Middle school boys charged

| 03/12/2009

(CNS): A student at George Hicks High School was airlifted to Jamaica with head injuries on Monday and two students have been charged in connection with the incident. Sources have told CNS that the 13-year-old victim was injured by rocks thrown at him. Police say that the alleged assault took place at 10:20 on Monday morning, 23 November, at the school campus and two boys, aged 13 and 14, have been charged. According to the RCIPS, it is anticipated that the victim and his family will be returning to the Cayman Islands on Friday, 4 December.

CNS will post updates when more is known about the incident.

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  1. o.c.m. says:

    The situation has worsened over the years.  Education is no longer, if it ever was, about learning – it is about babysitting the brats, the vagabonds, the ones whose parents don’t give a fig about the responsibilities of having a child.    It’s a war zone, and the ones being caught in the crossfire are, ironically enough, those very few who are there to learn and to make something of themselves.  Go to a government school in China and see what the difference is.  It’s night and day.  The kids want to do well and are pressured/encouraged to do well – they are driven to succeed, to learn, to stand out, not for wearing their pants around their ankles, but for being top of the class…  Is it any wonder though that the Cayman Islands have a subpar education system given that the administration, XXXX are only concerned about getting their names and pictures in the paper and sweeping the "scandals" under the carpet.  As long as the administration "practices" appearance and perception over substance, as long as parents don’t participate in raising their offspring, as long as children are given no responsibilities and suffer no consequences for their actions and behaviours, as long as parents continue to use schools, t.v., and the streets as babysitters, education and the system will continue to slide in KY.

  2. Anonymous says:

    We like the majority of people here who are lovely and friendly and accepting of others. It is the minority of plebs like you that spoil it by spreading hatred and filth.


  3. Young Caymanian says:

     As a Caymanian female who has been through both systems of the public and private schools at varying times in my life, I feel I need to also help clear up any misconceptions about the difference in the schools.

    As it were, I feel none of the schools are generally "better" or "worse" than each other when it comes to behaviour of the student population.  Bullying exists in ALL of the schools make no mistake about that.  I can still remember quite vividly coming home at the age of 5 sobbing to my mother about how I didn’t want to go to school anymore because the children would not leave me alone and were relentless in their teasing.  Was this a public school? No. It was from one of the private schools and it stuck with me so long in my life that when I had the choice after primary school to go to either George Hicks or one of the varying private schools I made it very clear to my parents that I wanted to go to a public school. End of story.  This is not to say that I wasn’t bullied or teased in middle school to high school, being one of the smart kids, it was inevitable but I was more content and it gave me the chance to toughen myself up as well as learn how to deal with different kinds of people from all walks of life.  

    However, I did attend a private school after John Gray in order to do my A-Levels and while I thoroughly enjoyed my time there I have to say the out of school behaviour of some of the students there SHOCKED me. While underaged drinking is a prevalent problem in Cayman, it was horrendously common in this private school! I was just shy of 18 and was, coming from a public school, the oldest person in myyear.  When I was invited to a house/beach party, the amount of drinking that went on between the ages of 14-17 could rival any hardened sailor.  And this was done on a frequent basis not by the kids from a "lower" background or ones known for causing trouble, but from those who were essentially the school’s pride and joy; the role models as it were.  Not only that, the amount of them who participated in drug subculture was astounding! Yes, John Gray is vastly bigger than these private schools but if you were to look at a percentage of each school in regards to drug/alcohol abuse and other risky behaviour, I feel, due to the size of the school, the percentage would be higher in a private school. Simple math really.  I may have been the exception to the rule, but it wasn’t until I went back to a private school that I knew that there was such a thing as a gravity bong or that the use of magic mushrooms was even done in Cayman. Take note please as well that this wasn’t 5-10 years ago.  This was only the last school year and the year before.

    So please before people start spouting off on the horrendous nature of public schooling, remember that when it comes what is heard in the media, a lot of what goes down in private schools is covered up by parents who have money to keep it hush and by schools unwilling to tarnish their reputation.  None of these schools can really claim to be better in that sense.

    In closing, I think parents in general, no matter which school their child attends should really start keeping tabs on exactly what their children are doing.  Going to a friends house? Ok. Call up the parents of your child’s friend and confirm what is going on, making sure adequate PARENTAL supervision is there if your child is 17 or younger.  Going out? Sure. Just make sure you have dropped them off and not have them "picked up" by their friends "brother".  A lot of the times that is no brother but a boyfriend quite a bit older than your 14 year old baby girl.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Not all bad kids come from bad homes, there comes a time when choices have to be made. These choices can be for good or for bad but parents are not always to be held responsible for their their kids choices.

