Men robbed at gun point

| 24/08/2009

(CNS) : Police said this morning that the Criminal Investigation Department in George Town has begun an enquiry into the robbery of two men which occurred in the vicinity of the Tortuga factory on North Sound Road on Friday night (21 August). The men said they had been threatened by two robbers who had what appeared to be a hand gun as they demanded cash and then made their escape in a vehicle. Officers are now appealing for anyone in the area who may’ve seen something to come forward.

The 911 Emergency Communications Centre received the call reporting the mugging at 11.10pm. A man stated that he and a friend had been walking in the area when they had been approached by two men armed with what appeared to be a handgun who demanded they hand over any money they had. The victim told police the offenders were given an undisclosed sum of cash and they left from the location in a vehicle. He said they were both dark skinned and were wearing dark clothing.

Meanwhile, during a road block during the early hours of Saturday morning police said they arrested two men on suspicion ofpossession of an illegal firearm. The block was conducted on West Bay Road in the vicinity of the Courtyard Marriot where the vehicle was searched and a weapon was recovered and the two male occupants were arrested.

The weapon has since been examined and it has been determined that the weapon is a flare gun. The two men aged 24 and 27 have been released on bail pending further enquiries. Police said they were unable to draw any connection between the two incidents at this stage.

The RCIPS vows to continue with road blocks such as this in an effort to disrupt the movements of criminals, identify and bring to justice offenders and provide reassurance to the community.

Anyone who can help with the armed robbery should contact George Town CID on 949-4222 or Crime Stoppers on 800-8477 (TIPS). All persons calling Crime Stoppers remain anonymous, and are eligible for a reward of up to $1000, should their information lead to an arrest or recovery of property/drugs.         

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  1. Caymanian at Heart says:

    Speaking as an outsider, what I see here is the erosion of the social and moral structure of a once well rounded community.  In Cayman, I have observed a drastic gap between generations here.  I am friends with a lot of Caymanians and most of them agree – some where along the past 20 years Cayman lost its way and its sense of community.  The family structure in Cayman is eroding, just like it is else where.  The young here have it so easy now, compared to their grand parents and parents who worked so hard to build Cayman to what it is today.  The youths here also lack a true sense of consequences for their actions.  It seems like they 1. Are not disciplined by their parents and 2. Often are released by the authorities without charges being brought on them.  What we need here is to work on the sense of community and lose this whole Caymanian vs Non-Caymananian attitude.  We need to work together to build a better soceity and also strengthen the RCIP’s ability to be able to act in a fair manner.

    • someone that is really worried about our Island says:

       

      I agree with writer 16:22 we need to get together and do something about the crime rate here. What message are we sending out? This Island feeds on tourist, and if this is what they have to read about then you can be sure that in next 10 years or so the only thing that we will be fighting about is "who is steeling my crops" because is what we will have to do to put food on the table.
      Please let’s all stand up to  do something about the crime rate here, I don’t know how true it is but I hear that one almost got car jacked on Friday while stop at a street light. If this is true then we are in a hole that might be too deep to come out on our own and we will need each other to contribute to helping the police to stop the crime because we all already know that leaving things in the police hands has got is this far in already. Stop blaming it each other we are all in this because as many who cares who/or what nationality commit the crime at the end of the day it happened and it happened here. That is the bottom line so if you are just going to sit your backside and blame and feel sorry about what is happening to our Islands and get out there to do something about it then it will only get worst.
       
      • Anonymous says:

        Step #1 is for Caymanians to know that by keeping silent about crimes you know have been committed, you are destroying Cayman. 

        By protecting the criminals you guarantee that they will be free to commit more crimes, and also that everyone who sees them succeed at crime will suffer the temptation of the easy road to money, drugs, parties and all that goes with that lifestyle.  And some will follow.

        Meanwhile the investors, job-creating expats and tourists are taking their money and leaving.  You think the recession is bad now.  Wait until you national income stops coming in.

        Make your choice, but don’t complain if you stay silent and the money and jobs leave because of it.  I promise that I will testify against any criminal I see commiting a crime, and I’m not even from here.  What will you do for your own country?  Are you a patriot when it counts, or do you just like to talk like you were one?

