Locals to get reserve jobs

| 26/09/2011

(CNS): As part of the forthcoming rollover suspension, the labour minister has announced that a range of jobs will be set aside as the reserve of Caymanians only or a limit imposed on the number of work permits that can be issued in the country in a given year. The labour minister revealed that a draft bill will come before the Legislative Assembly in November designating certain positions as exclusively reserved for Caymanians or in some case a quota system will control the number of permits for a specific type of job. The bill has come out of a private member’s motion by UDP backbenchers and debated in the Legislative Assembly last September, where it was proposed that a committee would be established to examine the concept.

Although government has not yet indicated which positions will be carved out as the preserve of local workers only, speaking in West Bay at a public meeting last week, Rolston Anglin said that a draft bill had been drawn up to give effect to that motion and it was ready to come to the Legislative Assembly. The bill, which will form part of numerous amendments that are expected to the immigration law, will designate specific jobs and professions for Caymanians that will be implemented alongside the rollover suspension to protect and create job for locals.

He said the rollover was never about protecting Caymanian jobs and was always about population control. Anglin said that it was economic growth that would generate new jobs and career opportunities for Caymanians, not keeping rollover, as fears about what would happen had been raised at the meeting.

The minister said that government had now taken the view that there ought to be certain professions or certain careers that will be designated “either fully or partially” as belonging to Caymanians only and not work permit holders.

He said that it was clear when business owners are giving the opportunity of hiring a young Caymanain with no experience versus a cheaper alternative from elsewhere with experience, they always hire the cheaper alternative, despite the permit fees. The minister said the new law would go some way to address that issue and would be implemented alongside the rollover suspension.

“Government is moving forward with this very important piece of legislation,” he said. “And that needs to be considered in conjunction with the decision to review the social and economic impacts of the rollover policy.”

Anglin did not give any indication of which jobs were likely to be carved out  for locals or what research the committee that had reviewed the proposal had conducted. During the debate about the proposal in the Legislative Assembly last year, he had pointed to heavy equipment operators as one of the jobs that might be a reserved occupation.

According to the Hansard record, Anglin had said, “A few decades ago all of us in this House knew who the heavy equipment operators were in this country,” but added, “It grieves me every time I see a non-Caymanian on a backhoe.”

He said there were many skilled and semi-skilled positions for which businesses had been making excuses, saying that they could not find a Caymanian.

“As there is that option of a work permit available in certain professions, the natural gravitation for a business owner — and I’m not talking about a business owner doing anything wrong, I’m talking about them being a business owner — The natural gravitation for a business owner is to go to try the find the employee who is ready right now, that you don’t have to train, that you don’t have to invest in, and guess what — that you don’t have a risk that they are going to easily leave your business,” he said to his legislative colleagues.

“If you take the option away, I am convinced you will be surprised how quickly people will find young Caymanians and train them,” the minister had added.

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  1. Just Commentin' says:

    Setting aside a range of jobs is only a small token measure, in my view meant to mollify and attract votes from the working class that Mac needs to put their mark for him to win the next election.

    I am not wholly buying in to the whining about discrimination, but, if it is true that qualified Caymanians are being overlooked for employment in favour of expats, it would be because of anti-Caymanian hiring preferences of businesses. Right?  If the businesses were pro-Caymanian then this should not be an issue. Right? We need to enact legislation that sets aside a range of businesses that must be Caymanian-owned/operated and (hopefully) pro-Caymanian. As things are now, an outside investor wishing to set up an enterprise here only needs to advertise for Caymanian investors and put a prohibitively high minimum investment; when no Caymanian investor/partners are forthcoming, then they are given the go ahead to do business here. That is way too easy.

    If we already had strict and well-implemented Caymanian-only business legislation in place, there would be increased entrepreneural opportunity and potential for upward mobility into business ownership for Caymanians; there would also be a lot less competitive pressure on existing Caymanian-owned businesses. If we reserve merely "jobs" and not businesses, we foster the creation of a labour underclass who are working for the The Man but who have scant chance of becoming The Man.

    In addition, I believe that businesses owned by non-Caymanians should be taxed. (Yup! I used the "T-word"!) The tax revenue should go into a fund that supports vocational and business training for  Caymanians and to providing soft loans for business financing (start-up, expansion, capital financing, to Caymanians – and for the promotion and support for existing Caymanian businesses.

    Ok, I could write a lot more, but you get the idea, now I gotta get back to work…

  2. Anonymous says:

    For a list of Caymanian only jobs how about following the Bermuda "Closed" or "proscribed" or restricted" categories.  Anyone interested can find it at this link http://bermuda-online.org/employwp.htm.  I am not sure that this would work though as Bermuda went all out to educate its people and to prepare them for employment within Bermuda and beyond.  At the same time all of their leaders are pro Bermudians while some of our leaders believe Cayman's problem is an unemployable issue.  Unfortunately there seem  to be only two pro Caymanian leaders, the rest are for development and developers and more employment and jobs while Caymanians are being left further and further behind.  Sad situation but true,  the President of UCCI give the best advice to young Caymanians, get an education prepare yourselves and if you cannot find a job in Cayman get your British Citizenship and seek out opportunities in the European Union, opportunities are there for the young.  Travel the world and experience life and living elsewhere.  Young Caymanians forget about handout and entitlement create your own future draw on the strenghts of your forefathers go to Europe and create you own Cayman like your anscestors did in Galveston Texas, Tampa Florida, Louisana, the Bay Islands and many other places.  Let the world see what Native Caymanians did and can do again, let us create our own societies elsewhere if we are not allowed to in Cayman and when the time is right we will return to the land of our fathersand mothers like the Jews did.  Let us take a few examples from the Jews, education and morals first and the rest will fall in place. 
     

  3. Anonymous says:

    “It grieves me every time I see a non-Caymanian on a backhoe.”

    As Julius Caesar said "Et tu, Brute?"

    It grieves me every time our politicians open their mouths.

    Cayman should have been a place of educational excellence but due to ignorance and/or incompetence we are now in this position.  We should have been producing highly skilled workers to supply the world.

  4. Anonymous says:

    next thing you know you will be telling us to employ women

    What is the world coming to?

  5. Anonymous says:

    KEEP THE LIST GOING

    DRESSMAKERS

    TAILORS

    BAR TENDERS

    GARDENERS

    CHEF

    DISHWASHER

    • Loopy Lou says:

      Bartenders?  OMG are you trying to kill the tourism industry?  Any Caymanian who wants a job as a bartender could get a job now.  Same goes for diswashers, tailors, etc.  All these jobs require foreign labor because there is not enough interest in employment from Caymanians.

      A job advert and no suitable candidate is and should always be sufficient.

      • Anonymous says:

        I came of legal age in the late 70's, went dining and partied more of the early 80's and let me tell you most of the bartenders were Caymanians. To date I have yet to experience the calibre of service that was rendered by those hospitality workers of the 70s and 80s.  When those  people left the industry in the mid to late 90's Cayman's tourism and service industry fell into decline and will never regain its place of prominence until we find and train real Caymanians for these positions.  99.9% of the service rendered by bartenders and wait staff now in Cayman are of such poor quality, there are no real Caymanians in these positions.

