7MB hotel bar robbed

| 30/08/2013

CNS): Less than 48 hours after a terrifying home invasion in Savannah at the hands of four masked gunmen, the police are on the hunt for two more suspects following an armed robbery at a West Bay Road hotel. Police were called to Treasure Island in the heart of Cayman’s tourism district along Seven Mile Beach after 11pm on Thursday night after two men entered the hotel lobby and robbed an employee of cash at gunpoint. The men were described as tall and dark in complexion; one was around 6ft 1inch and the second around 6ft 3inches. Both robbers wore blue jeans, blue hoody, black shoes, black gloves and blue masks. One was armed with a silver handgun with a wooden handle and the other a black handgun.

No shots were fired and noone was injured during the hold up and the gunmen ran towards the beach, heading towards West Bay direction.

Anyone who may have spotted these men or have any information of the robbery are asked to report it to any of the police stations or call 800-TIPS (8477) or call 949-7777.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Almost every crime like this is being perpetrated by mean wearing hoodys.  Just outlaw hoodys……they are not necessary since it is so hot here.  Don't allow the selling or wearing of hoodys in Cayman. 

  2. Kato says:

    17.04 your comment re: Baines is laughable. Really who should b the real commish is Derek Haines. Not certain why kirkconnell and Scott did not see this? Still goes to show its who you know and rub shoulders at happy hour!

  3. Anonymous says:

    I think all this criticism of Police Commissioner David Baines is unfounded. He is the best leader we have ever had. Crime is down, confidence is at an all time high and the police force is well-equipped with the latest pursuit vehicles and helicopter, not to mention the superb marine vessels capable of very high speeds to chase down the drug dealers.

    I am so happy that Duncan Taylor renewed his contract, so we can have many more years of crime-free confidence in our blissful island.

    I suggest that the haters find something to really hate about rather than picking on this model policeman and his impeccable approach to fighting crime.

    • Anonymous says:

      anon 1704 I am not going to say Baines is the problem. However Caymanians have never seen the level of crime we are seeing today and the police are celebrating when 50% of the crimes are solved. Moreover while the rest of the CS is being cut both in terms of budget and staffing the police continues to grow.

      Something is terrible wrong with that kind of sucess in our police department.

    • Anonymous says:

      Um, Duncan Taylor?  He done left the island and now governs Mexico.  I think you need to visit CNS more so you can keep up to date!

  4. Anonymous says:

    Maybe we need a registry of robbers or burglary so we can find out when or if they are going to steal. We can all know when we see them around the neighborhood. It would help because they are definitely going to steal more then once per year. What do you think Cayman?

  5. Anonymous says:

    People always say Cayman is so much safer the place like the US and Jamiaca, they are right but the problem is that its safer for the stick up man..Go Cayman Kind

  6. 4Cayman says:

    I still can not understand how the RCIPS are asking for assistance when we have a million dollar CCTV program? I would have thought this is how the CCTVs would work. 

    Crime is committed, 24 hr manned technician would notify the RCIPS a robbery has occurred and the perps have headed south on foot or in a car with a license plate number. They are wearing blue shirt with black pants. They are armed with guns, machete and a screw driver and are considered dangerous.  The RCIPS then can commence their pursuit or even run the license plate number and show up at the perps house and commence with their investigations.

    quite alarming all this money being spent and there's really no value when compared to police still seeking eye witnesses – this CCTV needs to be investigated and identify why is all this money being spent and we are no safer and the crimes are much more than ever.

    • Anonymous says:

      I think you may be a little disillusioned. The CCTV system doesn't cover every inch of this island. It's a CCTV system not a Hollywood film crew. It has limitations and like almost every CCTV system the world over it won't be as effective at night and it can only provide footage where cameras are actually installed. To cover every single square inch of the island would cost billons.

      • Rorschach says:

        It's about time somebody had a little common sense about how this system works…bravo..

    • Anny omis says:

      The real question is where is the footage? I saw a person yesterday that I had met briefly 10 years ago,but i recognised her gait from 100 meters away, in my car on Elgin Anenue. If we could see the footage we might, simularly, recignise the offender(s).

