Top cop vows to find gunmen

| 15/07/2011

(CNS): Speaking in the wake of Wednesday night’s shooting in which a woman leaving her place of work was shot by a robber in Bodden Town, the commissioner has stated that finding the gunmen is a top priority for the police. Island-wide road checks, increased police presence at gas stations and businesses, armed patrols and the squeezing of known offenders are some of the efforts David Baines said were being made to stop the escalating gratuitous and indiscriminate violence used in the two recent robberies, which he said maybe connected.

“We’ve now had two people seriously injured in the last two weeks as a result of robbery related shootings,” said Baines. “The violence used is completely disproportionate to the potential gain. In the jerk stand shooting nothing was taken. (On Wednesday ) night a woman was shot in the shoulder and leg for her handbag, which contained a small sum of cash,” Baines added, noting that the police could easilyhave been dealing with two murders.

Although Kemar Golding was shot through the eye on Wednesday 29 June, he miraculously survived and is currently undergoing treatment in Miami. Meanwhile, the 57 year old woman shot on Wednesday 13 July is recovering from her gunshot wounds at the Cayman Islands hospital.

“While we cannot definitively link the two incidents, the blasé manner in which people were shot, combined with the time and the modus operandi of the crimes, suggest that they may be linked. This has to stop now before people are killed,” the commissioner stated.

“Today I’m thanking the people who have provided information in relation to the crimes. The information has allowed us to carry out searches and vehicle checks – but unfortunately the information supplied has not yet led to hard evidence to arrest those responsible,” he added.

Police said they need the public to continue coming forward and helping officers by providing any information they have.

“No matter how insignificant it may seem, it may be the piece of information that helps us start to gather enough evidence to put these men behind bars.  We have information that what has been described as an ‘old blue/ grey beat up Honda’ may be connected to last night’s shooting.  Officers throughout the Island are currently searching for those types of vehicles through proactive patrols and road checks. If you know anyone who owns such a vehicle, whether it is licensed or not, please let us know,” Baines urged.

Although neither Golding nor the victim in last night’s shooting were carrying any takings from any businesses, the police are also reminding business owners to review their cash handling procedures and also asking them to ensure staff do not park in dark areas.

“It’s seems that the aim of last night’s robbery was to make off with takings from the gas station – but the gunman assumed, wrongly, that his victim was carrying the cash. Shooting a young man in the eye when he has no money or a 57-year-old woman for a small sum of personal cash – is that what Cayman has become?” Baines asked.

“I’m sure that even those involved in criminality on the Island will be repulsed by what happened last night. If they know anything, or hear anyone bragging about it, we need to get that information. As always, information can be passed to us in confidence.”

Anyone who has any information about gun crime should contact their nearest police station, the RCIPS confidential tip line 949-7777 or Crime Stoppers on 800-8477 (TIPS).

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  1. Anonymous says:

    It appears to me that there is a serious criminal underworld in operation here that has to be tackled if order is to be restored.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Ole blue/ grey honda !  would the  D. O .V. L  have  a record of this vehicle and its owner ? or was that info lost in Ivan.

  3. Loren says:

    To anyone with knowledge of these crimes don't be afraid speak out tell what you know to crime stoppers.  If you don't the cycle will continue and this will only get worst.  I pray that you do the right thing.

  4. A conspiracy of change says:

    A change is desperately needed at the RCIPS Commisioner Baines. Those who are partly responsible for this terrible situation we now find ourselves in, cannot be expected to fix it There appears to be no law and order and no order in the law. Without these absolutely necessary changes now, Cayman will suffer even greater consequence and the RCIPS will continue suffering from a lack of confidence and credibility.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Of course you vow to find the gunmen….. IT'S YOUR JOB!

  6. Anon says:

    RCIPS is just not trained/qualified/equipped to handle this crime wave! We have to get help from somewhere!! This is going to destroy us – and when some good citizen takes the law into his/her own hands, that person will probably go to prison. 

