Robbers hit tourist spot

| 17/10/2014

(CNS): More than eight customers, as well as staff, were held up at gunpoint late Thursday night in the fourth armed robbery this week. Police said that two masked, dark skinned men with handguns held up Coconut Joe’s bar and grill last night just after 11:30pm, stealing cash, wallets and jewellery from the restaurant and its clients. The robbers reportedly entered the premises through the back kitchen armed with dark coloured hand-guns and shirts covering their faces. The robbers demanded cash from the register and then threatened the eight customers in the restaurant with their firearms as they stole more cash and other personal property from them.

Meanwhile, local burglars were having another crime spree after four more daylight break-ins were reported on Thursday 16 October. Three residential burglaries were reported in George Town, West Bay and Bodden Town, where cash and jewellery were reported stolen and a bar on Shedden Road, George Town also reported a burglary where a cash register was stolen.

Detectives from RCIPS, Drugs and Serious Crime Task Force (DSCTF) are investigating the robbery at coconut Joes and anyone who was in the area at the time, who saw anything suspicious around 11:30pm – 11:40 pm, should contact George Town CID on 949-4222, the RCIPS tip-line 949-7777 orCrime Stoppers on 800 8477(TIPS).

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  1. Otherview says:

    Came n' Gone

     

  2. MEM says:

    The police are just as afraid to get shot as the ones with the guns stuck in their face!

  3. Anonymous says:

    Where are the six Belgian Malinois police dogs that were so expensive that were purchased 3 years ago? Are they still around? They should be able to assist the Police with their duties. 

  4. Anonymous says:

    This is unbelieveable to say the least..!!!

    So many cop cars and milions spent on resources and cops evey year yet the more police and cars we have the less we seem to notice them. Maybe they are all doing forensic detective work or something. Get some of them cop cars out of the parking lot and do some more patrolling or park them in strategic locations to give the robbers at least something to think about. They are just having a field day with these very incapable police officcers who wouldnt even qulify to do security work at a mall anywhere else in the world.. Yess yess I know there are probably some good and qualified officcers in the force yess but guess what, that is still not enough..these thugs are getting more reckless by the minute. It is only a matter of time before people start getting killed in more violent robberies. People are fed up, i remember back when I used to sleep with my windows open at night sometimes to catch some nice seabreeze or would leave the door open for when my girlfriend came home from working late shft. Now I have a double layer of security on all entry points and a machette under my bed and still feel bulnerable at times. I hope something drastic is implemented real soon to clip the wings of crime before it is too late because if we have to compete with other carribbean destinaions on beauty alone we are doomed – Honduas, Cuba, Jam all with rivers mountains, rainforrests et. and at a fraction of the cost.. we wouldnt have a chance in hell..

  5. brit says:

    This Island is doomed if something isn't done.  Robbing tourists now!!!  Word will be out there and no-one will want to come to Little Jamaica for fear of being robbed. What a very very sad state of affairs indeed.  I can remeber years ago cycling to Little Hurleys and leaving my door & windows unlocked,   not these days though!

  6. Anonymous says:

    Lay off the police…you no think they busy enough checking for expired licence and tint!

  7. Anonymous says:

    Good going Cayman, we continue like this and soon there will be no more business for the thugs to loot

  8. Anonymous says:

    This is truly awful but sadly inevitable.It will only get worse.If we are not carefull a tourist will be murdered and  we will be then following in the footsteps of other violent Caribbean islands.That will be the beginning of the end of tourism here.

  9. Anonyanmous says:

    Blame it on the Status Grants of 2003.

  10. Anonymous says:

    It saddens me to say that Cayman is now just like every other Caribbean destination where armed robbery and murder are fairly commonplace.

    No place is now safe from armed robbery and many businesses require customers to be "buzzed in" to enter.

    The culture of secrecy is a main contributing factor that enables these criminals to operate with impunity in such a small population.

    Who to blame, those who keep the secrets.

    • Anonymous says:

      Murder is not commonplace in Cayman. I believe we've had one this year. 

      Has it occurred to you that people might remain silent out of fear for their own lives? Or that they do not trust the police who, it is widely believed, leak information back to the criminals?  

  11. Soldier Crab says:

    Where are the police? Would like to hear their strategies on dealing with these robbries and day light burglaries!