      Why bother to spend the money on cameras if we are not goimg to use the data gained to apprehend the doers?

  7. Community Service says:

    Any statement to make Mr. Premier?

    Can you give your people some assurance that the longstanding crimewave will be tackled swiftly and effectively?

    I think we have given Baines quite enough time.

    • Anonymous says:

      The problem is the premier is not in charge of the police. The Police Commissioner or the Deputy Governor should be making a statement.

  8. Anonymous says:

    We should not be so quick to cast judgement, I am sure that the RCIPS Inspector means no harm with her comments. However crime does not occur in Vacum. Every crime has quasi -unique set of causes conquences and participants. Crime affects some people more than others having a special impact on those who are direct participants in the act itself-offenders, victims, police officers, bystanders and so on. Crime, in general provokes reactions from individuals it victimizes from concern groups of citizens, from the criminal justice system and social policy. Recactions to crime from everyday to precedent-setting, may colour the course of future criminal events this what is known as the social context of crime.  Until we start examine some of the many social, psychological, economic, biological and causes of crime we will never make sense of the crimes being commintted. 

     

  9. Anonymous says:

    Welcome to Grand Cayman where we rock it GangMan style…

  10. Anonymous says:

    "Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold".

  11. Anonymous says:

    There is CCTV in the lobby of the hotel…where are the pictures for the public?

  12. fedupcaymanian says:

    Go on Facebook and you will see all the criminals posting pictures of them with their guns.  I can give you a list of the names of who to look at.  Why can't the cops figure this out?!?!?!?

    • Anonymous says:

      I dare you to report these name to the police………..hold a second people in Cayman won’t work with police as witness. SOMEONE in family and friends know who it is but refuse to help due their lazy a**.

  13. Anonymous says:

    OK, enough is enough, this is a line in the sand. It is time we demand that the Government take these armed robberies extremely seriously. Drastic action is needed.

    First, Baines needs to be fired and a top cop from one of the urban areas of the US or Canada needs to be recruited who knows how to take a hard line. Next, whether we like it or not, we need to take the step of completely arming our police force. Whilst most of us wish that this was not necessary and that we could still live in the good old days, it is clear that nearly every major crime now involves armed perpetrators, sending in unarmed cops to make arrests is clearly not working and an unarmed police force is clearly no deterent to the criminals.

    We should also undertake an urgent review of all sentences for violent crimes and particularly those involving fire arms and double the existing prison terms. We should also deport any foreign criminals to serve out their sentences in their home countries. It may be too late for these measures to stop further decline of our lovely islands, but at least the Government may be seen to be actually trying to stem the tide of criminal activity, rather than sitting idly by as they currently seem to be.

    • Anonymous says:

      “..deport any foreign criminals”………not bad idea but if you look the facts from northward prison which 90% are caymanians let kick them out of the country!

      • Anonymous says:

        The truth is in fact that half of all crimes committed in Cayman are committed by foreigners and that at least a third of Northward inmates are not Caymanians but then again, that messes with your anti Caymanian view.

        • Anonymous says:

          You've just made up all of your statistics. None of what you have written is factual.

    • Anonymous says:

      And what about the Caymanian criminals you bigot, stop blaming your issues on foriegnors and clean up you own backyard..

      • Anonymous says:

        Ha! I think you should check your own prejuduices before you call someone a bigot. I wrote the above comment and I am an expat – albeit one who loves these islands, not a Caymanian. If you read my comment you will see that I am in no way saying all the criminals are foreigners, Iam simply stating that one of the ways that the judicial system could be better served is by ensuring that those crminals that are foreigners should be deported to serve their sentences in most likely less comfortable surroundings than Hotel Northward.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hold on a sec, what has Baines done wrong?

      • Rorschach says:

        well, for starters..Baines has done nothing wrong.. in fact he hasn't done ANYTHING…and THAT'S the problem…

    • Jonas Dwyer says:

      Hear Hear and I would add the the new recruit train at least three more officers, so that we have continuity of. Command.