  2. Of Cayman says:

    While Beavis is amusing himself rolling around on the floor, I must comment that the criminals are people residing in the Cayman Islands, and therefor the problem IS of Cayman by its very nature, and therefor Caymanian. The countries named on our respective passports will not impact the fact that the crime is here on Cayman, damaging Cayman, and chasing investors, tourists and money away from Cayman. 

    I was in a hotel pool on 7MBN this weekend and 2 American tourists were talking about the massive increase in crime here, and how it wasn’t like that when they started coming here.  That is not the first time I’ve heard this.  Don’t think that the international community aren’t noticing this. 

  3. Annoymous says:

    The RCIP > new name: RICP = Royal Incompetent Cayman Police.

    A flare gun…what a laugh, that’s the only guns they can find?

    I wonder if those persons arrested will file a suit and get a few million dollars in compensation for being inconvenienced.

    Everyone and his granny has a flare gun, hello, people out there with a grain of common sense, we live on an island, surrounded by boats, every boat has a flare gun.

    Leave to the RICP to find a weapon of mass destruction – LOL!! A FLARE GUN!!

    i am rolling on the concrete laughing my a$$ off!!!

    CNS – you crack me up with these stupid police findings….but in this recession we need a good laugh, keep them coming!!!

     

    • Makam says:

      I don’t have a flare gun! but then again my IQ unlike yours is more than double digits.

  4. Got u says:

    I want them to come and rob me when am walking one night.  Come on criminals come rob me.

    Parents tell your children to be good, stop doing wrong and they will live long and don’t come to rob me.

  5. Anonymous says:

     My understanding is, the victims both said the robbers were caymanians. So u all shut up. As Malcolm x said " The chickens are coming to roost "  

    You  (Cayman) are reaping what you sew. In the past, and even now, to a lesser extent, an expat parent was thrown off the Island for just about any misdemeanour, leaving an ill-equipped local to do what both parents should have been doing.

    When you all run out of excuses, who are going to blame ?

    • Anonymous says:

      "My understanding is, the victims both said the robbers were caymanians".

      How did they know that? Do they know them? Previously when assailants of a particular nationality were identified on the basis of accent and appearance there were howls of objection that anyone could put on accent and there was no way distinguish them from Caymanians on the basis of appearance.   

      • Anonymous says:

        That one is easy.

        Who else but a Caymanian would be too lazy to run after committing a robbery, but drives away instead?

        We shouldn’t be too hard to spot once we graduate to bank robbery either. We will be the ones with face mask on and gun in hand driving around the block until a parking spot opens up by the front door.

        Seriously people, how long do you think we can continue to blame other nationalities for the crimes our people are committing?

    • Twyla M Vargas says:

      INTERESTING TO KNOW, who were the persons that got robbed.  Were they Caymanians also?    Ummm, Caymanians robbing Caymanians?   Caymanians walking on the road in the vicinity of Tortuga, Ummm, I trying to figure that out. 

      Now why would two Caymanian men rob ???????? dont know who.  Is someone sending a jolly riding message.  Are we by chance overlooking something that is taking place here on Cayman, does it even seem like some unhappy persons are retalating because of being out numbered.  If you are not hearing them talk then you wont know what them taking bout.  Figure it out and walk good.

    • flatulence says:

      How can you tell that a buttocks has grown fingers and learned to type? 

      When it says: "My understanding is, the victims both said the robbers were caymanians", that’s how. 

      What an utter and complete case of massively malodorous cerebral flatulence… as if they have any understanding at all. 

      I am sure that they are PPM supporters, probably expats of "that" nationality, here leaching off the goodness of "real" Caymanians (not the paper kind) and who don’t have Cayman’s long-term interest at heart and are only here to milk Cayman for its tax-free dollars at the expense of the real UDP-supporting Caymanian who is lawfully entitled to that job by right of birth irrespective of talent or ambition and despite the challenges brought by the 2003 status-grant festival and the crime wave brought on by the status-grant, the UDP, the PPM, Caymanians, expats, the unemployed, people with jobs, married, separated, divorced, with parents and those whose parent were run off by the past government of whatever persuasion, who were talked into it by the the gays at the Holy Church of Perpetual Unforgiveness. 

      Did I miss anyone?