    • Anonymous says:

      anon 1037 I think most would agree with you on that one. It is not as if the government is not trying to help. While most departments are losing staff and operating budget the police are gaining. The problem is as you say the quality.

  7. Anonymous says:

    7-15: 9:32

    you are mistaken about criminals traveling out of their area, remember a few years ago we had an increase of breakins on 7mb/WB, when they were caught they all had travelled from EE. criminals go where they have the less possibillity of being identified.

    remember a few years back when jewellery stores and buisnesses were being broken into, it turned out when caught they were highly qualified, braught here and worked for  you know who,                           ya ya   u   guessed   it.

    however a serious shake up is needed if we are to sort out this mess,

    put if that happens then there will be lots of complaints also. one cannot eat their candy and expect to find it in the fridge 10 minutes later.

    people know,    man/woman up     and pass the information on. be a contributor to a trankuil and peaceful society.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Scene:Shopping at Supermaket: question on his mind: will there be a robbery and gunfire in which one could get shot?

    Gas station: fill up his tank and goes to pay the cashier. Question: will there be a robbery in which guns are involved and the possibility of he being shot?

    Locking up at work 8pm: Question :Will an armed assailant approach ,demands money. He has only $12 . Assailant takes it –  but is angry because he does'nt have more. -assailant shoots him through the heart and makes good his escape:

    Can you blame the citizens of these Islands from feeling insecure?

    The above scenarios would never enters the mind of the ordinary man in 1980.

    All the words of comfort by the Commissioner and all the statistics and numbers he presented won't comfort the people of the Islands.

    We need drastic measures to reduce or eradicate the high crimes in the cayman Islands today.

    The Police Chief and the new bobbies from London have never experience life in the Cayman Islands in the 1980s hence when we express our fears they don't understand.

    I see They are dead set against arming the police. As long as this continue the criminal gunmen or rather, gunboys, will always continue their rage. I see a new trend developing, if you have little or no money they will shoot you as a punishment. This is so even if the victim could be their grand mother 57 years old and harmless. Bunch of cowards

  9. Anonymous says:

    stop and search all cars with illegal window tint….. you will uncover alot……

    • Anonymous says:

      Great idea, right on, I couldn't agree more, but wait, whoa, what about those "official" thundering great SUV's the government ride around in. I saw one the other day, flag flying on the engine bonnet and ALL, yes All the windows including the front window screen tinted so dark it was impossibble to see in. I guess the law of the land doesn't apply to some people. But yes I agree with you, get rid of the tint.

    • Anonymous says:

      By this time the criminal is not driving around with illegal tint ,they seem to have figured out  to do the crime at night. and with legal limit tint or none at all is the best way to go.Once the getaway ride is tagged and taxed  they can breeze throught the roadblock with ease.

       

      These days only thing you'll find behind dark tint is the premier, deputy premier and the guy hiding his side woman

    • Anonymous says:

      Anon 0538 please be careful with checking cars with tinted windows, afterall we dont want all of our police arrested. 

  10. Anonymous says:

    Community watch, armed police, and regular patrols at certain hours and certain places.  That's the only way to solve the problem. 

    Businessess: it's time for proper security.  Get some security tips from another country like Jamaica or the US.

    • Anonymous says:

      get security tips from Jamaica and the US….? wow. What about Indonesia or perhaps Ivory Coast?

       

  11. Anonymous says:

    Well,  seriously, take the $10 million back from the church building in BT and put towards more police, police cars, dogs.  $10 million!!!  How many more churches does Caymanneed or doesn't need?  You can pray in a closet! Doesn't take $10 million to talk to God! 

    Shame on you and the pastor that is taking the money! The money and your building make you feel better than the lady that was shot in BT.

    God, like love, is not bought!

    Pastor, give the money back! Shame on you and the person that gave it you from our money!

