious money gets dished out in the process.  Follow- the money trail.

  6. 21st Century Boy says:

    Maybe we should legalise guns like America, and then have 10 year olds shoot their mothers dead over a row about laundry and let nutjobs have automatic weapons to express political sentiments through mass slaughter.

    I note that the Cayman gun lobby have been a bit muted recently  . . .

    • Dennie Warren Jr. says:

      I respect your right to be a victim.

      • Alan Nivia says:

        You don’t respect his right at all.  In fact you want to strengthen it, by increasing dramatically his chances of being a victim of gun crime by increasing the availability of guns. 

        Do you support Increased use of firearms and lethal force domestic violence?  Then support broader gun ownership.  Do you want increased use of guns in crimes and increased rates of deaths in the course of being a victim of crime?  Then support broader gun ownership.

        Tucson – what happens if you get your way.  Murderous 10 year olds (http://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-boy-10-shoots-kills-mother/story?id=12529574) – what happens if you get your way.  Murderous 12 year old (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7810192.stm) – what happens if you get your way.

        Gun advocates are very selfish.  They only care about themselves as opposed to society as a whole.  Of course they all say that they would use guns sensibly and lawfully.  But the evidence from America is that that argument is untrue.

        And don’t bother citing Switzerland – our society is much closer to Kingston or inner city America with crack and gang violence than rural Zug.  It will only become even more like Jamaica if these gun advocates get their way.

        Cayman is blessed by very tight gun laws.  Once relaxed you can never undo the in-flood of weapons you would cause.

        • Rafaelle says:

          What a wonderful world it would be with out guns unfortunately the same guns that takepeople lives also ensures people freedoms which gets us back to the old point of guns don’t kill people people kill people. Why don’t we extract the aggressive and hateful genes from our bodies. Long before guns were used to kill, spears and swords and crossbow were being used.So Mr Nivia what is your point, a society without threats you need to get real.It would appear that you now feel threatened and same to think taking away other people’s right to feel safe is the way to go how selfish is that. The trouble with ignorance is that it picks up confidence as it goes along.

        • Anonymous says:

          Alan

          I quite respect your viewpoint on gun possession and ownership for the general population.

          Yes, its a fact that if general firearms ownership was extended to Cayman in a similar way to the US, more people, deservedly or undeservedly (accidental/unintentional) would run a higher risk of being shot or killed with a firearm.

          But the fact also remains that innocent people are being attacked, robbed and shot with firearms in the hands of criminals who are showing no hesitation to use them.

          So, tell,what is your answer to that particular problem that already exists ?

          The cases mentioned on this forum of underaged children accessing firearms and shooting their parents are glaring examples of irresponsible and careless gun ownership by the parents themselves and are tragic cases, to be sure.

          But, do you have any idea of the statistics on how many robberies and attacks have been prevented, and how many lives saved by the potential victims having in their possession, their own legally-owned firearm and using it effectively when necessary.

          No one who is against gun ownership mentions this very important issue; how many lives have been saved by poossession of a firearm.

          It is no consolation to a victim who has been robbed, pistol whipped or chopped up with a machete or sword to be told that his status as a victim is for the greater good of society’s safety.

          All he would be concerned about is; what could I have done to protect myself had I been allowed the tool with which to do so…

          While he recovers from his wounds in the hospital….

          If he is lucky that is.

          I guarantee you that legal firearm possession would act as a deterrant in some of these robbery cases.

          Rushing into someones business or home and having their firearm pointed in their face would bring most of these criminals to their senses really quickly.

          I completely agree that the homeowner who shot the criminal to death who had broken into his home in the dead of night was totally within his right to do so and the law of the land agreed; no charges were laid against him.

          At leastt he had the tool to protect himself and his family with and to make sure that  the right person ended up in the morgue.

        • Dennie Warren Jr. says:

          Whoever he is, he should calm down, because clearly he’s excessively emotional.

          While I disagree with his position, I do respect his right to be a victim, I would never saythat a person MUST owns firearms, but if a person chooses not to own firearms, then that person MUST accept the consequences of not doing so, because if attacked by criminals who are armed with firearms, you will be at a disadvantage.

          The right to life is totally meaningless without the right of self-defense, because any right which cannot be enforced is no right at all.