      Someone please open a window…

  6. Anonymous says:

    Usual story then….we don’t even know who did it or where they came from but straight away everybody is blaming the expats. Get a grip of yourselves, ‘foreigners’ are police checked and have to jump through some serious hoops just to get here, the real criminal element is entirely home grown here guys. Years of bad parenting, laziness, too high a sense of self worth and entitlement has meant that too many young Caymanians are being dragged into a life of crime.

    Foreign workers come here to do the jobs that the locals won’t do, some of them get paid peanuts but they still earn an honest living. Whereas the caymanians are leaving school early with no education or prospects and living their lives as gangster wannabes.

    I laugh at the number of times I read about a serious crime on here, only to read many racist comments blaming expats or in fact anybody but their own. Then 2 weeks later when police make arrests we find out the truth. 99.9% of the time the criminals are Caymanian.

    Stop blaming other people for the lack of morality in your youngsters, if you weren’t so greedy and spent time raising your kids properly instead of hitting the bottle every day and letting the kids run riot, then you wouldn’t be breeding all these hoodlums.

     

    • Anonymous says:

      Certainly there are Caymanians who commit serious crimes and there is a serious problem with our youth. However, it is obviously ridiculous to state that the real criminal element is entirely home grown. Those who have been charged or convicted with murders also come from Jamaica, Honduras and Nicaragua. When serious crime started with the gangs it was shown that there was a clear connection with more sophisticated criminals from the outside. One particular criminal mastermind was arrested as he came off the flight from Cayman to his native country.

      It is also true that many people are here on work permits but have no work and have to find a way to support themselves and turn to crime. One of the problems is when the immigration controls were relaxed following Hurricane Ivan persons entered without being required to produce police records. There are people here who have entered the country illegally via boat. There are many unsolved crimes. Part of the reason is no doubt that they have left the country.  In one recent case, the perpretators were at the airport ready to leave when they were arrested. The fingerprint requirements need to be brought into force. 

      You are ready to accuse others of racism yet you are making plainly racist, ignorant statements.    

  7. Anonymous says:

    Where have you been living do you see who make up 70% of Law enforcement and judiciary get real my good friend this is 2009 not 1959

  8. Anonymous says:

    Plz dont get into the finger pointing as we have no idea who these culprits may be, they may well be our own Caymanians!

  9. Anonymous says:

    Immigration needs to run these illegals off the island, no coming back.  Ever.

    • Anonymous says:

      Plz dont get into finger pointing as we have no idea who these culprits may be, they maybe our own Caymanians!

    • Anonymous says:

      I am with you on that, also….

      What about "squaters" in abandoned/underconstruction buildings. They should do some searches at night with dogs. Only lord know who is living in those and Immigration dont know they are here or even worse what they are hiding….

       

  10. "Mafia" says:

    Well we done know which nationalities they referring to as being prevelant in the vicinity off Eastern Avenue, but closer yet, they like hanging out at Welly’s too. That location not too far from where this robbery took place.  Immigration needs to step up Enforcement procedures.  There are a lot of these hoodlums and ruffians walking our streets at nights, and many of them are here illegally.  Their right to be employed within our islands have many times expired and yet they are still allowed to remain on island, roaming the streets at will. Gone are the days, when Immigration (Enforcement) use to do operations from 4 am. scooping persons off our streets and securing them a flight to their land of origin.

    What is Law Enforcement waiting on, for another life/lives to be taken innocently before they beef up the need security, by getting these inidviduals off the streets? 

  11. Anonymous says:

    This is just wonderful… Now we’ve got armed street muggings going for us as well. 

    Last one off the island please turn off the cash machine.

  12. Ball-Head (retired) says:

    Does it not seem that a disproportionate number of serious gun crimes etc.. are taking place within about 300 yds. of Eastern Avenue? Is there a particular nationality/culture  prevelant in that community and is that not a good place to start when determining factors relating to criminality? Or is it inappropriate to even suggest the obvious for fear of offending?

    • Anonymous says:

      What’s really inappropriate is that the police, who know where the crime happpens, WON’T GO THERE!  They are too scared to face the real crime that is taking over, so instead they go giving out speeding tickets and looking for expired stickers.  THAT’S what is inappropriate.  It’s the wild west now – no law enforcement here. 

      As Twyla says, walk good.  As I say, carry a weapon when you do.