        • Anonymous says:

          Alas those calibre workers were in the last generation who had good work ethics and a positive attitude.  Unfortunately this generation has many who can't be bothered and have negative attitudes.  

      • Anonymous says:

        Poster 19:10 you don’t know what the blow wow you talking bout of course how could you wid your neck tie job

    • Anonymous says:

      OMG Keep the list going how about this list from Bermuda http://bermuda-online.org/employwp.htm read for yourself and for those who believe Cayman employment is too restrictive and no country in the world have any such employment restrictions here it is in black and white from our sister island Bermuda.

      "Closed" or "proscribed" or restricted" categories

      Under no circumstances or in only very special and pre-approved by Bermuda Immigration circumstances (for example, if you are married to a Bermudian for longer than three years or such other item as may be applicable) can non-Bermudians (non nationals) find employment in Bermuda in any junior clerical or lower management or middle management administrative, or clerical or technical or management fields. They include all construction workers, allied trades and the following:

      Airline Ground Agent Bank Teller Bartender
      Broadcaster or newspaper columnist (if you live in Bermuda) Butler Cable linesman
      Carpet installer or layer Carpenters Cleaning
      Construction Tradesmen Disc jockey Electricians
      Entertainer/ Musician Fisherman Floor Supervisor
      Housekeeper (live out) House painter Landscape gardener 
      Landscaping Independent or freelance consultant Kitchen porter
      Laborer, general Maid (live out) Masons
      Mechanic (including car or moped/scooter) Office receptionist Packer at grocery store or other
      Part-time anything Photographer Plumber
      Postmaster or postal supervisor postal carrier or post office clerk Presenter on radio Salesperson in retail
      Sales manager Ship or branch pilot Self-employed in any capacity
      Stone cutter Store or shop clerk Summer or seasonal jobs of any kind
      Swimming pool serviceman Sound equipment operator Taxi-driver
      Technician Telephone mechanic Telephone linesman
      Travel Agent/ Consultant Wall Paper Technician Waiter

       

  6. Shepherd says:

    Ok then, the Government should start with itself.

    No really, and anyone in the employment sector will tell you.  The Caymanians who are sensible, moral, ethical, and the ones who have gone off to get an education are ALL employed.  I work with a lot of Caymanians who are hard-working people.

    Then you have those who don't want to work and every country who has a welfare type system have these types.  They flap their gums, hold out their hands, demand the country take care of them and how badly done to they are.

    Let the government hire these people, rather than push it on the private sector.  Don't tell businesses who they should hire, what business in their right mind would want to go through the hassle of workpermits if they could hire someone local, who will do the job with honesty and integrity.  Really.

    • Head in the .. says:

      They already do.  Its called Civil service.  And its full up and working(pun intended) badly.  And it only cost about $200 million a year to feed.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Their are young Caymanians now going away to University and coming back to nothing. Thereare some positions that need no further education just experience and still we are bamboozled. Even worse if the boss is a foreigner and they see a threat of the Caymanian starting from the bottom or middle and being trained to get their position they try to make them get fired or quit. I am not making this up , i have experienced this twice from expat managers.I do agree that thier are many Caymanians that are lazy but that is every country and believe me you have a lot of expats also that are lazy and get more perks and higher pay than if A Caymanian had that position.  Yes, I have been there and done that! 

    • Anonymous says:

      Hogwash – the only person you can blame is the person you look at in the mirror each morning. Stop your whining and get on with it

  8. Anonymous says:

    To 7:40 I totally agree with you. One of my relative just completed a trade in mechanics over at Superior Auto and is now working. Just to let you know that Trade schools and facilities are already here on island. We just need to find them and encourage our young people to attend the courses for whatever period. Check with UCCI, I am sure they offer several trades over there.  My relative and others stuck it out with Superior Auto for one year and they are all now employed at various reputable garages.

  9. Anony Mous says:

    I am not sure why this is needed at this time. Are there a known number of us who are willing to do a particular type of work and is not getting it simply because we are Caymanians?

    I was neutral all this time but the UDP is pushing me to lean to one side. If memory serves me correctly, we had a Board set up just for us which went by the name of Caymanian Protection Board, this name was changed because it was said at the time that the name was not what the true immigration polices were so we had say to the out side investors that we do not have any protectionism here, so the name was changed to the Work Permit Board. We all know that it was only a name change to fool the investors. Politics then, politics now.

     Say what they might, the Term Limit law was brought about to protect jobs for us, but we did not take advantage of this period so now election is around the corner, the UDP is now talking about protecting jobs for us. May be some one in government is intending to go into heavy equipment business, oh I am sorry, one is already in it, so they can use the minimum wage law to pay these workers KY$ 5.00 per hour.

    People, remember that if their plans go ahead as planed, there will be a lot of heavy equipment work to be done. Does any one remember the Paradise Manor construction fiasco? Watch out when all this is done, who has what type of business.

     

  10. Anonymous says:

    if you own a business in Cayman now might be a good time to sell it before you are saddled with a bunch of protected employees with no incentive to work.

    It's like what happened in America's "rust belt" where the unions basically priced themselves out of the labour market with their protectionist demands. The result was devastating as factories closed their doors and shifted overseas into cheaper labour markets and those places never recovered.

    • Anonymous says:

      The lesson was only learned after everything went bust because the labor was not smart enough to see the future.  Same thing happening here for the same reason.  All anyone can do is get out of the way and watch as the fools ALL(leadership to labor) Kill their one Goose.

      Then when it is all gone (just a matter of time)  We smart ones can come in and take over.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Ban all protectionism.

    How about the government does away with the rollover, business staffing plans, protecting jobs for Caymanians only and firms having to demonstrate that there is not a Caymanian that can do the job prior to employing an expat.

    How about a simple free market, where people (in jobs and all aspects of their lives) are judged and treated based on their merits?

    That way anyone unemployed would be better advised to stop complaining and get themselves better educated, trained, experienced (all of which I have had to do, including by working through university to pay my way and by taking a great many lowly paid jobs in the UK). Soon there would be no stigma attached to Caymanians. Presently there is.

    I have conducted interviews for a company here in Cayman and half of the applicants did not turn up for their interview. Of those that did, most had no skills whatsoever in the line of work the job was offering. None. They were utterly, laughably useless. Of those that we offered the job, they continually turned up late, if at all and two left within days or weeks of being employed. It was pathetic.

    Start having to compete. Demonstrate that you can do the job better than me – compare our CV's and the problem will be solved.

    Ask not what your country (and it's employers can do for you), ask what you (as an employee, or entrepreneur) can do for your country!

    • Anonymous says:

      Bit like comparing the CV of a reporter from a certain news agency with that of a very important person in government….?

    • Anonymous says:

      I'll add that there are hundreds of people that habitually arrive early to work only to sit in the lot in their idling cars listening to divisive Rooster chatter til 9:01.  All that extra time could have  lead to recognition and promotion, and they squander it.