          Perhaps you have forgotten about those of this community who were pistol-whipped, beaten during home invasions and just this weekend, chopped in the head by criminals during the robbery of a small business.  Perhaps you don’t care about the victims, but I do. 

          Re: “Gun advocates are very selfish”

          Perhaps you’re right about my selfishness, because I would rather keep my own property for myself, instead of allowing criminals to unlawfully take it from me, so they can return again and again to take as much as they want.  Perhaps you’re right that I would rather keep my life instead of allowing/permitting criminals to murder me.

          Sarcasm aside, you don’t have the courage to care about our society half as much as I do.

          Dennie Warren Jr.
          345-926-0716
          BBM PIN: 20DAEF5B

          • Alan Nivia says:

            Maybe I do get emotional about selfish people who put their possessions ahead of the safety of the community as a whole.

            Here is a paragraph from The Times today:

            "Recent news headlines are littered with tragedies such as: Kentucky, October 4: “Woman charged after accidentally shooting son”; Washington, October 25: “Boy, 4, shot mother with shotgun”; Pennsylvania, June 8: “Pregnant woman accidentally shoots self”; Florida, May 31: “Boy, 12, shot by 15-year-old friend”; Arizona, October 24: “Girl, 8, mistakenly shoots sister, 4, dead during target practise”; Ohio, October 7:, “Mother shoots her two young children then kills self”; Illinois, November 10: “Mother shoots baby dead then self; Tennessee, August 3: “Toddler mistakes real gun for Wii controller, shoots and kills self”. And on, and on.  These stories make only a few paragraphs, not a worldwide, 24-hour news such as a massacre, but the toll is much greater."

            Dead children or your possessions.  On balance I am inclined to be against the dead children option.  Sorry if I get emotional about that. 

            • Anonymous says:

              "Maybe I do get emotional about selfish people who put their possessions ahead of the safety of the community as a whole."

              Ha ha ha,

              This guy is classic !

              Some peope will hold to their own point of view, no matter how unjustifiable it is and use any non-sensical reasoning to back up that posution.

              If you’re so concerned about about sacrificing possessions for safety of the community as a whole, why don’t you open your house to the ‘bad boy’ element in Cayman who are robbing innocent people of their possessions.

              That would indeed be a ‘selfless contributuion’ to the entire community’s safety.

              Anytime a robber needed money or material possessions he could just come and have yours freely  and leave other innocent victims alone.

              The problem with that is that some of them would take your money and possessions and still beat your skull in because:

              1. Some people get ‘high’ on exerting violence, especially against innocent and helpless victims.

              2. Appeasement to bullyingand intimidatory violence has never ben proven to work.

              3. There are simply some crazy people walking around in Cayman toting firearms and have no need to fear Cayman’s police or citizens, who, by and large have no firearms themselves with which to challenge them or protect themselves with.

              4. They would kick your head in simply for being a stupid *******.

               

              You need a reality check, mate.

              Simple as.

               

              • Anonymous says:

                Video: Vicious Gang Attack Was Caught On Camera

                 

                Please Google this video, which is posted on Yahoo UK today if anyone wants to see gang violence in all its viciousness and violence.

                Note that the victim was totally unaware of being approached from behind by the bicycle rider who used the momentum and speed of his body’s weight on the bicycle to hurl the victim to the ground….

                And then the fun real fun begins with his mates running in like a pack of wild dogs for the kill.

                A passerby runs across the road to intervene as much as she could and this is probably what stopped this gang from kicking this victim to death, as has been known to happen all too regularly.

                Equate this to what happens in a robbery or home invasion when the helpless victims are held at gunpoint while bloodthirsty members have their fun…

                Tell me then, that you are a responsible home or business owner with employees and a family to protect…

                And then tell  me which is your priority….

                So-called ‘societal protection’ or the protection of your own life and your family’s  lives should you ever encounter a similar attack in your home or business place.

                The robbery reported in the Northward area of Grand Cayman where a machete was used was something similar to this video, for any ‘bleeding hearts’ out there to ponder over.

                 

                 

                 

                 

            • Dennie Warren Jr. says:

              Re: “On balance I am inclined to be against the dead children option. “

              Last Saturday that was a four-car accident also.  God forbid, but should criminals enter your home and murder your family, you will understand reality.