    • Anonymous says:

      You do realize that the Church of God in Bodden Town was ready to go and build the church without any help from Government. Government invested the money is the church because they want a proper hurricane shelter.

      As for investing money in the police, the Government continues to do that. All other departments in government is getting cut while the police is growing. of course there is little change on crime because of the quality of the police force. You can continue to add police officers but if the quality is not there you will go nowhere.

  12. Blaise Pascal says:

    Law without force is impotent.

  13. Anonymous says:

    If this evil senseless basturd is caught shoot him immediately and save this island from a bad reputation!

  14. Anonymous says:

    Boddens Road is not the worst area in Cayman after all.

  15. Anonymous says:

    Mr. Baines…. I am a robber and thank you for letting me know that your USG officers are on the West Bay road searching cars at this time, I am kind of sleepy right now so I am going to come out a little later after the road block has gone and the officer have gone home, I then may decide to go rob someone.

    ARE YOU STUPID!!!!!!!! HAVE YOUR ARMED OFFICERS IN THE MIDLE OF THE ROAD, SEARCHING FOR A CAR THAT YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT IT IS, OH FORGOT AN OLD BLUE CIVIC (NEEDLE IN THE HAY STACK, 2000 OF THEM).

    As an ex police officer I cannot believe you did this. Sorry forgot community policing, make believe you are showing a presence and in fact not actually trying to solve the case.

    I really am not sure what else to say but this sort of leadership form the English officers is a real joke…. OH before you English get on my case I’m English, so >>>> of you C… These senior guys don’t know what the >>> they are doing.

  16. a naw no mouse says:

    It's now past time to train and arm the Police and Law Abiding Residents!

    The Criminals know they are the only ones with guns. Go Figure!

  17. Caymanian Boat Captain says:

    So you wanted "great leadership and skillful investigators" to enlist into the RCIPS and show "the natives"  how to effectively deal with caribbean criminality…. from far back as 2005 ?? Well you've had them "both" for the past 6 years. And the result's today ??

    Why are home boy's like Marlon and Kurt being put forward "as cushion's" to soften the impact of the public's no confidence in the RCIPS ?? Mr. Baines, please stop the "lip service and the usual pussy footing" to these most serious acts of criminality that are taking place in these once peaceful islands. But wait, aren't we forgetting many of the other "expert leader's- investigator's and followers" in all this mayhem that is taking place ?? They suddenly seemed to have gone underground.

    No need to mention names. 

  18. Xander Cage says:

     

    There is no cure with prevention unless it’s prevented before it becomes an epidemic. Pacifying the public by having more road blocks and police presence is not going to bring these low lifes to justice…a criminal isn’t stupid, if they were our jails would be full. 

  19. Anonymous says:

    Crime is down according to the Best Value Performance Indicators(BVPI). so where is the value and what about the performance; statistics don't work in todays society because the people want results and not media coverage.

  20. Buck says:

    COWARDS rob and shoot unarmed, innocent people. Cowards. Give the brave RCIPS sidearms and watch the cowards run. Crush one coward and the rest will scatter like roaches.

  21. veryconcerned says:

    I dont know about you but I personally would feel a hell of alot safer in country where the Police was "equipted" to handle this types of situations.  Mr. Baines its simple…. you cannot expect a man(RCIPS) to do a job if he doesn't have the correct tools(guns) to do the job.  Simple.

    • Anonymous says:

      I'd feel better if people would learn to spell correctly before offering advice on how to run a police service.

    • Anonymous says:

      Your comment is hysterically funny. 

    • anonimooose says:

      Seriously? You want to give sidearms to all the cops in Cayman? Holy crap! Get off the sauce… that would make the place 100 X more dangerous than it is now…

  22. Maverick (yes, really) says:

    Oh Dave, Dave, Dave, where to begin with this one? XXXX

    A few points to address here. Officer response? Well, despite there being a few dedicated officers left, the supervision is hopeless, and any show of ingenuity or initiative displayed by 'foot soldiers' is taken as a threat by the empire-building middle management.

