Ex-cop guilty of murder

| 01/12/2014

(CNS): A former RCIPS police officer, who was on the payroll until last week, has been convicted of murder in Jamaica and jailed for 25 years. Tyrone Findlay was found guilty alongside another former Jamaican police officer, Leonard Lindsay, of shooting and killing a manin 2010 when they were serving in the Jamaican police force in the district of Manchester and supposedly investigating a robbery. Findlay was recruited into the RCIPS in 2011 and in a shocking revelation it is understood that he was serving in the armed unit, despite the allegations. He was formally suspended from the RCIPS just a few months later on full pay, but despite enquiries made by CNS to the RCIPS about the issue, we have received no comment from the local police as to how this came about.

Other police sources, however, told CNS that Findlay started working here as a full time police officer earlier this year, even though he was facing murder charges for shooting Anthony ‘Tony’ Richards in Alligator Pond on New Year’s Day 2010 while on duty, in what was said to be an execution style killing.

Although the RCIPS has not responded to enquiries made by CNS, David Baines, the police commissioner, did speak to The Cayman Compass and told them that Findlay had received “exemplary references from senior law enforcement officials in Jamaica” prior to being hired in Cayman. The top cop also denied knowing about the charges when Findlay was recruited to the local armed unit and given access to a gun.

However, once the revelations about the killing came to light and Findlay was charged, he was suspended and remained on the payroll with the RCIPS even though he had been on staff less than three months. Baines told the local newspaper that the government was obliged to continue paying him. Having been suspended from duty just two months after he was recruited here, he was eventually put back behind a desk this year in a non-operational role until his trial, according to Baines. This was said to have been an effort to get some value for the public purse, which had been paying the officer not to work for almost three years. 

Baines did not say why the officer could not be sacked in the wake of the charges against him, given the circumstances and the fact that he was still in his probationary period at the time.

Category: Crime

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  1. Anonymous says:

    How many of these people vented their outrage on Joey Ebanks after he was convicted?.

  2. Anonymous says:

    WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Anonymous says:

    What do you expect when you recruit cops from one of the most crime ridden and corrupt countries on the face of the planet.  Is the theory that they must be really good at their jobs because they have seen so much crime?  Or is it a case of maybe one of the reasons that Jamaica is such a disaster is because many of the cops there are so corrupt and or innept and that at this point its completley ingrained into their society.  I have had several dealings with many of the Jamaican cops reporting various crimes and besides the blantant incompetance (such as not even being able to write a simple report) is the apathetic attitude that theft and burglary just aren't that big a deal, ie if someone isn't bleeding in the street then its not a real crime.  As others have stated, I agree that CoP Bainnes is a complete failure and should resign or be fired.

  4. Anonymous says:

    This is shameful. Even worst that we have been paying him for 3 years….I don't understand this. As an ex-pat hired by Gov't, you are on contract. So say his contract was for 3 years, I am certain that within the contract there are many clauses in which Gov't could have let him go. If not, then that's a bigger shame on Gov't. In the private sector, you are on contract for a period and when that period is over and they don't want to renew, well that's it.

  5. Anonymous says:

    These officers are some of the same who are arresting teens for a marijuana joint.

    Something seriously twisted with our sense of "good government"!

  6. Anonymous says:

    Something doesn't make sense with the eplanation from Baines (that he had to put this Officer on full paid required leave….after only two months employment) Surely the probation period for Police hires are at least six months. So once Baines became aware (even though he would have been aware before hire…had proper background checks been done) the Baines should have let him go!

    Instead he pays him for three years….and now refers to him as "an exemplary Officer"?

    Nothing like "accountability" of "good governance" going on here!

  7. Anonymous says:

    I wouldn't be surprised if I heard that he is transferred back to Cayman to serve his sentence at her Majesty's prison……… 

  8. Anonymous says:

    I can’t believe this, I mean the man was kept on the job after they found this out, why not suspend him without pay?

    As we know there was a Caymanian charged with GBH, found not guilty and is still on suspension, Baines runs a man over and yes we caught the robbers, but no suspension given.

    Let look at Jamaica, not even the USA Government will assist their police force due to corruption, they do however provide training and funds for the Jamaican defence force. So why hire police from that country?

    In closing it is time our senior government officials and MLAS address the RCIPS problem now!!!!

