Mac pulls out of vote debate

| 28/03/2012

mckeevagt (221x275).jpg(CNS): McKeeva Bush has pulled out of Thursday’s public discussion forum on the topical issue of one man, one vote and will be replaced by Cline Glidden. It is understood that the premier will be in Cuba with the management and board of Cayman Airways on a “retreat” to discuss issues relating to the national flag carrier. The premier was expected to appear at the Harquail Theatre to defend the voting status quo on for the Generation Now roundtable in the face of a concerted campaign for a referendum before the May 2013 election on the issue of single member constituencies.

The trip to Cuba comes on the heels of the premier’s recent travels to Honduras, Panama and Washington and prevents him from taking part in the public forum and defending his decision to maintain multi-member constituencies for the 2013 General Election and to hold the referendum on one man, one vote at the same time.

The premier was to appear alongside the opposition leader Alden McLaughlin and independent member Ezzard Miller, who both support the principle of one man, one vote, and Adrianne Webb, one of the Electoral Boundaries Commission, which noted in its report the problem government would face in connection with George Town and the need to increase seats.

Based on the head count of registered voters and the population growth in Bodden Town, the commission stated in its report that if government was to retain multi-member constituencies, the numbers dictated that two additional seats would be required in the capital and one in Bodden Town. However, it noted this would mean that George Town voters would have six votes and a disproportionate influence on the make-up of the national government.

The obvious inequality that this will create has fuelled the campaign for one man, one vote and has led to the success of the campaign and petition to trigger a people’s referendum on the issue. Miller said Tuesday that the volunteers who are collecting signatures are within a hairs width of securing the 3,800 names of votersneeded to trigger the referendum.

The battle, however, will now be to either persuade the premier to merely implement the new voting method without the need for a national vote or to at least hold the referendum before the May elections as stated on the petition.

UDP back-bencher Cline Glidden will now be defending his boss’s position in the face of dramatically declining support across the country for multi-member constituencies.

Glidden, who is the third elected member for the district of West Bay will, if the voting system is not change before next May, be facing an electorate that for the first time will have less votes than those electors in the capital.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    What’s to debate? His position is clear, he does not support it, 30% of the people do not understand it and don’t care to and 60% don’t want it. This is an issue being pushed by a very small group of people.
    A better debate would be on reinventing caymans economy, what next.

    • Anonymous says:

      Let me explain. In a debate you don't just bellow your position from a bully pulpit amid the cheers of blind supporters, you have to answer questions and explain and support your point of view with actual facts and clear reasoning. There is no surprise that Mac went pulled out in those conditions.


      Every informal poll conducted to date has shown the overwhelming majority of people to be in favour of one man, one vote. Even though many who do support one man one vote have not signed the petition for fear of victimisation from govt. those who have signed the petition already exceed 30% of the entire electorate and rising. You insult the intelligence of Caymanians by suggesting that they would not know how to cast only one vote rather than 2, 3 or 4.  

      Your numbers only represent wishful thinking, not reality.    

  2. Anonymous says:

    I feel a barefoot song coming soon called POPE & PUM PUM 

  3. Anonymous says:

    East End, as small as it is, is a great example why 'One Man One Vote' will result in expensive cash overruns and waste — they have 2 civic centres and 2 post offices in a lil district like East End, only because the Gun Bayers see themselves as being separate from East End.

    Never mind that if it is introduced, there will be SIX MLA offices with staffing etc in different corners of George Town alone!

    — of course, paid for (like the MLA salaries & pensions) by u and I



    • Anonymous says:

      Since Gun Bay is not a single member constituency it doesn't really prove your point at all. Breakers also has its own community centre. Savannah has always had its own primary school and post office. Obviously it has nothing to do with electoral district boundaries but with the fact that they are separate communities.

      The MLA offices thing is nonsense. The only reason the four in WB share offices is because they all belong to the same political party.

      If this is the best you can do then you have totally lost the argument.

  4. Anonymous says:

    It is amazing how badly you people have missed the point.

    Puppet Mac does not need any of you to get re-elected.   He is strongly supported by a gaggle of fools that are not smart enough to realize what a disater and disgrace he has always been.  These idiots say he is a good man because he goes to church (sometimes) and gives away appliances.