    Teaches are for tesching not parenting and as such cannont be held for responsible when a child takes a knife into school or beates another, alot of time this is the result of minds that are weak, eaisly led, wanting to be accepted into a "group". The sad fact is that because many households are single parents the signs go unseen. Understand me i am not making excuses here cause i feel that as a parent it is our responsibility to make time to spend with each and evey child and visit the schools.

    I am the eldest (early 40s) of 5 kids raised in an household riddled with domestic abuse towards my mom by my father mother. Alcohol, adultury and his friends were the catalysts but she protected us at the near cost of her life many times. She got out eventually and had several jobs and when  she was not around i assumed the surrogate role ensuring that my siblings needs were taken care of. We did not grow up with helpers, we had neighbors, we did not have TV, we had books and board games and we were happy. Not one of us were a bully, a criminal or anything of the such. Now 3 are top exec professionals with top educations and the 2 youngest are slowly making their way.

    Nothing came eaisy for us we all worked very hard and made the RIGHT CHOICES! We DID not allow our enviroment to shape us, but instead choose a destiny of our own. AND held fast to our dreams!

    To all you expats that think cayman children are a spoiled bunch of nobheads, yea some are but the majority are not!  if you are living here your kids are interacting with some of these same kids whether u want to believe it or not; ie this should be about our kids and not about caymanians vs expats, much is at stake.

  5. Anonymous says:

     There has been a lot of incidents that have taken place within the Government schools and the public becomes aware of it, but as a student, I am in my final year at John Gray High School, I am caymanian and have been in government school since Primary. For those who have their opinions on government school, ill give you a heads up. Some say privates schools are better than government, the grading scale is too low, the teachers dont teach the children anything. But hello, parents have to play a part in the childs life, teachers dont teach the child how to behave, thats the parents job, the parts are the ones who brought them in this world so teach your own child how to behave. Yes, i know that some children come from a troubled home and cant manage with the stress of it, and anybody can get stress from any age and that is a fact because things affect everybody different. And to the person who say 85% is B-, no no no, dont come with that, we have examinations boards grade scales here that we follow in high school, and in the middle school they have a standard. For those who have posted comments about caymanian and foreigner the blame, blame your self. If you got a child and think the teachers the blame for them, its you and your child. Do you all know how bad our english, and yes i know i’m not writing, typingenglish here, but chh, stop blaming Tom, Dick and Harry and start blaming yours selves for the mess in this country, but position comes before education i guess around this place, cause some caymanian’s head isnt on their body.
    And look una always hear about what goes on the governments school but never a private i wonder why, cause no body is a queen or king, so stop swelling you heads!
    Some need lashing but beating your isnt good, some children learn different, and some hold things against parents. Im not talking foolishness cause i know what it is a like im still a teenage girl and i know what it is like. if some parents really care, sit down and talk to your child, stop spoiling them cause they will smell like egg and they always get away with it. 
    Oh and  recession?? that is not the blame for violence either, because some of them children i see going to john gray and say bout they not got no money, they in recession, they in a recession okay with a blackberry, sound like recession to you?? NO!

    Send criminal to cayman brac??, you must be mad, look my mother is a braca, and to be honest it dont need get any worse, i wonder is you have been up dey lately.And sorry but are you………….?? Turn it into Mt.Trashmore, you dont even know anything about brac, much less cayman its self awa?? do that and when una need place run and when airlines charging one bag a money to run off island when hurricane coming, dont say this a lie now, cause una do run up dey on the bluff keep ya self from getting ya head top wet, you na ga have no brac run when hurricane then.


    • Anonymous says:

      I rest my case Your Honour.

      This is the product of government schools.

  6. Anonymous says:

    Is it my understanding ,that to get an A in Cayman is 85%.While in the rest of world that would be a B-.Just saying that the education board has lowered the criteria for an A,to make the children think they are smarter than they are.

    • Anon says:

      85% – that’s tough on kids.

      Under the new labour regime in the UK, 65% is the pass mark for an A. The only way to fail is to not attend the examination, and if you have a note from your mum or come from a ‘minority’ group then even that is not a problem.