  9. George Towner to dah bone says:

    What is the RCIPS coming too?  Hiring an officer from another jurisdiction and we didn't know of a pending murder case against him, looks very bad on their vetting process. If I was the person doing the vettng, I would have dug deeper into his background, even as far as speaking to their department of public prosecution, if they had such an department and  see if he had any skeletons hidden in his closet, with cob webs covering it. The RCIPS actions were very reckless and someone need to held accountable for this blunder, which would be no other than our Commisioner, Mr David Baines. Her Excellency, Ms. Helen Kilpatrick, go get him! I think it's time for her to make heads roll inside the RCIPS and send the top COP packing back to England. Bon voyage!

  10. Anonymous says:

    Two things, first, any recommendation coming from the same person/group of persons that vouched for this officer should not be accepted ever again in cayman, plain and simple. Second, CHANGE THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT that forced you to keep paying an alleged murderer for so long. you did it once, if it happens to you again after knowing this, well, you should be brought to justice as well… for been a fool

  11. Sir Henry Morgan says:

    #BainesOut

  12. Dallas Muppets says:

    Still waiting for the “gala organisers of policemens balls” to put their unique brand of spin on this……

  13. Anonymous says:

    Let us look at the facts: 1) when he was hired by the RCIP he did not have a record and had not been charged for murder. 2) as soon as he was charged he was supended. Our own premier was not even suspended from his job when he was charged for corruption. It does set a bad example

  14. Anonymous says:

    Not condoning McKeeva Bush's actions nor supporting all of his views but at this point there may be some credence in his (and other insiders') claims that the UK appears to be sabotaging our stability. I cannot see any benefit to gain by such a tactic but then again colonialism was never rational. 

    Having contributed to the decimation of our financial system by requiring our signature on every tax and info-sharing agreement (while ignoring the same requirements on our European competitors), our UK puppeteers and our local UK reps (to whom the Commissioner reports directly) are doing nothing about improving the state of our national security and condoning Baines' lack of performance. One can almost believe the sabotage conspiracy theory.

    • Anonymous says:

      You mean the tax and information sharing agreements that McKeeva criticised the PPM for not signing enough of?

  15. Anonymous says:

    United Kingdom security policies, conferred upon the Cayman Islands, require that every person who has access to restricted areas of ports of entry require a background check before their employment, regardless of employer, is confirmed. Are we to believe that our national "security" force, RCIPS, does not require same??!! If that is the case, why not? Further, if it's not the case, it should be – effective immediately!! At the least it's simple common sense,at the worst it's a matter of public safety!

    Governor Kilpatrick, Franz Manderson, Eric Bush, David Baines you are challenged to implement improved vetting processes in RCIPS without delay!! Eric, you are a part of the team who interviews prospective RCIPS officers. You have failed. 

  16. Anonymous says:

    It is appalling that Commissioner Baines has gone on record describing this murderer as "an exemplary professional", "motivated" and "committed"!! Baines should offer the Caymanian public an apology! The arrogance! Only in Cayman do public figures gloat and try to justify their failures instead of apologizing to the public. Anywhere else a public apology would be the least expected – resignation would be required, especially with RCIPS' track record and legitimate performance concerns expressed by the public!!!

    What has to be done before Baines resigns??!! What do we, the public, have to do?? RCIPS continues to distance itself from the community by its ineptitude and arrogant attitudes. The only result is the further breakdown of policing and more public distrust and disrespect towards RCIPS.

    Her Excellency and our "leaders" should see this and require Baines' departure!!

    • Anonymous says:

      I absolutely agree that Baines should resign for not Apologising for the  ineptitude or cover up by the RCIPS, or both.  

      In many respects this story does not meet the smell test.

      1. Don't tell me that theRCIPS does not have better background checking procedures on police officers coming from other territories.  EVery HR officer knows that recommendations are notoriously unreliable. If they cannot do better than this, someone's head needs to roll.

      2. To swallow the unbelievable story, to be kind, that Findlay did not know he was under investigation is just plain ludicrous.  He must have known the incident was being investigated and not having been exonerated he could not represent the he was in the clear.

      3. To continue to pay a new officer who has been less than transparent is just utterly unacceptable.  

      4. And worst of all, To suggest that if Findlay is cleared on appeal he could be rehired (see Compass story) is just plain crazy!   