    K9 unit? Don't make me laugh,XXXX. They couldn't catch a cold in an ice cream factory.

    And as for another of Baines' rediculous sound bites "Shooting a young man in the eye when he has no money or a 57-year-old woman for a small sum of personal cash – is that what Cayman has become?”

    – Yes Dave, that is EXACTLY what YOU have allowed Cayman to become.Stop kissing donkey, grow a pair, and do the job you were hired for, 'without fear or favour' Remember that?

    Take action Cayman! As for a cop being shot? They have to be in the same place as a criminal first…

    It used to be 'one bad apple spoils the barrel' Now it's 'a barrel full of bad apples spoils the country'. Mark my words, there are only maybe a dozen, at most, cops that you would WANT to have patrolling your streets Cayman.

    Sorry it's long CNS, but it needs to be said…

     

    • Anonymous says:

      My oh my, me thinks a very disgruntled policeman maybe.

      • maverick (yes really!) says:

        YUP! And like the others who've been ousted, I'm still frustrated at not being able to contribute to a safer Cayman.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes, this is the responsibility of a Police Commissioner who hasbeen on island for a little more than two years. To all you people slinging mud, why don't YOU grow a pair and take responsibility for the failings of this country. This scenario results from a complete failure of society to educate its children to act responsibly, and from everyone who finds it impossible to take ownership of the problem.

    • Anonymous says:

      Maverik, you are absolutely right. But they have no mental capacitied to understand you. And those who can, have no shame. They have a duty to pretect and serve. And if the can't, they have to step down. Don't want to? Well, karma will catch up with them, sooner or later.

    • Anonymous says:

      I also though that comment was a bit patronizing. 

  23. Anonymous says:

    We cannot do the same things over and over and expect different results.

  24. Anonymous says:

    These criminals have to be caught.  If not, the increase in police presence in certain areas will only drive them to a new, unexplored area for their crimes. 

    They have to be caught and punished so severely that they and others like them will not think about it again. If you can rehab a couple great but I doubt people who shoot people for the fun of it can be rehabbed.  They are beyond repair in my book, lock them up and throw away the key.

    In the beginning I thought that, it was mostly druggies killing each other and quite frankly I had no issue with them killing each other. But now it has become open season on the honest citizens of this country. Children, a unarmed young man and an elderly woman  are being shot for nothing.

    We all know the criminals are well armed. It is the victims/honest citizens that are not. It's like lambs to the slaughter at present!  I have no desire to be a lamb, damn it!! Ifthe leaders of this county can't get it under control let us all have a gun and some classes.  At least the killing field will be level.

  25. T K says:

    Poor old Mr Baines same old crew same old foolishness.

    Thursfield had them didn't have a clue but had stong Drugs Task Force crime undercontrol drugbust up

    Braggs had them and promoted them=Crime escalates   started to dismantle DTF Hurricane Ivan and drug bust almost nil

    Kernohan had them took advice from them=crime on steady rise destroys DTF on their advice.

    George had them  started to make changes=crime starts to decrease

    Smith had them tried to make changes saw improvement=Crime decreases

    Baines promoted and placed in senior positions=crime gets out of control

    There is a little synopsis for u and they love the Stats check them? Time 4  a change Cayman

  26. Anonymous says:

    So I woke up this morning and was happy not to read any reports of robberies over the night. Now whilst going to work, I see the gas stn (Hungry Tiger) by Dog City has crime scene tape around it. I have not read any articles about this only what persons what persons are writing on CNS, any updates? I hope nobody was injured.

    Mr. Baines just my humble advice, I see on weekend nearly every police officer on the road (ok, WB rd); well crimes are not just happening on the weekends, as you can see.

    Again my humble advice is to go back to the old shift system, not the 4 days on 4 off but the 4 shift system.

