Ozzie in major row with CO

| 16/12/2014

(CNS): Following a number of reports to CNS about a major altercation between the health minister and his chief officer, the premier has now released a short statement indicating that the issue is being addressed. We submitted questions to Minister Osbourne Bodden and his CO Jennifer Ahearn as well as the premier and deputy governor after a number of readers said that the row, witnessed by numerous civil servants, was both shocking and distressing. The scale of the verbal abuse hurled at the chief officer by Bodden over what was understood to be a work-related dispute which took place in the government building was said to be alarming. CNS was also informed that security was called to the incident in the minstry's offices. Ahearn also reported the issue to the deputy governor, who in turn contacted the premier. 

Neither Bodden nor Ahearn have responded to press enquiries but Premier Alden McLaughlin released a short statement from his office Tuesday morning saying: “I do not believe that it is either helpful or appropriate for government to discuss personnel misunderstandings in the press.”

McLaughlin said that when there are strong personalities who are passionate about their work, differences in opinion will occur. “There was such a variance of opinion between Minister Bodden and his Chief Officer, for which the Minister has already apologised in writing to his Chief Officer and the ministry staff,” he said.

The reports to CNS indicated that it was a lot more than a mere disagreement and that there was sustained use of exceptionally foul language by the minister, who had, according to some reports, exhibited a frightening display of temper.

In his statement about what is clearly a serious issue the premier added, “The public can rest assured that the matter is being addressed to ensure that the important work of the Ministry of Health, Sports and Culture is not compromised and the several projects being undertaken by the ministry remain on target.”

He said that both he and Deputy Governor Franz Manderson had taken prompt action when informed about the issue.

Manderson added, “I was contacted by Chief Officer Ahearn concerning this matter and immediately raised the matter with the Honourable Premier in accordance with the Constitution and the Public Service Management Law.” The deputy governor said he was confident the matter is being viewed seriously by the premier and confirmed that there is a plan in place to address the issue going forward.

Details of the dispute have not been released but CNS understands it was triggered following email correspondence between the minister and the CO. Officials have given no further details about the incident and the consequences, if any, for the minister.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    He should have had a Snickers.

    • Anonymous says:

      He should resign and get a therapist. 

      • Anonymous says:

        He should resign . No  Alden should have fire him, and put in charge of dump where he would be dealing with truck drivers if that is the kind of mouth he has , and may he will learn to have respect for other humans . This is a complete embarrassing insults to every one of the Islands  . Mr  Premier I think that the way you are handling this issue is going to be remembered long after 2016 , next election I means .

  2. Anonymous says:

    I guess they are just chalking it up to "Ozzie just being Ozzie". Wow. What's next?

  3. Anonymous says:

    Mr. Premier, this is your bully pulpit opportunity.

    It is your opportunity to demonstrate your leadersip strength and what you stand for.

    There is no other way to show the country and the world, that your government and these beautiful islands, will not condone this type of wild and unethical behavior.

    Mr. Bodden has clearly demonstrated, that he does not have leadership abilities, and it will be very difficult for him going forward to be effective in this very important ministry.

    Mr. Premier, your actions on this matter, will have a huge impact on the next general elections.

    Show your strength sir.

  4. Get Rid says:

    Insulting the modesty of a woman. Does this law apply equally to all? If is doesn't then get rid of it.

    Is the Royal Cayman Islands Police Farce going to hide behind the excuse that they were not called/informed about this so could not pursue it? If they do not then get rid of the the managment.

    Is Ozzie "Rubbish" Bodden fit to lead? No, so get rid of him from Cabinet. 

    • Anonymous says:

      More importantly isn't this law outdated in the new era of Human Rights, where women expect equal treatment to men? Otherwise there should also be a law called: insulting the modesty of a man, to have Gender Affairs balance, and not the one sided system we now have.

      Ozzie please move a motion to pass that law, or repeal the law for women. Women cannot expect to have their cake and eat it too!

  5. Anonymous says:

    This place is a joke. Every four years we end up with the same ole arrogance and ignorance of these fools. I for one am going to start saving every penny so that I can get the hell out of dodge as soon as possible because this place has gone to hell and is only getting worse!

    Caymanian

  6. Foreign Devil. says:

    Driftwood, and you should be glad to have me!

  7. Anonymous says:

    Poor old Ozzie.

    The man has always had a bad temper… it is only a matter of time before the Cow Cod comes out again!!

  8. Anonymous says:

    The Deputy governor doesn't have the backbone to stand up for the CS — this was a lady for gosh sakes — the law applies to all — aleast thats what the PPM preached — now its time to MAN UP premier— do the right thing —

    • Anonymous says:

      Hell will freeze over before he grows balls, acts like a leader and puts country over family and friemds.  I say this from someone  who is not a Bush supporter too.

    • Anonymous says:

      A female-yes. It is indeed time for Cayman to Man Up for Women’s rights!

  9. paper American says:

    I was not born in the USA,but am a US citizen.That makes me in Caymanian terms a paper American.

    • E. Pluribus Y'all says:

      There are dozens of types of Americans including, but not limited to, white, black, latino, Korean, Vietnamese, Jewish, Irish, German, Cuban, Mexican and on and on. They are very particular about their classifications and categories.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Ozzie bet ya Neva realize how much people love yuh so…. Maybe tree comments in your defense…. Do di right ting man…. Pass de batton to a more mature mentally stable professional. Maybe dis di kinda talk can run gas station but not CivilService…..if yuh eva speak to mi mudda like so…. Bless dear Ms Jennifer

  11. Anonymous says:



    Any respectable man would resign.

  12. Anonymouss says:

    I guess she didn't support is Ban on all cigarettes in Cayman policy…..

  13. Anonymous says:

    Like everything else that is a Crisis, the PPM is hoping that it will soon quiet doen and go away without them having to do anything. Wrong this time PPM !!!

    To my fellow bloggers lets keep the dicussion and comments going until the Premier discovers his backbone and exhibits some Leadership.

    It isquite simple under the Constitution Alden. All you have to do under the Constitution is to "consult" with the Governor and "advise" her to revoke Minister Bodden's appointment and "advise" her to appoint MLA "X" in his stead.

    Come on Alden stop delaying the inevitable……..you can put this blackeye behind you by 5pm today if only you would show some leadership.

    This type of decisive action is what we would expect in a mature democracy which is what we claim to be. Your action or inaction over the next 24 hrs will determine whether we are a mature democracy or just another third world country !!!

     

     
     
  14. Anonymous says:

    I say we use this opportunity to:

    A – Remove the "Honourable for Life"  title

    B – Remove the MLAs self-imposted salaries & penions (plus office allowance/travel etc) and set caps based on performance.

    C – Remove Double-dipping

  15. Anonymous says:

    Why are people saying he should resign?  He is the minister of Culture after all. 

  16. Anonymous says:

    Ok, when I heard that he called her a "piece of driftwood" I did chuckle. It was funny, but on the other hand Ozzie did a stupid thing. It's just the same as every other ignorant Caymanian who believe that because of their birth, they deserve pardon in everything:- People came from all over the world and settled in Cayman.

    No apology can take back words spoken with intense negative emotion, regardless of what made him so angry. The same goes for us. Yes we are human, but it does not give us the right to treat people in a way that degrades the very thing that makes us human.

    Ozzie, you can apologize, but unfortunately for you, Ms Jennifer, the people who heard your commotion and the rest of society who hear these rumors – will all have to live with this.

    Be a better man, Ozzie.

    • Fred the Piemaker says:

      Chuckle – so its funny, right?  Any other racist epithets you would like to add?  Is  the N word funny too?  How about Yid?  Do help me here , cause I am at a slight loss as to what is deemed to be acceptable denigration of a group of people based on some common characteristic or religious belief, and what is not.  

      • Anonymous says:

        Chuckle yes, even I chuckled though I know its racist in its undertone.  It does not mean that I condone what happened.  There is farce in all of this when you think that the Progressives during their last reign showed the same ineptitude and stirred up racial divides for their own end.  What that man said  in public is what McLaughlin believes in private, now that is the scarey thing.  And before you accuse me of being a Bush support; I am not.  I am a bitterly disappointed expat watching from the sidelines a country tear itself apart through corruption, ineptitude, cronyism and failure to put country over family and friends.  The people of these islands are poorly served by their home grown political representatives.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Alden's cover up has been a disgrace.  A leader would have fired Ossie by now.

  18. Anonymous says:

    This is what happens when you skip meals. Like the commercial says, "you can't do your best if you don't eat a good breakfast"….

  19. Anonymous says:

    WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGAL ASPECT OF OZZIE'S PERFORMANCE WITH MS AHEARN?

     

    Regardless of what anyone thinks about it, he has broken the law.   (1) Insulting the Modesty of a woman.   (2)   Common Assault.  You dont have to hit someone to assault them (fear , imtimidation, threats).   (3) Causing a disturbance  (4) Employer threatening the job of an employee without following the process of law for termination or discipline.

    I am sure there is much more when all facts are known.   So HE MUST RESIGN!  Who wants to work with someone who has anger management problems and may attack you at any moment?

     

    • Anonymous says:

      Hope she is smart enough to proceed with a lawsuit and set a precedent. Are  Racism and xenophobia legally punishable in this country?

      • Anonymous says:

        You woud think not by all the anti-Caymanian comments on CNS published regularly with impunity.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lawsuits would then start hitting the private sector where bullying happens frequently and don’t even say racism!

      • Anonymous says:

        I guess not otherwise many foreigners would have been slapped with one or two.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well who is going to make him resign.  Certainly not the Premier, certainly not HR.  He is untouchable being a Caymanian and general all round thick piece of drift wood.

      • Anonymous says:

        12:40.So it is wrong for Mr Bodden to insult Ms Ahearn ,but it is ok for you to insult Mr Bodden and all Caymanians.Where is the outrage over your racist and xenophobic comment.

    • Anonymous says:

      Could somebody with legal training please define the term "Insulting the Modesty of a woman?" It has been mentioned in a number of posts and I am curious as to what is the correct definition.

  20. Anonymous says:

    LOL…. I know he got all of you going on this site. What a drama! If some of you never typed in years, I bet you typing now, just to tear your own people down like many of you are famously known for. As the saying goes, "If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!".

    Team Ozzie

    • Anonymous says:

      What exactly are you trying to say?

      • Anonymous says:

        I think the writer meant the CO stepped on the wrong toes this time. You understood that?

      • Anonymous says:

        I think the writer meant the CO stepped on the wrong toes this time. You understood that?

    • Anonymous says:

      Illiterate nonsense. If this is the best support OB can come up with, his career is over.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Shame on Ozzie! Clearly, he's starting to crack under the pressure.

    We expected change when the PPM replaced the UDP, not more McKeeva-like tirades.

  22. Anonymous says:

    Ozzie.  You just sealed your fate bobo.  As a born Bodden Towner, you have received my vote for the last time.  You are HISTORY next election! 

    • Anonymous says:

      But you must have been stupid to vote for him in the first place.

      • Anonymous says:

        11:51.Why are you so angry and insulting?

      • Anonymous says:

        He was riding on coattails, with the perception of being the "lesser evil," …  In comparison to the UDP candidates. Nothing more, nothing less. Elected by default. That's his legacy. We absolutely didn't want him, but by giving him the vote, we were trying to ensure that, in numbers, the UDP dictatorship stood as little a chance as possible of rearing its head. 