    The next referdum needs to be for dismantling of the UDP gang and a life-time ban from politics for Puppet Mac and all of his cohorts.





  5. Anonymous says:

    Cline are you now finish with law school?  Imagine we were paying you all this time to go to law school, when the people elected you to serve. Jeez you UDP people are users boy.

    • Anonymous says:

      You’re jealous he is obtaining an education. Same old Caymanian attitude towards higher learning, from ” educated idiot” to “user”. Sad.

  6. Anonymous says:


    • Anonymous says:

      What you mean cluck, cluck, cluck? I is a UR a UR a URRRRRRRR foryour information.


  7. Anonymous says:

    Either he is on a mission to enter Guiness Book of World Record as the holder of a passport with the most stamp of entries to other countries, or he is scared, or unable to face the music and defend his views on this most important topic.   This is not how a leader of a country is supposed to behave.  Time for better leadership.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Wouldn't it be something if Cline manned upon the night, and did the right thing at the debate – especially when Big Mac and Big Mouth are out of the country….who knows what could happen…….. Wishful thinking I know.

    • Anonymous says:

      Do you think Cline realizes his entire political future / reputation rests on this one night? It is wishful thinking. Its way too much to ask Cline to do the ethical thing. Hopefully voters will see right past him the next time around.

  9. Anonymous says:

    THIS COUNTRY IS BROKE, BUT WE CAN FIND MONEY TO GO TO CUBA TO HAVE A RETREAT ABOUT CAYMAN AIRWAYS.  I know  that we could find somewhere on the islands to do this.  i wonder if he spends his own money as recklessly as he do our money.  crime is on the rise in this country, people  are living in fear, in neighbourhoods, they asked for years for one street to aluminate the area, which will keep the criminals away. but the goverment keeping saying no money to do it.  i will say to people requesting the lights, you will get them just before election next year.  but i will say that you all must not remember when you get these lights when you go to thje pooles, remember how long they made you had fear without the lights

    • Anonymous says:

      i don't believe he has spent a penny of his own money since he took office.

      • Anonymous says:

        He's saving it all up, including his double pensions, in hopes he'll be able to buy his way out of where he's headed.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Uneducated coward. I say we go and get him and ryan put them on ryan's plane and never let them back. The man is not fit to run a warehouse let alone a country…… Get rid of this muppet.

  11. Sinin' Chicken says:

    All together now "Chick, chick, chick, chick-en"

  12. Just Sayin' says:

    A lot of good could come from people pulling out more often around here.

  13. Anonymous says:

    What does the Governor do on a daily basis? He seems awefully quiet with all that is transpiring on our country.

    • Guv @ says:


    • Dreadlock Holmes says:

      What does the Governor do on a daily basis??  He monitors the situation, especially concerning McKeeva and the running of the government.  Make no mistake he is watching. And reporting. XXXXX

  14. Anonymous says:

    Maybe he’s looking into communism.

    Wouldn’t it be cheaper to brainstorm in the brac?

  15. Anonymous says:

    Someone confiscate this mans passport and make him sit down and face the music.


  16. Anonymous says:

    Looks to me like Cline has a to make a decision very quickly!

    A. Alienate McKeeva by standing up for what Cline knows in his heart and sole is right, and therefore increase his chances to be re-elected with the one man/one vote process


    B. Will he continue to be the whipping boy for McKeever and take the chance that if the one man/one vote process comes through he will have ruined his political career once and for all.

    Hmmmmmmmmmm…………Cline, what will it be? Are you fiinally going to be a man and look out for your country and what the people wish for, or do you continue to follow someone else blindly?

    • Anonymous says:

      Yeah Cline, will you forever be made the "fall guy" who does the dirty work (or hard work, depending on how you look at it), and get blamed like the scapegoat when something goes wrong?   What is the one man / one vote petition succeeds, the referendum succeeds, and it is introduced before the next election?  Won't your goose be cooked then, as you will be the one who publicly spoke against it in this debate?  Betta start thinking about yourself and not others, man.  Think about your country and your own political career, not what is best for certain party members. 

  17. Anonymous says:

    Being a "No-Show" on this panel is an insult to every Cayman resident and Voter. People of Cayman, we need to get rid of this kind of irresponsible "representative" and their connected persons.