        • Anonymous says:

          Why are gun advocates selfish?  No matter what the gun law is the criminal will be able to get their hands on a firearm.  Afterall I believe all the firearms that were used in various criminal activities here in the Cayman Islands were illegal.  One should have the right to protect oneself.  Not everyone should have a firearm I agree but is it right that you have these thugs terrorizing people, killing people.  Who is to say what the outcome would have been when the indiviudal shot and killed the intruder here.  The intruder had a knife, he came into his house uninvited. 

          If anything customs and police should be more vigilent on where and how these firearms are coming in.  Ask yourself that?

  7. Libertarian says:

    AMEN!

    THIS IS NEWS I LIKE TO HEAR!

  8. Lachlan MacTavish says:

    Instead of traveling, making deals and pointing the finger at The Commissioner and The Governor , why aren’t the MLA’s from West Bay meeting their district voters and residents and fighting crime. West Bay is a nest of violence. That goes for the other MLAs as well. Get out, do something. 

  9. Anonymous says:

    Arrest, hold for a few days, discharge, case closed.

  10. Anonymous says:

    maybe time for mckeeva to get down on his knees again and pray for a solution…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    it would be funny if it wasn’t true

    • Atheist says:

      After crime spiralled following Mac’s National Day of Prayer, does this mean:

      1) There is no god; or

      2) God has a plan and that plan involves spiralling crime in Cayman.

      I would love some guidance from those who know the "truth".

      • Anonymous says:

        It means there is a God and he is giving Grand Cayman exactly what it deserves.  The crime is coming from people who have no respect for themselves and for others.  There seems to be a lot of them in Cayman.  Why is that?  Hint:  They didn’t just show up this year.

        • Atheist says:

          So you are proposing the "vengeful God" theory mixed with a little dose of implied xenophobia.  Jesus would be proud of you!

          • Mat says:

            My AtheistFriend,

            Like ignoring the laws of gravity, if you fail to comply with the moral laws of God, you will reap the consequences for your decisions and actions.

            God does not punish people per se… rather, people punish themselves because they fail to live in harmony with the Creator and Sustainer of all things. People willfully remove themselves from the safety and protection God has provided for them.

            The same goes with our Government. There are universal principles of governance, which we better stop ignoring or it will be too late.

            Peace

      • Michel Lemay says:

        No the darkness of crime as entered our Islands because we forgot who is in charge and God do not like ugly. We have sacrificed our code ethics like for our families and children, for the Love money and let it control us, corroption at many levels etc.. Forgotten or tossed aside our youth for what we call progress, not preparing them for high morals towards each others and others, instead of educating them and showing good example, we have showed greed and hatrage towards one another instead of being kind to one another and unfortunatly we are now paying the price. It is never too late BUT we as a people need to change.We first have to turn to God and take a good look in the mirror even if we can’t see ourselves as others do and admit that we are at fault as a people. We need to pray more then ever for our country and those in charge. I have decided to start by myself in trying to look at things differently. Instead of critisising I will pray, instead of blaming someone else I will become a better person and do to my neighbor as I would like done to myself. If I have nothing good to say I will ask my God for the wisdom to say something positive or nothing at all. Lastly I will Pray for the Leaders of this country so that they may do the same and they realize the great responsibility that rest on their shoulders and I will not continue to fuel the fire by my commentsbut instead start by becoming a good example to others by showing Love, kindness, spirituality. God Bless, Michel Lemay 

  11. TCM29 says:

    They never see anything in the US either.

  12. Anonymous says:

    What the hell is going on in Cayman? It seems like there’s an arm robbery every 2 days. I am deeply concerned as to what the government and police is doing in making our islands safe. Promises of more street patrols, CCTV, tougher laws against robberies and protecting businesses seems to have gone out the door. From what I gather it looks to be that the UDP is more focused on getting investors well guess what I highly doubt any investor with common sense will invest in a crime ridden place. Let’s get our heads out of the hole like Ostriches and start fighting to take back Cayman.

    The main area of what needs to be done is insuring our borders are better protected, more enforcement on our streets and tougher laws. Gangs and a breakdown in the moral and social fabric of our society in the past 15 years has come back to haunt us. Make no mistake "crime is a bad wound that doesn’t heal with a band aid solution" so look for positive solutions.