      The question, who is protecting this guy?  Someone on either end or on both ends is protecting Findlay.  That usually means a favour being called in.

      this whole debacle is disgusting and sickening — and then to add insult to injury the Compass in a news story uses opinions, which should be reserved for the editorial column.  Among those      "(Findlay) apparently thinking" he had been exonerated and characterizing the case as an incident "in the line of duty".  

      How can the Compass characterize The murder and violence committed in this case as being in the line of duty when a court of law has unanimously ruled otherwise.

      does not the Compass respect the judicial systems of countries?  

      And for the Commissioner of Police to participate in this disrespect of Justice is just plain wrong.

      Baines deserves to go, but Caymanians just don't have the strength to demand it in ways that can have an impact .   

  17. Whodatis says:

    The implications and potential ramifications of this are and could have been incredibly dangerous.

    It is safe to assume that it was by way of some significant corruption on the Jamaican side of the equation that this was able to happen. Havingsenior, armed, and tremendously corrupt police personnel that are capable of MURDER in one's police service is perhaps the worst thing that could happen to a community.

    Someone MUST be held accountable for exposing the Caymanian public to such risk and dangers. However, we know that someone will not be CoP Baines as he has been bestowed the untouchable "UK / FCO privilege".

    This is an absolute disgrace – I honestly do not know how some people sleep at night. Nowever, one would have to give a sincere damn about the people of the Cayman Islands in order to be impacted by these developments.

    • Anonymous says:

      I blame the premier at the time this guy was hired, but then again I remember a time when people where innocent until proven guilty (unless you are Jamaican of course)

    • Anonymous says:

      Why don't YOU take responsibility for something? Just once. 

  18. Anonymous says:

    Sadly it seems that in recent years RCIPS has become a convenient dumping ground for officers from other jurisdictions who have crossed the line and been quietly fired or 'retired'. They come here with glowing references that in reality have only been written to ease their way out of whatever trouble they've got themselve in. 

  19. Anonymous says:

    If a Caymanian gets caught with a spliff as a teenager he is black-balled, and trhown by the wayside in Cayman for life.

    But if an expat murders somebody in their own country, they can apply and get a hired as a POLICE MAN earning a government salary, healthcare and pension.

    This place makes me sick to my stomach.

  20. Anonymous says:

    epic fcking fail. 

  21. Otherview says:

    Do the RCIPS recruits have to submit a police clearance when applying for a work permit?

  22. Anonymous says:

    I couldnt sleep last night after reading this news. I just cant imagine that this has happened and came to light. Can CNS or someone perhaps our good ole Mr Ezzard tell me whether it is possible to take those c who mrecommended this Police for a job in our Force to Court. They should be held accountable for the three years that our Government had to pay him, that adds up to be quite alot of money. I'm just wandering why did it take so long for this man to be prosecuted, or was it because they were trying not to and someone did not get paid and then he was charged. I do not trust anything from there. Anyhow I am just glad that he wont be around anymore, however how many more like him is in Cayman. It is worth investigating. Just start looking at who the recommendations are coming from Eric. Why not bringing back more Bajans and Belizarians and furthermore some of our old repitable Cayman Police if no more than for them to work in the Offices as advisors and trainers for our very own Caymanians. On another note there are some strange lookinjg securities around now a day and these are the most robberies that we have ever had. In fact years ago we had no robberies happening. We have some retired past the 60 yrs old good ole Cayman Police such as Kenton Ebanks, Luis Berry, Burmon Scott, Darrell Tibbetts and the list goes on. Just pass by the Station by Joses gas station and look at our Police cars. They are dying for some TLC. It would be nice if someone would volunteer to clean them. Its all about a pay check no respect whatsoever. Last but not least, why do we have to bring in police and then train them? If recruiting one would think that they are already highly trained.

  23. Anonymous says:

    First of all the rcip has a 2 year probation period. There was plenty of time to can him. But what gets me is that the rcips paid this man for nothing for almost three years in light of an offense of great magnitude, but yet I have seen caymanian officers dismissed for traffic offenses…… Cayman needs Patriotic Caymanians at the head of every department and sub-department. If we do not unite as a people and take an interest in our future, as individuals we will never succeed. If we don’t take care of eachother then who will?