  23. F*ing-driftwood-and-proud-of-it says:

    Here is a suggested Christmas gift from Jennifer to Ozzie: the book by Dr Robert Sutton titled "The No Asshole Rule – Building a Civilized Workplace and Surviving One That Isn't". 

    Ozzie, you are the weakest link – Goodbye.

  24. Knot S Smart says:

    So now I have 3 potential clients for my new business and they are:

    Whoever hired that prison guard  …

    Mr Baines for keeping the police officer aka 'the murderer' after he found out that the officer was charged in Jamaica…

    Ozzie aka 'the cusser and driftwood finder'…

    My new business by the way is 'the apologist' – and my job it is to defend the actions of public officials who make really dumb mistakes…

     

    • Anonymous says:

      Knot so Smart must be a fan of Scandal ………. you go, you gladiator of apologies

  25. Do not expect anything says:

    This has already been handled incorrectly.

    The only way for government to prove they walk the walk and not just talk when it comes to support for fair treatment is if the Premier and Deputy governor immediately fired Ozzie for this behaviour. Additionally, they need to release a very public announcement that this behaviour will not be tolerated and they stand behind Ms Ahearn.

    But we all know this will not be done. Maybe it is because they also have the same beliefs as Ozzie about women and expats.

    • Anonymous says:

      – 07:34.Your last paragraph really shows your prejudice.Thank you for putting out frint so all can see how racist you are.

  26. Anonymous says:

    According to the Sage of North Side, Ezzard Miller, Osbourne Bodden should probably resign (fair enough) but so should Ahearn. Dear Lord Jesus, protect us from these foolish small minded little men.

    • JTB says:

      Yes, apparently Ezzard believes the correct response to work place bullying is to force the victim to resign. He was obviously worried that her inevitable lawsuit isn't worth enough yet. I know Ezzard can't ever pass on the chance to have a go at foreigners, but he really ought to engage brain before mouth every now and then.

    • Anonymous says:

      Ezzard has lost all credibility on this issue when he blames the victim & suggests that she likewise resign because the Minister abused her in front of staff.

      Some day the North siders will realize they can do better. 

      • North Side Voter says:

        Be fair.  

        Last election, Ezzard's competition was a rambling, paranoid crackhead who had previously abused his position in two Government entities to steal money to support his drug habit. Even so, the vote was split about 70/30.  Console yourself with the fact that only 326 voters in the entire island gave Ezzard their vote. 

    • Anonymous says:

      06:56. Commenters are out in force because an expat woman was allegedly insulted and demeaned .Although Ezzard and his fellow Caymanians have been insulted,and demeaned by persons like yourself for years,these same posters have been deafening in their silence .I guess it doesn't count if is done to a Caymanian.

  27. Anonymous says:

    This display from one of our "leaders" is deplorable. Even if  Ms. Jennifer Ahearn isn't Caymanian, MANY expatriates have contributed SIGNIFICANTLY to this Cayman community.

    Look at the service clubs – mainly expats! What does THAT say? Why do some Caymanians not feel like they should contribute likewise in our own community?Shame on us!

    Personally, I think that a young, capable Caymanian like Mr Alva Suckoo should replace "Hon" Mr Osbourne Bodden!

    Caymanian

    • Anonymous says:

      I think you are missing the point, Jennifer Ahearn is Caymanian! Or are you one of those who consider us status holders "driftwood" as well!

    • Anonymous says:

      Well everyone should contribute to places that they have adopted as home. 

      Also, service clubs are a wonderful means to help everyone. Your membership in a service club also looks good on your PR or Caymanian Status application … one hand washing the other, Bo-Bo. No free lunch. Noone gets anything for free.   

  28. Anonymous says:

    As bad as the UDP were- and don't get me wrong they were BAD, it seems that the PPM has several loose canons who are outdoing the UDP in more ways than one. I see though a serious destabilization of this government and Alden is holding on by a thread. Within the next 3-6 months, we will see this government crumble and only God knows what's next? Can a majority of the electors in the country ask for an election to be called if we aren't happy with the bunch of Elmer Fudds we have in the LA now? If so, we should but then again, we would end up with the same Fudds and maybe even one or two Yosemite Sams. I shall get back to watching Swamp People now as that show is a lot more meaningful than politics in this good ole place we call Cayman.

    • Anonymous says:

      In no way shape or form is the PPM govt. worse than the UDP. If you think that is the first time a civil servant has been cussed out by a politician in the Govt. Admin Bldg, think again!  

  29. Ooops! says:

    This story has more comments that Prep firing a pregnant teacher becuase she got in "trouble" out of wedlock.

  30. Anonymous says:

    How many personnell issues does Alden have to deal with? Like 4 right?

  31. Anonymous says:

    The reason WILL come out – it's widely known in the GOAP, not least becasue there was consultation outside his Ministry about it BEFORE the indident.

    When it does, Alden, Franz and the whole PPM possey will look like idiots for having tried to brush IT aside rather than brush HIM OUT.

  32. anonymous says:

    Ozzie, you know those UDP'er were looking for a slip up by one of you squeaky clean PPM'er and you gave them something to gloat about. XXXX Ozzie, please do the right thing, make a public apology to the fine lady, even though we don't have the full facts of what made you exploded on her, but what you did was wrong.  You made ignorance reared its ugly head and your supposenly divisive comments, were uncall for. Do the right thing now, publicly apologize and step aside and give the Ministry over to Alva Suckoo. Take a breather and reflect on what you have done.  We don't need those UDP people back in charge of government, the Progressive ship needs to stay afloat to complete the task at hand and to keep this country stablized, as Cuba opens up.  UDP are again recouping for an avalanch win in 2017, you guys have a major job ahead and time is running out. Do it the right way and do not fuel that bunch to get back in.  Most voters memories are short lived and they can so easily forget the UDP wrecking train express. Heed warnings!

    • Jonas Dwyer says:

      no more holler  no more pain, no more sorrow no more gain.

    • Anonymous says:

      Minister Bodden we need you dealing with the multitude of issues you inherited with the HSA.  The PPM would be very short sighted to even consider giving your Ministry to Alva Suckoo.  He is years away from being ready for such a responsibility.

  33. Anonymous says:

    What has he added which is of any substance to any work he has done since in office? Ever heard him during a press release or during a speech? I wouldn't expect anymore from him….

  34. Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport says:

    Ozzie, Ozzie, Ozzie…..

  35. Anonymous says:

    Hmmmm? Wonder how to cut the tension in next Tuesday's Cabinet Meeting with Her Excellency?

    • cow itch. says:

      o trust me, with cod and liver oil, ozzie should cut anything!  :))>)

  36. Anonymous says:

    Ho! Ho! Ho! A glass of decorum anyone? Perhaps a keg or a few, enough to go around during the LA's Christmas Luncheon!

  37. James 509 says:

    Time to put our feet down. Would anyone be interested inholding a peaceful demonstration outside the government building asking for this guy to step down  or even starting a facebook account on the topic. What Ozzie did was not just wrong but fundamentally wrong in every way. It does not matter what the disagreement was about it is the way in which it was handled by a Minister of the Cayman Islands Government. 

    • Anonymous says:

      I would love to see some peaceful demonstration of any kind on this island, the last time people got riled up enough to unite was the expat tax and there's been so many issues since that have been and gone.

      We're too sleepy, we need some get up and go – this is what the government continue to rely on, our inaction is their gain.

    • Anonymous says:

      19:56.Could you at least wait until you know for sure what actually happened.Afterall if  we are going to hang someone,let's be sure we are hanging the right one.

       

  38. Time Longer Than says:

    Can you say "Clutttering up the infrastructure"  or "Peanut butter tourists" ?

  39. Anonymous says:

    Caymanians hate Cayman Status and they dislike foreigners who get it. It is dividing this country big time. It is blamed for absolutely everything, especially unemployment among Caymanians and crime. One poster to this site said recently that before 2003 there was no crime in Cayman. I don't need to list our well known born Caymanian criminals or the incarceration statistics from Northward to show this is the bs bile from some of our intelligence-challenged Caymanians. But it never stops. Even MLAs married to foreigners go on about it…….then bitch big time when their spouses and the family members they bring in from abroad don't get jobs.

    And now, Osbourne "Rubbish" Bodden has laid it right out there for us. Let's abolish Cayman Status and stop the hypocrisy.

    • Anonymous says:

      Some Caymanians hate ones that have Caymanian Status since a certain Caymanian individual once gave it away like candy to whomever appeared on his "Bobo List". I digress but some of us were not bought for votes by this same maniac and do hold this country's best interests to heart.

    • Anonymous says:

      18:15. You state "Caymanians hate Cayman Status and they dislike foreigners who get it" Unfortunately you failed to state that some expats who obtain Cayman Status,also hate Caymanians and look down on them.It happens on both sides so when we are telling this story ,let's tell the whole story.

  40. Anonymous says:

    Can’t help wondering how much this says about the way he behaves himself at home.

    • Anonymous says:

      And those with status and foreigners love Caymanians right?

      Its interesting how there is no outrage from anyone, who claims that all this hatred exist, about the bias AGAINST CAYMANIANS. Or thats perhaps they are being hypocrites.

      The fact is yes, it is on both sides. But yet there is always a generalization about Caymanians when it comes to making negative comments on this site.

      • Anonymous says:

        It works the other way too.  Racism in all directions.  It does not make it any less potemt but it does make it more significant when a Minister looses his temper and displays behaviour that is contrary to our laws, humanity and an island that (yes) needs expat.  We do!

      • Anonymous says:

        In this case people are speaking as they find.  Unfortunately any blogging attracts extremes.  That said if the Minister was an expat shouting at a Caymanian I am certain the outcome would be different.  You are a young country with a lot to learn.   Saying this does not make me for or agsinst Caymanians.  

  41. Uncivil Servant says:

    Dare you to send an FOI for his credit card details….

  42. Anonymous says:

    Why would Mr. Bodden say such a thing to this woman. Where was both his current and ex-wife born? Are they considered Caymanians? You have unleashed pandora's box with that statement Mr. Bodden and it will remain with you always. You should be ashamed of yourself.  It is precisely that kind of attitude that has caused the divide amongst people here. If my mom is English, my Dad is Caymanian and I was born in the US but grew up here all my life, guess that means I am not Caymanian either.

    • Anonymous says:

      Don't voteat election times status holders. You are not really Caymanians. Its what the minister say. I'm only repeating it.

  43. Anonymous says:

    I hope the reason for this madness on Bodden's part comes out. She-Ahearn- was only doing her duty and in fact protecting him from possible adverse comment by the Auditor-General. And he melted down. He just does not get the fact that he and his buddies are not elected gods to spend our money without questions asked.

    • Anonymous says:

      We just might be getting some where. Tell!!! I dare yah! What was the argument about?

    • Anonymous says:

      17:28.I hope you will do the smart thing ,if you have first hand knowledge,and not leak it to the press.These commenters only want to use you,they will not hire you if you lose your job.

  44. Anonymous says:

    Such a step in the wrong direction Ozzie. It is entirely conceivable that not even McOnerable would reduce himself to this. A Bodden Town supporter.

  45. Anonymous says:

    Is this man a representative of the Caymanian people?  If not what is he doing in that job?

  46. Anonymous says:

    she said, in a Ronald Reagan voice:   " Mr. Bodden…tear down this dump ! "

    • anonymously says:

      to which he says in his bill clinton voice:   " %#%#%  how in the cod am I suppose to tear down this dump?!"

  47. Anonymous says:

    Before any jumps to conclusions, does anyone know what the argument was about?