    I moved from Cayman to Europe 1 year ago and I believe as a born Caymanian this will be common trait for many Caymanians in the coming years. The cost of living, a new breed of crimminals and poor leadership has put a heavy toll on many residents and many good expats are packing up and leaving as well. As a property owner my condo will be more difficult to rent. I’m positive that we’ll turn things around yet it has to start now with our leaders showing more action and less talk to assist our residents.

    Blessings to all.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Go RCIPS go,great job keep up your usually efficient work standards.

  14. Anonymous says:

    02:25 :  When Haines and his DTF were in power, we had violence on a regular basis too. That is not the answer and you will have to go further back in history to tout how great it was – it is proven that if you look at stats during the Haines regime, that is the point in which a lot of these crimes started to be committed, unpunished, along with drug dealing openly, to bring us to our norm of today. We had prisons burned down, riots, shootings, armed incidents in broad day light then too. Age does sometimes mess with the memory.

    • Anonymous says:

      Who took down the notorious Sheldon Brown and his gang that was involved in 95% of the mayhem pre/post Hurricane Ivan and secured the convictions in court, that still stands today ??

      Even Sheldon Brown himself wrote a book from HMP Northward stating that Derek Haines and his DTF officers could not be corrupted and never seem to relent, despite all out efforts in the criminal underworld to break their drive/spirit to do justice for the people of the Cayman Islands. 

      You won’t recall that and I forgive you for not knowing. You probably were still running around wearing a pamper and had a big blue passifier in your mouth back then.

      You should read the book and then you might learn a thing or two about Cayman Islands Crime and it’s Caribbean Criminal Cartel’s. 

       

    • Ex RCIP Cop says:
      You are quite correct.
       
      I served in the RCIP pre Hurricane Ivan, and post Hurricane Ivan. Admittedly there was allot less serious crime pre Hurricane Ivan than post Ivan, but there was serious crime taking place. An example was an armed robbery of a hotel on SMB, which was quite well planned, with the offenders arriving at the scene and departing on a boat. I recall looking at the papers over the next few days, and there was never any mention of what was a serious incident.
       
      The difference? Back then we only had the Cayman Compass reporting, which it was suggested at the time suffered from government censorship, and this kind of crime in a hotel does not look good for tourism, so presumably it was not reported for this reason. Post Ivan we have three media reporting outlets including this one, so crime gets reported.
       
      The reason for what is now called a crime wave? As mentioned by other posters social issues, too many to go into, but also the criminals know that if they commit a serious crime, there is a pretty good chance they will not be identified and charged, so the benefits of prospective ‘takings’ outweigh the risk of a custodial sentance. Unfortunately the volume of crime has overwhelmed the RCIP, and the rise in serious crime has happened very quickly in the space of six years or so, and I would suggest it would be very difficult for any law enforcement agency, and not forgetting the judiciary and prosecutions department, to develop in terms of skills, experience, equipment, resources and numbers, at the same rate as the crime rate, and as such keep on top of the situation.
       
      Its a bit of a vicious cycle, the more crooks identify that they can commit crime and have a pretty good chance of not being identified and / or charged, the more crime they will commit, the more other crooks will engage in criminal activities, the more the police and judicial system will become overwhelmed, and so the more chance crooks will not be charged when committing crime, and so on, and so on.
       
      Mr. Haines was a fantastic leader, but as much as people hark back for the days of the DTF, they would not solve the problem. If you implemented the old DTF unit it would certainly help, but to suggest they would be sufficient to eradicate the problem is unrealistic, and perhaps people are looking back through ‘rose tinted glasses.’ The crime problem is simply too large now, the solution comes in the form of the RCIP being reformed, modernizing, becoming a professional organization, and being adequately resourced and led, together with the judiciary and prosecutions department undergoing the same process. This will take a decade or so, and that’s only if there are enough people in senior management positions willing to force change, and unfortunately with the best will in the world Cayman does not have a decade to fix this problem.
  15. To Anonymous 10:42 and 10:37, I see where the arrests have been made but until I see CONVICTIONS I will not consider it solved.  Too many arrests have occurred in the past but very few convictions therefore I do not consider it a job well done.  A drug addict will rob a home for petty cash etc. to support his habit but these armed robbers are only doing it because they can.  Come on RICPS, do what the people of Cayman are paying you for and put a stop to the armed robbers.