  14. Anonymous says:

    While I share everyone's alarm and concern over these incidents, I'm really sick and tired of ridiculous statements such as "police need to pick it up", or the complaining about CCTV. 

    How about offering some real concrete pieces of advice instead of this moaning and bitching?  If you have a good idea to fight crime let us have it.  Don't just say "the police need to do better".  Shut up if you've got nothing more constructive to say.

    I for one do not have any ideas for the police so I don't criticize them.  I do however feel that the  main job of the police is to catch criminals (that's an after the fact problem).  They can do little about the fact that we as a society are producing so many criminals (a before the fact problem).  This is a long term problem and will need long term solutions.  The police "coming down harder" doesn't seem to me to be a realistic option for the long term betterment of Cayman.

    • Anonymous says:

      Solution to our problem:-  Recruit 6 police from the US, 6 from Canada, and 6 solidiers from Central/S. America and a Commissioner of  Police, who will give orders that will be carried out and expected results guaranteed.  Salary paid in accordance with performance/results. 

  15. Anonymous says:

    "One was around 6' 1" and the second around 6' 3'". Well, that certainly narrows things down a bit. (I thought I had a lead today but when I asked him his height he told me he was "definitely 6' 2", sir ", so that let him off the hook straight away. I'll be carrying a tape-measure from now on to verify things, of course.)

     

    • Anonymous says:

      09.09, I am 6'2'' and also got seriously worried this morning as I may have shrunk with age, can I let myself off now?  On a much more serious note, second armed robbery this week? I see one commentator says this is more worrying than Savanah, which is completely daft. Any gun crime is deadly serious..police raids needed and quick.

    • Anonymous says:

      Stupid comment. Seems you can't win. People complain when the descriptions are too vague and then they complain that they are too precise.   

    • Anonymous says:

      I just had to re-read…for a second there, I thought I had read "armed with a silver fork and wooden spoon" I was like WTF??

    • Anonymous says:

      How do they know these thieves aren't wearing heals to throw off their actual height?

    • Anonymous says:

      just look for two fashionistas in their color coordinated outfits.

    • Anonymous says:

      As a short-arse, I am happy to be excluded from suspicion.

    • Anonymous says:

      Reply to One was…Sounds strange to have the exact height…but a lot of businesses have

      height measurements marked on their doors so when a person runs out you know

      how tall they were. (Not that that will really help, have to catch them first)  which the

      poice seem to have difficulty doing .This is getting toally out of hand.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Dont worry the CCTV will solve this crime

    LOL

     

  17. Anonymous says:

    Unbelievable!  What's happening to this island??!?!?!?!?!?!

    It's time to act DECISIVELY and with EXTREME force!

    Come on RCIP!  Pick it up!

    • Anonymous says:

      Unbelievable you are full of hot air. Are you new around here?

      How is any of this unbelievable? I've been here 23 years and it has happened throughout the entire time. Can't remember how many times the bar at Seaview was robbed.  Hammerheads.  Myrtle's. The parking lot at Casanova. There was a rash of them and then it dies down and then picks up again. For 25 years before I moved here I had NEVER been robbed and none of my family or any of my friends had ever been robbed. Since moving here in '90, my place has been broken into about 9 times. Caught the person on 3 of the occasions but nothing came of it. Never got my property back. So WTF?

      And don't forget what goes unreported because nothing seems to happen when you do. The last one I reported, the police NEVER CAME.

       

      • Anonymous says:

        Their pay should be accordiing to the work/cases they investigate and is presented to the court.  If they are not working and just cluttering up the infrastructure, move them on.  There is room for efficency, and productivity.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Ask the RCIP. Perhaps they were targeting someone and there is no need for the greater community to be alarmed. Then lets see if the CCTV that is so great bears any fruitful video that can aid in a conviction not an arrest. As a community we have a failed policing policy not a failing. Failure is in the present not in our future. We have armed men in a highly populated area walk in masked and hooded brandishing firearms and leabe yhe premises and escape the area. How can this be a common topic if we had successful Policing? The anser is a total failure. We have a generation of ganja users who were not violent but also not good parents rear another generation of people who are now crack addicts. And they are rearing this new breed that we see. We also have violent offenders from other jurisdictions who are intermingled and breeding with our local gang girls. This is an alarming percent of our populance. This spells failure. Failure in your homes and failure a community. The blind eye parent approach has contributed to this problem. It is npw a time for each person and business to protect themselves in whatever legal way possible.