    You think this is bad – wait until you hear of the latest deficit figures and the plan for the budget next year. He will most likely be in Russia then while Julie delivers the bad news in the LA for him.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Bush pulled out of this very important debate to go on a retreat to Cuba for what?  He could had retreated right here on the Beach or at Cayman Airways Board Room if he wanted to, but that would not be wasting any of the people's money.  He is over in Cuba for other alternative matters like meeting with Hugo Chavez about airline fuels and more or maybe he wanted to meet the Pope (sic), but he could had flown there on a friends private plane or on a personal plane ticket. He did not have to be taking his whole entourage XXXXX and a Cayman Airways plane to waste more money.  This man is a disaster and we need to get him out of office fast.  First Honduras, then Panama, now Cuba, so where is it he is heading next?

  19. Big Whopper says:

    I AM IN SHOCK!…(can you hear the sarcasm in my voice right)….

  20. Anonymous says:

    Several people have written "Coward". But who is the coward here? Mac for running from the debate or Cline for being completely gutless and incapable of standing up for things he knows are right? We know what to expect from Mac. As such, I am almost more ashamed for de-Cline.

  21. Anonymous says:

    If the Governor is responsible for good governance, he should be ashamed of himself.


  22. Anonymous says:

    I see the Governor, but feel like an orphan.



  23. The Magic Dragon says:

    Robberies and un-employment are on the rise, locals are protesting shady deals, and Govt  continues to throw away money , as far as we can see the future holds nothing for the "common" man(apparently our little tech zone will not guarante jobs either….thats what I call development ).

    Meanwhile Bush is drinking a mojito in Cuba, brilliant!

  24. Anonymous says:

    Birds of a feather!   He's probably headed there to get some more pointers on how to govern from his pal Hugo.  It certainly couldn't be to see the Pope, he's already left.  But then again Mac seems to have a habit of being a day late on most things, especially when it comes to running a country.

  25. Dreadlock Holmes says:

    This was a golden opportunity for the premier to state his case clearly but it seems he is uable attend something that implies openeness and an exchange of ideas.  Much more comfortable it would seem with his usual approach.  Making pronouncements and the political arrogance which accompanies them.  Forgetting once again those whom he works for.  Hint:  It isn't Mr. Dart.  And no longer is Mr. Ryan.   Cayman can do much better than this for a leader and no one is surprised he couldn't make it.

    • Anonymous says:

      Not working for Mr. Dart or Mr. Ryan anymore?  Gasp – who could it be then, because itcertainly is not for his country either.  Oh, I just get it – you mean the new chinese employers?  Ha ha, lol – can't believe I was so long on the uptake. 

  26. Anonymous says:

    They goes your beloved leader WB, he’s worse coward and now he has scape goat to do his dirty work, cline there is saying in April fools day (send the fools a little further) I am sorry bro keke tagged you (April 1st Boy) lmao!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Agreed, poor Cine, the scapegoat guy – took the fall for the port and replaced by Helium.  Now being asked to do another distasteful task.   Poster boy for the distasteful tasks.   Why did the premier not send Helium?  He certainly spouts enough nonsense and uses 1000 words to explain something that would take only 1 word.  Surely he would have been the better debater – he would obscure and confuse everybody with his rhetoric and people would leave not sure if he really answered the concerns or not.  Wouldn't he have been a better choice to lead us all around the mulberry bush multiple times with his long answers and confuse the masses?

  27. Anonymous says:

    A "Coward of a Man" who is setting up Cline Glidden who cannot even see he is being set up by his leader. Talk about sheep following each other to the slaughter.

  28. SKEPTICAL says:

    If Bush and his pals are in Cuba brainstorming a new design for the Cayman Airways sick bags, what chance is there of finalizing the CHEC contract before the end of the month.

    • KIrkie Says says:

      And to think that this piece of ship [sic] will be getting a pension when he finally leaves!!

      • Anonymous says:

        What does [sic] mean?

      • Anonymous says:

        I think that you will find that the "ship" is collecting both a big salary and a big gov't pension at the same time thanks to a change in the law a while ago. 

      • Anonymous says:

        I think you will find that due to a change in the law a while ago the "ship" is able to collect a full pension now and a fat salary at the same time.

  29. Will Ya Listen! says:

    He's going to Cuba to borrow some money for a developer who………..