      • Anonymous says:

        Well seems like Caymanians have Rooster and the expats have CNS and the thumbs down.  Let me remind you long before you and many other expats knew where to find Cayman on a map let alone heard about these islands "We Native Caymanians" have done every type of job imaginable to satisfaction and with pride to make this rock a place that people like you can come here today to try to bad mouth and displace our people.  I am one of those people who have no fear of going back to the 70s and 80s because every single Caymanian and the few non Caymanians who were here at that time worked together and got along fine, a time when there was really zero unemployment and no welfare and not to mention good political leaders and excellent governance.  A time when Royal Palms, Holiday Inn, Galleon Beach, Beach Club, West Indian Club, Caribbean Club, SeaView, SunSet House, Casa Bertmar, Spanish Bay, Tortuga Club, Grand Old House, Lighthouse Club, Lobster Pot, Cayman Arms, Barclays Bank, Royal Bank, Bank of Nova Scotia, CNB, Washington International, First Cayman Bank, IMS, Hunter and Hunter, Bruce Campbell and Company, WS Walkers, Richardson Greenshield (Government departments)  and the many other financial institutions were staffed by 95% if not 100% Caymanians.  

        Let me remind you Caymanians are not people who seek the limelight and crave promotions at all cost if you have not notice this "Real Caymanians" are not seekers of fame or fortune, we are humble people full of grace and humility. Please don't try to change us to conform to your standards again let me remind you we are in Cayman and love being Caymanians in our own country.  

        • JP says:

          You may have no fear of going back to the 70's and 80's, but the rest of us do. Please do not speak as if you are speaking for us all, becasue you are not. Thank you.

        • BoyWonder says:

          Here we go again, trotting out the 'native caymanian" line to try and ellivate yourself above others. Sick of hearing it.

          • Anonymous says:

            Sick of hearing "Native Caymanian" try this it might sound better even if it means the same 'Caymanian with DNA to Terra Firma", now how is that? sounds much better I hope.  BoyWonder sorry if you are not "Native Caymanian" don't go hating those of us that are.  You can be native of somewhere too if you choose to return to you country of origin then you won't have to be sick of hearing "Native Caymanian", sick of it yet ? one more time for you BoyWonder, "Native Caymanian". 

            • Anonymous says:

              You know, looking around me, I wonder why you take so much pride in calling yourself a "Native Caymanian".  Your country, if you haven't noticed, is being steered very quickly down the tubes by a bunch of "Caymanians with DNA to Terra Firma," as you rather ambiguously call them.   And you, doing your level best to alienate everyone around you, are not helping.

              Terra Firma, by the way, means "firm earth," not sand.  And I'm not sure how one could have "DNA to" anything, grammatically speaking.  

               

               

            • BoyWonder says:

              Sorry but I am 'native caymanian' under your definiton, I just do not agree with dividing up our community as you do. But as awlays just becaseu I do not trot the common prejudiced line which you share- you assume I am an expat. Wrong on so many counts. I wish we could ship you off to a rock in the ocean and be done with you. Then you could be king of your own rock and native to it – goodluck my bigoted friend. And yes still sick of hearing "native caymanian". 

            • so anonymous says:

              Na(ga)tive Caymanian!  Hear my worlds!  When your own ancesters came to this uninhabited island they were as expat as any.  They were native to many different countries but not Cayman.  No Caymanian is truley a Native of this island but an ancestor of a Jamaican,  Cuban, Portugese, etc.   Your family was here before others were.  But they were all expats.  That is why Caymanian culture is the culture of a small bit of time for a small group of different  people from differnet cultures all trying to get along.  So anyone who calls himself a true native Caymanian is someone running from his families past.  Native Caymanian where is your real home.  Native Caymanian you are just a mean boy who has nothing but what his father has left you.

        • so anonymous says:

          So in your own words as a been there native Caymanian What the hell happened?  Just wondering who you will blame.

        • Anonymous says:

          "We are humble people full of grace and humility…"

          I like most of your post; however, this line begs a comment.  Humble people full of grace and humility don't normally go around saying so…being humble and all.

           

          Caymanians are, by and large, wonderful people, but their personalities vary as much as those of any other nationality in the world.  I know lots who are humble, quiet and unassuming, and just as many who are quite the opposite.  As, I'm sure, do you…

          • Anonymous says:

            The thumbs-down poster apparently believes that every single Caymanian alive is quiet, humble and unassuming.  Really?

        • Just Commentin' says:

          While I agree in substance with the tenor of your posting, where you hit the "fail" button is in everything surrounding your use of the terms "We Native Caymanians" and "Real Caymanians". What the hell is a "Real Caymanian" anyway? Please explain. (And why the use of capital letters for the term as if it was some sort of God-ordained distinction?)

           

          I just dropped my pants and turned and looked in the mirror. Damn! Imagine my shock that I did not see a stamp on my butt saying "Certified Real Caymanian"!  Do you know where I can get one, too, so I can join the "Real Caymanian" bandwagon? On second thought, I will pass on the cheek stamp as everyone on that bandwagon also has a problem finding hats that fit.

          Humility? Oh yeah, right! This "Real Caymanian" tripe smells of ego and baseless pride to moi – always has, always will.

          Lest we get the idea that Caymanians and Caymanians alone made this country what it is today; please bear in mind that, yeah, we did a lot of the labour, but who provided the money? One hand don't clap, Bobo!

          Whether or not you and other "Real Caymanians" like to admit to this truth, we need the expats a hell of a lot more than the expats need us – always have, always will.

          Spewing terms like "Real Caymanians" only promotes  the idea that all Caymanians have the attitude that our stit don't shink, no matter how many flies are buzzing around our heads – which is pretty much how we do collectively portray ourselves as a society.  But guess what? We are sinking in it  – and still trying to blame our woes on everyone else.

          Wake up and smell the…. uhh….coffee, or…, whatever!

    • Anonymous says:

      I am a Caymanian and I agree that not all candidates that reply for the jobs that I advertise for are suited for the post.  That is why you have an interview process.

      Yes, we need to pull up our socks on the mindset of work demeanor responsibilities. What you have to remember is that you will not have here what you had where you came from. There must be a reason you have come here to work and live and that means that there were probably some things that you disliked about where you were from.

      Learn to take what you have now and try to see how you can fit in and make something out of it. Stop trying to change everything that you don't agree with to be like where you came from.

      There are ways to improve things everywhere you go. The trick is to get people to improve their own situation without them realizing what they are doing. No one likes to be told they are stupid or lazy. You will not get anywhere with that type of attitude.

      • Just Commentin' says:

        "The trick is to get people to improve their own situation without them realizing what they are doing."  Huh??? You are joking, right?

         

        For the record: I never have called any of my employess stupid or lazy – I always wait until after I fire them to do that.

    • Anonymous says:

      11:05 – Cut your crap and go elsewhere with your rubbish.  You certainly will interview a lot of people, and if you are the person who is on the roll-over, or if you still wants the person for the person who is on the roll-over you  are definately not going to hire Caymanians.  Don't forget you are not the only one here in hiring position.  This happens in every office in Cayman, It happens most of all in the government system.  A lot of Caymanian have been kicked aside because of likes and dislike by employees.  It is not  a level playing field here. 

      In officies you see jobs advertised internally — when you enquire – Oh! its to accomodate Mr. So & So work permit – what a mockery.   Come on tell the world the truth and stop making Caymanians look bad. I am a born Caymanian, stili holding my job in the financial industry for almost 40 years – don't you think I know how this business is run? Talk to someone who would belive your crap.