    As long as there is a conflagration, expect the press input. Can we be more objective here. Bodden is a member of one of the worst government ever and it is a well known fact that the COs are usually unwilling to work with their ministers.

    It is no bloody wonder.  I wish the press would dig deeper and get their noses for a story stimulated. Then perhaps they might find the real truth.

    There is only ever ONE truth.

  48. Anonymous says:

    Seems every four years we have to deal with Bodden Towners no-class MLAs, from UDP or PPM.  Next election no men from Bodden Town.

  49. Anonymous says:

    Consider Jennifer and her 2 young children…..and how this is affecting them. After 18 years of dedicated service to the Government of the Cayman Islands, it comes to this??

    • Anonymous says:

      I loved Ezzard's demand to squeeze out the high ranking "furreigner" because she had been bullied by a Caymunian.

  50. Anonymous says:

    Sorry, don't be surprised my Alden's disgraceful response. Alden is about Alden, okay. All that matters is having a sufficent number of obedient servants.

    Why do you think Julie was pardoned of her transgrwessions and welcomed into the PPM? Numbers.

    Why do youthink he chose Ozzie to be a Minister over Alva who has a backbone? Obedient.

    And quite frankly, Alden is powerless to touch Ozzie. They have far too much let's just say – in common. 

  51. Anonymous says:

    A "plan in place to address the issue going forward". How I hate this Civil Service meaningless double speak!

  52. Anonymous says:

    See, this results from the upside-down administrative culture existing in the Ministries since the late 1970s. The Chief Officer (formerly Permanent Secretary) is the adviser to the Minister on all matters under that particular Ministry. Chief Officers and their staff are expected to be the professionals who are trained and familiar in their roles in order to ensure the Ministry functions effectively and efficiently (we hope).  The Minister is politically responsible for ensuring administrative policies match the sitting Government's mandates and goals. The Minister must depend on the administrators of his/her respective responsibilities to meet those goals, including especially the advice and support of the CO. However, the Minister is not bound to accept all or any advice proffered. Clearly Chief Officers are not always right either, so consideration, debate, compromise and other NORMAL processes of decision-making must apply. The Minister rotates after every election (almost always) and is NOT the person trained and proficient with their designated role. Very few times have we had Ministers who have professional qualifications in their assigned ministerial responsibilities – Ezzard Miller, Roy Bodden, Marco Archer are the few who come to mind.

    However, for almost 40 years, Ministers have taken office as if they are the professionals in the field and know it all. They generally treat their Ministry responsibilities in that manner by dictating rather than taking advice. This is one of the many reasons why our public service system is so screwed up and broken! 

  53. Anonymous says:

    The Wizard of OZ. Good ting you left dat dam cow cod home, big daddy. 

  54. Anonymous says:

    So if so many people dislike this man, how in the world did he get elected?

    • Anonymous says:

      Simple, better choice, but that was then, we now know better…

    • Too funny says:

      PPM Zombies elected him.

    • Anonymous says:

      without party politics and loyal voters to both teams, probably only Bush from UDP,

      Kurt, Al and Marco from PPM would have been elected. Let them try running as independents

    • Anonymous says:

      What were the alternatives?

    • Anonymous says:

      13:57 I would think that he was elected by persons who liked him.The haters on here have always hated  and when Ozzie did not follow the Dart plan for the dump,well that just increased the hate.In other words the haters are made up of  supporters of UDP  and the Dart Dump project.The reason a lot of them are commenting is an attempt to pay him back by seeking his resignation from office.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hiw wrong you are to assume everyone hates ozzie fbecause we support the UDP! The plan for the dump etc.  The man has behaved in a manner that brings this government and the Cayman Islands into disrepute.  That the argument was. About a CO advising againt submitting particular expenses makes it even more imperative that he goes.  Hate does not come into it.

  55. Anonymous says:

    Part of the problem is the inherent disrespect displayed by Ministers for many years towards the Ministries and staff under their responsibility. Note, how often any given minister refers to "MY Chief Officer" or "MY Ministry" – instead of "THE Chief Officer" or THE Ministry forwhich I'm responsible". Seems as if election success brings ownership of the resulting staff!!

    This arrogance of many holders of high public office is a throwback to the 1976-84 Government which introduced so many negatives to our society. Sadly it has now become ingrained.

  56. Shepherd says:

    Disgusting !  This man does not deserve or should be one of the leaders of our Country!  To think this is how you treat a hardworking and longstanding Civil Servant. Having a differerence of opinion is one thing, to shout, ridicule, curse and bully someone because you don't have the manners, dignity or intelligence is another. 

    All jobs require qualifications and to be an elected official, one should have an education, not be a thug off the street, because that is the niche O. Bodden has put himself in. 

    Well this piece of driftwood, long standing civil servant and Bodden Towner won't be voting for him next term.

  57. Anonymous says:

    And still qualified educated and experienced backbenchers who are really representing their people eg Al Suckoo continue to be sidelined and alienated for being true to the voters and people. This is a disgrace! Al Suckoo you need to distance yourself from this bunch before you get painted the same color. I hear Alden telling someone how disloyal Al Suckoo is a few months ago at Mango Tree but it appears as if he is the only one with any decency, I wonder if Ossie thinks Al is driftwood too since his daddy is a Jamaican.

    • Anonymous says:

      Leadership is resolving issues, not running from them.  A knee-jerk reaction to promote Al Suckoo would be a disservice to everyone, including Al.  Let's give the government time to get all the facts. 

  58. cow itch. says:

    cns, in dis photo looks like ozzie's hiding someting below his green necktie….

    o sh%t  run!  its  a cod!   

  59. Anonymous says:

    Alden statement is as worthless as the paper it is written on.  He will not take any further action as he is too fraid of what the results may be.  First, he will lose ozzie from ppm as he will switch and go with ezzard and arden on the other side then that means there is a power struggle in the house.  LOL

     

    Don't expect to see any further action on this matter.

  60. Sam Putt Putt says:

    Sorry, I didn't read all of the comments so this may have already been answered but at anypoint in time did the cow cod make an appearance?

  61. Anonymous says:

    Man Mac must be having a good laugh now.  For almost two years he sat back and gave them all the rope they needed, which is something they didn't do for him and his party.  But guess what Ms Karma is knocking and how fun it is to watch.

    The Progressives don't have to worry about anyone demising their party cause they doing a great job on their own.  LOL

  62. Anonymous says:

    Ozzie should be charged immediately with insulting the modesty of a woman.

    The charge of insulting the modesty of a woman involves “a person who, with intent to insult the modesty of any woman, utters any word, makes any sound or gesture or exhibits any object intending that such world or sound shall be heard, or that such gesture or object shall be seen by such woman, or intrudes upon the privacy of such woman, is guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for three years”. 

    • Anonymous says:

      I totally agree he should be charged with insulting the modesty of a woman.  Disgraceful.

    • Anonymous says:

      12:48 Is there also a charge for insulting the modesty of a man?

    • Anonymous says:

      We need to get that ridiculous law off the books. It is discriminatory against males. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either we are equal or we are not. 

  63. Anonymous says:

    Where was the fly on the wall when McKeeva Bush took power and subjugated those three women to nothingness as soon as he took power?  And the three are merely the ones that were publicized!!

    For whatever wrong was done at least the current ministers and administrators stepped in to correct the matter and express their apologies and remorse.

    McKeeva Bush apologetic and remorseful?  FA GETTA BOUT IT! 

    • Anonymous says:

      Or when he called that lady at the public meeting "Sweetheart" and "Darling"

       

      Was he charged then?

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes – THat is deplorable!

        To call a grown woman "sweetheart" demands  a lawsuit in this day an dage!!!

  64. Anonymous says:

    SMH … no doubt plastered right outside his office where this injustice occured is one of those signed we see in most of our Government interior office walls that state very clearly how individuals are to conduct themselves when at a Government office !! Especially the point about 'it is a crime to insult the modesty of a woman' here in the Cayman Islands!. The Honorable Minister (cough cough) should check the Penal Code (2013 Revision: A person who, wth intent to insult the modesty of ANYwoman, utters ANY word, makes ANY sound or gesture o exhibits any object intending that such word or sound shall be heard, or tha such gesture or object shall be seen by such woman …. commits an offense and is liable to imprisonment for 3  years. 

     
  65. Anonymous says:

    McGee Classic anyone? Just a few months ago Ozzie was on the airwaves yapping about bullying being a bad thing

    • Anonymous says:

      He meant it was a bad thing for other people to do.  He can do it to people who are not real Caymanians. 

  66. Anonymous says:

    A man with class and integrity would resign.  I do not anticipate Ossie is going to resign.

    • Anonymous says:

      If you want representatives with class and integrity, you should start electing them. So

      unfortunate.

       

      • Anonymous says:

        Bodden Towners were willing to vote for any crony that would block the dump project.  They knew who they were voting for and did not care. 

  67. Anonymous says:

    Wonder why Cayman don't do away with status…what's the point? You want to give people the impression they good enough to stay and work in your land of paradise, invest and spend all their money but they not good enough to hold certain jobs, to vote, etc? A lower-class of Caymanians. So its ok to spend 20, 30 or more years here working hard and giving dedicated service to the islands and to always be seen as some 'driftwood' piece of foreigner who unfortunately floated onto the beach. A bit hypocritical? Nunsense! Not in a good christian community like this!!! Racism and chauvinism makes for a particularly ugly combo

    • Anonymous says:

      I dont get what you're on about,its the same way in the uk.. We learnt from the best 

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh Please, people to come here to be Caymanian. They come to work and make money!!!

      Getting status is just a means to an end….no work permit. Lets stop this false preaching that people come here to make life better for the people of this country. EVERYONE is looking out for themselves. So, why is it all of a sudden so wrong when Caymanians do it?!!

      If and when (I'm sorry to say), this island takes a nose dive and the economy is gone, everyoner who was screaming that they were "Caymanian" will be high tailing it out of here, looking for the next place to survive. Tha also includes some of the born Caymanians. 

      • Anonymous says:



        Actually, I know a number of born Caymanians who have hightailing it from Cayman, mostly to the U.S., but some to Canada, England and farther afield.  Their reasons are many: in some cases, it's their foreign-born spouse who wants to leave because of the intolerance here and wanting to raise their children in a place that's more, let's say, enlightened. In other cases it's financial, partially because of he high cost of living here. In two other cases, it's because of crime (one was a victim of violent crime). Every one of them left for same reason: They wanted a better life than they had here. It's the same reasons most expats move here. Let's hope the Caymanians who moved away are treated better than the typical expat is treated here

        • Anonymous says:

          The fact that you imply all Caymanians show your attitude of generalizing. As far as "Caymanians being treated better", lets just say that Caymanians usually dont have that attitude of trying to take over other peoples countries and shaping it into some sort class.

        • Anonymous says:

          Expats here are treated better than Caymanians so that is an unrealistic wish.

      • Anonymous says:

        It has nothing to do with caymanian

        The fact is he used the D word and that is much worse than the N word even worse than the C word

        • Snipped says:

          D word; As in: DON’T mess with my toot-toot. N word; As in: NOT today, bo-bo. C word; As in: COD Carrying Caymanian.(the triple c!)

      • We're here to help says:

        Shhh, you’re making too much sense!

    • Anonymous says:

      Those with Status are entitled to vote as of right.

    • Anonymous says:

      Its people want to be given status not the other way.

  68. Anonymous says:

    The ones who voted for him must be cringing. If they are not..they should be. Wrong guy.