    All departments work on it like in the past, for example;

    4 shifts in GT, WB and BT – Uniform, CID, DTF, Traffic and USG

    7am-3pm

    3pm-11pm

    11pm-7am

    Floating shift

    Man power per shift:

    CPS – 16 officers uniform, 1 Inspect, 2 Sergeants, 13 Constables

    CID – 3 officers, 1 Sergeant, 2 Constables

    DTF – 3 officers, 1 Sergeant, 2 Constables

    WB – 7 officers, 1 Inspector, 1 Sergeant, 5 Constables

    BT – Same as WB

    Traffic – 4 officers, 1 Sergeant, 3 Constables

    USG – 6 officers, 1 sergeant, 5 Constables.

    (Now if you don’t have enough Sergeants, replace them with Senior Constables)

    This would mean on any one shift you would have a total of 46 officers on the Duty during a shift, I believe what is good about this, is that the officers end up working as a team and get to know each other, therefore will work together.

    I believe also this would reduce your OT hours, I spoke to an officer the other day and he currently is owed 12 plus weeks. Ifthis is just one person I dead to see how many officers are of on TL or vacation throughout the year, probably half the force.

    Can anyone let us know how many officers have been working the night shift when all these crimes have been taking place over the last few weeks?

    I am not a professional but have spoken to ex senior officers and constables and they believe this would work.

    JUST A THOUGHT

    • Anonymous says:

      You have better eyes that I have, I am out every night from South Sound to George Town and back on West Bay Road and see not a one police patrol car.  Baines can come up with excuses all he wants but it is results that the public want and deserve from this police force.  He certainly has been here long enough to know how things work and he should have enough experience to fix the situation or at least improve it.  If not, time to go home and find a replacement.  Talk is cheap and we have had enough of that. 

    • Anonymous says:

      They have no skills or proper training, mental abilities to think outside the box. They are no different than you and me in their abilities to work as professional law enforcement officers. Shifts change, overtime? What you are talking about?

  27. nauticalone says:

    With all the money and other resources spent on Policing in Cayman over the past decade, the results are truly dissapointing (to say the least).

    And please Mr. Policeman stop with the excuse of "it's not like CSI"……try "the first 48hrs"……or "America's Most Wanted"……if you must use telivison shows to explain your efforts at Police work…..or lack thereof.

    Please show how the Police are being "Intelligently Aggressive"?

    Because the People are NOT "feeling it"!

  28. Anonymous says:

    Like the Intelligently aggressive strategy and gun amnesty a dismal failure now crime is down?????? time for change Cayman time for change Cayman!!!!!!!

  29. apprentice says:

    The Police can't do it on their own. It takes community effort. What ever happened to public telephones by bus stops, in neighborhoods, and along secluded streets?  Phones that have the option of automatically dailing crime stoppers or 911. It would be ideal for witnesses that don't want their faces marked by a criminal and are scared of their calls being traced by the Police.   

    I think we are relying too much on the Police and that is why we are not catching the criminals.

  30. NJ 2 Cay says:

    In my opinion, and please note that it is my own personal opinion. The reason behind these unprovoked shootings is that these guys are sending a clear message to the People of Cayman as well as the law makers that we are in charge now and there's nothing you can do to stop us. And I have to say that it certainly seems that way, they are committing these crimes shooting and robbing people with absolutely no resistance. To them it must be like take candy from baby, the current laws effectively protect these crooks and insure that they meet no resistance when committing criminal acts such as this, the RCIPS is effective in keeping innocent civilians unarmed and unable to protect themselves while their own officers are just as unarmed and unable to offer any resistance. The push to have people turn in firearms only enhances this situation because only the law abiding people will turn them in, while the outlaws will keep their firearms to use against people they know are not armed. They must be looking at the RCIPS and saying thanks for making our lives easier. The Outlaws are obviously the most well armed individuals on the Island, soon people will be forced to pay them protection or face the consequences. The Mafia effect in its infancy.