      • o.c.m. says:

        Is it any wonder that our education system is in dire straits when the best that we do is to emulate England’s failed public system; and even that we don’t do all that well…

  7. Anonymous says:

    This  is for 19.15 please get  some thing straight not all children that goes to public school is trouble children there are very bright children that goes to public school i have a Daughter that has been a straight A student from the time she started primary and she is now in Geogre Hicks and still is a straight A student . its your business where you want to send your child but dont be calling the children that goes to public school Barbarians because  i can put my last dollar u  was put thru public school. And as for private schools theres a lot of crap going on in them all so but when it come to the Government School once some thing happen the kids that goes there is the worst thing in the world please Remember where you come from .

    • Anonymous says:

      As I said in my previous post "Most of those kids that go there are nothing short of barbarians!". If it doesn’t apply to your good kid then there’s no need for you to get in a huff and puff! The public high school was terrible when I was there! There was a fight almost every single day! Students fighting students! Students fighting teachers! I hated every second that I was in that school and was so happy when I was moved out! I was personally picked on because my skin wasn’t dark enough to hang with the dark skin kids! I was shunned because my skin wasn’t white enough to hang with the white well off kids! I was picked on because I’m from another island!  It was the single worse year of my entire schooling! And it has NOT improved in over 20 years!! So yes I stand by what I said whether you like it or not! MOST of those kids have no proper parenting and they act nothing short of barbarians! They are not taught to have self respect, to respect a person for who they are and not for who they are family to or how much money they have or what color their skin is! If you look at some of them wrong they cuss you out and tell you all kinds of nasty things about your mother! If you bump someone accidentally he and allhis friends want to jump on you and beat the crap out of you! If you talk to the wrong guy some girl wants to jump you with her friends because "da her man!" I consider that type of behaviour barbaric! I have no experience with what goes on in the private schools, but I speak from experience when it comes to the public high school and believe me I try very hard to FORGET that I had the misfortune of attending the public high school here 20 years ago! I transferred to a much better school and fully enjoyed the rest of my school years! But the time that I spent in the public high school on Grand Cayman has left a bad taste in my mouth that will be with me for the rest of my life and I really don’t see much improvement from when I was there! I did not say that all kids were likethat! I specifically said most of them! And no matter how good your child is, the bad ones are going to give your good child a bad name! And that is exactly what I don’t want for my child! Yes you have some good parents who do try but you have alot that simply don’t care and those are the ones that ruin it for everyone. And you know what, 20 years from now that poor child that was hit with those rocks is going to remember nothing else about school but that one terrible experience which he/she should not have had to endure in the first place if those kids that did it had had a proper upbringing.

  8. Anonymous says:

    Yes actually, as a Caymanian who has lived in Europe and North  America, apart from bizarre sections of the Hamptons and Beverly Hills, only in Cayman is the practise of buying cars for kids the norm. Everywhere else the kids work until they can afford it with, if they are lucky, parents matching earnings to contribute.

  9. Anon says:

    But it’s the way you do things that is at the root of your problems.

    And also, please don’t assume that every expat leaves their home country to come here because it’s better. Working and living abroad provides life experience and is an adventure. I’ll agree that nowhere is perfect but at least I’ll hold up my hands and admit that whereas some people are totally oblivious to the problems on their home turf.

  10. Anonymous says:

    This is everyone’s problem! Teachers cannot discipline because parents would have a problem with it. Neighbors cannot tell parents if they see something because parents would have a problem with it. The problem would be, "my child said he/she didn’t do it." Better yet, the neighbor or teacher would be looked at as a snitch or troublemaker if the child is somehow disciplined.

    It takes a village to raise a child – that includes the parent(s).

  11. Anonymous says:

    This is so sad! I don’t know what I’m going to do when it’s time for my child to leave primary school. I can’t see my child going to the public high school. Most of those kids that go there are nothing short of barbarians! It’s so sad that people don’t care enough to raise their children with some sort of manners and respect for each other and for themselves.

  12. Bluff Rat says:

    Thank you CNS for the note on the vandalism at the Brac High School. The poster at 10:02 should’ve read the article carefully before assuming that kids were responsible for this incident. Instead of this person wasting his/her time criticizing the youth of our small island, maybe he/she should invest their time in to what I have done for the past 17+ years and that was to raise a decent child who didn’t throw rocks, didn’t go to school with his pants waist below his buttocks, didn’t tell me at 7 years old what kind of cell phone he wanted and even now, he’s happy to drive my old beat up car instead of asking for the latest Honda Accord.

  13. Anonymous says:

    You dont find this happening at the "expat" school – CIS !!