      Certainly, those thumbs up are your expats cronnies.

      • Anonymous says:

        Your bitterness has obviously clouded your ability to think objectively. What the poster commented on happens every day on this island, I have seen it so many times as have my friends, Caymanian and expat alike.There is no conspirarcy theory it is fact. The sooner that you an come to realise this the sooner you can start fixing the problem. Also please do not imply that you are speaking for all caymanians – you are not!

      • The Lover in Lycra says:

        Dear 15:10. Firstly, I thought I'd give you a name to reply to. 11:05 is just so impersonal, don't you think?

        "Cut my crap and go elsewhere with my rubbish". Charming. Anyway I am leaving Cayman shortly. I am sick at attitudes like yours, although I recognise that there are some wonderful Caymanian people and that voices like yours are becoming more and more faint. I try not to classify people by where they were born, or which piece of paper they hold when they travel. I prefer to judge people by their apparent virtues and respect those I feel deserve my respect, or better still, that I admire and look up to. Respect begets respect, doesn't it? Shouldn't it? Try it. I am trying it here with a bit of restrained comment on your post. I usually swear a lot more.

        Part of the reason I am leaving is that I have a lot more to offer society than I feel I can in Cayman, so I'm off. You win. However, my landlord looses. Mr. Merren of Hurleys Group looses, as do the owners of Kirks and the Fosters family.  The garage that repairs my crap car looses (an aweful lot). The government that collects work permit fees and plenty of other fees loose. Government employees loose because less of my employer's and my money will be paid to government. The Caymanians I help organise awesome once-in-a-lifetime events for loose.  In short, you loose. You just haven't realised that yet. I hope you start to think for yourself soon. Calmly think.  Breathe, think. In. Out. That's they way. Relax. Think. Don't panic, you'll get bettter at it. (sorry for the sarcasm, it's a flaw of mine. I'm working on that now I've got the swearing under control).

        I am afriad I don't understand part of your reply, because it difficult to read due to bad grammar and appears to be incoherant ranting. I didn't care who was hired. I would have recommended whoever was the best for the position, because I had to work directly with them, day in and day out. I just wanted someone who would turn up, could do the job and that I could get along with. Anyway I was only making recommendations for my Caymanian boss, who made the hiring and firing decsions. The other points I made are just facts – people not turning up, hair-dressers applying for a job as a receptionist who was expected to do our day to day book-keeping on an accounting package.

        Also, regarging your cronyism comment. I feel that there is a changing tide of public sentiment in Cayman. More and more Caymanians identifying themselves on forums like CNS and doing as I hoped they would and starting to calmly think for themselves, not just espousing entrenched jingoistic, xenophobic rhetoric nonsense that they have heard preached to them over the years.

        Best wishes,

        The Lycra Lover

        PS Cheer up a bit.  You sound like you could do with a bit more fun in your life. Maybe get a small furry pet as a companion.

        • Just Commentin' says:

          We talkin' about a native "True Caymanian" furry pet? Or are you referring to one of them smart-ass know-it-all expat imported ones come here to displace and take over from the True Born Certified Native Gen-yoo-wine "I am here to stay, you are here to go" I-am-a-real-born-Caymanian-and-don't-foget-it-thank-you-very-much furry critters, who, of course, are better than allother furry critters?

           

          Sarcasm is not your "flaw"; L.L., it's your virtue!

           

          Gee, L.L.,  are we related? Nah. Nobody with "real Caymanian blood" running in their veins is sarcastic (nor do we have any other flaws). In my case, I am never "sarcastic", I'm just a bit "pointed" sometime.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Locals to get reserve jobs….What’s new!!

    • James says:

      locals should come first but only if they are qualified and are deamed by the emplyer to be the right person. What employer would not want to hire a hard working, honest Caymanian, no paperwork and can start the next day, problem is there are not enough of these persons in Cayman.

  13. Anonymous says:

    "when business owners are giving the opportunity of hiring a young Caymanain with no experience versus a cheaper alternative from elsewhere with experience, they always hire the cheaper alternative, despite the permit fees". Of COURSE they do, that's why they're still in business.  The way to address that is to make the Caymanian employee the better alternative, not to force the employer to make the more costly choice, thereby making the entire Cayman economy less competitive.  In the long run this will make everybody worse off.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Please get that list out fast.  Business owners need to know if they will have a chance to actually survive much less prosper before they put too much of their life into a business that has very little chance.  The people on work permits actually doing tose jobs need some lead time to get their affairs in order and find jobs in places that they are wanted.  thank you.

  15. Anonymous says:

    Locals will be limited to jobs that don't migrate to the new special economic zone or off the islands entirely. No work permits required in SEZ so therefore this new rule will not apply there. Banks, law firms, accounting firms, trust companies, fund managers etc will all move to the SEZ as most of their business is done with offshore clients or it could be arranged that way. In South Africa it was called apartied.

  16. Anonymous says:

    If this is done correctly it might be ok. What if the much discussed trade schools were set up to fill the jobs being discussed as Caymanian only.  So rather than just putting in new legislation and expecting businesses to pick up the pieces plan a transition.

    Sure designate what jobs you want to fill, ensure there's an education path to prepare the youth into those roles and don't just leave it up to business to do the educating or you will end up restricting growth or killing the business and end up with an unskilled population with no work again.

    It's not a quick re-election ploy, it will take time, effort, work and a long term strategy to get it working. You may end up with Caymanians with a trade and a job rather than what you are lining up for kids of a default job – I don't need to work at school if all else fails I can just become a…..whatever job is set aside.

     

    • Anonymous says:

      If a full time comprehensive course trade school was in place then you wouldn't need to reserve the vocation because the local work force would be well trained and competitive.

      Reserving vocations to block competition is guaranteed to lower the standard.

      The Taxi services on island are unreliable because its a reserved occupation. The need to compete is absent and therefore the service is second rate.

      Reserving occupations is a bad idea. This kind of economic control theory went out of style in the sixties and seventies in laissez faire economies. The Soviet Union held on to it a little longer and look where it got them.

      The Chinese might be coming out of the doldrums fast but their average income per head is only 16% of the average US employee.

      • Anonymous says:

        Seems like Bermuda is still holding on to their reserved occupations for Bermudians and they seem to be doing very well with it.  Contrary to what some people might want Caymanians to believe Bermuda enjoys a very high standard of living and their financial and tourism industries are doing very well right on par with Cayman or maybe slightly better.

  17. Anonymous says:

    This has NOTHING to do with jobs for locals, it is just B.S. to get VOTES!!!

     

  18. Anonymous says:

    There are many Caymanians working because they have taken the time to educate themselves and or find a job they can do, just like anywhere in the world, Cayman is not special in that regard. There are many Caymanians that are not working because they didn't take the time to educate themselves and or find a job they can do. An employer wants to find the best person for the job, not any person, the BEST. So why should he have to settle for a local just because they are Caymanian.