  30. Anonymous says:

    When I think it Can't get any worst. I t does get worst. Reading this article makes me want to cry. Please cry for me Cayman…..

    • Anonymous says:

      OMG he is going to Cuba to do what????? Do you think there is a reason why the US really doesn't want or have anything to do with Cuba????

      • JAhDRead says:

        Yeah we know why stupid Imperialism, rulers of the free World, destroy everything and everyone, take over from Great Britain who one time ruled the waves.  US Political dogma and protection of American Interests , they cannot have their way with Cuba s they do with other countries,therefore they starve the people of Cuba by ceating an embargo, the great humanitarians that they are.  Hail Fidel Hil Fidel.

  31. Anonymous says:

    I am sick and tired of what I see happening.  Mac just runs rough shod over everyone and every process.  I wish the Referendum was for his removal.  However, we the people can ban him and the UDP from every being elected again.  If we had to list the blunders they have made since they've been in power, CNS wouldn't have enough page space.  I hope the next government notes who all those Board member stool pigeons are that UDP has in place and bannish them all to UCCI to get an education and then to DCFS for some counselling.  Bunch of foolish people – spending Cayman's scarce resources partying in Cuba.


  32. Ants Nest says:

    Running from ya from ya licks bwoy !! 🙂

  33. nauticalone says:

    What a Coward!

    No surprise though…as he could not "debate" his way out of a wet paper bag.

    Shout at people at a Political Rally….now that's another story

  34. Anonymous says:

    Wow what a surprise Mac out of town again.  See any frequency in this in time of need ?

  35. Anonymous says:

    Retreat = Full expense paid vacation paid for by the Cayman people Caymanian and resident alike.  I have no doubt that no good will come of this retreat since it is not the first or the last.  There is no accountability at Government or Cayman Airways for that matter.  There is certainly no need for the premier to be there at all.  This is why there is a board of directors appointed, to oversee the running of the business and report to the government.   Where else would you hear of a premier going on a retreat with a board of directors?

  36. Chris says:

    So let me get this straight…..Mac didnt know that he was scheduled to travel for this retreat until today? If he knew of his travel plans earlier why did he commit to debate this national issue only to pull out at the last minute?

    Generation Now, the next debate should be on "How to Stimulate the Local Economy: Less traveling overseas for retreats and negotiations".

    Word has it that these overseas meetings are outside the prying eyes of locals and FOI requests.

    The writing is on the wall; the Caymanian people really want one man one vote and single member constituencies. They have galvanized their support behind the idea of having a more accountable democracy. Mr. Bush realises One Man One Vote must come for the May vote so instead of trying to throw spokes in the wheel and run from the debate, he should do the right thing and change the law to help avoid the expense he claims a November referendum will bring.

    Perhaps his cunning strategy is to spend out all the referendum money on this Cuba trip and then claim we are "too broke" to hold the referendum!

  37. Knot S Smart says:

    Our Govt is using the Mayan calendar.

    They believe that the world will end on Dec 21st 2012, so there is no need to do boring stuff like accounting. or have LA meetings.

    Thats why they are off on another excursion every few days. Partying like there is no tomorrow!

    The truth is that they are really just checking out every crook and cranny of the planet so the party faithful can have a place of refuge.

    Be grateful folks.

    Because what would we do if we did not have Mac and the UDP to take us to safety?


    • Anonymous says:

      The Maya Calendar says nothing of the world "ending". Also, the Maya Calendar is far too advanced for anyone in the present gov to read, let alone use, or even understand.

  38. Anonymous says:

    Who will take me up on my bet that they were going to greet The Pope?

    • Anonymous says:

      You think Puppet Mac would be willing to confess and ask for forgiveness?

      There are not enough hours in a day for Mac's confessions to be heard…..

  39. Anonymous says:


  40. Anonymous says:

    this article sums up everything that is wrong with this administration…..

  41. Anonymous says:

    Yes, he really needs a break from all his …… hmm what it is he does again ….. oh yes, travelling and he must be exhausted from the last meeting of the LA which was only 3, going on 4, months ago. 

  42. Anonymous says:

    When Bush flies Cayman Airways does he get miles on his Sir Turtle  Card? It should actually acrue to the govt. so the next premier can take advantage! …

    All of them politicians are the same! Do not replace UDP with PPM; just like the americans replace Republicans with Democrats every 4 years and get more of the same.