  24. Anonymous says:

    As a former senior police officer and RCIPS recruiter, I never 100% trusted a written job reference and a police record from Jamaica or elsewhere. I always backed this documentation up by utilizing Special Branch locally; who in conjunction worked closely alongside of Special Branch in other police forces in the Comomwealth. If there is a department that can give you "true insight" on a police officer, it's Special Branch. One of our best Special Branch officers in the RCIPS was Chief Inspector Patrick Beersingh, who now heads up the Drugs & Serious Crimes Task Force – and has been there for some time. 

    If C/Inspector Beersingh has been in Special Branch at the time in question and had been consulted by the RCIPS training department, I'm 100% sure; this officer would not have got a job interview, much less be hired in the RCIPS and ended up our Uniform Support Group (USG) with a firearm.  

    It's amazing what Special Branch in the Commonwealth can "dig up" on police officers, politicians, other public officials and members of the public.    

    Obviously, the RCIPS training dept who is operated directly by Baines and his cohorts from the UK, don't have a clue about background investigations of police officers in our region or elsewhere.

    They also need to focus closely on theirUK counterparts who are coming into the RCIPS with certain so called credentials – but when tested before a court, they are flately rejectd by our Grand Court Judes. 

    I know of a certain officer who is heading back to the UK because it was reported that he was an expert in a certain field and when a practical examination was conducted, it blowed up in their faces. It's a good thing proper safety precautions were conducted or we would have seen it on the 6 o'clock news or read it on CNS.  

       

    • anonymous says:

      Special Branch? In the Cayman Islands? Don't make me laugh out loud.

      • Anonymous says:

         

        Special Branch is a "rather secretive department" in all Commonweath Police Forces and many police officers dismiss this department as non-essential. If the President of USA, US Secretary of State, King of Saudi Arabia, Queen of England, King of Jordan or another VIP was to consider visiting the Cayman Islands; the first department that a foreign government would reach out to in terms of intelligence and personal security of their VIP's, would be Special Branch. 

        A lot goes on "behind close doors" that regular police officers and the general public don't know nothing about. Many VIPs who vists the Cayman Islands on a regular basis; no one knows about their visit until after they have departed or in many cases, you willnot even know that they or their families visited our shores.

        Hence, if you are going to hire a foreign police officer, Special Branch is one of most important  departments to consult, in police background investigations; before employment is considered. I'm 100% sure this was not done in this particular case, with extensive overseas enquiries. This opens up our country to a serious liability.

        Can you imagine what would have happended if this officer had so much as accidently killed or injured a Caymanian, resident or a tourist with a police firearm; and it was revealed what transpired in Jamaica within the past 12 months; and a live investigation was still ongoing at the time ?? 

        Hiring a Police Officer from Jamaica or elsewhere, who was subject in a shooting death within 12 months of his appication for enlistemnt in the RCIPS and with an on-going investigation in that country; tells me that the RCIPS Training Department (who is headed by a UK Inspector) DID NOT DO HIS JOB !!! He is a FAILURE plain and simple and should be removed forthwith. 

        Should Commissioner Baines be held accountable? Yes !! Will he be held accountabe ?? The answer is a "Big No". Why you might ask ?? He is from the UK and is protected by those from the UK. Is Baines Commander in Chief of the RCIPS or is he a name and title without responsibilty and accountabiliy to the citizens of this counrty?? You tell me !!

        My "A$$ whould have been mowed grass" if this type of incident had happended on my watch. The Commissioner at the time, would also be up "SH&* Creek with a paddle as well".   

        Time for Baines and his cohorts to leave this beloved country. How in the world did this man get an additional four year contact is beyond me. I'm not blaming all expats for this contact – as I know we have some Caymanians who love to absolutely kiss a certain type of A$$ to make themselves feel important in society. This is why we Caymanians cannot excell in our own coutry, because we keep shooting ourselves in the foot, over and over again; despiteseeing all the pictures of the wall in plaint sight.  

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

             

         

    • Anonymous says:

      Hear, hear!

    • Anonymous says:

      I find it interesting and concerning that CNS initially posted then removed my earlier comment. I assume it was because it was perhaps slightly critical of a Snior RCIPS officer named in these comments (NOT Baines).