    • Anonymous says:

      No you don’t because expats that can afford to send their kids to private school generally teach their kids to have morals and not stay out all hours taking drugs and sleeping around.

      Whereas the government school is full of kids whose parents didn’t teach them right from wrong, had no time for them growing up and don’t give a cluck what they are doing roaming the streets all night.

      The Caymanians at the ‘expat’ school also have parents that care about them, hence why they don’t cause trouble either.

      • EastSider says:

        Maybe if employers here paid their Caymanian staff as good as they pay the expats then they could send their kids to private school too.  Furthermore, expats are mostly here for a limited time so maybe we don’t hear about the things they they do.  Caymanians are taught right from wrong and it is up to the individual which one they choose to do.  Your comment is highly offensive to Caymanians which is why I am pretty sure you are an expat also.  If you don’t like the people here why don’t you return to where you come from since it must be heaven as that is the only place you will find the angels you try to portray everyone except Caymanians as being.

        • Anonymous says:

          it’s obvious the truth hurts…..

          you know when caymanians have lost an argument when they come out with the ‘ if you don’t like it, leave now’ comment….

      • Anonymous says:

        Why aren’t we charging the parents?  It is, ultimately, their responsibility.  Make the parents pay – preferably with their cheque books.   Then you’ll see a reduction in  juvenile crime.

      • Anonymous says:

        I beg to differ with the opinion you have expressed. Children can be taught a great many things about how to behave, social graces, respect etc but ultimately they have a mind and will make their own choices, some good, some bad. That is indicative of kids’ behaviour, regardless of their social standing. I know kids who did not come from noble backgrounds and certainly did not have great mentors, yet, they chose to make right choices and rise above the the bad situations that were born in.  So, don’t be too quick to pass judgment, you never know what your own well brought up child/children may choose to do some day.

        • Anonymous says:

          don’t try and make excuses for bad parents

          there will always be exceptions to the rule, but in general, badly behaved children stems from poor parenting

      • Anonymous says:

        This type of ignorant, stuck up, I’m better than you attitude is why there is a Cayman/expat divide. It’s people like you that create divisions. Perhaps you should take your better than thou attitude and and say something useful. That generalisation is so prejudiced and inaccurate. Problems happen in the so called "expat" schools and no one knows because they are covered up!!!! If you are a Caymanian who posted this, you are a disgrace! If you are an expat please do us all a favour and haul your prejudiced backside and your perfect kids and return to where you came from because we definately do not want pompous people like you on this island!!!!

        • Anonymous says:

          expats are generally well educated, hard working people. Hence their children are brought up with similar characteristics. there are always the exceptions to the rule….

          it’s always down to the standard of parenting


    • Anonymous says:

      The whole crux of the matter is children do what they see being done, so if parents act in a certain manner at home you will see the children behaving in the same manner, and if young people at school see our leaders behaving a certain way, well you will seethe young people behaving that way. It is not a coincidence that our young people are behaving in a criminal way like never before and peoples we have to do something now before it gets worse and don’t sweep it under the mat.

  14. Che says:

    Every day it’s war!  War in the east!  War in the south!  War down west! War down South…it’s war!   Bob Marley lives!  Unite mi Caymanians!  

    Spank those little bad a$$ kids of yours man!  Spank dem rass with switch off the tree, like the old people used to do us man!  Kids these days have no kind of respect for authority man!  Wash dem mouth out with soap man!  If yah kid back chat you knock him rass out man!  One luv!

    PS: CNS big up to y’all man!  Luv yah site man! One luv!


  15. Anonymous says:

    I know I will get a lot of heat for this, but I am baffled when I see how a lot of people raise their children here in Cayman. Yes, I am not from Cayman but have lived here for the last 12 years. When I compare it to other places where I have lived at and the place I grew up, I have noted that a lot of children here do not seem to grow up with a sense of responsibility,   independence or ambition. Parents seems to be bending over backwards for their children, not realizing that they are often doing more harm than good in the long run. They help them get car loans, they don’t make them work during the summer breaks, they don’t get them involved in sports or other activities and they raise their childrens’ babies for them when they come home pregnant. I have seen people who have sent their children away to college but because they were too homesick, they came back home and crawled back under mother’s skirt. That was usually the end of any attempts to gain a further education. When I grew up, I couldn’t wait to get out of my parents home to be independent and prove myself. Here, it often seems that the children never leave, because it is so much easier to have the parents pay the bills, have the helper wash the laundry and come home to cooked dinner. I often wonder if a lot of parents do not want their children to get out on their own as otherwise it would be the parents who would feel lost.