    • Anonymous says:

      We are cringing 10:56 but also angry. We only voted for him because he was part of a team that included Anthony Eden, who the rest of these stupid MLAs like Ezzard snigger at but who they could all learn from in the way he deals with his civil servants. Osbourne " Effin Driftwood" Bodden will not get re-elected; he truly is the rubbish Minister. I hope he does not act like that at home.

  69. Anonymous says:

    It's not clear what Ossie is alleged to have said in total but apparently some content indirectly referenced Ms. Ahern's national origin by rudely comparing her to a "piece of driftwood" – as far as I can tell. The general response to these allegations is outrage, correctly so!! However, I take umbrage to those xenophobes who have and post stereotypical sentiments against Caymanians. That attitude is similarly outrageous, vile and totally inaccurate.

    I am a proud, born Caymanian with generational roots as far back as I can trace – eight generations so far. I love my country and people but recognize and acknowledge its/their flaws, shortcomings and failures. I readily recognize the mis-directed sentiments of some of my own against foreigners and recollect that this sentiment was spawned by politicians of the late 1970's through some warped sense of "nationalism" and gobbled up by many – who in turn raised their families with those sentiments. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT I SHARE SIMILAR SENTIMENTS. I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY CAYMANIANS LIKE MYSELF, SO PLEASE DO NOT STEREOTYPE ALL CAYMANIANS WITH THOSE SENTIMENTS WHICH ARE EQUALLY AS HATEFUL AS THOSE BEING CRITICIZED.

    I was raised by respectable and respectful parents who taught their children respect for others – not because or despite of where they were from! When I was growing-up in Cayman in the 1960's and 1970's our family was fortunate enough to afford Jamaican and Honduran helpers; we were taught mainly by UK and Caribbean teachers; treated by UK and Jamaican doctors; myself and my siblings were educated overseas. Many of our parents' dearest friends (until death) were from Jamaica. Today I still have white, English best friends who were my school mates in England 40 years ago. I have friends in Cayman from Canada, South Africa, Italy, UK, USA, Australia, Germany, Jamaica and other Caribbean countries, Central America (and yes, Cayman).  

    In addition to how we were raised, our exposure to foreign cultures at a young age helped us to accept others. Why? Partly because we were accepted by them! Yes, there were childish teasings about being from the small "Caveman Islands" or "wearing grass skirts", etc. but personally I was fully accepted in the two regions of England in which I lived during the 1970's and never once experienced racism or felt unwelcome. My siblings' experiences were generally the same. We were taught and raised to respect (or disrespect) a person by their character and principles – not nationality! I have those traits embedded in me and have raised my children with the same values. Again, there are MANY Caymanian families like that!

    I readily criticize anything and anyone which/whom in my opinion is wrong, regardless of subject, source or nationality and much of my criticism is directed at Caymanians – our politicians and our rotten political and publuc service systems in particular!! I am very disturbed that there are many Caymanians unemployed while many expats work here but that is the result of failed political policies – not the fault of the expat who is seeking a better life for his family! Yes, many foreigners in Cayman do not respect us, our way of life and our heritage but that happens in every other part of the world. That is life!  In some ways, there are Caymanians who portray those stereotypes and give cause to those sentiments by xenophobic foreigners just like them. 

    What really boils my blood are those who smear other people with a xenophobic brush – locals and foreigners alike! Clearly I have no time for those types and I would be the first to tell those type good riddance and the local ones to SHUT UP! But again, every society has those a**holes and clearly we have an abundance in Cayman – native and otherwise!

    WHY DOES CRITICISM HAVE TO BE NATIONALISTIC??!!

     

  70. Anonymous says:

    I cannot believe the  premier and the deputy governor is condoning this behavior. When we constantly hear campaigns about ending abuse and this lady was subjected to such bullying and derogatory remarks and it should blow over. Ozzie is ignorant anyway……we all know that…..and to think he just kicked the one person in her teeth that tries her hardest to mKe him look good tells you how much sense he has. Pity. I hope he figures out everything for himself now cause you don't kick civil servants like that and this they are all going to rally behind you like nothing happen. Premier take note. Civil servants cannot be treated like that. 

    • Anonymous says:

      So going forward. I'm a male minister. Do you think I will be working with a female Chief Officer? Hell no!

    • Anonymous says:

      How on earth have you reached the conclusion that his behaviour is being condoned by the Deputy Gov. and Premier?!

    • Anonymous says:

      10:36  You state " Ozzie is ignorant anyway" .I guess you want to show that you are also capable getting angry and of insulting and demeaning behavior.

  71. Anonymous says:

    alden's response is about as bad as ozzies behaviour……

    • Blue Label Brotherhood says:

      What do you expect? These boys break bread together. The wagons must be circled.

       

  72. Anonymous says:

    And this bunch is better than UDP how? I've never seen more suspensions and mishaps in my life! Alden get your boys together!!

    Home Affairs in a mess too!!

     

    • Anonymous says:

       09:49.Perhaps the reason you are seeing more suspensions etc is because this Government is willing to tackle the tough problems.Maybe other Administrations just let it slide.Just because we have more suspensions recently, that does not mean that there are more infractions ,but more likely a greater willingness to correct what is wrong ,and may have been wrong for some time.

  73. Anonymous says:

    Sadly Alden has no real spine unless he is prodded. The mere fact  he was voted a minister tells you he is protected. No one in their right minds knowing this mans history would have voted him a minister of anything.  Nothing will come of this … What these men should remember is that they all have female off springs that one day may be intelligent powerful women in positions of power. Karma ….well we know what she can be. 

  74. Anonymous says:

    I experienced this as a civil servant as well……all I gonna say is, my Lawyer is looking into the legal ramifications………………

     

    But we have to go after them with Privy council decision otherwise……………..

     

    When and if we issue the writ, NIKI, I will personally e-mail it to you as it will be a public document

  75. Knot S Smart says:

    Maybe she suggested that he put the dump in Bodden Town and that made him vex…

  76. noname says:

    Dear Mr. Osbourne Bodden,

    Children learn what they see. 

    It is obvious from your ignorant and abusive behavior that you were raised amongst males so ignorant that their response to being challenged by a woman is to demean, insult and threaten her.  I would wager that under no circumstances would you have spoken to a male colleague in the manner that you did to Ms. Ahearn. 

    You have shown yourself to be nothing more than a bully.  I have seen two-year olds handle themselves with more maturity and grace than you did. 

    You, Osbourne Bodden are an insult to the position that you hold, an insult to the Cayman Islands Government and the people of this Island. 

    You, Osbourne Bodden are an insult and shame to the 'REAL' Caymanians……..those that love this island and have made it their home, whether Caymanian by birth or paper.

    You, Osbourne Bodden and men of your ilk, are one of the problems of the Caymanian Islands. Egotistical, Mysogynistic and ignorant when threatened by intelligent and strong women you resort to nothing more than bullying. 

    You, Osbourne Bodden, are nothing more than an ignorant bully.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  Unfortunately you don't have the common sense to see that. 

     

     

     

     

  77. Anonymous says:

    Pity they called security and not RCIPS.

  78. Anonymous says:

    Lets compare to the UK, there a member of parliament called a civil servant a "pleb", not only was he forced to resign but ended up paying close to 0.5million legal costs. But then of course the UK doesn't claim to be a strong christian country where hurling rascist abuse is normal.

    • Anonymous says:

      Of course expats call Caymanians worse things than that all the time.

      • Anonymous says:

        09:46, if you don't understand comments, you shouldn't comment on them.

        The point being made is that somone of Osbourne's ranking in Public Office should be removed when they cannot act ina way expected of a person in their position. Much like Mac gambling away the Country's money, he made an abosute mockery of us the People in that whole situation and people like you stil don't get it.

        In any civilized Country they would automatically be removed from Office for their actions becasuse you just dont act that way, and if you do, you get fired.

        The point the previous person was making is that a Member of Parliament called someone "pleb", that is it, and look what happened to them.

        Our Leaders are a complete embarassmet to us as a Country and we should al be ashamed that people like that are representing you.

        They all need to go, starting with Mac and Osbourne. There is no place for people like them in Public Office as a representative of the People.

        And if Alden does not deal with this by removing Osbourne, then he should go as well.

        And the woman involved should be suing the shit out of them and Government as aCaymanian.

        • Anonymous says:

          Oh, I understand the comment alright, AND the hypocrisy that underlies it. That is what I'm commenting on. Horror struck that any such words should be uttered and trying to paint all Caymanians with the same brush when they utter far worse against Caymanians constantly including here on CNS.  

      • Anonymous says:

        Expat MLA's? which one said worse?

      • Anonymous says:

        Just the ones like you.  Most Caymanians I know are worthy of respect.  And yes I am and will always be an expat.

        • Anonymous says:

          Like me? You know nothing about me except that I'm Caymanian so right there you've spoken volumes. It is easy to spot a bigot.

    • Anonymous says:

      If history is any indication, England can't claim anything to be anything.

  79. Knot S Smart says:

    Ozzie for Premier…

  80. Anonymous says:

    Well put. He should be asked for his resignation for that alone. But unless the Premier is a  statesman and not a man bent this way and that by the political winds, he won't be.

    Remember Ezzard and the N-word and 'Lord Cripple'? These ignoramuses get away with murder.

    • Anonymous says:

      I still remember Roy Bodden, former MLA, self proclaimed intellectual and now UCCI President, saying in the Legislative Assembly how he "hates South Africans" and questioning "why we have to accept every bit of driftwood that washes up on our shores". Of course, this outrageous outburst was struck from Hansard, but I was there and I heard it for myself. This divisive atittude of real and paper Caymanians has got to stop and should be enforced by law, as similar 'hate speech' would be in the UK.

      • George Jefferson says:

        It’s perfectly acceptable to hate white people. That is the opposite of racism.

      • Anonymous says:

        08:37. You say "This divisive atittude of real and paper Caymanians has got to stop" while at the same time posting something that is sure to fan the flames. Sorry you can't have it both ways.

        • Anonymous says:

          How is that fanning the flames? I am just giving another example of divisive behavior by the people who are supposed to represent us and saying that it is time it stopped. If that dies not fit in with your Caymanian/expat narrative then I am sorry.

  81. Anonymous says:

    He can be a minister, but he will always be a typical caymanian male.

     

    • Anonymous says:

      That is an ignorant, prejudiced comment.

    • Anonymous says:

       07:42.It is really interesting that you chose to demean,and insult Caymanian men,at the same time that you are criticizing for doing something similar.Of course that is justified in your prejudiced eyes ,because ,well you know,you obviously see Caymanian men as "deserving' it.

  82. Anonymous says:

    Get rid of his ignorant ass at what point does one become a real caymanian

    • Anonymous says:

      After about four generations of the original awardee of Caymanian status being settled here.

      • Anonymous says:

        It's true, go read your Constitution. Read the part about public office, that is the test of being a Caymanian.

  83. Anonymous says:

    One thing is for sure, if it was McKeeva Bush that committed such a disgraceful act, Alden and the rest of the PPM would be calling for way more than a half assed apology!

    What a shame, what a shame.

    • Anonymous says:

      I was a civil servant during McKeeva's time in office and that type of behaviour was so common that it would never make the news.

      • Anonymous says:

        Liar.  If this happened we would have heard it.  Why don't you tell us of the incidents if true.  You probably do not even work for Government. 

         

        • Anonymous says:

          Clearly you aren't a civil servant or don't know anyone who ever worked in the ministry or department of tourism while McKeeva was minister. Talk what you know and you'll avoid looking like an ignorant fool. 

