English test re-sit refusal turns into court battle

| 10/07/2014

(CNS): A Filipino national who failed an English test taken at the airport on the night he landed in Cayman almost two years ago has turned to the courts after the immigration department refused to let him re-sit the test. Manolo de la Pena Vallo arrived in Cayman in September 2012 on a temporary permit granted on condition he passed the language test. However, after traveling for some four days he missed the pass mark by 10%. When he and his would-be employer applied for a chance to take the test again, Vallo was denied a re-sit. Vallo and his potential boss, Paul Ramoon, claimed in their legal action that this move by immigration was "unfair and unreasonable" and put Ramoon's business at risk.

The Grand Court heard Thursday that Ramoon's workforce at his janitorial company had been rolled over and he was counting on the arrival of Vallo to help him stay afloat.

Vallo had worked in Cayman in 2005 and 2006 for almost two years for two different employers. He had passed a local driving test and held a license when he was here to drive Group 3 vehicles and his English was competent.

On arrival he was confident that he could pass the test and had agreed to do so at the airport, despite being tired after a very long journey and four days of travelling, including a delay in Bangkok, where he was detained by the authorities to check his travel documents. He claimed he was unaware that he would be able to take the test the next day or that it was a one-off opportunity which if he failed would see his permit refused.

When he scored only 65% on the test which requires a pass mark of 75%, he was allowed temporary entry. His employer then pressed for a re-sit but the immigration department’s deputy chief officer at the time, Samantha Bennett, told Ramoon and Vallo that the tests could be re-taken for spurious reason and the policy allows for a re-sit only in exceptional circumstances.

In his claim against the immigration department, heard before acting Grand Court Judge Nova Hall Thursday, local defence attorney and former immigration officer, Dennis Brady, argued that his client had been unfairly treated and that there was no risk to the country, government or anyone in allowing Vallo another shot. He said the immigration heads had not considered the totality of the circumstances when they shut down Vallo’s chance to try the test again. Brady said that Ramoon had been discriminated against as his business was in serious jeopardy, having lost his workforce to the seven year term limit only to face losing the first replacement worker as well.

It was also revealed that having anticipated starting work immediately on his arrival, Vallo did not have a return ticket to the Philippines.

Brady asked the court to stop the immigration department’s efforts to have Vallo deported and allow him to re-sit his test.

The chief immigration officer was represented by the Attorney General’s Chambers and the counsel argued that Vallo had been given a chance to take the test the next day but he chose not to do so and that he had also been informed that if he failed it the permit would not be granted. The government lawyer argued that the chief immigration officer has the right to revoke a permit and all permit applicants from non-English speaking countries are required to take a language test as part of the conditions

The lawyer argued that the long journey was no different from that taken by many other permit holders in the Cayman Islands and he was given a chance to rest. She said that Ramoon’s business troubles were an entirely separate issue from Vallo’s failure to pass the requisite test as she asked the judge to throw the case out.

Nova Hall said she would consider the arguments submitted in the case and deliver her decision before the end of the month.

Since Vallo entered Cayman and took the test at the airport, the immigration policy has been altered. All work permit applicants from non-English speaking countries are now required to take and pass a specific language test at designated centres in their home countries and acquire a regulated certificate before arriving in Cayman.

See details of case as filed in Grand Court below courtesy of OffshoreAlert.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    A janitor?  Anybody can do that job.  What's so special about a Filipino that can't speak English?  Find someone else that can speak English.  I'm tired of hearing Filipino and Spanish when I'm trying to buy items in the grocery store or ask the cashier a question.  They are too busy plopping foreign language to each other.

    • Anonymous says:

      That's because the vast amount of 'Caymanians' that now live on Grand Cayman are of Latin American extraction. So called Caymanians are, and have always been a mix of peoples from the local Caribbean, (predominately Jamaican) the UK, US and Canada, plus those from the rest of Europe and the wider world.

      Its a big wide world out there, but you just show your ignorance by being a bigoted ass and using very un English derogatory terms such as 'plopping foreign language to each other'. At least they want to pick up the s##t you leave behind and are willing to do it for poor pay and conditions. How many unskilled and unqualified Caymanians do you see cleaning floors or taking away garbage?

      You could have maintained controlled immigration from the English speaking world, but you decided to go for cheap labour to do the jobs you won't do. Stop whining and get over it, you reap what you sow bobo.