    There's a war going on in Cayman and the people are losing. It certainly seems it's time to change Generals and put someone in place that knows how and is willing to fight and win this war. When the enemycontinually come out of his hiding place to terrorize people, the only answer in to go into their den flush them out and eradicate them , it's time to meet force with force. Unfortunately the RCIPS is not in the position to do this and neither are the people of Cayman. Until this changes, everyone will have to deal with this unfortunate and distasteful reality.
     

  31. Patna's dream says:

    Libertarian please give yourself a break! We have past that blame game a long time ago, you are starting to sound like a broken record. Anon 7:23 you have hit the nail right on its head a serious and drastic change is urgently needed now and is well overdue. This has been coming along time before Commissioner Baines got here he has inherited the same problem and people as the past 5 administrations has had . Isn't now obvious that promoting these people simply promoted the problem also. Their removal is now essential and will be a key component in turning the tide on this crime situation in these islands. I recall someone posting a piece on crime cycles i think that is an aspect that needs some serious attention by the NSC or the Governor. This has gone on too long now and all we getting is gun amnesty rubbish and a bunch of gibberish from those involved. The attendance at these meetings should alarm or be a wake up call to the Commissioner of Police when it comes to confidence and credibility of those involved and the RCIPS as a whole. Time 4 change Cayman!

  32. The Truth says:

    They could care less about catching criminals, did ya'll know that they purchased 10 new doge chargers to patrol the island in style. They are more of and expense than an asset to us. And people please!…stop all this talk of crack heads and gang initiations, its just simply become a "bad man" culture. these are young school leavers who have nothing but idol time on thier hands, notice all these robbers are like 5'5 5'7 5'10. YOUNG TEENS, NO JOBS = CRIME….its as simple as that. Dont be so nieve.

    • Anonymous says:

      If they could care less… why don't they.

      teens?  ….  or maybe hottentots.  

       

  33. Anonymous says:

    This just looks like "damage control" to me.

    • Anonymous says:

      Of course this is damage control, but people need to stop blaming the police for these kinds of things.  Police are a tool of governance.  They don't make the rules and can't just go around arresting people as they see fit.  There are legal processes they have to follow and if they arrest people without probably cause and other things like that, criminals walk.  Everyone out there seems to watch CSI and every other cop show on TV and should realize that even though the cops might know exactly who the person is, they just can't knock down a door and arrest them.  The police are doing much more than most people around here.  Commnities need to band together and help with these problems.  I would be willing to bet $100,000 that most of the criminals live within 3 miles of where most of these crimes are happening.  Criminals don't venture out of their comfort zones when committing these crimes.  Someone from West Bay isn't commuting to Bodden Town to stick up middle aged women.  They don't know the roads, the back alleys, or the family houses where they can hide if they need to.  We need to all have community watch programs and families need to turn in the rats.  Sometimes mothers, fathers, aunts, and uncles turn the other cheek towards youngsters doing these crimes because they think they will grow out of it….the fact is that they don't.  The crimes become worse and more sinister…..a general mistrust starts to spread through neighborhoods, bars on windows on business start to become more and more evident, soon houses have bars on windows and doors.  Guess what happens next?  Tourism goes away and so do the financial companies…..then a big snowball starts to form and we go down down down from there.  Some people think that tourism and finance aren't related in any way.  Most of the people from all over the world choose to have their finance company or captive insurance company here in Cayman because it is a nice place to visit their money.  They can find places that have the same tax laws and governments that are far more willing to work with them.  Cayman is a safe place but I wonder how much longer we can truly believe it and I wonder how much longer we have after that to fool the world that we are still safe……

      STOP BLAMING THE POLICE!

      • Anonymous says:

        Start by finding these criminals then you wontbe blamed.  Until then we are going to blame police for not doing spot checks of people riding up and down in the night going no place.

         

  34. Jungle Juice says:

    CNS: Any idea why the Hungry Tiger gas station by dog city was taped off when I drove past at 515 this am? Armed po-lice were also on the scene.