        • Anonymous says:

          The kool-aid is strong in you 20:21

    • No shame says:

      A few years ago I was present at a tourism conference when McKeeva threw a temper tantrum when asked difficult questions by a Compass reporter. This was in front of an international audience. Faced with his continuing verbal abuse, the reporter quietly gathered her papers and left the room.  It was a shocking experience, and in my opinion should have brought downthe Government. The Compass didn't even report the attack, let alone demand an apology. 

  84. Anonymous says:

    Ozzie should go on the talk show circuit like the disgraced mayor of Toronto., Rob  Ford! This story has gone international.it behooves the Premier to take decisive and corrective action.

  85. Diogenes says:

    McLaughlin said that when there are strong personalities who are passionate about their work, differences in opinion will occur. “There was such a variance of opinion between Minister Bodden and his Chief Officer, for which the Minister has already apologised in writing to his Chief Officer and the ministry staff,” he said.  

    The difference in opinion being whether Ahearn should be allowed to be in the Cayman Islands, although quite what that has to do with the job is not apparent to anyone other than the "Honourable" Minister.

  86. Enquirer says:

    None of the reporting has touched on the "cause" of the outburst. What was it that actually led to the Honorable Minister going off to such an extreme? One can only assume that it was a matter of the gravest national importance.

     

    • Anonymous says:

      That's what we all want to know. What caused this man to go, what we keep hearing, totally off the rail? I take a lot of Sh@t but "man oh man" when you cross my "last Straw" I come over the table at you. These would include people questioning my integrity, trying to slander my reputation (same, yeah) etc. Tell us. What caused this man to go on so? 

    • Anonymous says:

      That "Honarable" title was sure a mistake in a lot of cases

  87. Anonymous says:

    The absolute worst part about this whole situation is the fact that this woman who identifies as Caymanian was told by an elected representative of Her Majesty's government that she is not Caymanian.  This is the kind of divisiveness that permeates throughout the Cayman Islands.  Everyone is shocked by Mr. Bodden's comments but he is not the only elected member to feel this wa.  The comments on this message board and others that disparage anyone who does not come from the 5 famiies of the Cayman Islands is long standing.  People who have lived and worked here for years barely surviving and who were given status grants are dragged throughthe media as contributing to crime and violence and for living off social services. 

    This kind of thinking is not only for the lumpen in the Cayman Islands but clearly is believed by our Honourable elected members of the Legislative Assembly.  How horrible must Ms. Ahearn and her family be feeling right now when everyone has heard that she is not even worthy of holding the post that she has worked and educated herself for most of her life to hold.  You are nothing but a piece of ****ing driftwood.  And to think that the Honourable Premier is going to dismiss it as passionate people trying to do their jobs. I wonder if Ezzard who is married to a woman who is not originally from the Cayman Islands realises that this is how a fellow Caymanian thinks about those of us who fall in love and marry the man or woman of our dreams. 

    Surely the Premier and the Deputy Governor cannot think that an email apology would suffice in this situation?  This calls for more not only from the Minister himself but also from the members of the Legislative Assembly who need to stand up to this type of abuse from our elected officials.  

    • Anonymous says:

      With all due respect to this clear, concise and well thought out opinion of which I completely agree, perhaps Ezzard Miller is not the best person to use in this role.

      • Drift Coconuts says:

        Kurt was born in Jamaica. Moses was born in the USA. Does Ossie think they are "real Caymanians"?

         

    • Anonymous says:

      How horrible must Ms. Ahearn and her family be feeling right now when everyone has heard that she is not even worthy of holding the post that she has worked and educated herself for most of her life to hold.

       

      I guess she's [Ms. Ahearn] feeling the same way Caymanians who have educated themselves and now left with student loans are feel when employers tell them that they are not worthy of a position.  

      Bodden is a fool.  We've seen fools from Canada, US, UK and so on.  So, they're not unique to Cayman!

    • Anonymous says:

      But wait a minute; this is how a molehill becomes a mountain. Stop generalizing. There, apparently was only one woman in that room – Ms. Ahearn. Mr. Miller's wife was not in that room. Minister Bodden was speaking to his Chief Officer within a context that we still know nothing about. We know what he said – or what he alledgedly said; however, we don't know what the Chief Officer said to him. Up to this point all I'm reading and hearing are people's emotions about the Caymanian vs. "Paper Caymanian" rubbish. What is the context of this argument between Minister Bodden and Chief Officer Ahearn?  Give me the facts and I can make up my own mind. Dang!     

      • Diogenes says:

        What does it matter what the trigger was?  Are you saying the behaviour is acceptable in certain circumstances? 

        • Anonymous says:

          Yes!!!! It depends on what the argument was about! SMH!!! We don't know what she said! It seems from all the uproar that she stepped into the room and he exploded! If that is all that happened then, "Yes", he is the villan. There must be more to this story. Noone goes from 0 to 100, emotively, for absolutely no reason.    

    • Anonymous says:

                06:21.At first glance one might get the impression that you are against divisiveness,that is until the vey next sentence where you support divisiveness when you imply that all Caymanians come from 5 families,suggesting that they are inbred and somehow inferior.This is further supported by the use of the Marxist word "lumpen" which means low class.This all suggests that you are a foreigner who sees Caymanians as inferior and low class.So before you preach about the speck of dust in someones eye,first remove the boulder that is blocking your view.

  88. Anonymous says:

    He should resign simply for the "not proper Caymanian" comment.

  89. Anonymous says:

    The reports in the press indicate that not was this criminally abusive, it had racist underpinnings.  Surely a full police investigation is appropriate.

    • Anonymous says:

      Don't be silly.  You must know by now that a "born Caymanian" is allowed to be racist, to bully in the work place, to be less than adequate at what they do.  Indeed on and on the list goes as to what a "born Caymanian" can do without facing any consequences.  In fact the worst thing that can happen is to be moved sideways, a whole department to be created to absord you or put on permanent full paid leave.  

      • Anonymous says:

        I would like to clarify what this poster has put.  Its not all Caymanians that are in this lucky position of being above the law hence Northwood bursting at the seems with our fellow countrymen.  However, there is certainly merit in what was posted.

      • Anonymous says:

                   07:55 How insulting and degrading to Caymanians,but note the absence of outrage ,which suggests that the majority of commenters support your point of view.

  90. Anonymous says:

    Represent!

  91. Bluff Patrol says:

    Cabinet reshuffle please.  

    • Anonymous says:

      reshuffle with what????? its like re-arranging deck chairs on the titanic….

  92. Anonymous says:

    Quite alot of Cayman Men are accustomed to bullying their wives, girl friends and even their mothers. You would be surprised to know how many men held in high esteem that abuse their partners, however they usually hide it on their jobs and to John Public.

    • Anonymous says:

      02:17.Of course quite a lot of foreign men are accustomed to ,bullying and some even murder their wives ,girlfriends etc.Wonder why you chose to omit that fact. 

  93. Anonymous says:

    I'm not condoning Ozzie's actions but the way I see it; if the Commissioner of Police can be "given a break" by the Governor for hiring a murderer into the RCIPS and paying him full salary for three years, then Ozzie can be "given a break" for loosing his cool with his chief officer – over work related matters.    

    Come on Caymanians, let's not go any further into C.B.S. (Crab in the Barrel Syndrome) as it does us no good. Get over it, let's move on and get some positive work accomplished for the Cayman Islands.  

    • Fred the Piemaker says:

      Yeah, lets not deflect Ozzie from the positive work he is doing, like…um… 

      • Anonymous says:

        Positive! when last have you been to the Hospital, Dump or visited CINICO?

        That qualifies for the joke of the year

        • Anonymous says:

          The Minister does not do the work, he directs and the Board Chairpersons or the Chief Officer are supposed to make sure the Minister's directions are carried out. So, if you have a problem with HSA, CINICO or DEH, it will be the Board Chairperson(s) or the Chief Officer's fault.

          • Anonymous says:

            09:28, have you ever been employed before?

            If someone is in charge, and nothing gets done, who's fault is it?

            The person in charge you moron.

             

            • Anonymous says:

              So, as your boss or supervisor, if i tell you to do something at work and you dont do it, I'm the one who should be fired?

            • Anonymous says:

              Except when it comes to Baines.

    • Anonymous says:

      So his racist comments is work related or the fabric he is made of?

    • Anonymous says:

      Here we go again.  How many times does it have to be said that Baines was not responsible for the hiring of a police officer with rogue references.  Besides If this incident had happened between a Caymanian police office and Baines, Baines would have been relieved from his post.  As it is, Izzard gives the majority of decent Caymanians a bad name and he is certainly the ugly face of an underlying racism at the heart of our community.

  94. Anonymous says:

    Stress! What people need to remember is that when you take an oath to serve the people, that means keep your phone on, wallet open and notepad ready! Stress is a bitch. Snap! And more to come….

  95. Anonymous says:

    Committed the  offence of DISORDERLY CONDUCTt under the Penal Code and the offence of INSULTING THE MODESTY OF A WOMAN. The CO can walk off tthe job for being Constructively Dismissed. This is laid down in Statute and Common Law. In Re-Isle of Wight Tourist Board A woman was called"an intolerable Bitch" and the Court ruled that the woman was constructively dismissed from he Job So this Minister should be called to account under the Law. All persons are equal under the ordinary law of the land. If he can get away why should ordinary citizen be ragged into court for similar incidents? And CNS please publish this comment. Not because he is a Cabinet Minister. We voted for him but his action is disgraceful and divissive

  96. The Marlroad Daily Reporter says:

    May I suggest that all of our Political Leaders and others in high positions in Government be aware that political office tends to imbue with a sense of power. The reason for my saying this: It is a known fact that even the brightest of minds [no matter the age] can suffer from this malady a thing called "psychosis" [which even men like "Einstein" was known to have had a few episodes] It causes a mental malfunction, which causes the individual to suffer from the following:

    An idiosyncratic belief or impression that is "firmly maintained" despite being contradicted by "what is generally accepted as reality" and/or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder. This is not directed at any one individual, but is written with the intent that all those who are, or aspire to be our leaders, the following is known to affect all of us, but it is [for some reason] exacerbated in those who attain political office more often than in the average person. Think ! Mugabi, Papa Doc, Noriega, Hitler, Stalin and on, and on.

    They all were delusional and suffered from a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality. So my advice to all our political leaders is: Stay humble, admit your short-comings and remember you are only human like the rest of us.

    So don't let Mr. EGO tell you that you're smarter or more important than the rest of us. Don't believe him! Cause when the shit hits the fan, he's gonna be the first to start laughing at your sorry ass.

    Merry Christmas.

  97. Misogyny for two....please says:

    I see the misogyny has remained part of the institution.  Alden's response was weak, he should have condemned the behaviour.  Alden's passiveness is not a good quality for a leader to have.  Where are the women?  Tara, Lucille, Juliana….what annoys me the most is how Little House on the Prairie women in this country are.  Male privilege at its finest.  And this whole issue of paper Caymanians – build a bridge and get over it.  BODDEN is a surname from where?  I was born in these Islands and lived here all my life.  When someone obtains the right to be Caymanian, whether you like it or not, they are Caymanian.  Stop acting like that nationality is the express line to heaven.  She is a CO and no doubt heavily burdened with responsibility.  No one deserves to be treated that way and he is a poor leader for setting that example.  He is a big baby clearly in over his head, dealing with matters he CANNOT succeed at.  An educated accountant does NOT a successful politician make.