      • Anonymous says:

        "That's because the vast amount of 'Caymanians' that now live on Grand Cayman are of Latin American extraction". HUH? You people just make it up as you go along. Perhaps you come into contact with a lot of Hondurans but that is not representative of the population. 

  2. Anonyanmous says:

    For all of you that think Cayman is so bad and you have so many right under the Europeans courts and human rights go to Greece or else where, here is proof.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ASpKCnx4D4

    I am sick of some people coming here and demanding all kinds of rights that they cannot get in their own countries or else where.  Caymanians and Immigration need to get a backbone and stand up to everyone local and foreign and let them relaise that the law is the law.

  3. Anonyanmous says:

    He who has ear let him hear the same will happen here if our legislators refuses to do what is right and let anyone irrespective of where they are from know that they are subject to the law of this country without exception.

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/03/09/philippines.maids.reut/

    http://globalnation.inquirer.net/8975/maids-in-hong-kong-sue-for-residency-rights

  4. Frank says:

    Good. I am tired of dealing with front line staff or speaking on the phone to people who dont speak a lick of English! 

  5. UHUHUH says:

    Quote: A Filipino national who failed an English test taken at the airport on the night he landed in Cayman almost two years ago has turned to the courts after the immigration department refused to let him re-sit the test. Manolo de la Pena Vallo arrived in Cayman in September 2012 on a temporary permit granted on condition he passed the language test. However, after traveling for some four days he missed the pass mark by 10%. When he and his would-be employer applied for a chance to take the test again, Vallo was denied a re-sit. Vallo and his potential boss, Paul Ramoon, claimed in their legal action that this move by immigration was "unfair and unreasonable" and put Ramoon's business at risk. End Quote.

    Question No.1 Did Mr. Vallo  spend two years working in the island without having passed the language test?

    Question No.2 Did he leave the Island after working for two years, and has now returned to take up the same position with the same company? And was he tested at the airport but failed the test?

    Question No.3 Now the question must be asked! If Mr. Vallo spent two years working here, but failed to gain a basic command of our language, thus failing the language test? Why should he be allowed to stay, when under the law if he fails the language test he must [ASAP] leave the Island?

    Question No.4 Has the NWDA checked to see if there are any Caymanians who are willing and able to do this job for which Mr. Ramoon wants Mr. Vallo.

    Note: I feel for Mr. Ramoon, in that he has lost his staff due to roll-over, but, I do believe that he is responsible for this, simply because if he would have had more Caymanians in his employ this could not have happened. Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned here! 

     

     

    believe he has some responsibility for his dilemma, when he seemingly employed most of his staff from the expat community.

    • Anonymous says:

      So all he had to do was hire more Caymanians.  All he has to do is find some that are WILLING and ABLE to do the job, good luck.

    • Anonymous says:

      I am tired of going to businesses in my island and seeing nothing but Phillipinos.  I can understand the odd one, but the businesses are being allowed to continue hiring these people because they can work cheaper than Caymanians and other nationalities.  Sure, they pay rent for a two bedroom apartment and cram 12 people in it.  They have hammocks to sleep in and take turnssleeping in shifts.  If some control is not put in place, our beautiful islands will be just an annex to the Philippines.

      • Anonymous says:

        An annex of thr phillipines.  Its already an annex of jamaica……..

  6. Anonymous says:

    I always find it interesting when I read these stories. The number of people here on work permits who cannot speak English is amazing. There is no way these people have sat this test and passed it. It seems the test is only done for certain people. 

  7. Whodatis says:
    • A Filipino national
    • A janitorial company
    • Extremely long and expensive air travel
    • No return ticket
    • Delays in Bangkok due to paperwork issues
    • Inefficiency in the official language of the country
    • Language tests
    • Court case
    • Defence attorney
    • Immigration department
    • Caymanian unemployment
    •  … a janitor?!

    If there was ever a case for the NEED of a MINIMUM WAGE in the Cayman Islands THIS IS IT!!

    My goodness … what the HECK did I just read?!

    • Anonymous says:

      I think you just answered your question with your last point – "… A janitor?!" 

    • Anonymous says:

      When the lazy assed, self entitled, over inflated egos of the very many unqualified, inexperienced, (and most of all) unwilling Caymanians actually apply for these unskilled positions, then feel entitled to rant about expats who travel half way around the world to work.