    • Anonymous says:

      I saw 2 on bicycle patrol Friday night down SMB and was quite impressed. You can't be everywhere all the time but that's a good start.

      Need way mroe of those!

  12. Anonymous says:

    The police and guns cannot fix social and cultural problems.

    The fix for these crimes are:

    Long Term: Explicit age appropriate sex education aimed at preventing unwanted, prenatally abused, and neglected children from coming into this world. 

    Short Term: Legalize, tax, and control drugs.

    • Diogenes says:

      Legalizing drugs is never going to go beyond ganga – wont deal with crack – its just so socially detrimental it can nver be tolerated.  And even if drugs are legal, addicts need money to buy them and cannot secure employment to fund it.  So as for short term fixes, try catching the criminals and putting them away. Physically removing them from society may not be a long term fix but it sure as hell works whilst they are locked up.  Then make sure they cannot access the drugs whilst in prison, so there is some small chance they wont revert when they eventually come out. 

  13. Anonymous says:

    Maybe we could turn the crime spree into a tourist attraction.

    Let's offer the crooks free ganja in prison if they commit their crimes while dresses up as pirates.

    We could then offer the stay over tourists adrenaline filled holidays where they can experience the "real" pirates of the Caribbean.

    Think I am joking? This solution will work just as well as the current status quo.

     

  14. Anonymous says:

    Law abiding citizens need to be encouraged and trained to utilize methodsto defend themselves!

    Yes, this means easier access to owning a firearm legally. And pepper spray etc.

    The Police need to stop discouraging law abiding citizens from protecting self and property.

    Remember….the criminals already have guns! And the Police can't be everywhere….heck, it seems they can't hardly be anywhere. And don't even start about their sucess rate at evidence gathering and prosecution.

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree with this point and as a caler to radio show said this morning police can't be everywhere, neither can the Commissioner of Police, so even if the dream by many is to have a Jamaican run the Jamaican squad we now have that might only make matters worse.

      We need better quality of police not just quantity and lack of performance should be followed by LESS resources not more every time we have an increase in crime.

      How do we get rid of criminals? 

      1. Start looking at all those who came here after Hurricane Ivan and still here, probably illegally and start deporting people.

      2. Make immigration department and persons with bogus work permits be held responsible for already adding to the unemployed, which will include illegals and lcoals withno respect for society.

      3. Work on hiring persons willing and able to work, offer seasonal contracts and place a moratorium on work permits in construction, hotel industry and cleaning so that residents here who want work will find work.

      4. Allow law abiding  individuals to have access to their own forms of protection (guns, tasers etc)

      5. implement the long overdue police complaints comission and start ending contracts of the officers in the service who can't conduct themselves professionally and yes have a style of policing that we can't encourage here because criminals will see them as a challenge or may be so used to that type they know hwo to get by them.

       

       

       

       

  15. Anonymous says:

    The police need guns, businesses need to have to protect themselves and security needs to also have guns and attack dogs. Two many places are robbed without anything happening to the robbers.

  16. Naya boy says:

    Unfortunately Cayman is  now reaping what ourselves and others are sowing for us all ? Yet still we have those amongst us who still believe some of those sowing are here for our sole benefit and will ehance our lives. Those advocating population expansion are fool hearty if not stupid and are oblivious to the basic principal of reasoning and balance. We are struggling now with socio & economic and crime problems adding to it is not going to offset it because someone's Hocus Pocus theory sounds like a solution. Our freedom is far more important than their good idea Cayman. I hope our current  Dosile PPM sheep have the good sense not to follow our previous  Greedy UDP pigs. 

  17. Anonymous says:

    One must remember Cayman lies in a Caribbean region of other 3rd world countries….

    With the police & governments inadequate measures to control crime, is this story really a surprise?

  18. Anonymous says:

    Every week it's something different, ala kebab, gas station, a person, wine store, 8 burglaries in 2 hours, jewelry store, a bank, a woman, a car with passenger too, broad daylight muggings, beaches, fish shack, coconut joes, west bay store, more houses,doesn't this tell you something commisioner ?????????

    easy pickings = so done not doing their job right? 