    • Anonymous says:

      Did you just mention Alden and leadership in the same sentence.  Surely not. 

  98. Straightforward says:

    There has much fun poked at this situation but, this is no laughing matter.

    I must say that the Premier's comments are insulting to our intelligence, the Minister for Health goes on a verbal rampage and the Premier pulls a bland and standard reply out of the bag, assuring the public that the work of the Health Ministry will continue. It is with a "heavy heart" that I must say the Premier is trying to deceive the public by making diversionary remarks.

    Public, Ossie blew his top but, don't think this was a spontaneous reaction: the cause of the blowup has been brewing a long time. XXXXX

    What is the most likely result? No change at all, statement will be issued to say misunderstanding has been resolved. Next most likely outcome? A move around of Chief Officers.

    Finally, Premier your comments are not believed. 

    • Anonymous says:

      This response is typical alden gibberish and shows how weak he is as a leader. Ossie must go for being a racist hog it's that straightforward. 

  99. Anonymous says:

    Our thoughts are with you Jennifer.  Misogyny and racism all in one go. No one should have to bear that in their workplace, least of all from a Cabinet Minister. Don't let anyone tell you to keep your head down and get over it – it is wrong!  Stand strong, you have our support!

    • Married to a Caymanian says:

      What a shameful fall. I have been here over 20 years, married to a seventh generation family that includes our founding families. and despite my daily community charity efforts, I am still not accepted as a local? My children are Caymanain and Ozzie shames us all when he challenges Jennifer for not being a proper Caymanian. That woman has PROVEN herself to be local and either by blood or bonds- is as much of this land as the racist politicians. 

       

  100. Merry Xmas says:

    Well, it seems the majority of you here are jumping on Mr. Bodden without even getting the true story. As someone asked in a previous post, what caused him to get so upset? The man didn't just come to work and decide he was going to lose his cool just for the hell of it. What Government should look into is the way some hard working Caymanian civil servants are being treated in the workplace everyday by some non-Caymanian workers. I know of an going situation that would make Government look bad if it was to ever go public.Shame on you that are higher up in Government who are making no efforts to look out for your own people.

  101. Anonymous says:

    My children go to Prep School and are expected to sign a anti bullying pledge every year. Those children are expected to resolve conflicts in a civil manner otherwise they are suspended for a period of time or even expelled. And you are telling me this is the example set by the Minister of Youth and this nonsense is tolerated? When is this country going to wake up and hold elected officials responsible for their wrongdoing? Premier, i think you have a decision to make! 

  102. Anonymous says:

    I worked with Jennifer Ahearn years ago.  She is highly efficient and competent. XXXX

    It also goes to the way men see women.  In other dependent territories, they incuding Cayman, treat women as trophies and never as equals.  They feel that they are cavemen who women must treat as gods while the men sleep around.

    Last, the law says that what Ossie did is common assault and insulting the modesty of a woman – also illegal.   I voted for him  but NEVER again  He has poven to be arrogant, self serving and ignorant.  

    How can Jennifer work with him now.   His shortcomings will now be more obvious.

    Best of luck Jennifer   we got your back!

    • Anonymous says:

      She "can work with him" because she is a paid professional! OMG! This is a working relationship. We all work, or have worked, with people we would not be caught out with in a social setting. You are my coworker not my spouse or friend.  

  103. Anonymous says:

    What a despicable answer Mr. Premier.

    This is the problem we have as a country. We expect politicians to lead and manage without them having the training and skills developed before they are appointed. It is not an exercise for on the job training at our expense.

    Mr. Premier please tell us what school of management you attended, to delve into Organisational Psychology in the manner you have done by simplicitly labelling the conflict as "two strong personalities passionate about their work."

    Obviously there are also cultural issues and differences at stake, and the issue also underscores the fact that all Chief Officers should be of significant Caymanian heritage to also be Constitutionally compliant to deputise for the Deputy Governor in the LA.

    Manderson, please take note. 

    • 2nd Gen Paper Caymanian says:

      When did these islands become a country? Cayman is and hopefully remains a British Overseas Territory.  Our "National" Leaders have often disgraced us by their shameful behaviour and it continues to amazes just who we will vote in.

      Setting aside some people's grandiose ideas of what this place is, our politicians are equivalent to a small town council as there are less than 60,000 residents and their "work" is accomplished on a part-time basis.  Bodden town is about 10,000 people served by 4 MLA's, so I think they could manage just fine is the Minister were to do the honourable thing and step down.

  104. Anonymous says:

    Isn't there some archaic law about disparaging the modesty of a woman or something along those lines? I think it's a stupid law…but if it's on the books then…

     

    • Anonymous says:

      Hope he didn't hit her with a cow cod!

    • Anonymous says:

      insulting the modesty of a Woman.

    • Anonymous says:

      … Then, get rid of it!
      Women can’t have it both ways – even tho its wrong, both genders can be ‘insulted’, bullied or abused by the other sex.
      It’s just that women can be more catty with it. Hehe

      • Anonymous says:

        True. If I were a male minister I wouldn't want a female Cheif Officer after this debacle!

    • If it quacks like a duck... says:

      There is, but as they say, different strokes for different folks. 

    • Banana in your tailpipe says:

      *raises hand. ‘Insulting the modesty of a woman’ – I was the subject of a police warning after saying the F word in front of a woman, she didn’t like it and called and reported. Funny how it’s a one-way street.

  105. Anonymous1 says:

    Entitled bully who thinks he's powerful and everyone else is there to do his bidding.  Just like most other MLAs.

    • Anonymous says:

      Very well said. I sat horrified reading this article and no words or statements could I form and then I read your short but sweet sentiments which are spot on

  106. Anonymous says:



    Ozzie committed the offence of Disorderly Conduct and causing distress and alarm and should be suspended from duty pending a full investigation.  Politicians should be no better favoured than Civil Servants and deserve no immunity and impunity.  And if the investigation shows that there is sufiiet evidence, he should be charged and removed from office.  End of story.  A born Caymanian who believes in law and order and respect for others.  And by the way, Ozzie can make good of the last vote he got from me as that is the last time he'll ever get my vote.

  107. Anonymous says:

    with this uncouth behaviour from our elected officials and ministers at that,  is it any wonder that the country is going to hell in a handbasket!

    these actions are no better than the shootings and stabbings that go on in the streets at the heat of the night.

    Please somebody, help us to get back civilization.

     

    • Anonymous says:

      Say What?  "no better than shootings and stabbings on the street", insane comment,

  108. Cya Hep Dem says:

    Honorable for life……..

    Typical combination of oversized ego with swaggering mediocrity.

  109. Anonymous says:

    Ignorance and power – a bad combination!!

  110. Anonymous says:

    Here comes Required Leave = a five year PAID vacation for Jennifer courtesy of the Deputy Governor

  111. Anonymous says:

    We refer to these Ministers as "Honorable" and in turn deserve to expect behavior that reflects such respect.

    Ozzie has shamed himself, but I am not even sure that he knows it.

    • philip says:

      the term honorable was something the MLA's themselves passed within the LA, without a member of the pubic having any input whatsoever, and its for life, absolute disgrace, i can not believe that the general public let this one slip past 

  112. Anonymous says:

    This article presents a very one sided view of this incident,I will wait for more information before offering up a further comment..That Ministry has a lot of work to get done,hope the Minister and the CO will work it out between them and get on with thework of the Ministry.

    CNS: We invited the minister to give his side of the story and would happlily publish it if received. We can do no more than provide people with the opportunity. 

    • Anonymous says:

      NO, 16:20, I was there and it was not a one sided view that CNS gave. In fact, it is far worse than their version. A question for you: did he tell her she was not even a real Caymanian? Yes or no?. Think carefully before answering because there were many witnesses as it was that bad a scene he created.

      • Class Act II says:

        Honestly given our experience with Ozzie has resulted in faily low expectations for his performance it is still shocking that he apparently can't even hold his temper in an open office setting.  If what I have heard is remotely true his actions are truly vile and the Premier should remove him from Cabinet.  He had any class he would resign and seek treatment.

        An email apology does not cut it and he likely should face criminal investigation.

        • Anonymous says:

          But he wont because McLaughlin would have to grow a pair and he is bessy mates with him.  That my fellow blogger is the nub of the problem of public life in Cayman.  Political parties headed up by inadequate XXXX, Ministers appointed on patronage and not on ability, and an island run by 10 families.  Caymanians, please wake up…its not Dart that is the problem, it is your 10 families that are at the centre of many of the issues destroying this beautiful island.

          • Anonymous says:

            Which 10 are those exactly?

            • Anonymous says:

              Bodden, Ebanks, Miller, McLaughlin, Eden, Watler, Mc coy, Connolly, Rankine,  McLean, Ritch, Merren, Kirkconnell. Any others? Of course they are all interbreeding with foreigners despite the hating that goes on.

              • Anonymous says:

                The Jackson's were some of the first settlers and their offspring may not necessarily have that surname through intermarriage.

              • Anonymous says:

                Millers, Kirkconnells and Merrens were not among the first settlers. Just saying. (Sorry Ezzard). If you go back to the 1700s you need to add in Tatums, Jacksons and Parsons.

            • Anonymous says:

              Yeah! Which 10?

    • Anonymous says:

      Neither side will tell you what happened, CNS. Ahearn because she dare not. Boddenbecause he was totally out of his mind at the time and said some truly dreadful things.

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree with the comment by 16:20. Bexause of the pathetically weasily comments by the Premier and Mr Manderson, the true horror and disgrace of Mr Bodden's  verbal abuse of his civil servant is not properly revealed in CNS's article. Not their fault. They are waiting for something that really describes the disgusting episode and that will not come because Ahearn is a civil servant and bodden is going to be trying to hold on to his positionand will say nothing.

      • Anonymous says:

        Maybe Ahearn could tell it straight, maybe.

      • Anonymous says:

        If you are waiting for a detailed discussion of the events from Alden then you will wait until the cows come home because such a discussion will never happen.

        This type of political embarrassment is swept under the carpet all over the world.

    • Anonymous says:

      You did not get Ahearn's side of the story either, only what you were told by her co-workers, I assume

      CNS: The account is based on what we have been told by witnesses to the incident, which is not Ms Ahearn's "side" or the minister's "side", though, as clearly stated in the article, they were both asked for a statement.

  113. Anonymous says:

    The response from Alden is very lame and seems to dodging the issue based on the article Ozie should be forced to step down. 

    As a Minister that is noway to speak to your staff

  114. Anonymous says:

    Classless.  Utterly classless.

    • Anonymous says:

      Ossie was dumb enough to share his true thoughts in anger but no surprises there. Sadly he publicly uttered a view shared by of some of his elected colleagues in the PPM who feel the same way as him about many new Caymanians. The PPM have never been inclusive its  leadership along with its supporter base is very anti-expatriate.

      "you are not even Caymanian, you are like a piece of f&king driftwood" captures the trueessence of a man who must be removed as a minister immediately. Imagine the public reaction if the UDP were in power and its tyrannical leader was caught doing the same thing as the current minister of health…

      If Alden supports this sort of behavior from a member of his government. It says everything about him as a leader and condones bullying, bigotry and threatening behavior towards women.

  115. Anonymous says:

    Required leave… wait for it.

  116. Anonymous says:

    Why hasn't he been arrested, or 'suspended' pending an investigation and replacement? 

  117. Anonymous says:

    Just what some Civil Servants need. Let them know who the Boss is Ossie and the Civil Service Association can do what they want about it.