      Of course this situation is ridiculous, but so is the failure of the Caymanian people to take work that is commensurate with their ability, experience and education, not their nationality.

      I'm afraid that the attitude of many to the service industry is appalling, and when a Caymanian does get accepted for employment they are often unreliable and lacking in basic communication skills themselves. How many customers get grunted at by predominately younger Caymanians who just can't be bothered to motivate themselves to actually be of service to the people who ultimately pay their wages? The very people who police our borders and set these tests can't even be bothered to be polite, communicative and professional.

      This madness is your own fault, unless you change your own attitudes towards working ethics, communication and most of all education, then employers will go for the person who can and will work hard to ensure a successful business, (no matter where in the world they come from).

      • Anonyanmous says:

        Get over yourself poster 18:55 it was Caymanians that built this country for their generations to enjoy they envisioned a place where their generations would prosper like they do in Dubai, Monaco and Bermuda.  Try to import that garbage to anyone of the three places that I've mentioned or go there and see how the nationals of these countries are treated in there country of origin, they are placed above all others, live very enriched and entitled lives in their own countries as they should.  I agree with you the madness is the fault of Caymanian legislators who are placed in positions to enact laws for its natives that will be of benefit to them instead of the reverse but I hope they will be around to deal with the out come if the disinfranchisment of Caymanians continue.

        • Anonymous says:

          Actually is was the financial industry, and to a lesser extent tourism, that bought riches to Cayman in the early '70's. The international finance, law and business community enabled Cayman to become one of the wealthiest Carribbean countries and sewed the seeds of prosperity for future generations.

          The 10,000 Jamaicans/Caymanians that populated this place in the 60's were clueless in regard to those lucrative industries. If these businesses pulled out tomorrow Cayman would quickly return to a sleepy backwater that produced little that the modern world needs or wants.

          • dr scaramanga says:

            Coupled with Lyndon picking unnerving the stability and moving the political route for Bahamas to go independent in 74, whilst people jumped up and down cheering for their new flag and anthem, behind them where banks and finance arms packing bankers boxes. The next politically stable place was sought on a map which quite frankly, could have been anywhere.

            So which bit of Caymans finance industry was built locally?

            • Anonymous says:

              Exactly, no financial whizz kids here in the 60's and 70's, all done by foreign businesses and foreign workers. Just remember that when you whine about foreign labour.

              • Anonymous says:

                11:56. "no financial whizz kids here in the 60's and 70's, all done by foreign businesses "and yet we dumb clucks were able to entice those foreign businesses to come here instead of locating in Europe or North America.Certainly we must have done something right,or maybe the Governments in North America and Europe were doing something wrong but the truth is that over the last forty years Cayman has provided jobs for individuals from these destinations. So please don't knock the hand that has fed many of you over the past forty odd years.

            • Anonymous says:

              22:19. The foundation for this success was built locally,without this there would have been no finance industry which created jobs for thousands;expat and local alike,so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

            • Anonyanmous says:

              FYI poster 14/07/2014 – 22:19 Sir Lynden Pindling regarded as the "Father of the Nation" of Bahamas led the country into independence on the 10 July 1973.  Most of what you say is very true but do you  realise 41 years later many of the same banks and are returning to the Bahamas that they ran from with much more appreciation for the country and its people. Bahamians reinvented themselves and are more educated, friendly and much more determined to be the author of their own destiny and so far they have not done such a bad job.

              Even with the gifts bestowed on Cayman by  you and all the rest it seem to me that the Caymanian people are regressing while you progress seem to mimic what happened to a certain people in America.  The Bahamas endured some hard times but now they seem to be doing quite will maybe even better in there own rights because I don't see any Bahamians suing the Caymanian government to live or work here.  As a matter of fact less Bahamians live in Cayman than people who have to travel from thousands of miles away now that must  say something for Lynden Pindling and his leadership.  He must have left his people a legacy in which they are willing to stay in their own country and build it locally that others are not able to take the credit for.  Enough said and I hope that the Caymanian people will realise one day that all that glitters is not gold and many of what we crave is just fools gold and will tarnish in a minute.

          • Anonymous says:

            13:33.You are so right.We were so clueless that we accidentally passed laws and enacted regulations ,that so enticed some of the keenest minds in finance and law to leave their home countries to come here and help us build the Cayman Is. into the fifth largest financial centre in the world.If we did all this while being clueless,imagine what we will do when we get a clue.