    You have to stop being your childrens’ friend and start being a parent, and tough love is what is needed. You can not expect your children to turn out to be responsible members of society when you are doing everything for them.

    The outcome is what we are seeing now. Children do not have any respect for ANYTHING. Not their parents, not their teachers, not any other authorities or anybody else’s property.


    • Anonymous says:

      So bad chiildren are ONLY in Cayman?????? Only Caymanian parents pay their kids’ bills and buy them cars???? This only happens in Cayman? Are you for real???? I’m so sick and tired of expats and their views and opinions on Cayman and Caymanian people. You are here to work and nothing else. Save your opinions for when you go back to your own country where incidentally things weren’t perfect because you are HERE!!!!! If you don’t like how we do things then the answer is simple…..LEAVE!!!!!

      • Anonymous says:

        You want me to leave? Am I supposed to take my Caymanian husband and our two children who were born here and are also Caymanian with me too? What about his large extended family? Are they all to pack up and come too? Is that the way in Cayman that you have to agree with Caymanians 100% of the time no matter how idiotic it may be or otherwise you will be asked to leave?

        Trust me, because of people like you, this will never be home to me, but only the place where I live.

        Never did I see in my post that this ONLY happens in Cayman, however, Cayman is a very small place and as such, it is even more devastating and obvious when children are behaving badly. You would figure that in a small community children wouldn’t get away with that kind of stuff because everybody would be looking out for each other and ensure that parents are made aware when their children are out of control. Unfortunately, the attitude of "not wanting to be involved in someone elses business" has taken over. I know parents that have volunteered at schools with extracurricular activities. When they disciplined some children for root behaviour, the parents of those children would show up in the evening at the volunteer’s house, cursing them off for having disciplined that child. You know what my friend did, he stopped volunteering because he couldn’t bother anymore having to put up with "bad" children and instead of getting the support of the parents, the parents automatically take the children’s side. No wonder children don’t take any authority serious.

        Instead of turning your hatred and anger so blindly against anything that is remotely expat, you may want to turn inward and admit there is a obvious problem in Cayman with the attitude of the Youth towards authorities of any kind. Cayman is a small enough place and as such should have the advantage of being more likely to get problems under control. Unfortunately, as long as people continue to burry their heads in the sand the way you do, things will never change. My mother alway taught me to never assume that your own child isnt’ involved in anything when you hear other kids are getting in trouble. Your child is not better or worse than anyone else’s child. If you believe otherwise, then you are in denial. But then they say…..ignorance is bliss.

  16. Bluff Rat says:

    Yeah, Braca, don’t even think about encouraging these kids with no discipline to come over to the Brac. Although the smart as* that posted at 08:21 thinks the Brac is only worthy of holding Mount Trashmore and a labour camp, we can boast with confidence that the youth of Cayman Brac is being raised in a much better environment by parents who are dedicated to their children. This is quite obvious by the absence of incidents reported in the news.

    • Anonymous says:

      On the contrary, the Brac high school vandals are hardly the role models for the nation:

      "Five classrooms, which have just been completely renovated following Hurricane Paloma, have been completely trashed, and there is extensive damage to the home economics room and computer lab, where all of the computers, phones and other equipment were destroyed."


      CNS: That release from the ministry and reproduced verbatim by Net News was incorrect. The incident was inexcusable and happened at the worst time possible and was demoralising for the whole island, but the ministry, for whatever reason, exaggerated the damage. For a more accurate report, read CNS Vandals mash up Brac school. Also, since the culprits were never identified we don’t know if they were students or not.

      • Anonymous says:

        Very good clarification CNS.  More people need to gather their facts before they start passing judgements and coming to faulty conclusions.  I like the fact that you pointed out that the vandals were not identified, hence no conclusion can be made that they were students.  It is still puzzling me however, that they were not identified!

  17. Anonymous says:

    First of all it starts from home parents need to start taking more responsibilty for there Children . What people fear to realize is that the teachers raies more of our kids and  have more dealing with our kids than what we as parent do and the min that something goes wrong the teachers are the first to get the blame. wake up if the kids where thaught from home what was expected of them maybe the teaches mite not have all of these problems to deal with . How many of you parents askes your kids when you  get home how was your day any thing new happen  .May be when some of you get home you have no idea where your kids are and do you even go and look for them .Its not just about i put a roof over there head and i feed them and but clothes on there back it  takes a whole lot more to be a parent.