    If I were one of these desperate Caymanian's that I keep hearing about, I would be working in a supermarket packing shelves, fast food cleaning or maintenance, gardening, the list goes on and on, none of these jobsare highly skilled and with a small amount or training could be mastered in a few days. SO the real question is why are their so few Caymanians doing these jobs?

    The system should be that when I Caymanian gets a job a file should be opened on them and a record kept, if they leave that job in a very short period of time a black mark is put against them, if they do it again and again it will be very clear that it's not the system of jobs that is at fault but the person.

    Instead of giving ten million dollars to the churches, a trade schools should have been opened, teach Caymanians. Electricians, Plumbers, Carpenters, Mechanics, once more the list goes on..

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree with much of what you say. However, in the interests of accuracy and fairness I should point out that according to the CNS and Compass reports the churches received contributions of some $4.1 million rather than "ten million dollars" (see link below). Also, in fairness, I understand that, at least in some cases, these represented the government's share in a joint venture between the church and the govt. whereby the church will provide something for public purposes – something that in the U.S. is knownas faith-based partnerships or initiatives. I think "giving" to the churches is a little misleading in that context. Yes, I know I will get lots of thumbs down for correcting this but I have broad shoulders. Let's keep our criticisms factual.  

      http://centos6-httpd22-php56-mysql55.installer.magneticone.com/o_belozerov/31115drupal622/politics/2011/08/05/churches-get-4m-public-cash

      • Anonymous says:

        You need to go read up on a concept called "seperation of powers". Its in law 101, economics 101, business 101 etc etc.

         

      • Anonymous says:

        And secondly, $4.1 million did not belong to McKeeva to give to whichever church he saw fit.

        It s our money! The only people that will benefit from these so called "public purposes" will be the constituents of those churches.

        Politics and Religion should not mix PERIOD.

      • Just Commentin' says:

        Ok, since we are setting the record straight, here is the straight dope on Faith Based Partnerships as it related to the U.S. government granting funding to church groups:

        In the U.S government faith-based and community partnership programme, the funds granted by government may not be used for any "religious" purposes (such as religious teaching or anything that is worship related). Moreover, the programmes or services to which the funding is applied must be separate in venue or scheduling from any and all religious activities and/or services such as worship, prayer, religious instruction, witnessing, or any other religious activity. Nor may the programmes include any form of proselytising, nor can the programmes exist only for "church members" or "christians".

        Bush himself said that giving "…the $4.1 million to about 19 churches from West Bay to Cayman Brac had allowed them to complete and extend facilities, to augment outreach work and services". His wording leaves me with little doubt that the funds are being put to substantially religious purposes in so-called "christian" churches.

        There is no religious or sexual discrimination in the U.S.. programmes: grant money has gone to Jewish, Hindu, and Muslim programmmes, even pro-gay ones. Indeed, theAdvisory Council for the federal faith-based initive has among its members a Jew, a Muslim, and a gay activist. BTW: I wonder if any of the money Bush gave away went to the Muslim group aspiring to build a mosque in Grand Cayman? If not, why not? Is not their group "faith-based"?

        The U.S. government grants are awarded on a quite fair and competitive basis which includes a stringent vetting and screening process. Public money is not given out on an ad hocbasis at the discretion of one vote-greedy buffoon. The process is public and is quite transparent. Furthermore, there exists strict guidelines on how the grants are distributed and to what purposes they may be used, including checks on value-for-dollar and efficiency assessments of the programmes that are granted funding.

        In all fairness, you are mixing apples and oranges to compare Big Mac's church slush funding with the programmes funded through the U.S. government faith based partnership programmes. Other than the fact that government money and churches are involved there is little similarity.

        Let's keep our comparisons real.

  19. Anonymous says:

    This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard!! I WILL hire  who is best for the job! Trust me I will NOT hire because of Status,color, gender or ANYTHING other than the ability to do the job!

    It will be a long day in hell before I hire anyone because of who they are. I only hire because of what you are!!!!!!

    I can't wait to see how the MLAs are going to run their companies.

    How many security guards could be hired directly by government?? If you want to give jobs to "Caymanians" Mr Backbencher, then I suggest you start at home.

    • Anonymous says:

      On the other hand I think it can be proven over and over again that some of the jobs that these companies are bringing in people to work, can be done by Caymanians. The point is that alot of companies are not even looking at the local employee market first before they bring someone in!! I agree that if you can't find qualified Caymanians to do the job, then and only then should companies be allowed to bring in foreign workers.  Another problem is the connection theory. Where foreigner Y is brought in because he's a long time buddy of Manager X who couldn't care less how many qualified caymanians are out there as long as his buddy gets the job. Companies are also taking a piss out of this 'Key employeestatus'. When you actually look at the job these Key or essential employees are doing……Sure pushing paper around your desk is essential I'm sure a Caymanian couldn't do it, it takes skill to appear to be so busy doing nothing. Caymanians have'nt mastered that skill yet.

    • Anonymous says:

      Politicians should not be on the list this is one job that we would get lots of good expats for.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Cayman is already sinking  fast.

    Why accelerate that progress by  more stupid laws like this one?

  21. James says:

    stupid stupid stupid……….

  22. Anonymous says:

    Businesses are not in the business of training and educating their employees so they can do their jobs!  They are in the business of making money and God forbid we are all forced to hire someone who doesn't want to work the hours, doesn't show up for work, doesn't call in and more commonly, just doesn't do the job!  We don't have the time nor should we have to hire someone just because of birthright. First of all, they have to show up for the interview or do we even have to do that?  It's coming to the point where if you have a heartbeat and have Caymanian parents, we will hire you – why?  Because we have to!!!  We know you won't show up the first day or if you do, you'll be late sportin' a cocky attitude.  Our business has now turned into a babysitting/kindergarden class.  Thanks so much for this government.  We'll be leaving soon thanks to you.  We wish you all the luck and Gods graces cause you're sure as hell going to need them.  

    • Anonymous says:

      Because everyone who leaves High School/College/University has at least 5 years experience right? Give me a break…how do you expect any educated person to get a job after school if all employers are looking for 5+ years experience?? If that's the case, no one coming out of school will have a job untill those already with the experience are dead and gone.. Then what? A total work force of greenhorns…is that what employers want? How do you expect anyone to attain those 5+ years of experience if they cannot get a job?

      If a Caymanian is qualified and is willing to work, give them the job first. If there is a void in the work force, then and only then should outside help be sought out. All the time ads for jobs are in the paper for both entry level and higher level jobs and employers "want" a Caymanian with 10 years experience. The only reason they say they need 10 years experience is because they dont actually want the Caymanian, but they wat to renew the permit for their existing employee, but are required to seek out a Caymanian first. And there is a law against doing so, so this new law is not needed, however, this law is not enforced as it should be. The Labour Board is worthless…most of government is as well as a matter of fact. Thumb it down if you want, but I speak from experience. For a whole year after coming back here from school I looked for a job relentlessly with out success. I still do not have a job in my desired proffession but I have taken work where I can find it.

      Dont ever let a foreigner or anyone else let you think that there are not ambitious Caymanians out there who want to do better for themselves. Screw those that come to a country looking for opportunity and then slander an entire race for lack of knowledge.