          • Anonyanmous says:

            Actually it was Christopher Columbus that first set foot in America, he discovered the USA in the same way that the financial industry, law and business community enabled Cayman to become one of the wealthiest Caribbbean islands and sewed the seeds of prosperity for future generations.  I will only say to you that Cayman made millionaires of many of those in the financial industry that would have found it impossible to do so anywhere else.

            Cayman is in the mess that it is today as a result of allowing others to write themselves in its history much like the USA and unlike many in the other Americas.

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

            • Anonymous says:

              Most of those who operate in the financial/ legal sector are seasoned professionals who have had experience in the City of London, New York, Hong Kong, Dubai etc, etc…….

              They would have made money wherever they went, Cayman is just a small pebble in a huge financial and corporate world.

          • Anonymous says:

            10,000 Jamaicans/Caymanians? What does that mean? You are putting Jamaicans ahead of Caymanians in Cayman? They were clueless? Without them there would have been no tourism or financial industry. Don't write nonsense.

            • Anonymous says:

              Like it or not, the population of Cayman in the early 1960's was approximately 10,000, and many of them were of Jamaican decent alongside a large proportion of British, US and Canadian expats. It wasn't until much later that the cheap labour from Honduras and other Latin American countries arrived to fill the shortfall in the labour market.

              Cayman took the wise choice not to follow Jamaica down the blind road of independence and as a consequence remained a stable economy in which foreign business could operate. Whilst the wise heads in power at the time were given a degree of autonomy, it must be remembered that Cayman was very much a British Dependent Territory in those days and deferred to the UK on much of its policy implementation. Bearing in mind that none of the financial institutions that operated from Cayman were 'Caymanian', it would be hard to see how any of this was down to the hard work of the Caymanian people.

              Simply put, if the population was 10,000, you can say a third were of employment age, (let's say 3,500) exactly who was qualified in international/offshore finance, commercial law etc, etc…………?

              As for tourism, well don't make me laugh. Most of your tourism product is wound up in privately owned houses and condos, leaving little room for local employment or economic benefit. You rely on a couple of overpriced hotels and bargain bucket cruise lines to boost the rest, it's farcical. And all because you are too stupid to see the benefits of long haul package and all inclusive vacations. You have allowed a few greedy developers to build condos when they should have been building your hotel and resort stock, how smart you are.

              And finally, I would employ a Jamaican over a Caymanian anytime. They work hard and turn up everyday, unlike their Caymanian colleagues who wouldn't know a full days work if it bit them on the ass. And in comparison, I'd say that Jamaica's tourism product is streets ahead of Caymans.

              • Anonymous says:

                You don't know what you are talking about. Cayman links with Honduras are very close – much closer than the liinks with Jamaica – and go back 150+ years.

                Caymanians are Caymanians and Jamaicans are Jamaicans. Stop trying to conflate the two. Until 1962 Jamaica was not even a country, just a fellow colony.

                Jamaicans also do not benefit from much of its tourism,particularly cruise tourism.  

      • Whodatis says:

        Re: "When the lazy assed, self entitled, over inflated egos of the very many unqualified, inexperienced, (and most of all) unwilling Caymanians actually apply for these unskilled positions, then feel entitled to rant about expats who travel half way around the world to work."

        I hear you loud and clear buddy.

        However, I trust you do realize that Cayman is by no means unique in regards to the unemployment : immigrant worker debacle. It is the same story all over the western world right now my friend.

        I suggest you click on your television and click your mouse to the ongoing reality in the USA, Spain, Greece, Germany and of course – the UK.

        It is a fair assumption that you are not a Caymanian, and you haven't stated where you are from (or in fact where you reside at the moment), however, what is clear is that you are in dire need of some proper context to the situation at hand. Thereafter your rather accusatory and myopic perspective may finally begin to see the bigger picture at play.

        I also trust that you realize that many British, Spanish, German and French CEO's, politicians, employers and policymakers make the exact accusations against their own citizens?!

        (I have on numerous occasions provided links to direct quotes from western politicians and policy makers that support my claim.)

        Just as British companies, for some odd reason, find such great value in hiring immigrant workers – so do Cayman based companies.  What is equally interesting in the coincidence of said immigrant workers coming with a lower price tag.