  118. Anonymous says:

    So Ossie this is your idea of CaymanKind ???? The Premier said that he took prompt action…….Bull Sh*t !!! The prompt and appropriate action would be the removal of the Minister and his return to the backbench.

    But the real question is whether the PPM is really any different than the UDP ????

    What the Minister did constitutes offences under our Penal Code. The offences are called "Disorderly Conduct (by the use of indecent language)" and "Causng Intentional Harassment, Alarm or Distress". People appear in court everyday for these offences.

    Let us see if the RCIPS will submitt a flle to the Director of Public Prosecutions office and what her ruling will be !!!

     
    • Anonymous says:

      Noone will come forward as a witness. The Public Prosecutor will not be able to make a case. We will be wasting our public money on a case the judge will be forced to throw out. Vent and move on quickly … clock is ticking. In the law firm I work in all you "Looky Loos" would be fired. Get back to work. Dang!  

  119. PeopleFor a Dump Free G.T. says:

    Let us hope, for the sake of our entire populace, that this was triggered by her telling him exactly where the dump needs to go.

  120. Anonymous says:

    Who is a worse minister Ozzie or Tara? 

    • Anonymous says:

      What will the minister of gender affairs say about this? 

    • Fred the Piemaker says:

      Well, tough choice, but at the end of the day, whilst neither achieves anything, at least Tara doesnt go around assaulting her staff

  121. Anonymous says:

    Our how our politicos demonstrate their intellectual and professional skills in public…in any other place he would be falling on his sword or being escorted by the police to the station for charging with verbal assault, offensive behaviour or similar charges.

    But we are not in Kansas anymore, Toto…

    • noname says:

      Or lack thereof…

    • The Judge says:

      No, we're not in Kansas anymore………. and we never will be if we don't get some "politicos" with the "intellectual and professional skills" you mentioned.      Fat chance!

  122. Anonymous says:

    Alden, please do not try to cover this up.  Ozzie is overdue for the use of his COW COD  Ms Ahearn, if you have any guts, you need to sue him and the Department for the abuse and slanderous words.   Absolutey no repect for the woman OZZIE NEED TO BE STOPPED from abusing women.  He should be asked to resign.

  123. Anonymous says:

    Step ougkside!!!!

     

    I'll make Madsen Square Gaaden outta you!!

  124. Ronnie says:

    And to say the least the man wants to implement a law to stop me from smoking? Yet he verbally abuses his CO and nothing is done?

  125. haranguer rides again. says:

    Move the dump Ozzie!

  126. Anonymous says:

    WOW Ozzie, what an wonderful role model you are to our children.  First, and foremost, you have always come across as arrogant, so no suprises here. To be yelling and disrespecting your CO in front of people just goes to show how ignorant you are. I believe there is a time and place for everything, and you could have handled it differently,  Females being verbally abused isn't anything new, but when I see my elected MLA's doing it, it just tells me that we women here in Cayman have a long road ahead especially when the "Minister of Health" is at the healms. Oh well, I hope you are removed from your post so that you can fall off that high horse you are on.

  127. Anonymous says:

    my poor country, what a mess. If this is the best we can come up with to govern us into the future we are doomed, doomed an doomed!!!

  128. Anonymous says:

    As well as cursing her, he referred to her as not even a real Caymanian. Cayman can never prosper in the long run if we get this corrosive attitude being expressed even by Cabinet Ministers. Ironically, in this case, Ms Ahearn was married to a (born) Caymanian and they have two (born) Caymanian children together.So sad. Mr Bodden should be deeply ashamed of himself for setting such a terrible example to younger Caymanians everywhere.

    • Expat Andy says:

      You are so right, I feel embarassed for my Caymanian friends and neighbours that this man is holding elected office. 

      I would quote Ron White and Bill Engval, but somethings can't be fixed and I'm sure there already is a sign at the Ministers house in BT.

  129. Anonymous says:

    This is not surprising from Ozzie. Does anyone rememebr how he threw a tantrum on New 27 the last time PPM did not get in? Does anyone remember the manner in which he spoke down to the people of Bodden Town for not voting him in? I always though he was too incompetent to be a Minister, but hey i guess the premier thought he was competent enough to deal with the rubbish. How far have we gotten with that? Its time for Ozzie to go and for the Cayman community to get value for the salary we pay him! This guy is full of rubbish!

  130. Anonymous says:

    Interesting that this all took place on 10th December, which is the date that United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; a declaration which recognises equality and dignity for all individuals. Shame the (dis)honorable Minister didn't know this, but then again are we surprised?

  131. SKEPTICAL says:

    Ignorant man who resorts to violent behavior when he is afraid that he is losing an argument. Common response for people with a sense of personal insecurity, worried that they are not up to the job.

  132. Big Dumper says:

    Maybe if he gets charged by the RCIPS we can get the dump moved to Bodden Town a few years early!

  133. noname says:

    I guess she will be joining Mary Rodrigues on the special government project Franz assigned her when she was removed from Ministry Education.  LOL gotta love these soap operas

  134. Anonymous says:

    He is nothing but a BULLY !  he is bullying us into living with the stinky poison dump !

    so sad !

    • Anonymous says:

      13:47.I just knew that the dump was at the heart of all this opposition.

  135. gotta love life says:

    What a mess.  Well you know how this story gonna end, jennifer enjoy your permanent vacation on th eppl of the Cayman lsands.  This country is in a lot of trouble, what a sad state of affairs.

  136. Anonymous says:

    I thought it was against the law here to carry on that way in a public building. Why weren't the police called and him arrested???? ….bullying to boot. If this is how the minister acts then god help us all. 

    Useless I say, all of them.  Paid way to much for having no clue.

  137. laugh says:

    The dollhouse is crumbling everyday.  LOL

  138. Anonymous says:

    What do you expect from an uneducated gas station owner? He's clearly in over his head and his frustration is showing. 

    • Anonymous says:

      Uh… I believe he was an accountant in private sector and has a bachelor’s… might evn be a CPA from what I remember… not saying what he did is any less wrong… just that being uneducated is not the problem here.

  139. Fred the Piemaker says:

    In breaking news – Ahearn goes on paid leave until the earlier of a) her retiring or dieing b) the current party in power losing the next election AND the next administration not having promised her post to someone else.  Kiss goodbye to another few hundred K (at least) of tax payers money because a grown man cannot keep his temper in check.  Would be a lot cheaper to fire Ozzie as a minister and appoint someone a little more temperate, but that would be asking the Premier to put country before party.  

  140. peter milburn says:

    How dat song go again Bullie bullie.

  141. Anonymous says:

    Ahhhhhh…Cowcod Bodden if I am not mistaken – maybe nothing more than just another frightening display of temper.

    Another day through the Looking Glass

  142. Anonymous says:

    Unna dont know the man unna vote for……

    • Anonymous says:

      Dis is wha happin wen unuh wote inn uneducated ppl. She lucky he didn't have his cow cod handy.

      • Anonymous says:

        Except that Ozzie is educated. Trained accountant.

      • Anonymous says:

        Ozzie was voted in because he joined the PPM party, and they demanded their followers to VOTE STRAIGHT all candidates on the PPM ticket. So that's how I think he got in and that's how we are played by our own party-system. We hate indepedents so much I guarantee when next election comes we will put in another party in power.

      • Anonymous says:

        13:06.Having a bad temper has nothing to do with one's level of education.However your post does say a lot about your level of education.

      • Anonymous says:

        Te sad thing is, 13:06, Osbourne is not uneducated. Neither is Ezzard or Arden. But they all have this aggressive side especially when dealing with people who are "not true Caymanians".

        • Expat Andy says:

          And hear I have always heard how the meek and gentle Caymanian people have been used and abused by the evil Expats because they were too kind and generous to push back agaisnt the unwashed foreigner devils.

          You can't have it both ways.  I would love to see an definition of what make a pure true born Caymanian.

          • Anonymous says:

            Look up Cayman Ataxia for the definition of a pure trueborn

            • Cass says:

              @ 8:07 A true native Caymanian is not that. Shame on you for being such an a$$!

              A true native is: 

              >Born here

              >Mother & Father born here

              >Grandparents born here

              >Caymanian upbringing

              I speak for myself, but I have done my homework and you cannot sell me that garbage.

              BTW, my parents are not related to each other, I am not the result of an incestous marriage.

              (See below for a definition of what 8:07 calls a trueborn) 

              "Cerebullar ataxia, cayman type is characterized by psychomotor retardation, hypotonia, and cerebullar dysfunction. The prevelance is unknown but the discorder is very rare in the general population. However, a founder mutation has led to a high incidence in the CAYMAN ISLANDS population. The disorder is transmitted as an autosomal recessive trait and is caused by mutations in the ATCAY gene, encoding Caytaxin."

              Peace.

               

               

               
            • Anonymous says:

              What hypocrisy! Quite ready to post nasty hateful comments about Caymanians while condemning xenophobia.

            • Anonymous says:

              08:07And you are a prime example of the hatred ,racism and xenophobia that many Caymanians endure on a constant basis from persons who share your point of view.

    • Anonymous says:

      No man or woman should complain of lack of sex with the way this government screws us.

    • Anonymous says:

      RESIGN NOW Minister Bodden!

      The statement from the Premier was laughable. The Premier must reshuffle Cabinet now and sacrifice Ossie to save his government. It's time to promote Anthony Eden or Alva Suckoo in order to steady the PPM sinking ship.

  143. Anonymous says:

    Stand your ground Jennifer. No civil servant should ever be subjected to such abuse. Especially by someone who has been elected by people to serve them. He is not a GOD!

    • Snipped says:

      Should that not be ‘He is not a COD’ ?

    • Anonymous says:

      Stand her ground?! She would be well advised to run for cover lest that cow cod catch her!

    • Fred the Piemaker says:

      He is certainly not a god – he is an insecure man who cannot handle critcism or comment (from a women ) without resorting to abuse, and without the self control to avoid doing it in public.  Yet he is appointed as a government minister.  I am sure that in every government ministers lose it with their chief civil servant – but most have the self control to do it in private.  The man has the self awareness, restraint and commonsense of a toddler, and we have him as a minister.  God help us.  And as for those who advocate independence, how can you be serious when we elect clowns like this.  Hell, the UK fired the development minister for calling a policemen a "pleb".  Are we going to tolerate this pathetic display?  If so, kiss goodbye to a) the money we will have to pay Ahern because Ozzie cant keep his temper in check b) any pretension to being a grown up government.  The Premier needs to grow a pair, consign Ozzie to the back benches, and appoint someone a little more grown up and sensible like Winston. 

  144. Anonymous says:

    Thank God he didn't have that cow cod in his hand again…If I were Jenifer, I would be very careful.

    • Anonymous says:

      Jen Jen you betta thread lightly with Ozzie. Where as Keke will only cuss yah out Ozzie will reach for his cow cod.

  145. Anonymous says:

    He is so professional –  I am so proud of Ozzie – NOT!!!! Why is everyone so surprised?? ?

  146. Anonymous says:

    Disputes, even shocking, distressing, and sustained use of exceptionally foul language (this depends on what you are used to hearing daily), are relatively common between Ministers and their Chief Officers. I have witnessed a few myself, however, they were always male speaking to male.

     

    What people are (erroneously) making out to be the BIG difference (and a BIG DEAL) in this situation is that Minister Bodden spoke this way to a female Chief Officer. If use of this type of language happens all the time between Ministers and Chief Officers, why is this one causing such a stir in the media?

