(CNS): The minister with responsibility for overseas territories, Chris Bryant, made history this weekend when he became the first homosexual MP to enter into a civil partnership in the Houses of Parliament. The UK minster and Labour MP for Rhondda, who is also a former Church of England clergyman, tied the knot with his partner, Jared Cranney, a company secretary, on Saturday. The couple’s ceremony took place in the Members’ Dining Room, overlooking the Thames after the Speaker John Bercow gave his permission for it to go ahead. In a statement released afterwards, the couple said they were "enormously grateful" to Mr Bercow and Leader of the Commons Harriet Harman for making the "really special day" possible.
“We never thought this day would come – and never thought we’d have to worry about cakes and flowers and rings," they said. “It’s amazing how much things have changed in such a short time.”
The Civil Partnership Act 2004 gave gay couples the right to obtain the same inheritance and legal rights as married couples.
Bryant was also the minister ultimately responsible for supervising the establishment of the Cayman Islands Constitution 2009 and its bill of rights, which has been drafted in such a way as to prevent any similar rights being afforded to gay couples in Cayman.
Boo the gays are here!!!!
Cayman has always been so insecure about their christian foundation..please dont tell me the lil gays are gonna rock your boat.
Tell yah what lets invite all the gays here so that our strong christian foundation can fix them ….but i have a feeling they might get shot,judged robbed or pick up a drup habit…point is theses people pose no physical or real moral threat to anyone.
Church needs to back off and let Cayman evolve socially.
I wish for them a lifetime of love and comfort, and freedom from the "christian" (small "c" deliberate") judgements. I lived in the Cayman Islands for one year, and have never lived in a more judgemental, nasty community. May God bless and protect all of those who live in Cayman that are foreigners, homosexuals or expatriates. God made this earth for all to inhabit. The most hypocritical population I have ever mingled amongst.
Well good for you and for Cayman that you no longer live here. Thankfully most people do not share your embittered opinion. You still seem to be interested in a terrible place that you lived for only one year though.
I think you mean "degenerate" socially. Change with the effluxion of time does not necessarily mean improvement.
His Will is unmoving, unchanging! Each and every word in the Bible is truth, including all that is proclaimed in the Old Testament! Women should not be wearing pants, just as men should not wear dresses! You must not eat pork!
And I hope you my brother/sister are doing God’s Will 24/7! God bless!
Happy April Fools’ Day, now go back to preparing for the rapture:
"…and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air."
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
Best for the rest of us ifyou are not driving when that happens. Watch out for the airplanes as well. I guess we should probably prohibit pilots from being Christians, and probably revoke your drivers licences as well, in the name of public safety.
I’m not sure how they got the caramel into the Caramilk bar, and I sure don’t know how or why Moses got all those dinosaur bones into the ark to sprinkle around the place after the flood. And God said: “Seriously, bring those too. No, it’ll be hilarious, trust me! They’ll be talking about this one for centuries.”
Lol. Indeed! The poster might’ve been taking the mick though….Happy April Fools!
A little light reading for some Christians:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases_by_country
How’s it goin’ Your Holiness? Kind of shocking when you consider these same individuals preach.
Congrats to the happy couple !!
I wish the "christians" of this community will stop this bashing of a human beings choice as to the way they choose to live. Take responsibiltiy for yourselves and let others gay, straight, lesbian or whoever be. I wish that homosexuality was the only issues we had to deal with, because if that was the case what HAPPY place this would be.
Congrats to the lovely couple, what the people need to do around here is help solve the murders……and for sure we know it aint GAY people doing it either….
PRIDE
How do we know that? There is at least one murder currently before the courts in which that is a serious possibility.