        (*Please note my usage of the term "immigrant" as it was purposeful. Many of our "expats" are very familiar with this term as it is very common within their home countries and tends to be associated with many politically sensitive issues – especially at this time. However, it is crucial for all readers to understand that if you are an "expat" in the Cayman Islands you are the equivalent to an "immigrant" in your home country.)

        Are the dots beginning to connect as yet …?

      • Whodatis says:

        Oh, and by the way, in regards to; "then feel entitled to rant about expats who travel half way around the world to work" – you started off your reply with a gross misunderstanding of my post.

        In no way was I ranting against the immigrant worker in the news story. Instead,I was addressing the system that exists in the Cayman Islands. If anyone pays attention they will realize that I always take my own people and our representatives to task whenever there is an issue that needs addressing. Everything about Cayman, be it good or bad, is ultimately our doing.

        Lastly, you are invited to join the ongoing debate in other forms of social media. We are not hard to find.

    • Anonymous says:

      There would have been 2 less unemployed Caymanian if they bothered to report for work when out of 600, 15 were finally chosen when RCIPS advertized they had vacancy for Police Officers. Only 13 showed up for the 16 weeks training!

      There would have been another 2 less unemployed Caymanian if they had gone to see Mr. Joey Ebanksof Auto Spa when he generously offered 2 vacancies just for Caymanians.

      Last time I had my car washed, I guess the position is still open!

      I wonder if there would be a scramble from the 9k unemployed Caymanians for the vacancies available when 1500 expats would be rolled-over again as the 2-year extension from 7 to 9 creeps around the corner? or, they could again extend it from 9 to 11! yee-haw!

       

       

       

       

       

       

  8. Anonymous says:

    Perhaps Caymunkind was lost in translation.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Let’s face it, there are a lot of Jamaicans here who cannot read, write or speak English either. Why are they not facing the same testing?

    • Anonymous says:

      That might be true but they sure as hell understand it tho!!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      English is an official language of the Phillipines, albeit not the only official language. The same can be said for Canada.

      If persons from English speaking countries are exempt from the test then why are Filipinos not exempt?  Canadians are.

      It cannot be because English isn't the predominate language of the Phillipines.  Patois is the predominate language of Jamaica yet Jamaicans seem to be exempt from the English test as well. So obviously English need not be the primary language to rate that country's citizens exempt from testing.

      Of course there is the slight possibility that Cayman's testing requirement is capricious and arbitrarily enforced. 

      • Anonymous says:

        Your arguement is flawed, English is the first and official language of Canada, english is not for the Phillipines.  Patois is not the official language of Jamaica, english is.  This is a predominately english speaking country and anyone who does not pass the test should not be granted a work permit plain and simple. Enough said, crap statements and crap like this is what is turning Cayman into a cesspool.

        • Anonymous says:

          The assertion that "English is the first and official language of Canada" is woefully incomplete.

          The Official Languages Act in Canada made English and French equal official languages. The law is even available in English and French for your review:

          http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/O-3.01/FullText.html

          " The purpose of this Act is to

          • (a) ensure respect for English and French as the official languages of Canada and ensure equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all federal institutions, in particular with respect to their use in parliamentary proceedings, in legislative and other instruments, in the administration of justice, in communicating with or providing services to the public and in carrying out the work of federal institutions;"

           

          Similarly the assertion that  "english is not for the Phillipines" is again incorrect.  Article XIV Section 6 & 7provides that:

          "Section 6. The national language of the Philippines is Filipino. As it evolves, it shall be further developed and enriched on the basis of existing Philippine and other languages.

          Subject to provisions of law and as the Congress may deem appropriate, the Government shall take steps to initiate and sustain the use of Filipino as a medium of official communication and as language of instruction in the educational system.

          Section 7. For purposes of communication and instruction, the official languages of the Philippines are Filipino and, until otherwise provided by law, English.

          http://www.gov.ph/constitutions/the-1987-constitution-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines/the-1987-constitution-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines-article-xiv/

          So English is a joint official language alongside Filipino for purpose of communication.  Communication, after all, is the issue here in Cayman. Yet we test the English of Filipinos and exempt Canadians.

      • Anonymous says:

        And, (after reading some of the Caymanian responses here) maybe more than a little, racist, bigoted and plain stupid. Unless this guy is working in a position where actually needs to have clear English communication skills, (such as a bank teller or shop assistant) then what's the problem?