  16. Anonymous says:

    True East Ender look at the headline ‘Cop Arrest Suspect Robbers’.

  17. Anonymous says:

    A true Eastender, I somewhat agree with your comment, but it is the communities that are responsible here in these islands, all too many people know full well who are perpetrating the crimes but choose to do or say nothing. Many are sons and daughters of parents who either do not want to believe or they are protecting their children from the authorities. In order to stop this wave of crime the residents have to step up and say enough is enough.

    The current prison system is NOT a deterrent, there are many honest law abiding citizens in these islands that live well below the standard of living that exists in the prison system. Once upon a time serious criminals were sent to Jamaica to serve their sentence, ask around no one wanted to go there because it was as most people expect of what a prison should be like.

    No cell phones, no cable television, no air conditioning, no menu choices for three squares a day.

    The old fable of don’t do the crime if you cannot do the time does not apply to our prison in Northward.

    Those that are human rights proponents have not had a serious crime committed against them or their direct family that I am pretty sure of.

    Cayman needs to take back the country and start helpingthe police convict these criminals that are running rough shod over decent citizens, instead all we hear is that the police are doing nothing to help. I will agree they have their faults but two wrongs do not make a right, if the community are doing their part and the police are failing well then we have something to complain about but until then we have nothing to say.

     

  18. Anonymous says:

    This makes six armed robberies since the beginning of the year, with one arrest, that’s a 16% conversion rate – so far. Of course that does not even begin to address successful prosecution and sentencing. This crime solving rate is clearly not good enough.

    All the same, congrats to RCIPS on this arrest and hopefully these suspects won’t be released without charges. 

     

  19. Anonymous says:

    Ok they arrested two people – this has been the normal operation for the Police for sometime now. Charges in these cases are not normaly brought to those arrested – not picking on the RCIP but just stating fact.

    Another fact is that they robbed a store within not, even a walking distance from the Police Station and Offices, but within handshaking distance. This proves that the criminals are not afraid to be apprehended by an Officer of the RCIP.

    Our country is no longer at a cross-roads with crime and ideas. We are now down a road where criminal actions are a part of our every day life.

    The Police brass pay lip service to the crime problem. The more Senior Officers are not on the streets, but instead found it fit to go for a boat trip on the Police boat to boot, which the people of this Island pay for with duties etc fly the helicopter and take pictures and video of a sinking vessel so they can get to know the area in case of an emergency? WIth the crime the way it is I for one could think of many places they could get to know for those reasons. This is just poor that the people of the Island have to except this and move on to read this current headline.

    I do believe Mr. Baines and his upper-crew are playing both sides of the fence. They are not engaging in real Law work, but only dabbling in it. Mr.Baines is living a very comfortable life here in these Islands and so are a lot of the people that are under his command. Look at it from thier seat – why rock the boat?

    England, the Churches and a good percentage of the community are afraid to deal with this criminal activity, for reasons, that while may morally hold some good, and you may think you are saving a life and your own soul for Gods work with trying the passive approach of changing the hearts and minds, (which may be true but that is not the issue here) while themselves and the rest of the populance are held hostage to these thugs daily. The truth be told is that if the Police were to Enforce the Law in a way that got real results, some of these criminals would be shot dead as they would be confronted for the crimes they doing and there would be violence. Noone wants to step up and take them on for real, so instead as a policy we pray for God to help, try and save them, and for a show, to avoid looking totally useless and helpless against these thugs, give a few Police Officers firearms. This is a huge failure as the current criminal activity proves so. We do not even know the extent of the drug dealing, as a whole, no one is doing anything about it! It is rare that you read of any arrests of substance in relation to drugs,firearms or burglary which happens several times of day.

    To top it off Mr.Baines and company are gaining personal wealth and are living in a tropical pardise as they are not here as a favor.

    • Anonymous says:

      Trust me, you are way off mark with most of your comments.  There are a lot of people in the RCIPS (and other organizations) working hard to deal with the problems.  You obviously have a personal gripe, I would really be interested to know what your knowledge base is, and what you do constructively for the Cayman Society and the social issues causing these underlying problems.  I bet not a lot!  Easy to sit in on a Sunday afternoon blogging the negative comments, you could always get off your backside and do something constructive.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Tomorrow the headline will be Police release two suspects for lack of evidence

    • Anonymous says:

      but who can blame the blame the police…its the perfect crime….you go in with masks, rob and you are away in 2 mins…how are the police going to stop or convict this sort of crime?

      we have a government who sends hardworking, honest,educated, crime free,  qualified workers away from this island every day….. welcome to wonderland!