  23. The lone Haranguer says:

    Stop complicating things, we need to simplify not complicate these things. The goverment is injecting doubts into business people minds and that always leads to inaction.

    Work permit fees give every Caymanian an advantage over any foreigner who applies for a job. Leave it that way!

  24. Anonymous says:

    This is nothing new.

    For years immigration has been operating a 'Caymanians only' policy on certain jobs and a quota system on specific nationalities.

     

  25. Anonymous says:

    Business owners also hire the expat because they can control them and boss them around more than a Caymanian.  Business owners have been spoiled for too many years and now things have changed, every year there are a 1000 kids coming out of high school who need entry level jobs, and who will do the entry level jobs.  They are a new generation of Caymanians the majority of whom have at least one parent in an entry level job or unemployed.  If Government puts their foot down the businesses won't close they will adapt just like they used too.  Furthermore the stars of the entry level jobs who don't quit or get fired can be trained by the expat workers in the management levels and eventually take those jobs.  We need to start cultivating a Caymanian workforce and giving young people something to look forward to when they leave school. Not everyone is going to be a professional, and there is nothing wrong with that, there are many good careers to be had in tourism and the service industry.    You know what the worse part is though?  Government cannot AFFORD to look out for the Caymanians and push for them to get the entry level jobs.  Unfortunately Government needs the work permit fee income for all those bartenders and front desk clerks and busboys and servers and administrative clerks and retail clerks.  It is a vicious cycle and I don't know what the answer is but I eo know that thousands of unemployed youths coming out of high school every year is a big, big problem.  There is NO reason why they can't work in entry level positions in the jewellery stores, the supermarkets, the hotels, the restaurants…..

  26. Anonymous says:

    An excellent idea.  I would also very much like to see all tourism and hotel industry jobs reserved for Caymanians only.  We have a whole new generation of Caymanians coming out of the high schools, many of whom have an expat parent who came here in the service industry, the days of those jobs being 'beneath' a Caymanian are long gone.  These days young Caymanians are seeing parents who are struggling in the recession to make ends meet, the sense of "entitlement" that may have plagued young Caymanians in the past is receding and they want to work to help themselves and their parents. I have met many, many young Caymanians who are ready willing and able to work as front desk clerks in hotels, doormen, servers, bartenders, and all they need is a chance to be trained but they never get the job it always goes to an expat.   Hotels and restaurants do not have to worry about the pay, the young people would gladly work for $5/hour plus tips.  If their attitude or punctuality fall behind, believe me there will be another one right behind them for the job.  It is immensely frustrating to me that I see no Caymanians working in tourism or the restaurant industry.   I can't tell you the number of foreigners visiting here who have asked me where the Caymanians are, and why haven't they met a Caymanian in a hotel or a restaurant who can enlighten them about Cayman?  Only certain restaurants in West Bay seem to have Caymanian employees and some of the smaller hotels.  The Ritz has employees with badges that say where the employee is from I challenge you to go to the Ritz on any given day and find even 5 employees with a badge that says "Cayman Islands".  Heck find some that even speak proper English!   The Government needs to ignore the hotels and other service industries when they kick and scream that it won't work if they hire Caymanians only, it will work and they need to be forced to get with the program, even a 50% rule would help- they can have 20 work permits if they have 20 Caymanians.  In the US, UK and Canada, hotel, restaurant and supermarkets and retail are training grounds for high school graduates and college students, people from there are used to seeing young people in those jobs and its no problem that those roles have a high turnover, fresh attitudes and enthusiasm are always welcome.  Cayman has GOT to start protecting its own the economic changes have devastating consequences – look at the robberies and gang violence and rising unemployment in our youth.

    • Anonymous says:

      And what world are in, may i ask??

    • Jackson5 says:

      I remember when the Ritz held a job fair for 50 positions they had vacant – 3 Caymanians turned up!!! How do you explain that in the context of your arguement!! 

    • Anonymous says:

      Great idea!  Kick out all the expat skill on the island and replace it with Caymanian skill.  Obviously Some Caymanians still need to learn the hard way why this is not working already and never will.  But if you could do that it would certainly show even the most fool fool among you (OK maybe not all of them) that pride goeth before the fall.  Unfortunatly it would also close most of the businesses on the island.

      Do you not yet understand that most of the islands businesses are owned and run by Caymanians?  Or that most of the hireing is done by Caymanains?  Maybe you should be asking them why THEY are not hireing "only" Caymanians and listen to their honest answers.  

      Or not.

    • P.A.Rody says:

      Your Ritz analagy is very telling, the Ritz does have more than 5 Caymanian employees, but I agree the problem is trying to find them, even the Ritz has trouble tracking them down!

       

      • They says:

        They are probably at your mammas house

      • Anonymous says:

        the Ritz analogy also raises another point: every developer like Shetty gets concessions on the promise of "thousands of jobs for Caymanians" but like the Ritz…in reality, very few Caymanians end up being employed on the developments.

        This Shetty BS deal, the CEC Special Economic Zone, the Chinese port, Dart deals etc – all promise so many jobs that never come to friuition.

        Government is always gullible and falls for that crap — or is it us that gullible and believe it?

         

    • Anonymous says:

      Try to put and add in the paper for caymanians to work in the restaurant industry if you are lucky you will get one person in a two week period (and that person wont be able to work on weekends) you have no idea what you are talking about!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      "In the US, UK and Canada, hotel, restaurant and supermarkets and retail are training grounds for high school graduates and college students, people from there are used to seeing young people in those jobs and its no problem that those roles have a high turnover, fresh attitudes and enthusiasm are always welcome."

       

      This is very true and in fact, my own family is a case in point.  My father worked as a produce manager in a grocery store while putting himself through university — and he worked his way up to THAT job by packing and carrying groceries for years during high school. 

      However, I fail to see what is keeping young Caymanian high school graduates and college students from holding these jobs.  If they are willing to accept the low pay (and the salaries for such jobs are low in the countries you name, too) then they have every chance of getting jobs like these.  As you say, they are good stepping stones to other positions.  

  27. trends says:

    Caymanian only….I like to see what is on this list…..hardware clerk and other things we can't feed our family on…Oh I got it seaman..that's a good one….spend money on education double that budget  and the jobs will take care of themselves with a touch of help…i.e. not giving away PR to more people then we have WP (that will put you in trouble_)…news flash..when the current 6,000left you would have 6,000 to replace..if you haven't noticed lots of unemployed in US and Euroland

    Just talk to industry keep a few keys and tell them if they ship jobs off to Canada we will impose greater fees.  Don't let them fool you..they are making money evading US and eurotaxes and can afford to pay a few grand more..despite all they say..they are not really going to move..where would they go???? Bermuda more expensive…BVI??? I don't think so Not a lot of options this side of the world that don't have greater political risk etc

  28. Anonymous says:

    For first things there are many Caymanians that have top level jobs. These are the Lawyers, Business owners, Pilots, Bankers, Contractors etc. They worked and got it done. Being a Caymanian is not a degree nor does it make a person fit to do a job. If even for the lower paying jobs you made it that a Caymanian has to hold the post or cap the permits in that field it will spell trouble as there are far more jobs out there then locals and you are not holding a person to a fair competitive job arena – in other words if you know that once hired it is hard to get fired as the work pool is small then it is common sense the power the employee has. There is for sure abuse now but the folks screaming for the most part that cannot get a job are normally not a true suitable candidate for the job in the first place. Plain and simple. This will strangle the economy when looking for innovative ideas to stimulate it and bring back some prosperity. You need to protect your land and people but not by isolation.