     

    I saw saw a news station taking pics of police pretending to walk in prospect as if they were on the beat, I neatly crashed my car laughing, I've never seen a police officer walking since, other that to on the run for a break lmao. Mess 

  19. Outside the Box Thinking says:

    Send all repeat/serious convicts for a stint in North Korea – a sort of an exchange program…  Not Cuba, not Jamaica – far too tame…  The repeat offenders would come back either cured or not at all.  Crime problem solved!  Are there any politicians out there who are brave enough to follow such a course of action?  Of course not.  They can't decide on a simple dump solution, never mind anything a little bit more complex… 

    When Alden talks about giving prisoners jobs as a means to keep convicts from reoffending, you know that he's as clueless as (my butt is pure and my mouth is clean) bozo number one – and if he's not clueless, he's talking out of his a$$.  These convicts have so many issues (mental/social/drug and alcohol abuse/lack of education) that the only jobs they qualify for, those paying $3.50 per day, they will not take.  Beside, even those jobs, according to the latest advertisements require a Master's in Nuclear Physics degree along with 25 years of experience on a nuclear space station.  Even if they would sign up for the program, they'd last a whole half a day before deciding that prison is a lot more fun than working.  At least in prison there is plenty of access to weed, without anyone molesting them about it.    

    More importantly, it's not the criminals that politicos are scared of (they live in secure mansions), it's the voting public they're afraid of offending by sending "my son who just got home with blood all over his shirt and a smoking gun in the back of his pocket  is an angel" on an exchange program to N. Korea.  Consequently, they'd rather let the local (and there are plenty of these) and foreign (read Jamaicans and South/Central Americans) gangsters terrorize the hard working people.  So what's going to happen is that the politicians together with the local and foreign hoodlums will turn these islands into another corrupt and crime-ravaged Jamaica, Trinidad, Guyana, etc.

    The fat lady has sung anyway.  It's not only that there isn't a politician out there who is brave enough to enact such a course of action, but the Brits wouldn't allow you to do so either.  If you were to separate (which is highly unlikely) you would go the path of every other Caribbean and African country, where enriching oneself while in office is far more important than ensuring good governance.  In either case, it's a lose, lose situation.  Good luck Cayman, you're going to need it – it's not going to be very pretty in a few years.  This is just the beginning.

    • Anonymous says:

      Are you seriously suggesting that this country should exchange Cayman criminals for North Korean criminals?

    • Anonymous says:

      Why in the world would North Korea want our criminals?

  20. Dr. Do -Little -Too -Late says:

    AND THEY THINK WE NEED A POPULATION OF  ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND ON THIS LITTLE ISLAND!     ISN'T THAT SPECIAL? 

    • anonymous says:

      That is the figure needed to make any tax implemented, worthwhile. Anything less than 80000 would cost more to implement and run than it would make.

      Either way, houses are being built everywhere.

  21. Fairminded says:

    All true Caymanians are saddened by the robberies this week.

     

    What also annoys me is that businesses, so far at least, are not offering any reward money Everything must be done by Government.  If every business in Cayman were to contribute $100 to such a fund and have it controlled by the Chamber of Commerce, some serious reward money could be offered to encourage informants to start tattling.

    It does not have to be Government alone in this problem solving.

    • Anonymous says:

      Isnt that called protection money.  You have just given the gangs an idea.  Get businesses to pay the criminals $100 to NOT rob their premises.

    • Anonymous says:

      Expats fault!

    • Anonymous says:

      Blame it on the UK!

    • Anonymous says:

      "All true Caymanians are saddened by the robberies this week." ?? What?? Only TRUE Caymanians are saddened? This saddens ALL law abiding residents on this little piece of sand!

      Stupid statement.

  22. Anon says:

    Crimes against tourists should carry an additional penalty, a premiuim if you will…due to the extra damage such crimes cause our Islands. I feel a double penalty is appropriate and reasonable, but would not be adverse to harsher sentences for any crime inflicted upon any visitor to our shores.

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh dear that would cause some problems like..you are treating crimes against tourists greater than crimes against our own people.  But you could grade it 

      crimes against tourists

      crimes against "real" caymanians

      crimes against paper Caymanians

      Crimes against expats

      Hahaha

  23. Anonymous says:

    A terrible case of verbal diarrhoea.  Indeed it might even be verbal ebola.