        Oh I forgot, it's okay for a Caymanian to be incompetent, uncommunicative, rude or just plain ignorant, but not a hard working foreigner who has travelled from the other side of the planet to pick up your s##t.

        Simply put, you don't want to do the filthy, unrewarding and low paid work yourselves, but you don't want anyone else to do it either. I'd rather settle for a hard working guy who isn't that stupid, thanks anyway.

  10. Knot S Smart says:

    Once someone gets a job as a Civil Servant their ego seems to inflate faster than a balloon on helium… This is a simple matter – just let the man re-take the test and if he fails then off he goes to wherever he came from…

    But instead the Immigration Department and the Legal Department are wasting thousands of our hard earned tax-payer dollars fighting to prevent a foreign worker who have lived, communicated, and worked amongst us for several years –  from re-taking an English Test…

    This is a good example of a few extraordinarily large Civil Servants egos, combined with a very few grains of common sense, and a large dose of 'Cayman Kind'…

  11. Anonymous says:

    Good to see Caymakind working so well

  12. Anonymous says:

    Why was the decision to impose the test when the man was impaired by fatigue not challenged as part of the JR?  It seems a stronger objection.

    • Anonymous says:

      That's not what the article says. It says that he agreed to do it upon arrival feeling confident that he could pass it, not that it was imposed on him.

      • Anonymous says:

        So?  Does not answer the point.

        • Anonymous says:

          That is precisely the point. There is no human rights issue founded on the basis that he was forced to do anything.  

  13. Anonymous says:

    The law is the law. Only in the Cayman Islands I know of  that would be immigrants suing the government for reasons to stay in this country. And the part that burns my  "a–" is the fact that stupid Caymanians are our biggest downfall in these instances. Enough is enough and we already have enough non-speaking people in Cayman. When you call some places the receptionist has no clue of what you are saying and often give the wrong info. It is very disgusting when we know deep down there is a Caymanian who can professionally answer a phone, No this darm cheap labour is destroying our country, and topped with low class living called slum, some without water and electricity with as many as six people to one room. Government MUST stop this degrading matter to further escalate. Immigration MUST implement the law and stop this friend, friend business. What in this you don't understand, simple you don't speak proper English you are not qualified to be in another man's country! I read on line a few week ago that UK notified their immigration officers to implement their laws, if any nation enters their shores they must speak "PROPER" English or the officer with be held accountable, the warging further stressed that no one is entering their jurisdiction and change their English language they MUST abide by their laws and regulations. Let the Cayman Islands do the same for th sake of generations to come. Cayman will soon be the second Miami! Wake up Cayman!

    • Anonymous says:

      It's alway funny when posters come to the forum and rant about a subject as if they are an expert yet their post is full of basic grammatical and spelling errors.

      • Anonymous says:

        11:24. It is even funnier when posters try to change the subject by pointing to "grammatical and spelling errors."

    • Fred the Piemaker says:

      You do realise that with that standard of written English you may struggle to pass the test yourself?

    • Anonymous says:

      'We already have enough non speaking people in Cayman', that must be the immigration officials at the airport, you know, the ones that always have a breezy smile and cheerful demeanour. The same uncommunacative jobs worths that set these dumb tests.

      Oh yes, and if you're going to comment on other peoples English skills, learn them yourself first!

  14. Anonymous says:

    Wow! Seems like Vallo is EXTREMELY important to Mr. Paul's business, and if the permit is not granted then the whole business might shut down. First Question: How much is Mr. Paul planning on paying Vallo, $300 a week?

     

    Before the nutters say 'How is that relevant?', you need to ask yourself, 1) should Mr.Paul be placing all of his eggs in one basket, and 2) was the Imm policy followed?

     

    He's basically asking for a resit because he did not pass the first time – you think he will be the only one to ask for a resit?

     

    You go to Panama or Brazil looking for a job as a janitor and you cant speak Spanish or Portugese, you think you going get the job?

    • Anonymous says:

      You ever travel to the US

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes he is  extremely important.  What caymanian will be a janitor? If the man has no staff he cannot fulfill his contracts and the business will close. Do you prefer this business owner to go to social services  and get handouts instead of trying to make money himself? 

  15. Anonymous says:

    This is BS.

