Man stabbed in neck at bar

| 12/01/2013

11734_3719737828631_570488377_n_0.jpg(CNS): Updated — A man is currently in a serious condition following astabbing at a bar in the early hours of Saturday morning, and a 34-year-old woman from West Bay has been arrested on suspicion of wounding. An RCIPS spokesperson said the police received a report at around 3am that a 49-year-old man had been slashed and seriously injured at the Nectar Bar, Seven Mile Shops. The emergency services responded and the victim was taken to the Cayman Islands Hospital, where he is being treated for serious injuries, which are not believed to be life threatening. Meanwhile, another man was reportedly robbed on Shedden Road around the same time. However, the police said the complainant was too intoxicated to provide details to officers.

Police said that more details in connection with both crimes would be released once they were available but officers are asking anyone who was in the vicinity of the Seven Mile Shops at the relevant time to contact 949 4222 or call Crime Stoppers anonymously on 800 TIPS.
 

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  1. Anonymous says:

    This is why I don’t go to clubs anymore…always some crap with some loser that ruins the night

  2. Anonymous says:

    It would be useful if you could avail yourself of the current holders of the various liquor licences and when incidents like this happen, the name of the owner/licence holder could be published in the story. Unfortunately, the operators of these businesses are allowed a level of anonimity and not subject to the emarrassment and public pressure that they are due.

    And this information should be publicly available from the Liquor Licensing Board who sadly don't even have a website in 2013. Come on Stran, CG and Franz; we can do better than this.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Yes, people harm people and while I can understand the views of others that we shouldn't blame it on outside factors, it has been bugging me for months now as to why the Liquor Licensing Board allowed this establishment to convert from a nice and quiet martini lounge to a nightclub? Do we really need another nightclub on this island??? By the way, its no longer Nectar "Bar", its now Nectar Nightclub.

    I took my first and last visit there some nights ago and was appalled at the behaviour of some of its patrons, in addition to the fact that the security at the door was not searching or asking anyone for ID's. I guess this explains why someone could enter the club with a knife (if that was the weapon used). And lets not mention the language barrier! It took me 5 mins for the bartender to understand what I was ordering and eventually she had to go get another staff member that spoke better English. Aren't these people supposed to pass an English test before they are given work permits? What's going on with the Immigration authorities in this area?

    I hope this incident will now wake up the relevant parties, including the police, so that they can have another look at this nightclub and what's going on there. Its unfair to other business owners when they are targeted and penalized for simple matters but, yet this club continue to break the law in certain areas and it goes unnoticed. Some examples…..they partied there until 1:30 am on Christmas morning when everywhere else had to close at 12:00 am, they are allowed to have Sunday dances, sometimes staying open until 12:30-1:00 am, and again, nothing is being done about it. I could go on but, I'll leave it there.

    It's plain to see if this club was following the correct procedures, patrons should've been out of there a few minutes before this incident took place and today they (Nectar) would not have their name plastered online or their little late night sessions finally revealed.

    And no, I'm not another bar owner. I'm a Caymanian that's concerned about our laws and culture not being respected.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sadly, this type of late night violence is now very much part of Cayman's culture.

    • Anonymous says:

      Caymanian culture? Do you know the victim and alleged attacker are both Caymanian.

    • Anon says:

      True this is a Spanish speaking venue. I went there once, and wasn’t a place I’d go again. I am not passing judgement on any group’s ethnicity, mother tongue, or culture.. Just not for me.

      BUT, the fact fact that neither the staff nor the customers are fluent in English could well have delayed emergency responders, and any work permit holders should have a basic grasp of English.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Why blame it on the alcohol !!!!!

  5. Anonymous says:

    This is all playing into Dart's hand.  It will justify his building a multi-hotel all inclusive resort along OUR  West Bay road.  They will claim they need to do it because the Island is becoming unsafe.  Now all the tourist dollars will stop with Dart not making it off site to Cayman merchants.

    • Anonymous says:

      Seriously?? Cut the paranoia, not everyone is out to get the Cayman Islands.