  24. Anonymous says:

    Sounds like the same two men all week and they have the same description of two men who did a series of armed robberies about two years ago and were never caught. Wonder if RCIPS has tried to review all armed robberies by two men of similar description and make a connection? Perhaps these are "periodic" robbers – local or visiting.

    • Anonymous says:

      Coconut Joe's has plenty of cameras. I am sure they were pointed on the cash register and the bar area. I am also pretty sure that even with their faces covered that people could recognize their own son, brother, friend or boyfriend,  if shown on the video. Big question is….will people turn the criminals in if they recognize them?

  25. A Bear-Faced-Lawyer says:

    Here's what I suggest to every business that is opened to late hours at night! Hire someone who has a black belt in martial arts and secretively carries a "powerful stun gun" have him working as a server or bus boy [naturally he'll be paid well] He will have a buzzer on his person that can be triggered from either point of sale [bar or restaurant]  immediately when someone comes in to rob the place, and "he" gets the alert. I would like  that person to be an ex marine or someone like that, and I'd venture to say, the police will not have to be asking people for info on what they look like. They would both be lying there waiting and in much pain.

    We have change our laws so that people, honest hard working people have the right to protect themselves  and their business from these "pieces of shit". I have been told  and I believe that not all of these are "locally grown excrement" but I that a lot of them  "and this I do believe" come in on the canoes from Jamaica at night and are connected with someone locally who puts them up for a few days while taking them on tours of certain certain businesses  during the day, so they can  [case] observe and gives info on certain particulars about the place they would not know. [Oh! I also believe that in some cases there are "employees or an employee" who could be a part of the set up] They then hit the joint!

    Unless they get a sudden phone call from "the insider" tipping them off  "that the "TAEKWONDO CLUB" might have stepped in for a bite. 

    Seriously Folks! We have to catch this thing in the bud and when we catch, the culprits who do this stuff,  I suggest before sending them to Hotel Northward,  take them out in the middle of town next to the court house on the day of their conviction, strip them down to their underwear, lash them to lamp post and have someone who has been robbed by any of them  whip their naked behind with a cow cod until they're no longer standing. Sound cruel!  Not at all!  These scum know exactly what they're doing and they laugh and brag among them selves about how scared their victims were during the robbery! These are animals folks.

    So stop feeling sympathy for these hardened criminals. They laugh at us when we do. These people have become experts in lying and deception and people fall for it. Lets stop being kind to these people who show no desire to change! God Help Us All!

    • Anonymous says:

      There are a number of jewellery stores in George Town that are in other cities in the Caribbean.

      In Mexico and other islands they got together and jointly hired ex-IDF Israeli security guards who were armed, and KNEW how to use their weapons safely.

      Diamonds International suggested to the local George Town jewellery stores that they should do the same, all contribute to the costs and have these skilled security guards who KNEW how to stop an armed robber cold.

      They were refused permission by Commissioner Baines.

       

    • Anonymous says:

      I think tern you need is "socio-path", and there are even more like that in the Civil Service, so good luck on thieves catching thieves. I know of 5 other families that have made the decision to leave, and it can not happen soon enough.

  26. Anonymous says:

    We won't be going back either.  Sounds wild down there!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Welcome to the wild wild west "bo-bo"! (jus' tryna make ya laugh)

  27. Anonymous says:

    Welcome to Jamaicayman

    • Anonymous says:

      Brought to us by Mac who granted 3000 citizenships so he could get more votes.

      • Anonymous says:

        And an immigration system that then let all the grantees children in and called them Caymanian with no checks and almost no enforcement.

        • Anonymous says:

          The "immigration system" did not make that determination. Cabinet led by McKeeva Bush did. 

  28. Anonymous says:

    Cayman better get a handle on the crime! This comes from someone who has vacationed there for the past 3 years and absolutely loves GC, I don't think we will be going back next summer. I am not going to risk my family's safety. The scary thing is Coconut Joes is one of our favorite spots! Really sad, but I feel bad for the locals. Wonderful people!

     

    • Also Anonymous says:

      Ditto from me!  We' ve been coming here for years but it has just gotten too scary for me.  I'm not bringing my family to a place where robberies are commonplace.   

      • anonymous says:

        It has always been like this so don't worry yourself. Come back and drink swanky.