     

    Aren't female Chief Officers supposed to be considered equal to male Chief Officers?

    • Anon says:

      I disagree. No one, male or female, should be subjected to bullying.

      • Anonymous says:

        What was the cause of the argument? He is her boss and needs to tell us what made him explode in a fit of rage

        • AnnaMouse says:

          Maybe because he not so smart and it made his brain hurt to read big words in an email.  Who cares if he hasn't resigned by sundown on Friday he should be unceremoniously dumped by the Premier.

          • Anonymous says:

            22:08.Of course you see nothing wrong with you insulting Ozzie ,while calling for his resignation for insulting Jennifer.

            • AnnaMouse says:



              I'm not insulting him directly, my point is the the reason for the tirade doesn't matter.  I could have said he was tired from staying up late watching TV, it doesn't matter.  Or maybe it was after lunch and he was intoxicated.  I really don't know wy he lost it on her in the middle of the office. The issue is clearly his no matter what the ultimate provocation if any was, something is wrong with the man. Maybe he should be pittied and offered professional help, maybe he is just a jerk.

        • Anonymous says:

          Yes, let us know the details of why he flipped out. What caused his reaction?

           

          I truly suspect we will never know the full details of what happened, only hearsay from others who may or may not have been near by at the time, and the whole thing will be covered up by the Deputy Governor placing her on Required Leave (paid vacation) for a few years.

           

          But if THAT happens, then I suggest we all march to expose what happened and why she is placed on Required Leave. Everyone is saying it is a work-related matter right? So the public has a right to know.

          • Anonymous says:

            Darn straight! I Say the same thing! Tell us "blow-for-blow" what happened.

        • Anonymous says:

          If the details are in emails, you can make a FOI request.

      • Anonymous says:

        My friend, this happens all the time in the private sector, not only here Cayman but all over the world.

         

        Are you thinking that a boss cursing at other employees (male or female) only happens in the Govt in Cayman? How many times has this happened in the private sector in Cayman – everyday – and the media does not print one word about it?

         

        I am not saying it is the right behavior for someone to curse at another, but why is it a big deal in the media now, when it happens everyday.

        • Anon says:

          You appear to have missed the point. No one, male or female, working in private or public sector, whether manager or junior staff should be subjected to any form of bullying. Just because it happens elsewhere, does not make it acceptable. There are ways far more civilized and respectful to convey one's disagreement. Cursing, insults and personal attacks are out of line. Period.

           

          • Anonymous says:

            It is irrelevant what cause his outburst.  He is her boss and is therefore expected to treat her or indeed any of his employees with dignity and respect.  There is no excuse for his racist remarks but I am not surprised.  Both he and McLaughlin are part of a certain section of the community who hate expats.

        • Anonymous says:

          Because my friend we are Civil Servants and should behave in a way that is exemplary.  Think about it, as a Member of the Legislative Assembly this man is often in the position of pushing forward policies that may require us to change our behaviours i.e. stop smoking campaign.  How can he tell anyone what is good for them, or how to behave when he is singularly unable to handle conflict in a reasonable and mature way.  

        • Anonymous says:

          Just because it happens to you all the time does not mean it happens to any one else.  Belive it or not most people, Caymanian or expat, do not have to listen to some one else abuse them all the time.

      • Anonymous says:

        or subject to the cow cod!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      According to Cayman Islands Law this is still an OFFENSE. 

      Haul his ass into jail.

      • Anonymous says:

        13:17.Name the Law and the specific section of the law.

        • Anonymous says:

          Offending the modesty of a woman, hello! Have you never been inside any government building where they have this clearly outlined?

          • Anonymous says:

            Were you around when McKeeva Bush in the LA for all to hear on Radio Cayman insulted the modesty of Bridget McPartland being in the "Grass piece?"  All time open insult to a woman in the Cayman Islands. No one tops McKeeva's insults.

          • Anonymous says:

            What about offending the modesty of a man? Isn't this rather sexist?

          • Anonymous says:

            But only if one is drunk. Read the sign carefully!

    • Not common at all says:

      I have a friend who works with Ministers and COs at CIG and he has advised me that these sort of incidents are not common at all. Whether the rage was directed at a female or male CO should not make a difference as you say – it is wrong to address anyone that way – whether they are your senior, junior or college at the same level on the organization chart. This is not widespread behavior within civil service or elected officials most of whom I understand act professionally on floor 5 of CIG administration offices.

    • Anonymous says:

      Agreed. Unfortunate but true. Bosses get angry every day. Well-paid senior personnel and not so well-paid junior staff around the world suck it up and move on. I'm sure there were strong feelings on either side of this dispute. We don't know the full story so let's reserve judegement. The minister apologized.

      I pay both these people with my tax dollar and would expect that they both as professionals will get pass this and move on. I am not in favour of either of them going on required leave, as they are both well-paid. If they both agree to the resign from the Service and the LA so we can get and pay new replacements – fine. Maybe they should both go look new jobs if they have been so wronged. Any way … it's less expensive to move forward than back.  Work this out and move on. Trash needs to be sorted, health administration issues dealt with, sports to be played, youth to helped and culture to be appreciated. Move along, everyone. Nothing here to see.          

      • Anonymous says:

        13.38 BT  MLA you wining again.  Shut up.

      • Anonymous says:

        Did you mean "plenty NOT to see" as in resigning because you have brought the Civil Service into disrepute, broken various employment laws and Civil Service Policies.  Oh no wait a minute, maybe there was not a specific policy stating that you could not shout verbal abuse at your Chief Officer with numerous witness especially when that Chief Officer is supposedly only a "paper Caymanian".  McLaughlin your response is woeful but nothing more than we have come to expect.  McKeeva does not have to say anything on the subject, all he needs to do is wait in the wings while this government make an unmighty cock up of governing these beautiful islands.  

    • Anonymous says:

      12:43, I am an elderly retired civil servant from the Glass House days. What you describe in your first paragraph as "relatively common" does not ring true in the least (and I worked in several ministries). Disagreements between politicians and civil servants, yes, but NOTHING like what you describe. And, by the way, repeated shouting of the "f" word, most of us are  not "used to hearing every day"……..especially from a Minister of Government.

      • Anonymous says:

        The interior design of the old Glass House was more forgiving ,and suited the Caribbean which studies have shown is filled with "strong personalities" as our able Premier and expert in organizational behavior has also labelled the issue.

        This cannot be said of the new building where a whisper or strong gaseous human sound will propagate through the paper thin walls  into the open plan area.

        The design is a Product of the PPM, who are getting the change in office environment they desired.

         

         

         

    • Anonymous says:

      Not only foul language was used.

    • Anonymous says:

      Some Chief Officers in the past were bullies too, and left their culture in their Ministry.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes but the ministry is not the highly charged atmosphere of the trading room.  As civil servants we are meant to model good behaviour.  This amounted to bullying and is typical when you tey to tell the emperor that something is not correct.  

  147. Anonymous says:

    Sounds a lot like bullying in the work place by an overly entitled MLA believing he has enough power to do and say what he likes to his staff.  That this has reached the ears of the public should hopefully teach this bully a lesson but I fear he will exact his revenge behind closed doors once this issue has died down.  Looks like a CO's position will be available in due course.

    • Anonymous says:

      12:40.And you have decided this without hearing from any of the parties involved;imagine if you had a little knowledge just how dangerous you could be.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sniff, sniff, my heart bleeeeeeeeeeds.

  148. Anonymous says:

    Lucky the cow cod didn't appear!

  149. Anonymous says:

    ozzie….a great caymanian mla/civil servant……

    this place is a joke…just look at your public representatives!!!!!!

  150. Anonymous says:

    ozzie…the rubbish minister…….time to go…

  151. Anonymous says:

    Thank God he didn't have that cow cod in his hand again…If I were Jenifer, I would be very careful.

  152. Anonymous says:

    The "prompt action" should have been the removal of Mr Bodden from his position as Minister by the Premier, not limp wristed statements to the media. It was that outrageous an attack on his Chief Officer. Utterly contemptible.

    • Anonymous says:

      12:30.Perhaps you should wait until you are provided with proof,sometimes things are not as they first appear.Civil servants are reported to have heard one side of a disagreement,what about the other side Remember all Civil Servants are not impartial as they should be . Ask Ezzard about his time as The  Exco  member for Health.                   I once overheard a couple arguing next door,and this argument led to the police being called.One feature of this argument was that while the husband was speaking softly,the wife was arguing in a loud  voice,and not always responding to what the husband was saying. I soon realized that she was trying to create the impression that he was threatening violence when in fact he was not,(maybe she didn't realize that I was on the other side of the wall) and was glad to tell what I heard when questioned by the police.I say all that to say this :Let's wait until we have all the facts before we reach a conclusion in this matter.

  153. Anonymous says:

    CNS, you are correct in saying that it "was a lot more than a mere disagreement". The Premier's response so far is very very weak. The Minister was foul mouthed and abusive and completely and frighteningly out of control, something witnessed by many civil servants. And all because his Chief Officer was doing her job in querying something, it appears. Let us hope Ahearn is not put on leave as it was the Minister who was in the wrong.

    • the haranguer says:

      I see early retirement with full pay in Jennifer's future. She has hit the mother lode.

    • Anonymous says:

      How do you know for a fact that the Minister was in the wrong?

      • Anonymous says:

        Because 16:59, I was there.

      • Anonymous says:

        and because that type of behaviour is never EVER justified.  Poor management style, poor people skills and totally lacking in any conflict resolution skills.

  154. Anonymous says:

    Apparently the only way people in this country resolve their differences is through stabbing, shooting or hacking each other with machetes. Verbal abuse is actually not so bad as a change of pace. A Christian country huh? Too bad people don't practice kindness, compassion, tolerance, patience, or respect towards their fellow human beings. The leaders of this country should be role models. Unfortunately they have become role models for what not to do. It's no wonder the youth grow up with bad attitudes and behaviours given that the adults can't even manage to behave themselves legally or morally. 

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh, we tried what you suggested. Made us second class in our own country. The fact is, flights leave every day.

      • Anonymous says:

        13.02 Flights leave places every day, and arrive other places every day. The point was?

        And you hit it on the head, if you think you are second class citizens, then you are and will be. Just as a suggestion you could actually start thinking and acting in a normal way? Or is that too much to ask?

        • Anonymous says:

           17:50.Using your logic,if you think you are first class or upper class,then that is what you are.Wrong,you can think it all you want but that will not make it happen;simply wishful thinking on your part.

      • Anonymous says:

        Also made your country rich.  Where do you think government gets its money to play with but from foreign investment.  If you feel a second class citizen then go out there and get true upstanding Caymanians to represent you in the next election.  Ones that will genuinely look after the interests of the whole islands and not just those of themselves, their families and friends.

      • Anonymous says:

        That does not make you second class.  Your attitude does.  Please do everyone a favor and take your own advice.

  155. Anonymous says:

    What a mess! As a minister you need to be able to hold your tongue in the hype of things. There is a lot more of Ozzie's true colors to be seen.

  156. Knot S Smart says:

    Does he still have the cow cod?

    or is that the one Mr Baines gave the former Governor – Mr Taylor?

  157. Diogenes says:

    Just as well he didnt have his cow cod in the office.

    • Snipped says:

      Good thing. See kids, COD doesn’t always stand for Call Of Duty. COD: Cussing On Duty perhaps. ?

  158. Anonymous says:

    Didn't Ozzie get into it with someone else a while back?