      • Anonymous says:

        True not eveyone is.  But Dart is and already has control of Government due to his vast wealth.  You all act like he is a "saint" because of his wealth and are ready to sell him the island.  He gets all the concessions and Caymanians get the shaft.

        You will look back years from now and wonder how we could be so stupid as to fall for Darts line of sweet talk.  It will be too late then.  Cayman will find out that, in fact, we sold or soul to the devil.

        • Anonymous says:

          Dart out to damage Cayman..?…Are you completely out of your mind.?..ask the thousands of people who are employed because of the Dart's investments, ask the thousands who enjoy the SAFE environment of Camana Bay.

          Crawl back under your rock.

          • Anonymous says:

            And what about those who don't want to work there or who have left already where are they going to work?  Soon there will be only one employer and you'd better hope you don't want to leave.

          • Castor says:

            It's a conspiracy!

        • Anonymous says:

          Global warming will take care of everything.

          • Anonymous says:

            It’s a serious point, if the Eco warriors are to be believed in 100 years or less after sea levels rise 2,3,4 feet cayman will be nothing more than a little island full of stray dogs and iguana’s. Wait hang on it already is.

        • Anonymous says:

          Dart only did and continues to do what greedy Caymanians have allowed him to do. They sold their land to him. They continue to elect greedy and corrupted politicians who are just out to line their own pockets and love to rub ellbow with the rich like Dart. They sit on the boards who pass the required approvals (planning board, residency board, immigration board etc etc). So what is your point?

    • Ya mon says:

      Sounds about right – I'll be going there to enjoy taking a break in safety from the thugs, robbers, murderers and gangsters of West Bay.

    • Anonymous says:

      Here's the thing though:  Cayman *is* becoming unsafe.  In fact, scratch "beginning".  It is already unsafe.  The news stories I read every Monday morning are soul-sickening.  It's actually hard to believe that as a community, we have gone from our shock, dismay and fear over rising crime to a kind of stunned acceptance that these things happen on an almost daily basis, on Grand Cayman at least.  What would you suggest?  If you don't want those who have a buck to spend developing tourism to create all-inclusive resorts in which tourists are gated off for their own safety and peace of mind, what other solutions do you have to offer?   It seems to me that developing any other kind of tourism here would be throwing good money after bad.  Who will come?  It may be true that tourists live themselves in areas rife with crime, but that does not mean they will be willing to spend their hard-earned vacation dollars to fear for their handbags, necks and wallets here.  The devil you know, and all that…  Who wants to be in a strange place — especially one where the only real draw is relaxation — only to spend the whole time tense and worried about being mugged, robbed or assaulted?  It's not like we're offering jungle tours or other adventure experiences here.  We're supposed to be a peaceful haven.  If we're not, why would they come?  

       

       

  6. Anonymous says:

    Whenever a tourist asks me about night life in Cayman I don't hesitate to warn them of the violence found there now a days.

    Sad but true.

    • Anonymous says:

      There is violence in every island. So lets not make it a big deal ok ? When you out the next time jus be cautious. Live and let live. Stop complaining

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes but the relative lack of violence was a big selling point to entice tourists to Cayman and pay the higher prices. Now, people may deliberate and say well St. Lucia, St. Thomas, and Aruba are 40% less, and crime is similar. Let's pass on Cayman.

      • Anonymous says:

        yes and if you are stabbed in the neck please don't complain about it and try not to bleed on my shoes

  7. Anonymous says:

    I can't forget the woman who stabbed her man in the Brac just a few years ago. Her knife went between his ribs and pierced his heart. He died, of course. In her defence in court she asked the judge to go easy on her, as, in her own words, "I only gi' him a li'l jook!"   It's amazing how far a "li'l jook,"  will go, especially with a sharp blade.

    • Anonymous says:

      I Live on the Brac and I dont know anything about that?

      • Anonymous says:

        Me either.  Can someone please clarify this?  I know of a man that was stabbed by a woman but he is alive and well.  She almost killed him but he is still alive.