        • Anonymous says:

          I think you meant to say "I have always been like this".  That is why people are not comeing back.

        • Anonymous says:

          True dat me bruddah. I've been here since the early 90's and there were always break-ins, rapes, robberies etc.. Way more than the city in the US that I came from in relation to the number of inhabitants. Most all kept out of the papers but that doesn't mean they didn't happen. We always heard them down the Marl Road. Remember the poor Irish lad that was hiding in the bush from some teens that chased him with their dog and beat him with chains? I do.  But it didn't make me want to leave. Not yet. And I've been broken into several times.

          But I'm still here.

          People are lulled into a false sense of safety and security because it seems like such a lovely quiet little island where nothing bad would happen. But as another poster put it, "Cayman lies in a Caribbean region of other 3rd world countries" but it has many folk with 3rd world attitudes. West Indian is West Indian. This is the area that we live in. The people that we live amongst. Most Caribbean countries have had bars on their windows for years.

          Anyway, this crime 'wave' is nothing new. We just be hidin it from you tourists out there.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes – we've stayed away for a couple years now as a result of the crime.  Bloody shame that, as Cayman was once so nice to visit.

    • WannabeBracca says:

      In the Hospitality industry here, most of the "wonderful people" are expats. 

    • Anonymous says:

      well, you can always visit Cayman Brac.  

  29. Anonymous says:

    I echo another posters sentiments here; The Police know who many of these thugs are…trouble is with their evidence gathering, prosecution and of course the courts clogged beyond capacity. 

    The glaring absence of Police presence out in the general public is also a contributing factor. 

  30. Dreadlock Holmes says:

    Maybe their bank card pins weren't working and they'll pay it back. Then this stickup won't be legally wrong. But morally wrong.

  31. Whodatis says:

    The FCO / UK controls our police force, therefore controls our response to crime in the country.

    The Cayman Islands is fast approaching the inevitable reality of independence – whether some of us want it or not.

    Never in British colonial history has Great Britain not covertly destabilized and manipulted a (non-White) territory in order to ensure a chaotic political and economic future for the people.

    Clearly it cannot be "proven" to be the case in this instance, but allow me to demonstrate how, even with the clearest of evidence, it would be impossible to get the British officials (and majority of its people) to admit this is indeed the situation.

    • Irregardless of which of the many clear historical and documented examples of the above one refers to – there will follow a guaranteed chorus of denial and chastisement

    Unfortunately for them, some of us rely on history as evidence and pay no attention to the prejudiced naysayers in our midsts – for their jeers are without substance.

    Therefore, whether orchestrated or merely coincidental, the breakdown of civility in the Cayman Islands falls right in place with the forte of the UK. I doubt the FCO officials are very bothered about what is taking place in Cayman in regards to the rise in crime.

    *The RCIPS is in effect a part of the problem as the powers behind it are apathetic to its performance.

     – Whodatis

    • Anonymous says:

      Irregardless ain't no werd!

      • Whodatis says:

        Fabulous contribution.

        Your mother would be so proud.

        • Anonymous says:

          So, I am sure, would yours, irregardless as to whether she could spell it or not.

          • Whodatis says:

            Lol!!

            Ok, my hands are up – you win that one poster!

            (That was funny as heck!)

            Okay, now back to the issue at hand …

            😉

            *Btw, "irregardless" is in fact a word. Granted, it is subject to much heated debate and is often considered "incorrect", irregardless – it is indeed a word.

            • Anonyanmous says:

              Whodatis, you're smart as an Eagle don't waste your time with a Thanksgiving Turkey.  In your defense which you need none I will leave this Confucius quote to all the Doneys that try to shoot you down.

              “He Who Knows And Knows That He Knows Is A Wise Man – Follow Him;
              He Who Knows Not And Knows Not That He Knows Not Is A Fool – Shun Him”

               

            • Anonymous says:

              Whodatis, pay them no mind. They are simple minded, do you expect better from the posters of this website. 90% are ignorant and a waste of space.

              Whodatis, IS entitled to share his opinion just like the rest of ya'll!

              P.S "Irregardless" is a word when used in the right context.

    • Fred the Piemaker says:

      And we have nothing to do with it at all, of course.  So easy to blame Mother, than accept responsibility.  You sound like my teenage daughter. 