    Have the po-lice given up reporting crimes now? I'm no expert, but it looked like a crime scene to me!

    CNS: We're waiting for the police response to our queries.

    • anon says:

      There was another armed robbery this morning. Now that they are hitting gas stations, armed undercover police should be on the watch at such locations.  

  35. Dred says:

    My belief also is that these two are linked. I woudl say one of two things is happening here:

    1. These are messages to the wider public that the criminals are still here and they should be taken serious. They are trying to instill fear in the community. It's working!!
    2. These are initiations for new gang members who must EARN street cred to gain membership.

    The reason I say this is because they were both unnecessary shootings and if you look at Kemar's statement where he says one of the robbers said "give him one" it makes you think it was meant to be a shooting especially where people there said the shooting was unprovoked.

    Now if you look at the lady in BT why shoot? A young guy would have easily been able to snatch teh purse and run away. A gun shot rings out and people see you running away. You also run teh risk of a simple robbery turning into a murder. It just don't make logical sense. Now that's not to say all criminals employ commonsense but things just don't add up.

    Look at all that has happened to date with all the bank jobs, home robberies and business robberies we haven't had any gun fire except for when an invader was shot and killed by a resident. Something has either changed OR this was an initiation.

  36. Bodden says:

    I will you one thing, if he is not found, we could have a senseless SERIAL KILLER on our hands. All his shootings were intended to kill – this is more than robbery!

    • Anonymous says:

      There is absolutely no reason to be using the words "serial killer" here. Nobody has been killed and there is no indication that at least in this 2nd robbery that the shots were intended to kill (wrong areas of body). Hysteria will not help in this situation. 

    • Anonymous says:

      Possibly not a serial killer, but certainly a pathetic loser.

      People want respect? This is not the way; stupid babies think they tough with guns; take away the guns & they can't get money; be men & try to work & live like adults, not immature fags on a one way ticket to jail.

    • Anonymous says:

      que the spooky music…. or maybe the pathetic loser music. oops, the pathetic loser music is already playing

  37. Anonymous says:

    Increased Police presense at gas stations? What happened to Brown's Esso last night??? Broken windows and crime scene tape this morning? Okay then.

  38. Anonymous says:

    Hopefully they will find this pondscum gun in hand, and have a reason to bypass the courts and save the tax payers 75K a year for this slimy thug.

  39. Anonymous says:

    CNS, can you find out what exact actions were taken within 10 min after police received the calls abouth both shootings?  IS THERE A PROCEDURE??? Hey, I am just a layman. This is what I would have done. All roads in the vicinity of crimes would have been blocked. Canine unit ( I hope they have one here) whould have been at a crime scene and following a fleeing criminal. Helicopter would have been searching as well. All within 10 min. What did the police do?

    • Anonymous says:

      I had the helicoptor following me for about 20 mins while I was walking my dog.  Aparently they have more important things to do than fly to a scene of a crime to see who is trying to flee.  Just my 0.02

       

  40. Anonymous says:

    The horse is out. Where were the police 15  min. after the shooting? Enough time to catch him.

  41. Anonymous says:

    Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted it sounds like to me.

    Less PR about how crime is down please and get on with the job.  Its what you lazy people are paid to do, not run around in police cruisers on your cellphones or using police vehicles to do your shopping and picking up girlfriends and wives.

    • Anonymous says:

      Or checking on your parking lot resurfacing jobs whilst you are in uniform and in a police car.

      • Anonymous says:

        that is sooooo funny.  and sooo indicative of why things probably aren't going to change.  I am a contractor and am always amused at the subs that are running (and I use the term lightly) jobs while they are on the government's (read yours and mine) clock.

        Party on … the weather is great.  Like in Paradise they tell me

  42. Anonymous says:

    Cayman is fast becoming a gun culture with these thugs on the loose.While Mr. Baines efforts are admirable, unless the RCIPS implements some major changes, its going to be tough for them to get control of the criminal element in Cayman. Take a serious look at how the JDF in Jamaica enforces their authority, that is what is needed here in Cayman now, nothing less.