    The environment of democracy needs a structural change. XXXXX Tranparency in public office with the Press acting as the proper 4th pillar is the answer.The other 3 pillars being legislative, judicial and the police. Have a public TV channel where all bids and tendering is open to scrutiny. Post RFP's(request forproposals) on a govt news bulletin on the web. Let the whole world know what is required of a govt. project and how to bid for it. The cloak and daggers are promoted and facilitated by both parties.

    • Dred says:

      You know what the real issue is. There are probably about 3 reasons why YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO DO EXACTLY THAT.

      1) You want to know for sure that UDP does not get back in. Saying that you are concerned that throwing votes at Independents and not to PPM might help UDP retain control. It comes down to best of two evils. If I had say either PPM or UDP it would be PPM everytime BUT that's not saying a whole lot.

      2) You are also scared that EVEN IF we get Independents you could get a Quagmire in the LA. That is a basic stalemate. Like 7 UDP, 7 PPM and 4 Independents or 6 – 6 – 6.

      3) Then finally you are scared that some of the independents really are wolf in sheeps clothing. That is UDP posing as independents or PPM posing as Independents.

      These are the things you worry about when you are voting. Is the person I am voting for TRULY independent? Can they hold their ground against aged veterans like Alden and McKeeva? Will they avoid corruption?

  43. Mr Self Righteous says:

    I looks like our leader and his prodigal son have kissed and made up over the GLF situation although i don't know if leaving him here to confront a nemisis while him and he boy Ellio dance the night away in Havana is how you reward a disobedient son. Oh well we shall se how it goes.

    • Concerned Caymanain says:

      Let's just hope that dancing is all they are doing in Cuba!  All those poor young girls…

    • Anonymous says:

      Elio gone to Cuba too? What does he have to do with Cayman Airways?

    • Anonymous says:

      True true.  Cline being set up again, to the ruination of his own political career. Cline got the bad end of the stick, being the project leader of the "failed" port negotiations, when everybody knows it was the Premier who singlehandedly "failed" it, and now Cline is once more being used, to do what the Premier finds too insignificant in his busy travelling / overseas jaunts to stay here and do.  Then when one man / one vote gets passed (which will happen), Cline gets left up the Sh..t Creek, being the one who defended it as he was asked to do.   You know why I think the premier travels so much. Hehas no clue how to run government and thinks if he is out of the country long enough, people won't notice.

  44. Anonymous says:

    Poor Cline!  He will be like a one-legged man at a butt-kicking contest!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      It would be poetic justice if Cline got to the debate and announced he supported one man one vote wouldn't it. (Sorry, I must have been dreaming off my liquid lunch)

  45. Naya Boy says:

    More Mojitoes at our expense and  the women ooooooooh yeah please dont use the Government credit card Mackeeva cause Ezzard going to FIO the bill.

  46. Anonymous says:

    Cline, sell this man out, tell the truth about one man one vote and you may get to keep your seat.  It's the medicine we need.  Stop suffering under the leadership of a fool and live up to your own ideals.

  47. Anonymous says:


  48. Anonymous says:

    Bush, the CAL directors and friends who go should all be put in jail for this waste of money. CAL has been broke for years and the CI government has been broke for the last 3 years. Mr Governor if you are not going to do anything about this type of abuse then you should resign.

    • says:


    • Anonymous says:

      "…the CI government has been broke for the last 3 years."


      How do you know this? Oh yes…..the audited financial statements.


      Hmmmm…McKeeva's travel expenses seem to get paid. Go figure.

  49. Anonymous says:


  50. Dred says:

    I am wondering when Cline will get it!!!

    He's being thrown into the deep end of the pool while MAC runs off for another "Business Trip". Now forgive me for asking such a DUMB question. Exactly why do people of the Cayman Islands need to go discuss CAYMAN business in Cuba? This is not discussing anything with CUBANS this is a "RETREAT" to discuss the airline business.

    What the heck is wrong with these people? Why not book someplace up in East End or North Side or Cayman Brac or Little Cayman if you want to "getaway" and lockdown for the weekend. At least the money you spend will be in Cayman helping OUR economy. MY GOD How stupid can we be? PEOPLE WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE BROKE, WE ARE SUPPOSE TO RUNNING A DEFICIT!!!!!