      So it is okay for everyone to criticise BAINES but criticising another senior RCIPS officer isnt?

      If i were a cynic i would think it was perhaps because the officer i criticised wasnt from the UK…….

       

      Just sayin…

      CNS Note: I realy wouldn't read too much into the deleted or not published blogs if I were you. We delete stuff by accident all the time or because of a gazillion other reasons and when the bloggers are as prolific as they are at present we are more likely to delete by accident than the other way round. I know not everyone has love for us but I'm sure most of our readers wouldn't want to give  'them' an excuse to shut us down.

  25. Soldier crab says:

    Absolutely appalling! How many more are amongst us with a similar background? We hungry and can't get an opportunity, yet we hire criminals right in our RCIPS? Mr. Premier something wrong with this picture?

  26. Anonymous says:

    Yet I’m a born caymanian had all the requirements and their h.r. Said becuz I was 39 I couldn’t qualify for the post! Imagine that! But I guess I need to kill somebody around this place or rob cuc for robbing me and i’ll fit right in GOD knows my heart is in the right place but man I’m so pissed!

  27. Anonymous says:

    is it any wonder our poor country is in such a messwhen we have a police force that hires individuals such as this and then to top it of the QC's are the laughing stock with the mess ups that occur in the Dept of Public Prosecutions.  God save us!!

  28. Dr. Do - Little - Too - Late says:

    I have a question! Is it possible that corruption has infiltrated the RCIP to such an extent, that certain police officers within our police force who hail from the same jurisdictions where this officer was recruited from, who are now working along with corrupt officials in that same jurisdictions who are writing glowing recommendations for these recruits, and those same recommendations are then ratified by some high-up officer within the RICP who was then given the "very important job" of vetting these reports?

    I have been told by a friend from Jamaica how corrupt the police system is in that country. How they take bribes to writing clean police records for people who come herelooking for work. Not just for people like this police officer! My friend also made this remark, it does not surprise him that these things go on in Cayman, when "WE" seem to continually rely on foreign nationals to do for us what we as Caymanians should be doing for ourselves. And I agree with that 100%. We have become so mesmerized by our so called prosperity [financial & otherwise] that we basically let things run themselves. 

    So I beg you Mr. Eric Bush! Let us start hiring and promoting Camanians in the RCIP and not listen to those foreign nationals who try to make us believe we can't handle the job! This is our Island and I'd rather put my trust in a Caymanian than someone of the calibre of the police officer which is the subject of this article.

    WAKE UP CAYMAN!

    • Anonymous says:

      Hear Hear.  You could hire Mac Bush to run the RCIPS then everything would be fine and dandy because he is Caymanian and without a police record!

  29. Anonymous says:

    Please fire Baines! That's all!

  30. Anonymous says:

    Seriously after reading the report on CNS, MR Baines you need to resign.  No police officer from a Caribbean country just walks into the police force just like that.  He was brought in on the force, by some one here.  SomeHg Raking Officer I am sure. Just like the Lodge, you just do not walk in.   This should be further investigated.   HANDS P DONT SHOOT.!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Somehow I dont think he is the only bad police officer. Too many criminals getting away on this small island.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hands up don't shoot, is kind of a silly campaign, considering it not even based on what actually happened in Ferguson. Just sayin. 

  31. Anonymous says:

    This is very sad. Our own RCIP has no ability to even investigate who they hire.

  32. Anonymous says:

    Again accountability needs to be enforced!!! Background checks??? Who failed to do their job to ensure that the indiviual had no ongoing/pending criminal charges against them.

    When a Caymanian/Status Holder applies for a job locally, the background checks are so extensive that the only thing left for them to ask is "when were you conceived, place and time". But when an expat applies for a position, once they have exemplary references no background checks are required. That is unacceptable!!! 

    Background checks should be compulsary it doesn't matter how highly recommended the person is or who recommended the person, it should be across the board for Caymanians and expats. 

    So disheartening and to think that there is so much crime on our little Islands and the RCIPS is who are responsible for protecting us when they have criminals on their staff and we the people are paying them.

    God help us all!!! 

     

  33. Anonymous says:

    Cayman's population wont have to worry about seeing this mana again. Police and jail in Jamaica do not go hand in hand. Oh well, Atleast he enjoyed his last couple years of freedom.