       

      Sure the UK appoints the Commissioner and dictates the policing budget (which is massive), but hell, who is actually committing the crimes? It’s not the police – and a glance at the stats for the population of Northward will tell you that it’s not a bunch of expats in there.  And who elects the politicians that fail to take politically brave measures that would address some of the causal factors.  Sure ain’t the UK that does that.  And who keeps their mouths shut when they know exactly who the gangbangers are?  Guess what, that’s us again.

       

      Do you honestly think independence will make this better?  How exactly?  The Premier will produce a police force that gets off its ass and does something?  If they cannot fix the dump, resolve a cruise terminal, deal with minimum wage, you really think they can deal with this?  And where exactly do you see any evidence of independence producing a reduction in crime.  It sure as hell didn’t work out for Bahamas, Bermuda or Jamaica, did it?   

      • Whodatis says:

        Kindly advise the room of a country where the police is not primarily addressed when it comes to fighting crime.

        Yes, I thought so – (crickets).

        You are intentionally missing the point(s) of my post – and that fact supports my argument(s) far better than could any further elaboration on my part.

      • anonymous says:

        Or Trinidad.

    • Naysayer says:

      Sorry Whodatis, but you lost me at "Irregardless".

       

    • boy do I feel dumb says:

      Thank you for that Dr Who. We are suitably impressed.

    • anonymous says:

      I do not think it is run by the country you suggest.

    • anonymous says:

      So when the gunfight occurred at the hospital, the bank robberies and the headline "highest murder rate in a decade" all occurred in 2004, who was it then? 

      The British? The FCO?

      The cycles continue, roughly every five years and the only thing that is consistent are the people held in Northward and a section of community that either condones it or pretend that it didn't happen. Crime has always spiralled.

      It has always been there, the burglaries, the shootings, the gang wars and the corruption that fuels it.

      The difference is nowadays, more is reported or comes to light and if it is unethical, it doesn't count. Even the occurrence of sexual offences are now coming to light which before were hidden under the family rug.

      I don't think that it is a conspiracy as you say. I just think that there is a nucleus of the population here that is rotten to the core with no morals, ethics or laws applied to them in the past.

      I will agree with you on two points though. I do believe that self determination is on the horizon and it is highly unlikely that it will be by the choice of the people. When this occurs, you are right, the UK and its taxpayers will not give this a econd thought or concern.

      This ship is indeed steering into journeyman waters.

       

      • Anonymous says:

        BUT…..was it ever targeted against tourists? It seems lately that it has been drifting toward that population when before it was more local.

        i.e. the banks (local), the shootings (local), robberies of stores( local), gang wars (local), home invasions (local)   but now…it is stick ups at restaurants involving tourists, too.

         

        • anonymous says:

          I believe that there were tourists in the banks you refer to and some offences were captured on tourist cameras. I don't think that tourists need to be shot at or held up to develop a fear of another countries crime.

    • Anon says:

      Just "regardless" will do. Irregardless is a double negative. 

      • Anonymous says:

        Irregardless is not a double negative, when used in the right context it is grammatically acceptable.

        Sorry.

    • Whodatis says:

      I posted a reply to a similar comment earlier – it can be found below. Kindly regard as my response to your post.

      Also, don't you find it sad that you wouldn't dare to challenge my assertions regarding the purposeful destabilsation of territories leading up to independence throughout British colonial history?

      (Actually, never mind. If you possess what appears to be the typical attitude here on CNS, it is very likey you do not.)

      *I see you trying to slither away poster, but I got you by the tail – flail as you wish – it is what it is.

       

    • Anonymous says:

      You write so well Whodatis. Unfortunately you do bugger all otherwise to improve the situation. And not just you. The voters at least should be protesting, voting in law makers tough on crime…. But that's probably too much like hard work and new fridges are more important than Cayman, right???

      • Whodatis says:

        Re: "The voters at least should be protesting, voting in law makers tough on crime…."

        Thank you poster, for that awesome demonstration of how to completely miss the point of a post to which one responds. Honestly, you're just outta this world bub!

        Anyway, care to speak on the central issue of UK tactics of destabilisation in the territories? No? Didn't think so. You seem to be more interested in talking about fridges and such.