You all would be surprise about the amount of gay people here so those out there bashing gay Caymanian ‘s you better hope its not your husband’s , brother’s cousin’s uncles nephew’s and the list goes on because we GAY’S are here in Cayman and you work walk and talk with us and don’t know who most of us like for example police officers lawyer’s ,doctor’s nurse’s and the list goes on and as for this Christian morals foolishness they the same ones that doing it or have family members who doing it or friends too but typical Caymanian always looking to point at people or discriminate before they take care their own problems and mind their own business ,
And congratulations to the new couple
Do us a favor, if you are a man, find yourself a woman, and if you are a woman find yourself a man. And I’m insulted by you classing our Caymanians Christian Morals as foolishness, it obvious you don’t read the Bible and you don’t even know what you are doing is wrong. Just take a look around, why do you think God made women for men, and men for women? And why do we have different sexual organs in the first place? For a man can’t carry babies, but the woman can, and the woman can’t make babies but the man can. You Gay’s have a different thinking, if God wanted to, he could have made the world with only men or only women but in his eyes it would not be appropriate or even serve any purpose for multiplication and the world population would never grow, and the women or men would just pass on and there would be no more and you would not even be in this world if weren’t for a man and a woman . And I don’t care what you do with your body sexually, but to come on here a bash us Caymanians for our Christian Morals and beliefs was not necessary. And you Gay’s talk about us cousin problems, when you all get up and making a whole lot of noise about getting the same rights to marry or have children like heterosexuals do, so we also have the rights to protect our beliefs and embrace our Christian Morals and appreciate that we are heterosexuals just a well, so when we make noise you all shouldn’t have anything to say.
We Caymanians already know that we have our own dose of Gay’s and we are not denying it, so it is no surprise to us and I have a Gay member in my family also, but I do not agree with his sexual choice, but again that’s his life and I don;t care what he do with his body sexually, I just do not agree with homosexuals, for in the eyes of God that is not the way he intended us to be, it is pleasing in his eyes to see us with our opposite sex that he created for us, be ye men or women.
"it is pleasing in his eyes to see us with our opposite sex that he created for us, be ye men or women." Is God a voyeur then? Why are we denied porn if what you say is true.
God made homosexuals also.
Why do some people say God works in mysterious ways then assume they understand His intentions?
God’s will for us is revealed in his Word. His working in mysterious ways has nothing to do with the issue.
I think the poster poses a good question. Each time I’ve heard someone say ‘God works in mysterious ways’ it has been in relation to the reason why God performed a specified action – the reason behind the action is a mystery. It would seem to me that intentions and reasons are very much linked. To understand the reason is to understand the intention. Thus, if you do not understand the reason then you cannot understand the intention. Pieces of a puzzle awaiting completion.
That is pure sophistry. What it is really saying is that you are unwilling to follow God’s commands unless you know his reasons for them. It is not of course correct that you cannot know what God’s intentions unless you know his reasons. He can be very clear on his will but his reasons may indeed be mysterious. Of course there is no mystery why he would forbid homosexuality.
I think there are more serious issues right now than the fact that these two gay men chose to get married. Once again, Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged. Whether we consider it right or wrong it is up to God to judge them, not us. You would do better to remember that the good book also says Thou shalt not kill and there is too much of that going on here now for the Christian Caymanians to worry about than people’s sexual choices. I am sure a lot of the Caymanians that call themselves Christians have family members involved in the gang activity that is happening right now so they should look to that before bashing people’s sexual orientation.
"Once again, Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged"
I doubt that there is a more repeated, less understood maxim in the whole bible. The command not to judge has to do with hypocritical judgement and assuming that you know what another person’s motives were for their actions. It most certainly does not mean that one should never distinguish between what is moral or immoral, right or wrong, good or bad. We all judge that rape, incest, murder etc. are bad, and not good. Obviously there is no need to preach that those things are undesirable, after all they are illegal as well as immoral. The difficulty arises when we go beyond those values that practically everyone holds in common and touch on issues such as homosexuality which has a very vocal albeit minority support. It is then, and only then, that the biblical injunction on judging is appealed to. Of course the same people have no difficulty judging christians by equating disapproval of homosexuality with hatred, suggesting that pastors who hold homosexuality to be immoral are themselves ‘in the closet’ etc.. All of this apparently is fair game.
The truth is that all behaviour should be judged (in the sense of distinguishing right from wrong, rather than meting out punishment for it), but of course starting with our own.
There are many statements in the Bible which can be used to support a wide variety of very different agendas, purely based on the way it is interpreted. This has not only resulted in heated debates but also branches of Christianity claiming different ‘truths’. One statement ends up having multiple meanings according to who you talk to, each person claiming that their meaning is the only correct one. Perception is marred by a wide variety of factors – personal feelings, what an individual has been taught, experiences, etc.
Perhaps, in order to attempt to understand God we need to first understand ourselves and each other – a task which very few have seemingly attempted and even fewer seemed to have accomplished.
We’ve all heard all the arguments both sides have to offer with regards to homosexuality. Perhaps, it’s time we all start thinking outside of the boxes we are currently trapped in. Step out of the box and listen to the other’s side, feelings and beliefs aside – doesn’t mean you’ll end up agreeing but perhaps you might see the world from a different angle.