        • Anonymous says:

          14.48. Thank you. I stand corrected about the victim dying. I'm glad to hear he survived the knife attack. The charge in court, then, must have been 'attempted murder', but the quote by his girlfriend , "l just give him a li'l  jook!"  is accurate. I hope they live apart now…..

  8. Whodatis says:

    "Rumour has it" that although the bar was packed with many witnesses, who fled the establishment stained with blood, it took an unusually long time for the emergency services to arrive on the scene.

    Firstly, this was apparently due to many of the affected individuals not wanting to get involved in a serious criminal investigation – one can only assume they had their "good" personal reasons.

    Secondly, for the few brave and righteous souls that did "make the call", there were significant communication problems due to language differences between the 911 personnel and the patrons. This was compounded by the fact that many patrons were finding it difficult to provide details of the exact location – Nectars bar, Seven Mile Shops, West Bay Road – easy right? One would think so – not in 2013 Cayman.

    "Rumor has it" that one frantically concerned patron was so overwhelmed by her task of relaying the necessary information to 911 that she began appealing to others to take her mobile phone and carry out the duty instead:

    • Do you speak English?!
    • Where is this place?!
    • Can you talk to them (911) for me please? He needs help!

    Obviously, scenes such as this can be very distressing and confusing, especially when alcohol, fear, and adrenalin are involved. Add to that language barriers and unfamiliarity with the country – it can become a very dangerous situation indeed.

    Emergency despatchers need clarity, a quiet(er) background, clear and concise information. Unfortunately, many of the patrons on the night were unable to understand these instructions and requests of the 911 staff in the midst of the excitement.

    Apparently someone did take the phone and speak with 911 and was met with the following:

    "We have received many, many calls about the incident, however we are not getting clear confirmation on what has happened. Do you speak English, sir? Can you move away from the scene and explain what is going on? Where are you calling from? We now have units on the way. Is the injured person still breathing? Is it a male or female? Is he being attended to?"

    This was perhaps 10-15 MINUTES AFTER blood-splattered patrons began exiting the establishment and the injured person was bleeding out in the parking lot!

    A lot has changed in Cayman, however it appears as if we still have a lot of work to do in regards to fine-tuning the various departments and policies in order to bring about a smoother operation and existence for all.

    Lastly, according to witnesses, it appears as if the establishment and its hired security team were not very proactive in ensuring that the incident was reported and medical attention was on the way. A very noncholant attitude toward what was happening. (This was possibly a factor in the delayed arrival by emergency personnel. Everyone immediately assumes that the establishment will inform 911 of what has happened in its place of business and consider it not their individual duty or task.)

    Best wishes to the injured individual – hope you have a safe and speedy recovery.

     

    • Anonymous says:

      Do bars even have a plan for calling 9-1-1?  Turn offthe music, move to a quieter location, and call. Are security guards even given such basic training? 

      It is hard to reasonably hold emergency services to account for a perceived late arrival if no one has called.  The response time for ambulance and police is fairly only judged from the time an incident is reported.

      I remember basic Red Cross training in which one person is designated to call 9-1-1.  None of this "Someone call!" and so 10 people pick up a cell phone and overwhelm the 9-1-1 system.  It is preferrable that just one calls who can provide good and clear information about the location and nature of the incident and answer the 9-1-1 opertor's question.

       

  9. Anonymous says:

    I think I was robbed last night too…. Wait, huh, last night? Ummm not sure, hey! Where are my shoes? Errr shoe Huh, what the?…. Can someone do their civic duty and sponsor a program to give me a free ride home? Wait….. Where do I live???

    • Anonymous says:

      you are an idiot

      • Anonymous says:

        I guess that’s just a point of view cuz I tend to think of someone drinking (or shootong smack) themselves into such a stupor that they get robbed and can’t report it as a bit of an idiot. Anyway, thanks for sharing.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Fun times in bars afer midnight.

    • Anynomous says:

      What is so interested is that the man was too intoxicated even to provide details.  You think this would happen to a Weed Man?  No way, a weed man is always conscious.  Alcohol is the agressor, and makes one turn into a big idiot after two drinks.