  29. Anonymous says:

    keep up the good work Minister Anglin, if the ever-so-entitled foreigners having an issue don't like it I dare them to leave, this outright sense of entitlement by foreign workers needs to end. how about the work permit holders doing their jobs quietly and leave immigration and labour laws and regulations  FOR THE CAYMANIAN PEOPLE TO DECIDE, HAVING A WORK PERMIT DOES'NT ENTITLE YOU TO TELL OUR LEADERS WHAT TO DO.

     

    Do you really believe I can move to Canada, Jamaica, Australia etc…bring about 300 of my Caymanian friends then tell the Prime Minister/Premier and government that their laws MUDT be changed because 'my friends and I don't like these laws since they may affect our plans?'

    give me a break….just be fair, if you can't leave these issues to the people whose futures will be affected to have the say!

    • Anonymous says:

      Sad comments which talk about ex-pat entitlement.  You clearly have no clue and instead show that you yourself have a sense of entitlement.  The world has evolved from the old days where all there waswas a small local population who fished to live and a small local tourism industry.  Educate yourselves and you will get the jobs.  The local sense of entitlement and laziness is beyond a joke.  Yes, there are some that are prepared to work for it, but to expect to have an advantage over experienced ex-pats with years of experience is nothing short of stupidity.  The Cayman Islands government has created the financial services industry and tourism industry for which experienced people are needed.  Get off your backsides andstart in the entry level positions or go to university and train for something.  Then compete for the positions like everyone else.  GROW UP!

    • Anonymous says:

      "Do you really believe I can move to Canada, Jamaica, Australia etc…bring about 300 of my Caymanian friends then tell the Prime Minister/Premier and government that their laws MUDT  [sic] be changed because 'my friends and I don't like these laws since they may affect our plans?''

       

      Well, no, because the economies of the countries you name are not dependent upon Caymanians.  Your economy is quite different.

      But also, yes, because the laws of the countries you name have, in fact, been influenced in many ways by the immigrant communities within them…mostly because they are allowed to vote.  

       

      On the other hand, I do agree that Caymanians (and other residents who have been granted status here) should have "the say" in determining the laws of the land.  And they do have the say…work permit holders cannot tell your government what to do.  Or, they can, but your government is under no obligation to listen, unless they (and by extension, you) stand to lose something worthwhile by failing to do so.

    • Anonymous says:

      Your poor English explains why so many of your Countrymen cannot work in my field.

    • Anonymous says:

      AMEN!!

  30. Anonymous says:

    50 YEARS LATE.

    After importing America recism discrimination,

    only in Cayman can Caymanian be phase out and turn to SLAVES

     

  31. Anonymous says:

    This is more stupid that the rollover. It will be interesting to see which postions they wish to preserve for "Caymanians Only". In the Brac that would be a laugh – as apart from school leavers who have no experience whatsoever and a few unemployables or dont wanna workables there is no unemployment (caymanian businesses in the brac who cannot get a job is not unemployment as the owners of these companies are not doing the work but their work permit staff). What a joke this is going to be.

  32. Anonymous says:

    EPIC FAIL….CAN WE ROLLOVER THE GOVERNMENT?  PARTICULARLY THOSE FROM WEST BAY?

  33. Anonymous says:

    Nobody wants to deal with the elephant in the room, there are a number of reasons why Caymanian business owners avoid hiring Caymanians, some legitimate others illegitimate. An expatriate on a work permit is far less likely to complain, demand proper treatment under the law and have access to any sort of remedy to employer related problems. The work permit system in its current form has the opposite effect to what its supposed prupose is. It is a very complex problem but good luck trying to force any of the powerful business owners into hring Caymanians, they are just not as easy to deal with. That's why no attempt hase been made to train any over the past thirty years and that's why this proposal will have so many exemptions. Hopefully people will see what this proposal is, pie in the sky, manna for the masses, another empty promise. Time for a new government.

  34. Anonymous says:

    hahahaaha……. reserving jobs for caymaninas who will not take them………another day wonderland!!!!!………………zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  35. Anonymous says:

    That's how Russia and China used to do it before they woke up to reality. Good luck I guess.

  36. Anonymous says:

    Good move Rollie. 

    Just waiting  to see now which categories will be saved for us, which I hope will be reasonable, because this is one factor that is causing the crime surge.

    Caymanians are out of work in their own country because of poor government policies over the years.

    • Anonymous says:

      Caymanians are out of work cause they dont want to WORK!!!!!!!!! I am a born Caymanian i had choices growing up and i picked the right path!!!! Its a choice and  its not all the governments problem….

      • Mamau says:

        Agree – as Caymanians we are always trying to blame someone else for our own failings, rather then taking personal responsibility. The many successful Caymanians are evidence that if you put in hard work good things come – the problem is now that all Caymanians want this success but do not want to put in the work to achieve it – they want it on a platter – our forefathers would be rolling in their graves to see this.

      • Anonymous says:

        THANK YOU!! Why aren't you premier?!!?

      • Anonymous says:

        Thank you!! From one Caymanian to another, thank you. I am at a global company of roughly 60 persons. Aside from myself there are two other Caymanians who are NOT administrative staff.  Only 6 other Caymanians work in the office and they are all close to 50 years old and remain admins after 10+ years with the company. I overheard one of my superiors claim that Caymanians are dedicated and loyal to their jobs but have no desire to better themselves, which hurt to hear but is true. Many of them have been offered schooling in order to receive promotions and they have refused! Give up the ignorance and the deserving attitude and pick up a book.

        To the expats – you're some of my best friends, in and outside of the office, and i am grateful for your contribution to our backward society, but as a young Caymanian who HAS made all of the right decisions I am offended by some of the comments posted.  While there is a reason to develop the stereotype of the Caymanian mentality, those of us trying desperately hard to make changes are still young and figuring out how to deal with the extremely rapid changes our country has faced in the past 3decades.  We'll make it there, but such harsh comments only intimidate those of us who are still trying to make it on our own, while cheating the system we've been held down by. 

        Our economy was exlpoding and self-sustaining for decades, thanks only to outside influence, of course and our foolish government really never had any responsibilty or accountabilty in the past so our community did not realise such a drastic need for change until the global economic problems swung the basket cap on the dirty laundry wide open…..and then the crime came. Believe me, there are Caymanians who are embarrassed by our government, by OUR ignorance and even by some family members.  But isn't this the case for any nation to some extent? We are tiny and are so dependent on each other.  We are also completely dependent on the investments from other nations to keep our economy running and it scares a lot of people to think, 'we need help so badly that the Caymanian population makes up less than half of the nation." Please understand how it is difficult to some (and remember: they're not as educated or exposed to other societies) who feel like they're losing our country.