I am not sure how your post relates to my point but it is self-evident that "do not judge" cannot mean that one must never distinguish between right and wrong, good and bad, moral and immoral, i.e. that one should should amorality. Making such distinctions is what the book is all about.
Wow it is now 14 thumbs up and 26 thumbs down, anyway the book is not Exodus It is Leviticus on homosexuality, in Leviticus 20:13 it says, if a man also lie with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have commited an abomination; they should surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them. It is more to the chapter on homosexuality, if you going the read Leviticus, it best to start from chapter 20:12-14.
Maybe start at Leviticus 20:9:
9For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
10And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
So all you good Caymanians best go gather up the pinheads that are disrespecting mommy and daddy and CHOP OFF THEIR HEADS!
You good Caymanians also need to go gather up the pinheads that are boinking their neighbour’s wife and CHOP OFF THEIR HEADS TOO!
Good Christians that you are…
Leviticus 20:15 has something to add:
15And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
… nothing more to add to that one, except don’t eat the meat.
Dating animals is just wrong. I remember the story about the man and the goat in the East End. Killing the guy would be a little extreme. He needs therapy for sure.
Just want to thank all of you who clicking the like button for this comment if you wish to reach me f eel free to do so via e-mail ruben_whittaker@yahoo.com GAY PEOPLE will get a quicker response but will reply to them all thank you for supporting the Caymanian gay’s
I think that you all are being stupid. If this is what they want, let them be..They arent hurting you!!! I’m sure that there is no plot to disrupt your beliefs, but if everyone in this world thought about everything the same way…then this world would be done and over with. Its 2010, Get over it…
Congrats Guys—-
Exactly, what *is* this world coming to? When people have the audacity to choose their long term partners and get married, showing commitment and love to the world. I don’t know. Where will it end? We can’t have people being happy, it’s not in the Constitution.
We should build a jail on the moon and put them all on it. Let’s have a whip round, see if any other countries are up for pooling their resources and making this a reality. And hold a prayer meeting. That’show you get things done around here.
LOL
This is too funny, every preacher will have this in his sermon this Saturday/Sunday (they were running out of material anyhow)
Hope the Happy Couple Honeymoon in Cayman.
Congratulations to a lovely couple. I really hope they had a wonderful day.
I’ve noticed a couple of alleged Christians making derogatory comments about their partnership – I thought that God was good and understanding. Oh yeah, I forgot. If you’re a bigot you can manipulate the word of the bible to fit whatever your own prejudice is!
So many of you go on about morals and Christian values. Out on a Saturday night dressed like a hooker and dressed like a nun for church on a Sunday…
Or some "Christians" have such a fragile hold on their own sexuality that anyone who is "out" presents a threat to their sense of well-being….
What a cute couple. They should compete in "The Amazing Race".
Hey, how come he can get married in the UK but here in Cayman–a country he is overseeing–gay people can’t even hold hands on the sidewalk without sparking a national emergency?
Our closeted preachers and politicians here in Cayman must be so jealous that men like this can live happy open lives, being who they are, without having to lie, pretend and sneak around.
WOT?!
I thought Mac was just over there, to explain to him that these Human Rights are the root cause of all crime. And then, Bryant just goes and gets gay married.
The only reasonable response is for heterosexuals to refuse to get married.
All homosexual couples in Cayman should be forced to marry, and, thus, endure the same indentature that heteros must face.
Congratulations to the happy couple.
Best wishes to them!
Hopefully one day in the near future, Cayman will allow freedom of sexuality and give homosexuals the rights they deserve, instead of forcing them to live in shame…
I hope so too….
Why descriminate homesexuals??? they are human too…
people should accept the fact that in this world there will be man, woman, gay, lesbian… its like having white and black people in the world… STOP discrimination…
CNS…
What is the purpose for this article?
How does this article effect our policies with the UK?
Please do not post meaningless articles.
Are you stupid? How is this meaningless you block-head????
We are of course a BRITISH DEPENDENT TERRITORY!
Wow, who are you to tell CNS what to post??? Just because you don’t support the article, and let me just clarify as some ignorant folks will be ASSUMING i’m gay. Well I am NOT. However, I do wish to point out that the fact that the man is gay is neither here no there. It OBVIOUSLY didn’t stop him from getting the job….