    • Anonymous says:

      I'm wondering what Cline owes Mac.

    • Anonymous says:

      Doesn't take a genius to figure out why he would rather getaway to Cuba rather than to somewhere else on the island…. 

    • Anonymous says:

      The Premier has gone to Cuba to enjoy seeing the Pope.  Oh, and to spend the Caymanians money, once again, for whatever he dam n well pleases.  He can't convene the L.A. because it's not a priority but the Panama Trade show was.  He doesn't give a flying fart about proper representation and voting laws. He just continues to spend, spend, spend and you let him with no accountability.  Cuba is definitely more important than balancing thebooks, or, actually even seeing to it that the government is so called "running" (into the ground) is submitting required spreadsheets for the last 4 years.     

      • Anonymous says:

        Foolio is fluent in spanish.  We can't say the same thing about his English….

    • This is riduculous says:

      Cline gets it! Unfortunately we dont! XXXX

      Mac is running scared now, I hear he has been desperately trying to recruit more candidates and they are all turning him down. Look like the UDP needs to change its name to the "Lonely Hearts Club". I bet you Foolio is out there in Cuba getting his "Salsa" on too! XXXXX

    • Lachlan MacTavish says:

      Rome is burning, we talk and talk, we complain, nothing changes except the deficit which will continue to grow until you sign the petition and it is presented to The Governor. I wish people would stop talking about asking Bush to agree to the referendum. He will not do that. Get this process over sooner than later.

      Lachlan MacTavish

    • Anonymous says:

      If the board needs to "get away", then all they have to do is:

      1. go into a government room in the new Government Administration Building

      2. lock the door.

      3. turn off all cell phones

      and voila! You magically have created a "retreat" at no cost to Cayman.


      I offer this sage advice to the McKeeva without a high rate consulting fee that is billed to the Cayman government. Hmmmm, 10 percent of nothing is nothing… wonder he doesn't listen to me.


    • Anonymous says:

      No wire tapping can go on there….no peeping toms, witches and devil worshippers can be there to eavesdrop….

  51. Democracy Now says:

    Thanks Mr. Premier. You have shown why the present system doesn't work. Have a nice time on your "retreat". Hope you can pick up some pointers while in Cuba.

  52. Anonymous says:

    ROTFLMAO! Mac "retreats" from debate and leaves his stooge to face the music. 

  53. Anonymous says:

    Why are "issues related to the national flag carrier" taking place on foreign soil? Another excuse to spend money we don't have.

    • Sinin' Chicken says:

      Look at the list of directors – most of them with no aviation industry experience – and yet we pay fo their freebie flights for their valueless contribution?  What a disgrace!

  54. Anonymous says:

    SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!……  In these days of austerity the Premier and whoever else is on this "Retreat" thought it necessary to go to Cuba???? There are plenty places on Island, or the Brac or Little Cayman where such a meeting would not only save on airfares but be of benefit to the local economy…shame on the organisers for this seeming waste…staying at local hotels would also be good publicity for the Cayman Islands tourism sector….. Is the message that to discuss the nations flag carrier, we can only find a suitable venue off Island????? Let's spend local dollars abroad, much better eh?

  55. Reality Check says:

    A retreat is exactly what it is.  If he is going to run away every time he cant back up an argument he better buy a second home abroad.


    Our national airline is already a money loser but most feel it provides various benefits tot he island that make it worth the cost.  Would it not have been easier to "retreat" to one of the Sister Islands?  The board and management would still have been able to find a quiet place to talk but the cost would have been far less and a local business or two would have also benefitted.  I guess that wasnt running far enough away.

  56. Anonymous says:

    Retreat in Cuba with Cayman Airways! That is actually code for "Meet the chinese in Cuba(as they are now no longer welcome in Jamaica) to see if we can come up with a worse proposal for the airport than the one we came up with for the port"!

  57. Anonymous says:

    Whereas Mac could not bring a decent argument and would have long pauses, CG will now bring a confused argument from the elected government side.


    What happened to Ellio aka Mini-Mac? Surely he would have captured the Bible-folk with his proverbs and parables while also confusing the rest of the audience and not actually answering the questions or debating any issue.