  18. A YOUNG CAYMANIAN!! says:

    This kind of violence was ALWAYS going on in school. I seriously can’t understand why people think this is a recent thing?!?!?! There were several incidents where children had to be hospitalised when i was in school and that was only 5 years ago. The only difference now is that the media is posting the incidents.

    Wake up people…this is old news.

    • nonsense says:

      So because it happened in the past, that makes it OK.

      It’s disgraceful for the children, the community, the school/teachers, the country and mostly the parents of those two bullies.

      Morals and behavior are taught at home and at a very early age. Obviously this is a continuing problem as you’ve just pointed out. It needs to be corrected and the government, police, schools, God are not the ones to fix it. It starts at home, between a parent and their child!

      • Anonymous says:

        Not because it happen in the past it just normal to see youngster do this kind of stuff in schools even from my father school days and my school days also, i remember one boy throwed a rock and bust another student head when i was going to middle school and i did’nt forget that day or even denied that this kind of stuff would happen again in schools today that’s why people have to stop making a big deal out of something that been happening for generation in schools and we would always have bullies in school so what can we do about it? I’m not supporting behavior of the student who throwed the rock and i was not in support of what happen when i was going to middle school and at that time i was 13yrs old. In reality the toughes part of growing up is in the schools days remember that always.

        • Anonymous says:

          You sir/madame are insane. In no way shape or form is it acceptable for one child to bite, punch, push, harass, or throw rocks at another child. If that is done the individual needs to be removed from the situation and the parents be notified. Surely this wasn’t the first time this child or children were caught being abusive. It is systemic and representative of the parenting provided.

          By your comments, it seems this is the normal, which doesn’t bode well for it ever changing in the future.

          If you do not protect and educate the youth, there will be a bleaker future!

    • John Fleming says:

      So that makes it right doe it and we can condone it. What if the child had died? I ask do you want to send your child to a school where the actions of seem to be condoned by grown ups?

      • A young Caymanian says:

        I am in no way condoing their actions. I’m simply stating a fact… ‘this type of violence has always been going on’. Everyone is acting like this a recent trend in school because of tv and what not. All i’m saying is that these types of incidents have been going on for a long time. There is no reason to all of a sudden be in an uproar about something like its new.

  19. Spot Baya says:

    To the Braca –  its people like you from there that makes us seems like we are the most prejudice people around the world. Instead of you posting silly comments on this website, please go help clean up the island or find something to do until you can make the decent comments about what this story is about.. This is not about sending Prisoners or whatever else to the brac, this is about a mother’s child being hit by a rock. We as Caymanians need to raise our children like how they older people raise their kids back in the olden days. If my child did this, you can guarantee it would have been me that the Police would have charge because her backside would have gotten whipped with a piece of brown girl switch. It so interesting everything comes up on CNS, people have to be making comments about Politics or nationalities, these 3 islands make up of us Caymanians and Brackers are no different nationalities, Yes, i know that we have some Brackers who say different but at the end of the day, we are Caymanians. To the parents of this child, i hope he makes a quick recovery. My daughter has been bullied many times by a certain boy at school and i had to go in personally to the teacher and it was sorted out. So please stop blaming the teachers, this starts at home and i blame parents for this kind of activity. We Caymanians are too ungrateful and we have too much pride. Lets take a stand and work toegther for the children of these islands.


    God Bless the Cayman Islands

  20. Sir Henry Morgan says:

    If you don’t beat your kids the prison guards will.

    • Anonymous says:


      I understand what you’re saying and wholehaertedly agree about the fact that parents that don’t discipline their kids lose control and the kids go off the rails and will likely end up in jail (or dead).

      But if only it were true about the prison guards. The prison guards wouldn’t dare beat a Caymanian in prison. The kids (because the adults tell them) don’t care less about the threat of prison when committing crimes because the worst that could happen is a short holiday at northward, where they get luxury air conditioned rooms with lcd Tvs, playstations and 3 good meals a day. When these kids don’t have that much at home it seems like a worthwhile risk.

      If the prison system was a lot tougher and the cons got beaten and worked like dogs, then it would be a deterrant.

  21. Anonymous says:

    What would be an interesting conversation to listen in on would be the parents of these bullies being confronted with their child’s behavior by school authorities and/or police.

    I am assuming that this will happen at some point.