    • Anonymous says:

      At the expense of a suitable, clean-record, young Caymanian, I'm sure.

      What a complete disgrace! 

       

  34. Anonymous says:

    What attrocious recruitment practices! What is Baines thinking?

    What a complete waste ofresources by CIG. And endangering our islands in the process!

    • Anonymity editor says:

      When is the next recruiting session?   Can we start recruiting from HMPS?  Baines let us know when you are recruiting.  The budget is going to be drastically reduced after recruitment.  Yeah!

  35. Anonymous says:

    Very important to know the person who recommended this Officer for recruitment, also who  interview him in the Cayman Islands?  Was his credentials thoroughly checked?   It would seem that we are  just desparate to  bring in a criminals,  that is why we cannot account for may of our unsolved mystries.  It is hped that The Deputy Governor  interview those at the RCIP Department who participated in the hiring of this officer, and the conn4ections.

  36. A.T says:

    Imagine. Decent hardworking people are out there applied for positions in RCIPS, and who didnt get a relied was turned down. people I know who would make a difference. All for what? WHO you know rather then WHAT you know? Sad. Very sad what this island is coming to. If the people of the cayman islands can not trust the department put there to protect us what do you think is going to happen? Every house hold will start taking matters into their own hands and THEN the prisons will really be full. CNS, keep up the good work!

    • Anonymous says:

      I know of 4 decent young Caymanians who applied for the positions when the RCIPS were recruiting… THEY WEREN'T EVEN CONSIDERED!  The hell with these friggin' A'Holes!  Enough is enough!

  37. Anonymous says:

    Yea this the kind of people the government got to protect and serve???! What they really be doing is harassing the public and think they're above the law piece of S…

  38. Anonymous says:

    As a Caymanian (not the paperkind) I find this all very disturbing to say the least.  Our beautiful country  that our forefathers worked so hard and proud for is now being denigrated firstly by people who are lawless and unruly and have no business being in our country because they are corrup and cannot be trusted and will ruin our country just ike they ruined Jamaica. Secondly we have leaders who do not have the fortitude to see what is happening before their own eyes or if they do they do not have the balls to do something about it at their own people's expense.  Only here could he not only be gvena job with a gun but put on leave with full pay.   These criminals here are laughing all the way to the bank.   There are hard working officers from the UK and Cayman who are being overworked and underpaid.   They work their butts off and get no promotion or even PR yet the Jamaicans bring in their cousins, and brethren and they are promoted over the Englih and Caymanian officers who have exemplary records and in no time given PR.   Where is the justice?  I hope Ezzard reads this.  Only he has the balls to stand up for his people, and country!!!  The rest gone fishing!     

    • Anonymous says:

      Way to denigrate a citizen (Caymanian) who was 'made' a few generations after you.   "Paperkind".  SMH.   There is literally no way possible for someone to become an equal citizen for people like you unless they were born here, is there?   Very sad.   Divisional.   Drawing our country apart rather than uniting it.   

      • Anonymity editor says:

        We do not need imported criminals.  The state this country is in now is because we dropped our guards and allowed too many undesirables to enter.  

        Too many married, are marrying and having children for them.  What good have reaped?  Hire more criminals and increase the population.

    • Anonymous says:

      Seriously?  "Not the paper kind"!  I find this kind of attitude equally disturbing.  Are we a melting pot, or aren't we?  Are we a people who welcome others (or does that just depend on how much money they have in their pocket)?  Are we a country founded on Christian values?  Your first line reflects none of these.

      Fellow Caymanian

    • Anonymous says:

      You also have corrupt Caymanians in government so lets not kid ourselves about that.

      • anonymous says:

        And corrupt caymanian cops as recently seen in the news.

        • Anonymous says:

          Yes we have corruption here so we don't any imported from Jamaica. We got enough. By the way, any sensible Jamaican will tell you that police in Jamaica are among some of the wickedest most corrupt criminals in that country. 

      • Anonymity editor says:

        Let's name them and shame them.  But we don't need to import criminals, so we?

  39. Anonymous says:

    is this really a surprise people ? Check the stats over 200 people are shot and killed in jamaica by police every year , we have lots of  Jamaicans in the police armed unit here therefore we have lots of police that have killed people , some are self defence and more are executions but because they are hardly charged because of the corrupt system, they simply apply here for a job   In the force with a clean slate no questions asked.