    • Anonymous says:

      Ellio is probably with Mac in Cubas to act as his official spanish translator.

      • Anonymous says:

        Imagine translating one of his parables to try to make a point or give a direction to the taxi..


        [In Spanish] "Where is our hotel? Yeah, it is right up here. You see Mr. Driver, if you have two buildings and you want to sell one, but you dont have the money, what you have to do is get a loan from your pension, then you take that to a bank for a deposit for a loan to sell one of your buildings, and voila, there it is- our hotel."

  58. Anonymous says:

    So that means Mac is scared to engaged in debates?  Ha ha ha.. you guys make this up as you go… no?

  59. Anonymous says:

    haha…chicken opts for another jolly instead of a debate…..

  60. Anonymous says:

    This confirms that Puppet Mac and former right-hand jester, Cline, are not on good terms.   Rather than making a fool of himself, Mac has offered Cline to the firing squad.                 Cline should call in sick.  He will be destroyed!!!!




    • Anonymous says:

      What you need to ask is why C keeps taking a beating and showing up again and again in support of Mac. 

      • Anonymous says:

        The Inner Circle

      • Anonymous says:

        Maybe Mac has something on him.  How else can anyone explain why CG keeps shooting himself in the foot by allowing himself to be used once again – and who will be once more left to take the fall / bad rap when it all falls apart?   Because you can't intelligently defend the indefensible.  The UDP knows this, and the premier knows this.  So the only conclusion left is they know they will fail, and CG will oncemore be the scapegoat.  This should prove to CG what opinion the premier really has of him, and hopefully CG will be intelligent enough not to allow himself to be used again to further someone else's agenda. 

    • Martin Sutton says:

      You couldn’t make this up. The people of Cayman are powerless to stop the damage.

  61. Anonymous says:

    The UDP doing damage-control BEFORE the debate begins.., hahahahahahaha

  62. Anonymous says:


    Any bets on the following 1) mac is a no show. 2) mac walks out before half time."


    Peanuts, you called it right!! Wish I had taken that bet afterall… (sigh)

  63. Anonymous says:

    I've heard of the long arm of the law, but this takes the cake. The ventriloquist will be in Cuba and his dummy will be here.

  64. Anonymous says:

    LOL…  Reschedule the debate!  Did we all think he was goping to actually show??

  65. Anonymous says:


  66. Anonymous says:

    Is anyone surprised that Mac has turned tail and run?


    How much will this trip cost us and who else are we paying for?

    • Anonymous says:


      Look folks, it doesnt matter if Mac debates this, you will not get One man one vote (aka democracy) because you need him to agree to it, Turkeys and Christmas. He relies on the present slanted system to control the LA, he isnt about to change that is he? In England, they had a slanted system that required the agreement of the robber barons and the monarchy to change the system they benefitted from. It took hundreds of years and probably the fear of French style revolution to slowly unwind the system.

  67. anonymous says:

    "retreat" is right…that is exactly what you should be doing…RETREATING…or could it be the new codeword that means, "get EVERYTHING I CAN FOR FREE NOW, cause come nex year, I is out"…

  68. Anonymous says:

    Let's see – chilling with a few mojitos at our expense or showing up and risking being shown for what he is – tough call.

    BTW – why the hell does Cayman Airways haveto waste more of our money on a retreat in Cuba. If they needed a retreat at all there are plenty of facilities in this little country of ours that could use the business. We the people are subsidizing the total cost of this little perk for management and the politicians.

  69. Anonymous says:

    No surprise there!  There should be no debate on true democracy. End of Story.  Premier realises that and sent CG to the slaughter while he takes another vacation in Cuba.

    And If the government is going to waste our money on "retreats" at least spend it in Cayman Kai, Morritts, Little Cayman or Cayman Brac so it actualy stimulates the local economy.