  21. Anonymous says:

    Thanks CNS for keeping us informed even on the weekend, keep up the great work.

  22. Anonymous says:

    The situation is . The criminals rule the street. The commissioner is way out of his league. He can can put a title on whatever type of command he wants to like gold or silver or whatever but they have proven themselves to be ineffective. His subordinates are just as ineffective as he is . The RCIPS constructed a policy of putting in place a bunch of yes men and now they are reaping the rewards of such a policy. Given their limited success with the number of officers employed and the equipment they have (helicopter,mobile police stations, dogs etc) their upper command should all resign and find other carers. Cayman is way past the time for arming the public, if something real and positive is not done soon living here will be like living in some third world country.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hmmmm.  Third world leadership,  Third world type people with first world jobs afraid of first world workers.  Third world drivers.  Third world crime.  Third world courts.  I think Cayman qualified as third world a while back.  Hence the crime, corruption, and a lot of public money paying for a little work and who knows what else because of a total lack of accountability in what  passes for government here.  Yep.  Third world but don’t listen to me.  Better for you to listen to Caymans premier telling you how great you have it.

  23. Anonymous says:

    This seems unending, and most disturbing that these robbers aren’t being apprehended, on an island 22 by 8 it’s absurd. What is going on? And silence from the person in charge of the police (the governor). Is it a lack of expertise on the part of the police or people keeping their mouths shut, or both? Something needs to be done, and pronto, to track down these morons and cage them for a very long time. Mr. Governor : SPEAK!

  24. Bobthebook. says:

    I must say as a part-time resident from the UK I also find it extremely hard to understand how, on such a small islandsomany robberies happen yet not many of the perpetrators seem to get caught?. When you have a situation where because of family ties and relationships it’s difficult to get people to go on juries without being biased, surely by the same token someone MUST know who these robbers are. Why doesn’t CNS, Cayman Compass or Rooster put up a sizeable reward for someone to spill the beans on these parasites who are causing so much heartache to what I have always perceived to be a gentle and God fearing community.

    • Anonymous says:

      Reward money doesn’t work because some of these criminals are gang  members, who protect each other. Those outsiders who give information fear the next bullet could be for them. What’s the point of reward money if you won’t live to spend it? As for for criticizing the Police, I believe they have 10 ongoing prosecutions for ten murders, which looks like success to me. Some of these prosecutions have taken well over a year to prepare. It can be a very slow business. Let’s acknowledge their considerable successes and not focus only on the failures, which are  caused more by lack of cooperation by the public than anything else, as far as I can see.

    • Anonymous says:

      Why would you expect CNS, Cayman Compass or Rooster to put up a reward? 

  25. Anonymous says:

    Put plain and simple, "Armed Robberies" will continue to happen and increase dramatically in the Cayman Islands as long as we continue to have a reactive Police Commissioner, his deputies and others who can’t seem to get the RCIPS into "proactive mode" to deal with these serious offences.

    All you can hear and see is the usual pussy footing and lip service in the media which seems to be the order of the day !!!

    Do you think if Derek Haines was the Commissioner of Police today and had his DTF officers on the streets armed with their firearms, this kind of S@#$ would be happening in Cayman Society without consequences against the criminals ??

     

     

  26. Anonymous says:

    Three robberies…………….. and no one outside the premises robbed sees anything? 

  27. Anonymous says:

    My question is simple.

    In a country of only about 40,000 people, how many police do we have, and how much are we paying for protection?

    Something is awfully wrong when a few criminals can run circles around the entire Royal Cayman Islands Police.

    Other countries, such as Uruguay, dispatch police on old style beats, two by two, lightly armed, and with walky talkies. Crime is almost non-existant.