  40. Anonymous says:

    Baines could not defend a man who had allegations made against him but he certainly put his neck on the block for a man accused of murder. Good job David Baines.

  41. Anonymous says:

    Here's an idea for the RCIPS:  there's a recently available police officer in Ferguson Missouri looking fir work.  Just saying.

  42. Anonymous9 says:

    The BIG question is;   Did RCIPS know about this pending case??? I have a feeling that the answer is yes. And THAT is disgusting.

    • Anonymous says:

      The BIGGER Question is: Did you read any of the article? Nope, and now you look like a complete spanner.

    • Anonymous says:

      The Commisioners knew. Thats why he was taken from the frontline.

  43. Anonymous says:

    Isn't one of the standard requirements to work here providing a clean police clearance?

    • Anonymity editor says:

      If you are an Caymanian you need a clean police record with the Umbiblical cord tied around it., but the expats has to be on used toilet tissue to be acceptable for hire.

    • Anonymous says:

      Wouldn't have mattered.  He wasn't convicted yet.

  44. Anonymous says:

    He was on probation and he should have been let go. Our own people can't find jobs and this person was collecting a salary that could have been used to pay someone else. 

  45. Anonymous says:

    OMG seriously how much more embrassment does this counrty needs before the Govenor/Depty Govenor,The  Premier, Eric Bush and whom ever that is up there that should be doing something.

  46. RICO Suave says:

    Cayman has seen its best years in policing under Derek Haines all we seem to employ now is ramble from the UK and Jamaica but that was the plan all  along ain't that right Alden????

    • Anonymity editor says:

      What happened to the the UK officer who stole the missing goods from the RCIPS?   Wasn't another officer penalized for trying to bring him to justice and that was brush under the rug.  Only in the Cayman Islands.

    • Anonymous says:

      What's Alden got to do with it??

  47. Anonymous says:

    The application should have questions like "Have you ever been arrested for a felony?" and "Are you eligible for rehire at your former employer?" and if you lie you get fired, not just suspended.

    • Anonymous says:

      Ask, how many murders have you committed?  You may getan spluttering answer, which would cause you to think, before hiring.

  48. Naya Boy says:

    When you employ garbage from overseas they will bring their own dump workers to clean it up. It ain't rocket science Star !!!! The Days of high standards in the RCIPS are gone it left when Derek Haines retired.

    • Anonymous says:

      Derek Haines did not retire. He was forced out when his contract was not renewed.

  49. Anonymous says:

    A prime example of what we have in uniform protecting us. Great job RCIPS lucky you found out befors he wa promoted to inspector. Keep up the good work. Keep digging for answers CNS.

    • Anonymous says:

      According to the Compass reoort, this officer "apparently believing he had been cleared in this line of duty shooting," asked for a transfer.

      Compass, How do u know it was "apparent" to him? And apparently, the Jamaican DPP did not believe it was a "lime of duty shooting," but a crime!

      ah, it hurts me so much what the Compass, the one daily newspaper, has now turned put to be. 

      Truly soul destroying and a discredit to Cayman.

      Nd to think that man continued to receive pay all that time — full pay!  Commissioner, I have to say to you, that if under the circumstances your HR departtment could not figure out how to terminate the association with this man, it is not worth its salt.

      and please do not re-hire him.  How could you even suggest the possibility.  The man was unanimously convicted of murder — a common atrocity of Jamaican policemen.

      we do not need the Iikes of him here in Cayman.  Jamaica should be the last country we go to for exemplary polocemen.

      And anyone who is hiring staff know that these dazzling recommendations are not worth the paper.  

      And if the anti- corruption commission gave this man a clean bill of health, it is also not worth the time of day.

      Commissioner, don't evem try to get the Compass PR machine to sell your defense to us.  We are not as stupid as you and the Compass think.

      absolutely atrocious performance all round.

      • Anonymous says:

        Can I suggest spell check?

        • Anonymous says:

          Can I suggest you get over yourself old damn troll? Always an ass out there going on about spelling, when the message is still clearly legible and undoubtedly more important.

  50. Patna's Legacy says:

    How much lower will the Rcips sink down before someone does something about it. I won't hold my breath under the current leadership who's loyalty knows no bounds. What a joke this little place is Murderers running around with guns to protect us?