    • Anonymous says:

      This is an alarming percent of our populance. This spells failure.

      Well its a failure in spelling!

      Further on you say that we must all protect ourselves in whatever legal way possible. If you mean arm yourselves, then that is making the problem worse. The thing you DO need to do is to become more responsible as a people. Harsh? Maybe, but the biggest problem for the police is gathering evidence, they come up with the endemic Island problem that everyone knows each other (yes, a slight exaggeration) and that means you wont tell them what you know, at its worst, a recent case had a principal witness withdraw in court!

      This has to change, if we want this to stop then we must expose the perpetrators, someone knows who they are! 

    • Shame on us says:

      Parents raising entitled kids.  2.000 unemployed locals, and 6,000 government employees. 

      Family services failing and literacy rates so sadly low.

      What did you THINK was going to happen when we allowed the polticians to drive us suckle their "promises".  The elite who have risen out of poverty have turned their back on their less fortunate families and acceptance instead of indignant rage is the norm.

    • Grandfather Troll says:

      "It is now a time for each person and business to protect themselves in whatever legal way possible."

      Personally, I think in ANY way possible, legal or not!

       

  19. Anonymous says:

    This is terrible. Not even in Jamaica do criminals go into tourist resorts/areas and commit these types of crimes. They at least have enough sense to know not to disturb the tourism product. 

    • Anonymous says:

      Ha, they can’t. There are armed guards at every resort entrance.

    • Anonymous says:

      Treasure Island is no longer a tourist resort. They made the switch to focus on low-cost, long-term rentals a longtime ago because they couldn't keep up with the restof the tourist accommodations. And they're paying the price. A few tourists stay there because it's cheap, but most are local residents attracted by the cheap, all-inclusive package (including utilities, phone, internet) and, unfortunately, there are now some unsavoury characters living there and even more targeting the area for crime.

    • Anonymous says:

      it's because they can't get inside the compounds where the tourists are

      • Anonymous says:

        I agree and that is the future of the Cayman Islands watch how soon the gates go up..

    • Anonymous says:

      The criminals don't disturb the tourist hotels in Jamaica because the hotels are guarded by men with loaded automatic weapons.  It has nothing to do with their commone 'sense'.

      • Diogenes says:

        Not going up against a man with an automatic weapon sounds like common sense to me. 

  20. Cheese Face says:

    It's okay, everyone keep calm "CCTV is fighting crime"

  21. Anonymous says:

    this is alot more worrying than what happened  in savannah…..

  22. Anonymous says:

    Ask the RCIP. Perhaps they were targeting someone and there is no need for the greater community to be alarmed. Than let us see if the CCTV that is so great bears any fruitful video that can aid in a conviction not just an arrest.

    • Anonymous says:

      When does it finally become too much, what number of robberies must we reach. Robberies per capita? We must be pretty close to the topp of the list.

       

      • Anonymous says:

        The law is for the criminals, so upright citizens protect your home, family, business and anything else.  When the criminal is injured you will hear what a good person, or a good child he/she was.  Let them take it to the Lord in prayer.  Defend yourself in the most discrete way.

      • Anonymous says:

        Last one out, turn out the lights.

         

      • Cayman C says:

        We have to get back to the policing of the 80's & 90's darn it.  We used to have IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT out with POLICE rounding up anyone not on permit.  The key to this is to clean house of any visitors taking advantage of our borders and then we can look inside our own community. 

        This will work on two fronts – erdicate any foreign criminals (no one left to blame) and allow focus on our true problem of passive acceptance of now third generation low-income gang neighborhoods.

    • Anonymous says:

      I believe there is a need for the community to be alarmed. When the bullets start flying and some innocent person is caught in the crossfire, then what does one say? Oops, guess we should be concerned!

      Everyone needs to outraged and outraged right now!