    • Anonymous says:

      That's because, in Jamaica, we don't try to fool ourselves about what type of people we have living amongsts us who are cold-blooded murderers and gunmen.

      We don't bury our heads in the sand and pretend they are not there and not doing the things that they do…and what we need to do to stop them.

      Since the Jamaican Government and the JDF trampled on Tivoli Gardens and turned Dudus Coke over to the US Government ,gang-land rule of Jamaica has been broken….when the police in Jamaica name certain people of interest and order them to report to a police station, they are now coming in pissing themselves….when we say. 'we coming fi uunnu', they know exactly what that means.

      Cayman doesn't have the cojones to request a squad of the JDF military to assist in quelling this gun violence but I guarantee you…these little pieces of human garbage running around shooting innocent people have never run into a JDF roadblock…..they would be wee wee ing in their pants and crying for their mammas if they ever did.

      XXXX

      • Anonymous says:

        10:37 I am going to say AMEN to your comment, because it is true, very true, and I am a Caymanian saying this.

        We need a radication squad in here for 6 months or a year contract.  he Government needs to stop spending money on foolisness and get these criminals.  If they dont,……..read my lips…….one day they will rob or shoot someone who will turn Vigilente and in the quiet of the night take out all of the little wasters the find creeping about after hours.  Mark my word if this does not take place.

        • Anonymous says:

          What will happen is another Natilie Halloway type killing that happened in Aruba, and the tourists will avoid this island like the Plague.  After that, people will have will have to turn to crime to feed their families.  Where are the police raids and how come every time I go through a road block the cops only look at the sticker on my windshield? 

  43. Libertarian says:

    "Anyone who has any information about gun crime should contact their nearest police station, the RCIPS confidential tip line 949-7777 or Crime Stoppers on 800-8477 (TIPS)."

    Well there you go, people. No need to identify yourself to give a statement – I hope. And if you want to ensure more confidentiality, you can always use a public phone box. Definitely, the Police can't do this on their own without the bits and pieces of information needed to provide evidence to convict the accused person.And it just takes one brave civilian to come forward with that important piece of the puzzle.

    Again, we will accomplish little by pointing the finger on who is to blame and who is at fault. As a community, we are all in this together. We all have to look out for each other and yes… even other people's children. Civic responsibility must begin with us, not with just teachers, police officers, and politicians if we want to rid society from its major crimes.

  44. Anonymous says:

    Sorry bud but your a little behind the ball.  I think pretty much everyone else could see that violent incidents were on the rise in Cayman and if left relatively unchecked it would obviously escalate in number of occurances and brutality.  Anyway glad to see you are finally onboard…maybe you can let the Premier in on your enlightenment.

  45. Anonymous says:

    We all want these criminals caught.  With all due respect to the Commissioner, please don't send unarmed police officers to deal with armed situations.  I don't think its a good idea to have all officers armed but I have recently seen armed officers around and about and no one should be expected to attend an armed situation without a weapon.  No one wants to see anyone else get shot police officer or civilian.  The person(s) who shot this lady and Kemar has no humanity.  You took her bag, why did you have to shoot her?  Why did you have to shoot Kemar?  To the shooters' families, if you know what your family member did, do the right thing, turn them in.  You may well be next!  

    • Anonymous says:

      What happened to the South Africans employed by RCIPS on the old USG?

      They weren't exactly the sort of guys you f**k around with.

  46. Anonymous says:

    "Tough on crime, tough ON THE CAUSES of crime."  Remember that phrase, Mr. Baines?

    • Anonymous says:

      I'm sure he does remember it. I just don't see what Baines can do about an atrocious education system and people failing to take responsibility for children and actions.

      • Anonymous says:

        spot on.  people wont take the responsability, so they need someone to take the blame.  It's simple physics