  51. Anonymous says:

    CNS, thank you for revealing this! Wonder what Commish and Deputy Governor will have to say about this!! Compouded by the fact that he was being paid while on charges for murder in another country??!! But of course, no accountability and coupled with their 'cover-up' mentality and tactics, this will soon be under the rug. This is an example of the mismanagement and wastage in the public service which contributes to the missing $1 billion. Not to mention the risk to public safety!

    Excellent work RCIPS!!! Your hiring and vetting processes continue to amaze us! We recall when you hired an officer who had been dismissed from a Toronto-area police department for theft and while serving with RCIPS he stole money from North Side Primary School PTA in addition to those recently charged with or convicted of corruption.

    For years many people here have speculated that some officers from a particular nearby island may be "tainted", because of the reputation of police officers in that country, now here is proof! May I be so bold as to suggest that police officers could be involved in many of our unsolved armed robberies – especially those done in pairs. Can RCIPS unequivocally and conclusively rule out that possibility? It would be good to know the working schedules of RCIPS officers when such armed robberies are committed and note any pattern. But no, that would be protected by FOI in the name of "national security"

    National security my a**, we are NOTsecure, thanks to Baines and his Keystone Cops!

  52. Anonymous says:

    The RCIPS recruits officers from Jamaica and relied in this case upon neglectful references from Jamaican Constabulary Forces and Jamaican Anti-Curruption task Force, neither of which made mention of the incident or investigation.  Perhaps now the RCIPS HR Dept could ask these agencies to review their references to be a little more proactive and forthright about any other errors or omissions concerning recruits that might now be ranking officers our service.  

  53. Anonymous says:

    I can't wait to see the comments on this one. this is so wrong for so many reasons….

  54. Anonymous says:

    What a headline in the Compass for the world to read, " Cayman Police convicted of murder in Jamaica". Everything that a Jamaican does in Cayman the Press has it "A Georgetown Man or a West Bay Man etc." This head line should have read " Policeman who comitted murder in Jamaica was since hired in Cayman and is now sentenced to 25 years in prison". Can one believe that we the Cayman Island people had to pay his salary for all this time while he was put off his job? Somebody should have to repay these monies. After all he came here with all these false recommendations, which is no unusual thing. These false recommendations are being produced on a daily basis. However if they are coming from Police and even people in the Court which ones can we honour? I have personally expercienced that the recommendations that comes saying that he or she is a CHRISTIAN they are the worst recommendations. I recently overheard a woman telling some one who wanted a job from her that if he is a christian then she did not want him to do the job. Apparently he was trying to sell himself by saying that he was a christian She then told him that only if his surname was Christian. Years ago we had some very repitable Police from Barbados whom the Community respected and they did an excellent job why not continue with them? No in Cayman it is Papa brings Mama, mama brings brother , Brother brings Uncle and the list goes on. If you have any doubt just check the other Government Departments such as our Hospital. I am very disappointed in the system, may God Almighty have mervy on our once little Paradise.

  55. Anonymous says:

    Can someone remind what Baines is bringing to the table apart from what seems to be gross incompetence in his role as Police Chief?

    We have be paying a murderer full salary for 3yrs?

    WTF…….

    • Anon says:

      Yes, and Caymanians can't get a job if they've been caught with a stick of marijuana! And they are 'tInted' for life. As I see this, the entire process of this man's employment was fraudulent, including the great references. Jamaica wanted to get rid of him, why not give him great references? Because of the fraudulent process, there  should have been no problem firing him.  Please tell us how that works – and he was still on probation. Caymanians can be dismissed and they have no recourse, and now this? 

  56. Anonymous says:

    RCIPS standards of recruitment and background checks vetting) are a joke and their system is still the best at selling s—t sandwiches. Happy eating. LMAO

  57. Clement G says:

    Murderer inna di area big bout ya The Rcips knew about this from 2011 but cover this up for a long time . The most serious part was this guy was running around here in the same capacity as he was in Jamaica armed with agun doesn't bode well for us at all???? No worries all part of the bigger plan to degrade this little place.So sad our leadership are so blind and are running round the UK with the same folks who made this all possible. 

  58. Anon says:

    This one takes the cake!!