        Nevertheless, as bad a picture that you and your colleagues wish to paint of Cayman, we still have thousands of individuals just like yourself who are willing to give up their birthright and remain in Cayman until their dying day.

        It must truly suck to be you – and worse to be from wherever you hail.

        That pretty much says it all really.

        • Gordie says:

          Sorry Whodatis – he's right and you're wrong. It's Caymanian bad boys doing the crime, stop blaming the UK for Chrissakes.

          And your parting remarks to the writer –  you are incredibly bitter. And that is what says it all.

        • Anonymous says:

          U.K. = BAD.  Caymanians = not able to take any responsibility for them selves or their actions.  We got it.  Explains everything.

        • Anonymous says:

          This time "whodatis" is accurate. I 100% agree with the original post and the second.

           

           

        • Anonymous says:

          Whodatis-saying the same thing time and time again does not make it any more accurate or right. Every serious issue on here is met by your standard ripost "Its the UK, Its expats, its the War Criminal Blair/Cameron whoever happens to be in charge". You seriously overate the importance to the UK of these islands. In your dream world its the UK running this place-in the real world its Caymanian MLA's. You want to do something useful, go join the policeforce and start catching the criminals yourself. Always easier to blame someone else than do something about it!!

  32. Anonymous says:

    Cayman is obviously  easy pickings for these thugs. And I am sorry to say that eventually someone is going to get hurt or killed. And honestly I hope it's one of these no good scumbags, both if we are lucky. 

     

     

  33. Anonyanmous says:

    This is how it began in Jamaica… is there a pattern here? time to get this kind of behaviour under control but providing jobs for the unemployed natives because as Yogi Berra said "You ain't seen nothing yet".  To see the full picture visit any community in inner city Kingston and see our stark reality in a few years if those that we elect don't act soon but putting the proper lawsin place to stop this free fall into poverty thus crime.

    • Anonymous says:

      Thanks again Mac for importing voters for us to support and then watch them ruin our country like they did their own   Mac remember this is what your greed has done  to Cayman.

      • Anonymous says:

        I suppose MacKeeva imported the caymanians that committing crime too, and no I am not a Mac fan nor am I an expat, I am local.  As usual it seem easier to blame Mackeeva for everything, even though he was not the only one giving status out. Many of the others had their list of people who they put on the list and who got status, so all should be held accountable for the role they played.

        We as voting caymanians, residents etc all need to reflect on all the areas to date where the past  and presents elected governments made things slide. To date they are yet to follow through on majority if not all of their plans. Plans such as: to decrease crime, solve the dump issue, labour  issues via provision of more jobs for Caymanians etc…all this they promised so we would vote them in. 

        The list goes onand on, and not a damn thing has changed, it keeps getting worst. What does that tell you? That they are all the same and that party politricks is not good for this country. They rarely speak out against each other with exception of the few like Suckoo and Eden for specific topics. Archer is doing a great job I believe but I haven't heard him speak out against anything which I thought and believe he stood for.

        Was oh so easy to spout all the platitudes prior to election about MacKeeva and his party and how they were spineless and would not stand up to him, same can be said here. As for the one man one vote, just wait until that comes into play. Would be and politicians will then be able to buy thier votes  easier if what was said about previous elections was factual, as the areas will be even smaller and votes  buying much easier to control for those running with the money.

        Cayman we need to all wake up, stand up for integrity and hold all of our politicians accountable. Look at where our country is today?  Drastic changes need to come about like yesterday, and even then….we will not be able to save it all. I am afraid it is too far gone now, but hopefully we can improve on many areas.

        We need individuals in power with the intelligents but most importantly, the integrity and spine  willing to stand up for what is in the best interest of our country. Individuals  who are willing to speak out nd do what is right and work together regardless of which party they are in. Should not matter if they ran as an independant or with a party.  Loyalty to your country first not government.

        Then us Caymanians, born and paper alike, and all residents working and living here, need to speak out, and call out our family members and friends who we know are involved in criminal behaviour  and who some of us harbour and cover for. This will greatly aid police if we work together as a country. We need to also stop supporting the lazy ones who refuse to to out and work but live off social services and who contribute to draining our funds that should be there for indivudals who are truly in need. Start talking sense into family members and friends who breeding like rabbits having children they are unable to care for. Children are wonderful but only when you can afford them. All of these things and many many more have put this country in the sad and frightening state of affairs that we sadly face today.