    Was this an incorrect assumption, violence is largely a learned behavior.

  22. Braca says:

    I tell una come to Cayman Brac, we nah gah all dat up ya!

    • Anonymous says:

      Braca, careful what you ask for – you might get it!

    • Anonymous says:

      I suggested sending all the criminals and thugs to the Brac before but none of you seemed too keen.

      Now we’ve got the seal of approval lets move Northward to brac make it a labour camp.

      At the same time let’s move Mt. Trashmore over as well and make the main island more attractive to tourists.

      • The Truth says:

        I think that building a new Prison in Cayman Brac would be a very good economic gain for the sister island.

        * It would give jobs to many Bracers in which they could gain experience in the Correctional Industry.  Both male and female.

        * It would give a jump in low season when there are no tourist on the island as relatives and family from Grand Cayman would have to fly to the Brac and stay over in order to make visits to their family members incarcerated.  Giving Cayman Airways a bump in income.

        * A smaller island with alot of reef.  Dont see no escape boats coming in for anyone anytime soon. Prison escape would be a stupid idea.

        Just my thoughts.

        • Anonymous says:

          You really don’t know much about Cayman Brac do you?!  It’s only on the south side of the island that has a reef that would hamper boats from sailing in and out without the threat of hitting the reef. Go do your homework before you come on here talking foolishness.

        • Anonymous says:

          Great idea, a good way to get Brac contibuting to the success of the islands and not just leeching off the rest of us.

      • Anonymous says:

        the brac needs a couple more paloma’s…. only then will you be able to start over again. as it stands the brac offers nothing to no one including the bracers themselves….. desolate little place…. at least little cayman has tranquility.. 

        • Anonymous 2 says:

          The Brac needs a couple more Palomas like Grand Cayman needs a couple more Ivans.  Wash away all your criminals.  At least Cayman Brac isn’t taken over by criminals.  Desolate?  You must have been in the Nevada desert.  Cayman Brac is beautiful with a majestic bluff and kind hearted people. 

          I guess it’s right "Forgotten Sisters".  Cayman Brac and Little Cayman should go independent by themselves at least awayfrom Grand Cayman.  I’m sure some other country will realise our true potential.

  23. Twyla Vargas says:

    DO WE SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING  ON THIS ISLAND?  Are we too blind and busy to see that it is not fit for decent folks to live anymore.  The crime is spreading to the schools, and the half has not been told.  The crime wave has hit Individuals, it has hit business places, it has hit the only person where we could look to for protection, the police and now the schools.

    Something it is that we are doing wrong, and when the Prince of Darkness visits so strong in a place once called Paradise, it is because something wrong is going on, on the inside.  It would seem that the prayers of churches and individuals are falling on dry ground.

    Where are our hope?  The churches has got to come out of the Sunday school class and take to the streets.   We have got to stop dressing in Sunday Best, put on sandals, hat and dress and and hit the roads with a revival on weekends and sunday mornings.   People are loosing faith.  We need a revival outside the pews, from all of the churches.   Right now that is where everyone is expecting a miracle.  Come Church, Which one will be first to Move that mountain.  Blessed

  24. EastSider says:

    There is supposed to be numerous security guards at this school too so why would something like this be allowed to happen.  These schools call parents when their children wear short socks or the wrong color belt.  Seems to me they have a lot bigger problems  to worry about.  If this happensin Middle School I wonder what they are going to do when they reach High School.

  25. Anonymous says:

    It’s all the teachers’ fault isn’t it? Foreigners unable to deal with our special cultural needs and children frustrated because they know expats will keep them out of jobs. What nationality were the kids?

    Yes, I know I’m being bitter but I thought I would get it in before the rest of the neanderthal posters did.

    • Anonymous says:

      I am not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but those of you who truly believe that it is the teachers’ fault, wake up!  People like you are the source of the problems with these kids.  You blame teachers for everything bad that happens to your children.  You do not teach your kids to take responsibility for their actions.  As a matter of fact, you do not teach them anything.  You send them to school and expect the teachers to teach them everything there is to learn.  You let them loose when they come home, not knowing what they are doing by the neighbour’s house or what they are doing on the computers or what they are watching on TV.  They have no morals at home and then you expect teachers to work miracles. Can’t you realize that you ought to mirror at home, the values that teachers are trying to teach them at school?  But then again, do you attend HSA meetings (or do you know what I am talking about)?  Do you attend parent consultation meetings?  Do you pick up the phone and call the school to find out how your child is doing?  How involved are you in your child’s life?  How much more involved are you than his/her teachers?  The only adult guidance that many of these kids have is that of their teachers.  How sad?  Sad because they become lost when they go home in the evenings!  Sad because they become confused…what happens at home is so much different from what happens at school.  And please don’t start the argument about foreign teachers and Cayman’s special cultural needs.  The need to be responsible, respectful of property and of other people, the need to love and care for each other, the need to accept each other’s differences and live in peace and harmony are fundamental cultural needs that Caymanians and all other peoples of the world need to have.  Believe me, there is nothing Uniquely Caymanian about that.  And to even utter the phrase, "frustrated because expats will keep them out of jobs", is gross ignorance.  Teachers are making every effort to teach them the skills that are necessary to take their positions in the job market.  You on the otherhand, are teaching them that they don’t necessarily have to do well in school and acquire the necessary skills or display the right attitudes and behaviours to become employed.  Instead, you tell them everyday that they are Caymanians and that’s all that is required to be hired.  And you further instigate rifts between them and the expats your country recruited.  Come on, stop being foolish!  If you send all the expats out of the country tomorrow morning,then there will be jobs for every Caymanian I guess.  You will probably still need to hire a few expats.  But the reality is that every employee will need to have the right attitude, behaviour and skills to get the job done.  You have to teach them that those are the requirements and not the fact that they are Caymanians.  Read the Governor’s BLOG entry entitled "Ten Wishes for Cayman" (http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/roller/jack/entry/ten_wishes_for_the_cayman).  He encourages Cayman "to think global and local at the same time; to welcome expats who contribute to wealth creation and essentialservices while at the same time promoting opportunities for Caymanians".  The only way to promote these opportunities is by supporting the schools in developing these young minds and doing your part in promoting the right attitudes and behaviours at home.  Stop blaming and start uniting for the better of the country.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well then why don’t some local people train to become teachers????? Blame jolly foreigner for kids throwing rocks  – Please.

      • Anonymous says:

        I think he was being sarcastic so don’t waste a much needed brain cell trying to work it out. You can’t afford to lose any moreor the remaining one will get lonely.

        • Anonymous says:

          Yes I was being satirical because every post on any subject gets back to it’s not Cayman’s fault it’s the foreigners.

  26. Anonymous says:

    This really makes me angry!!! Throwing rocks at someones child?

    How were these kids raised? don’t their parents instill a sense of right and wrong? If that was my child that through those rocks they would be beaten to within and inch of their life. Something needs to be done about the whey young people think about violence. This is not a video game kids!!! this is real. The child could of died or  suffered brain damage. What happened that was so bad that caused someone to hit another student in the head with a rock?

    I can’t wait to hear why? was it done  just for fun to bully I child?

    One angry parent

    • EastSider says:

      I asked my grandson who attends Middle School if he knew about the incident and if he did if he knew why the boys attacked the other student.  He told me that they attacked him because he kicked a ball over the fence and that one of the attackers bullies a lot of children.  Now, isn’t that a good reason to seriously injure someone’s child !  It is a sad disgrace what is happening to the youth of Cayman.  They have this belief that because they are juveniles they can just about get away with anything.  Makes a good advertisement for home schooling in my opinion.

    • Anonymous says:

      Perhaps statements such as "beaten to within and inch of thier life" and refering to punishment of one’s own child……could also be considered "think about violence"?…….hmmmmm

      I pray this child is going to be okay and hope that such violence is discouraged first at home and by example. Words are much more powerful than most people realize. I trust you did not truly mean this part of your statement. Anger is a result of fear. God Bless

  27. Anonymous says:

    That is the correct approach-charge them…The gang warfare in this country is home-grown right in the schools.

    Do you know that the schools are divided up into “districts”? students are only allowed to go into the areas that they are from!!!

    Do you know that the teachers and authorities know about this and leave it as it is?

    This poor boy probably walked over to the wrong ‘district’ and this is the result!

    We need to sort this out if we are to sort out the gang problem in the wider society.

  28. Anonymous says:

    Murders, robberies, muggings, school violence, bar brawling, "armed" taxi drivers!!! Did I wake up in Chicago South Side, LA South Cerntral or the Bronx in the 80’s?

    I’ll crawl back under my rock, if there’s anyone left after all the mayhem, come and wake me up, I’ll turn the lights out as I leave.

    Ooops, almost forgot, I not got no place else to go!! What happend to my Beloved Isle Cayman???