        Like many countries, we are still developing.  My father, in his 60's, was one of less than 10,000 inhabitants on-island, which proves how young a nation we are. He was a part of a generation (ONE generation ago) who had to do manual labor, out of necessity not choice.  Because financial institutions, zero crime rate (not too long ago) and our high standard of living has put us on the map, does not mean we are not vulnerable to the problems other developing countries face and it does not mean we can rank ourselves among the nations from which most of our residents come from, so please do not let your judgments reflect expectations of anything more.

        I am a 26 year old Caymanian with an MBA and a CPA and to everyone reading, be patient…the next generation is coming and I promise, there is PROMISE here.

    • Anonymous says:

      "Just waiting  to see now which categories will be saved for us"

       

      BACKHOE OPERATORS….

  37. Anonymous says:

     

    To 9/26/2011 (20:14)

    I have to wonder what's my people problem. If the UDP do something to protect us you guys call FOUL. If they do nothing, you guys still call FOUL.

    I have copied your statement because you have not counted the many Caymanians that are mechanics in our island.  I can count 10. However, all of them are self employed and good for them. What do you mean you cannot find a Caymanian to work on your car? You are not looking hard enough to support us as Caymanians. I only use Caymanians to repair my car. One out of the 10, at his business place.  And yes, he has other nationals that work for him. But guess what? He is a Caymanian mechanic. Was it the UDP that closed the mechanic class at the high school 30 yrs ago? And in regards to your family member that did not come back to clean your yard, was it the UDP that supplied his friends with drugs? Come on now, please be real. Help fix the problems with our people and stop complaining. Your argument BELOW which I have copied  is moot and serve no purpose. Get a few young people and teach them how to fix cars and maintain yards and then report back to us.

    I also look forward to only Caymanians in the automobile body work and maintenance industries. In over 30 years with various firms, I have NEVER had a Caymanian work on my car. Clearly, they are being discriminated against! The High School had an auto mechanics class for students 30 yearsago. It had to be stopped because parents said their kids were not going to be mechanics , they were going to work in the banks.
    Similarly, I have never had a Caymanian maintain my yard (other than a family member of mine who worked for a few hours and disappeared-didn't even come back for the hour or two he had earned money for since his druggy friends took care of him).
     

  38. Adam Smith says:

    This will be a very inflationary change to the law and will increase the cost of living and the costs of doing business here by creating a false market for these jobs through drastic reductions on the supply side.

  39. Anonymous says:

    Whoever you are, you insult Caymanians. I suggest you move on to greener pastures since it is so bad here.

  40. Anonymous says:

    This is a terrible idea which more or less amounts to discrimination. Wouldn’t it be better for Immigration to follow the rules and require employers to place proper adverts (with true salaries)?

  41. Anonymous says:

    Incorrect.  Theres only one "job" for Caymaians:  Civil servant!

  42. Anonymous says:

    Wow!  What a scatter-brained piece of legislation.  Why are the negative side-effects of this policy not blatently obvious to ministers?  What impression will this give?  Doctors, accountants, lawyers, legal assistants, dentists, nurses, bankers fully or patialy belong solely to Caymanians?  WHAT?  Caymanians are not capable of those jobs?  Furthermore, this type of positive discrimination helps nobody.  It simply reinforces the entitlement mentality that disuades young Caymanians from becoming competitive in the job market.  There's so many better ways to get yong Caymanians into work.  For example:  Make business licenses for companies that employ over twenty staff dependant on the company running an apprentership scheme for school leavers.

  43. Anonymous says:

    Jesus wept! They've got their back hoes up their ass. Considerable heavy equipment work has been done around my area recently. Every single one of the operators (ie drivers) was Jamaican but all three owners of the different companies were Caymanians. I look forward to them being told they have to hire Caymanians to drive their vehicles (which of course I support). But why were they not hiring them in the first place?

    I also look forward to only Caymanians in the automobile body work and maintenance industries. In over 30 years with various firms, I have NEVER had a Caymanian work on my car. Clearly, they are being discriminated against! The High School had an auto mechanics class for students 30 yearsago. It had to be stopped because parents said their kids were not going to be mechanics , they were going to work in the banks.

    Similarly, I have never had a Caymanian maintain my yard (other than a family member of mine who worked for a few hours and disappeared-didn't even come back for the hour or two he had earned money for since his druggy friends took care of him).

    Mr Anglin, we recognise politricks when we see it.

  44. Oops there it is . . says:

    This will seriously disincentivise new investment because once there is a list then lists can change.

  45. Anonymous says:

    Businesses are in the business of making money, not social welfare bodies. If govt. Makes our cost of doing business too high, then we will leave.

    • Anonymous says:

      Leave or fail?

    • And... says:

      And…? Where will you go? amd how is it that hiring a Caymanian is mor eexpensive that hiring an expat on a work permit? The minimum wage will prevent you exploiting cheap labour sources!

      You really revealed yourself to us with this post!

  46. Freedom Man says:

    Here is the list of jobs for Caymanian's Only:

    1. Garbage Collectors

    2. Nannies/Helpers

    3. Roofers

    4. Sewage Treatment

    5. Lawn Care / Lawn Maintenance

    6. Rickshaw Drivers

     

    Lets see how long we last doing these "Caymanian" jobs!

    • Anonymous says:

      I would not be surprised to find Civil Servants on that list.  As I've said numerous times before:  the ethnic cleansing of the Civil Service has begun.  Expats are being sent packing and Caymanians hired in their places.

    • Anonymous says:

      time for a little PMA my friend

    • Anonymous says:

      I think that would be too taxing for most caymanians.

       

    • anonymous says:

      lets keep this list going….

       

      Airline pilots

      Aircraft handlers

      architects

      Book store employees

      Band members

      bank tellers

      bank managers

      coffee shop servers

      doctors

      nurses

      nurses aids

      Hairdressers

      teachers

      road workers

      engineers

      plumbers

      electricians

      sign makers

      ……

       

      If we are going to protect Caymanian only jobs then by god, lets really protect Caymanian only jobs…

       

  47. Anonymous says:

    When you say CAYMANIANS do you mean Country of orign ? Those Caymanians seem to be the ones that cannot get jobs. Just look at this for example, if you train to be a nurse then you should qualify for a job as a nurse and if you get decide that you do n ot want to work as a nurse any longer then you should not be given a job working in the hospital office. They are jobs that Caymanians are hungrying or a good ole Caymanian word DRULING FOR. Now please dont say that its not happening . If you come here as a nurse then you should work as a nurse. Thats why the real Caymanian cant get jobs. So sorry if you dont like my dessert today.

  48. Anonymous says:

    LOL!!  What a joke!  And what specific jobs will be set aside??  I guarantee you that these job titles will soon disappear and replaced with new ones!

  49. Anony Mous says:

    Good Bye new business!!!

  50. Anonymous says:

    This is even more stupid than the roll over was. As a business owner i find it amazing that now the government will handicap my company’s growth if no Caymanian comes forward. Just stupid…

    Follow the existing laws and things will be fine…I agree too easy to get permits and no follow up by immigration but this??. All this will achieve is a lowering of output quality and businesses having to close. Simple.

    Who dreams up this stuff anyhow? Playing to the next election votes – plain as day.

    Mr Rolston, you educate our people and we will hire them. Your job!! Just Do it!!