    The RCIP dispatch police in comfortable cars, and in a very expensive helicopter, costing around CI$1500 per hour. They are unable to  find and arrest truly dangerous drivers, such as those who pass in the center lane, and those who speed through red lights. Instead, they focus on sneaky radar traps to fine and harass ordinary citizens who are not driving dangerously at all. Mostly driving very safely in erroneously posted speed limits. In the meantime, the criminals run circles around them. Even thumb their noses at them.

    The Police Commissioner is busy spending huge amounts of our money installing cameras in urban areas, in an effort to photograph criminals who all wear disguises anyway. To the extent that this accomplishes anything at all, it drives criminals out to rural areas where the police can offer little or no protection at all.

    Meanwhile the police and the government are doing there best toprevent law abiding citizens from arming and protecting themselves.

    What is wrong with this equation?  Why are the Caymanians paying so much for a system which is so ineffective, so protective of criminals and which raises money by harassing its citizens in phony radar traps?

    Instead, Cayman should be training its good citizens in self defence, training them in the use of fire arms, and even giving guns to those who qualify. In that environment, it is easy to see that criminals would not exist for long.

    Switzerland, by law, requires every citizen to be armed. The result is little or no crime.

    What is wrong with us? Why does our government encourage criminals while denying defenseto lts law abiding citizens?

    That, I submit, is the question that we need to answer.
     

     

     

     

  28. noname says:

    Even with an almighty expat – Brit at that – at the helm we are unable to get crime under control on this tiny island.

    Imagine that.

    Going by the comments on CNS I was (almost) under the impression that they were infallible super-beings.

    • Anonymous says:

      "Even with an almighty expat – Brit at that – at the helm we are unable to get crime under control on this tiny island"

      Maybe we need an American at the helm. Get a real hard-ass, law and order type of individual to put some fear into these punks.

  29. Anonymous says:

     The police force here is a joke. The confidence that these burglars have is due to the law’s incompetence. These aren’t even elaborate crimes – I am sure some CCTV and proper investigators will instill fear into these criminals.

    What do you guys think of security guards being granted with non-lethal weapons? They are truly just people in auniform (useless).

  30. TCM29 says:

    You need to hire a team of professional law enforcement professionals with the necessary methods to rid your once beautiful island of the feral scum that is driving away tourism in droves. You are on an island that has lots of money and special interests that would benefit greatly from such action. Better wake up soon, Cayman.

  31. It is quite obvious that these thieves have no fear of the police.  It is time to put the fear of God in them.  I have to work very hard for what I get and it is things like this that is driving the economy into the ground. All these robberies do is cause the cost of living to escalate out of control and I for one am getting very sick of it.  On an island of this size the police should have a much higher percentage of crimes being solved so if they are incapable or not properly trained get rid of them and get someone in that knows what they are doing.

    • Anonymous says:

      Its always good to say get rid of the police, but why not let us try and get rid of the bad guys.  theses theives and robbers.  The police are not harming us, the robbers are.  With little or no resources the police are always working.  Havent they gotten two suspects in custody.  Have we ever thanked them, naah we thank the theives instead.  Let me take this opportunity to say thanks to the officers invilved.  A job well done.

  32. Anonymous says:

    I think with all this crime happening we really need a super hero to help;

    superman,batman, green lantern, hulk…somebody because its not getting any better and no one police,courts or eye witness citizens seem to help

    • Anonymous says:

       "superman,batman, green lantern, hulk…somebody because its not getting any better and no one police,courts or eye witness citizens seem to help"

      Well, my 4 yr old says he’s Spiderman.  Will that help?

    • Anonymous says:

      Perhaps with Cayman’s proximity to water we need Aquaman!

    • Twyla Vargas says:

      I think the police is doing an excellent job, and I also believe that the community has finally seen, and accepted that the police needs their continued assistance to battle crime in Cayman…..Lets face it,  the community  cannot do without the police, and the police cannot do with out the community, so if both parties  realize we need each other so much, then I say we join hands and make Cayman a safe place to live.

      • Twyla Vargas says:

        OK, I will accept that all the  thumbs down are suggesting they do not want to see the police and the community join hands for a safer cayman, otherwise they would have made a written comment with a name to know where they are calling the shots..  Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, whether it is right or wrong and that is your feeling and there is absolutely nothing I can do about that.  Stay safe.

    • Dennie Warren Jr. says:

      Imaginary super heroes are useless to us, but all ordinary residents will be as safe as we have the courage to be.