        Until drastic measure take place and are enforced and consistent, nothing will change in this country. THE RUIN OF A COUNTY BEGINS IN THE HOME OF IT'S PEOPLE, AND OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REAMAIN SILENT ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTER.

         

         

         

         

  34. Anonymous says:

    I can imagine the Trip Advisor reviews.  "The coconut shrimp were lovely, but make sure not to wear your best watch just in case it is one of the "gun crime special" nights".

  35. Ram Tough in Dodge City says:

    Call Baines wid he new suv he will sort it out for unnah! 

  36. PPM Time Again says:

    Look at the awful mess this little place is in? All these foreign dudes running round here wid guns, tasers, pepper spray more vehicles and sun glasses and more gear than "Special forces" and we have guys with t-shirts wrapped around their faces robbing people and tourist  and businesses with impunity.  What a disgrace but it speak volumes about those in charge i guess another meritorious award is in order for our Great Commissioner of police and just maybe he can run over these jokers with his SUV again. This is paradise for our colonial bosses no worries mon the government has to support us no matter what happens. After all we installed them you know!

  37. Anonymous says:

    Ok, this is getting out of control now, how come the police aren´t able to do a sting operation with their own officers to get these two guys e.g. bait car, more likely the same from the Prospect shop Robebery, Beaches,  Da Fish Shack..etc

    • Anonymous says:

      How could police do a sting operation when they would have no idea where the thugs would hit next?

      I think it is time that the people who know who is doing the robbing start snitching. People know who these two are. If they don't tell, they are just as guilty. These two are someone's sons, brothers, friends, boyfriends…..keeping quiet just let's the crime and the destruction of the island continue.

  38. Anonymous says:

    Wake up, Cayman!  When is enough ENOUGH!  How blind are you?

     

  39. Cheese face says:

    I think it's time we made a statement here, we need to let our elected officials know that this is not good enough. I want armed police patrolling the tourist strip 24-7. I would also like to see us reaching out to the UK to help stem this bullshit. This island is very quickly turning to shit and it doesn't have to.

  40. Anonymous says:

    PPM at the helm, what's the worse that could happen?

  41. Anonymous says:

    Lets give Baines some type of award for being the big man on the social circuit.

  42. Anon says:

    This is ridiculous now! 

  43. Anonymous says:

    This is the end.

  44. Anonymous says:

    Well! How do you avoid all the usual cliches? All it will take is one slight scared itchy trigger finger, one dead tourist (apologies to locals but let's be realistic, this country's economy depends on tourism and finance), result – one dead Cayman economy. Have been here long enough to know the Police know who these people are, but they can't prosecute effectively because the judiciary is so clogged up. Cayman be gone real soon.

  45. Anonymous says:

    I usually do not travel out at night with much money, my jewelry that I travel with is not worth  much money, BUT…..my peace of mind is worth millions. I have travelled to your shores for decades for just that. This is just not cool!

  46. Anonymous says:

    This is out of desperation I don’t care who disagrees with me:

    Rent due mortgage to pay facing foreclosures
    No electricity no water no food hungry kids
    Govt not controlling the cost of living
    Cuc robbing us grocery stores robbing us gas stations robbing us and govt increased fees they are also robbing us Cayman is losing its prestige daily these r dire times sad times if alden doesn’t get his ship in order mutiny / civil unrest will soon erupt. Alden the people are fed up do ur damn job!

  47. Anonymous says:

    Meanwhile…Baines was sipping a glass of bubbly in Mexico with Duncan plotting another McKeeva coup d'etat.

    When are we going to kick his a$$ of this island and get some real leadership in the Police Force to deal with these thugs?

    • Anonymous says:

      After we accept our own responsibility  in the situation. After all, while a lot  of this crime might be involving others from regions close or far; I am sure we have our own home grown segment  in it as well.

      So let's address the social issues that WE are responsible for creating. Then we will look to others to blame. 

      In all honesty though, I feel it is too late either way. 

      • Anonymous says:

        Can we at least all agree that foreign criminals should be deported and new ones prevented from coming?