  16. Denning says:

    He has been here for 2 years without a permit? He had no return ticket? What kind of Micky Mouse systems do we have here?Of course he deserves a hearing but the pace of the process would seem slovenly at best.

  17. Anonymous says:

    A few queries?  How has he been able to stay in this country for almost two years without work?  On another note, there are so many people working here that can't speak English well.  Grocery stores, stores in general, government glass house, fast food, to name a few.  How Immigration passes some of these prospective workers is beyond me.  He doesn't have to have a return ticket when leaving the Philiphinnes.  But why worry, Immigration collects a non refundable 200 per work permit to cover repatrication, that fund should be ample enough to send him back for how many workers does the immigration department really send back in total per year?  That would be interesting to find out. 

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree with most of you post. However, it costs more like $2000 to send someone home to the Phillipines, not $200.

    • Anonymous says:

      Since we are on the subjects, why nit send then ALL back.  After all immigrants are ruining the nation.  There is a belief that these immigramts are taking jobs from us but REALLY are they?  I cannot find a caymanian, even an illiterate one, who is willing to work for the low salaries phillipinos and other immigrants are willing to work for.  But lets stop winging, send them all back home and see how we manage to staff our hospitals, schools etc.  j

      • Anonyanmous says:

        Yes, why don't we ask them all to leave, we should gladly return their reparitation fee and send them all back and wait to see the place crumble and fall because this place was built on the sweat and shoulders of low income immigrants.  Caymanians did nothing to build this country it was null and void prior to 1980.  Get a grip of yourself and to paraphrase the Beyonce song "We'll have another you and them in a minute".

  18. Anonymous says:

    Poor man to be treated so barbarically without need.  Another victim of a "Christian nation" that likes to be the bully.

  19. Anonymous says:

    The majority of these people including the latinos cannot speak English. Dont ask me how they ever pass a test. The majority who can speak alittle better refuses on their jobs or anytime at all to speak English at all. This should be mandatory on their jobs.

  20. Anonymous says:

    In case you missed it before…. Cayman 'Kind' ……..

    • Anonymous says:

      Caymanians lie down and play dead.  Let the expats trample us, that is what they all expect to do.

  21. Anonymous says:

    in the meantime the employee has been here for two years not working……. yeah right how do you afford to stay here that long without working?

    • Fred the Piemaker says:

      Probably working under operation of law (WOL) pending his appeal. 

    • Anonymous says:

      Ask any of those guys sat around Mary street or Rockville clutching a beer at 0830 in the morning. Or any MLA.

      • Anonyanmous says:

        The guys that sit around Mary Street, Rockville and anywhere else in Cayman clutching a beer at 0830 in the morning is doing so in their own country and is not fighting to live anywhere besides in their own country the Cayman Islands. Christ once said, "you now go and do the same".

  22. Anonymous says:

    Let's be honest here,the immigration dept do what they want when they want. Who has ever heard of a law were one person (cheif immigration officer) can at their disgression can change it!!! read the law and this is what is says.. So if i employ someone without a permit and i am a friend of the CIO they can drop allcharges and give me a permit…

    This Dep nees to reamped ASAP, the donkeys woking there have no clue and think they are GOD!!!

     

  23. Anonymous says:

    Very weird.  I come across plenty of people here who clearly don't understand English very well and don't speak it well, either.   How did they pass the test?

  24. Anonymous says:

    Please… I wonder how many Caymanians could pass that test, given their poor grammar and heavy accent. Una wan believe dem tings is easy, I give una tree reasons why dhey ain't. Reading, writing, pronunciation.  

    • Anonymous says:

      Well it is clear you would understand them just fine!

    • Anonymous says:

      You are one of those A–holes too, want he whole nine yards.

    • Anonyanmous says:

      Please… Caymanians born here and not seeking to go anywhere to fight their system to remain so you go and do the same. So please…… don't let the door know hit you, Next!

  25. Skweekee Bhum says:

    I'd love to see all the applications for the jobs. No Caymanians applied, that is for sure. There is definitely no agenda to fill this country with nationalities from zillions of miles away. Caymanians are probably useless and incapable of holding down jobs? Eh? Alden, wink, wink, nudge nudge. Howmany more foreigners have your handlers told you to flood our small country with?

    Send them home to lobby their own government to fix their own country and they would not need to screw our country up.