    This is a list of the Cayman Airways Board that are likely along on the joy ride:

    Ms Pilar Bush, Chairperson

    Dr Dax Basdeo, Secretary

    Captain Wilbur M. Thompson, Director

    Mr George Hunter, Director

    Mr Nathaniel S. Tibbetts, Sr. JP, Director

    Mr Phillip Rankin, Director

    Mr Joseph Imparato, Director

    Mr Anthony Akiwumi, Director

    Mr Norman Klein, Director

    Mr Shomari Scott, Director

    Mrs Sonia McLaughlin, Director

    Mr Leonard Dilbert, Director


    • Anonymous says:

      Yo quiero go to Cuba tambien.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well said – what does Cuba have to do with Cayman Airways?!  Or stay at the beautiful Reef Resort…..even get $10 voucher towards your room if you wanna stay!  Ridiculous!

    • The Aviator says:

      Never in the history of human transport has such a small airline had so many directors with so little experience of the industry . . .

    • Alice says:

      The board of CAL should resign for this waste of the public money. This retreat should be held in Cayman . Why are we spending public funds in Cuba. Shame on you Board members.

    • Anon says:

      Honestly, Is this a joke? – or is this really the Board of Cayman Airways? 

  70. Anonymous says:

    There appears to be an interesting story in this. What is the urgent issue with Cayman Air, causing an unsheduled last-minute meeting? Besides the one-member constituency debate, isn't Lord Blencawthra here for meetings with the Premier? To abondon his visitor and the debate, one has to assume there is a very pressing issue. What interest does Cuba have in the national flag carrier?

    • Anonymous says:

      I think the Airline might have been mistakenly sacrificed to Copa Airlines on the Panama trip.

  71. UDP Supporter says:

    I am not surprised that our Premier chose not to attend this meeting. It is clear to me as well to other true, fair-minded Caymanians that this would only turn into an opportunity to bash our leader over his reasonable position. He's the leader of our islands and always done what he thought was best for our islands even if some "Caymanians" and their expat backers do not agree! We all need to come together and have as much faith in our Premier as we would have in the word of God!

    • Anonymous says:

      More blasphemy.

    • Anonymous says:

      As an atheist, I confirm that I have as much faith in the Premier as in the word of God.

    • Anonymous9 says:

      Hey UDP Supporter, that's a good spin!

      I tried to click the laughing face button but once wasn't enough.  (And it's not showing up…)

      Anyway, Hahahaha!

    • OMG says:

      Please crawl back into your crab hole

    • Anonymous says:

      Is that you Foolio?

    • Anonymous says:

      Are you comparing the premier  to the word of God?  Haven't you read "do not put your trust in man"

    • Anon says:

      UDP Supporter – When I read your comment my jaw dropped!! You're really "over the top" comparing the Premier, a mortal man, to the Word of God.  God help you.

    • Anonymous says:

      No other politician has more expat backers than the premier, he done give 3000 of them status!   Yu tink it was all for nought?  Payback time now, he counting on them to "back" him good.

  72. Justonebigscorethatsallhewantsnow says:

    What a coward. And spending public cash to have a mini break to Cuba to discuss the National airline with its board, instead of taking a day in George Town – how very cushy and nice for the people involved. I wonder if this is a special charter laid on by CAL – just a quarter of the seats full and lots of catering?

    This is more evidence of the contempt McKeeva Bush feels for his electorate. He knows his time is almost up, so he'll do just as he dam' well likes. That includes running from any proper debate. The only public meeting he'll show up at is one where there is no risk of being questioned about anything.

  73. Anonymous says:

    I could see that comeing as soon as the words left his mouth.  First "smart" thing I have seen Bush do.  He is Too busy racking up 1st class miles while he still can or he is just running from responsibility again.  LOSER!

  74. Anonymous says:

    Oh…what? He's not going to be there? Surprise Surprise

  75. Anonymous says:

    Run Forest! Run!

  76. Tara says:

    How predictable!  Sending someone else to do his dirty work…..!  Or does he have to excuse himself simply because he realises he has no good argument to defend his position and so rather than go down with his sinking ship he'd rather head to Cuba (on a "retreat") to escape and leave someone else to guard his sinking ship – a bit like the captain of the Costa Concordia!

  77. Anonymous says:


  78. Absurdistani says:

    Shocking and totally unexpected. Mac selects a travel retreat over a debate about pressing important issues.

  79. Anonymous says:

    That is soooo funny. Thanks Mac, you’ve made my day again

  80. Anonymous says:

    Being in the public eye is not his best talent

  81. Anonymous says:

    Dear Teacher,

    My son McKeeva is sick and can not make it to school today,


    My Mother.