I am happy that CNS posted it because we have to follow British rule, so suck it up and read on!!!!! Dull, trust me.
God Bless all.
CNS dont pay Mr Anonymous any mind, you just go right ahead and post what ever you think will be an interest to Cayman. Afterall we are BOTC, so why would.nt we all want to know about the person incarge of BOTC. What is meaingless about that?
What a message to send … UK Parliament now has Mr. & Mr. Bryant /Cranney joined in marriage in the Houses of Commons, this takes the iceing off the cake.
They look like twins.
What???????????????????????? will they think of next.
The end of the world must be getting close.
Christians take heed.
That’s hilarious !
We will never make it…
Population to compare:
Cayman 54.000
Europe (that’s east of the planet Cayman or to the right if you look at the map) 731.000.000
North America 529.000.000 (right on top)
The rest of the world should listen and look up to Cayman.
Great, can I have your dog when the rapture takes you?
did they really have to wear matching purple ties?
I can’t wait for the comments here…
Congrats to the guys !
Purple neck ties !!!! Guess when we do it here the colour ties will be GREEN.
Red neck ties would be better!!
How sweet! I bet Nick Sykes is having a cat over this as he seems so obsessed with gay stuff. But dearie me, don’t they look like brothers rather than lovers? Love the ties!
But it stands the same chance of ending in tears as heterosexual relationships. I hope we get the same coverage then as we have now but I doubt it becausethe gay lobby in the UK has the media feeling a tad guilty for those of us who like women. They love to publicise the hetero splits but can you imagine them doing the samefor the homo splits?
Somewhere in a quiet Grand Cayman home, Pastor Al’s head just exploded.
I actually saw him on Day Break this morning, his head was in tact….
intact is one word ! Unless you’re saying he was using tact…which would be very unusual..and news worthy…as from him that would indeed be a feat.
so bryant is responsible for caymans constitution??? ..typical caymanian attitude..blame someone else…..
the fact is bryant and the hrc did the best they could when faced with the ignorance and stupidity of caymans politicians and so called ‘church leaders’…
Best wishes to the lovely couple!
Congrats!!!!… maybe one day the people will have rights in Cayman!
The British deliberately put Briant over the OT to include Cayman, We have to watch him closely as I believe it is a plot to destroy our christian and moral values, we are prepared to give them a fight if they try to force anything on us.
The UK did this on purpose! that ‘s how low they will go.
FYI – it’s Bryant. Learn how to spell.
With all due respect… what a load of shyte!
I thought God gave us free will. If we have the choice of gay civil partnership then we can exert free will and choose whichever path we want. Permissive laws do not undermine Christianity, more accurately they turn a forced system into a choice where we can express our moral selves.
OMG are you for real!!!
Seriously you think you they done this ON PURPOSE!! A PLOT TO DESTROY YOUR CHRISTIAN AND MORAL VALUES!!
Cayman needs to wake up and join the 21st Century. Cant you just see this for what it is two consenting adults cementing their relationship and proclaiming their feelings for each other!!! What on earth do you think they are going to force on you anyway????? For goodness sake get a life!!!
I say congrats to the guys and wish them all the happiness in the world and hope that one day Cayman will wake up to the fact that gay rights are a fact of life not a warped plan to corrupt their Christian values!!!
Yes, That’s exactly what they’re up to! It’s a homo plot to make everyone in Cayman, educate their children to have a sense of self-worth, respect and tolerate those not like themselves, polished manners, nice dress, respect for culture etc.
Homo tourists (if they make it through the immigration Gaydar) insist on admiring the fabulous 18thC. furnishings at Pedro Castle and shopping all the time! A threat to civilization!
I agree with you and believe me we are going to be the first ones they target! Give it a week! The devil never sleeps boy! He always finds a way! But all I can say is, those of us who believe in God, don’t let the nay sayers destroy your christian beliefs! They might control us by their laws but they can’t control our beliefs!! If that type of lifestyle is not for you, continue to be strong in your christian faith and pray to the good Lord above to help you and your loved ones each day to raise above all that’s evil and unjust until it’s your time to depart this world! God help and God bless my christian people and please help us to stay strong no matter what is thrown our way. Amen!
LOL!
And they sent chips! And the U.S. sent fried chicken!! To give us all high cholesterol. It’s a plot between the UK! and Colonel Saunders! That’s how low they’ll go.
That’s right! Before we know it they’ll be breaking into our homes and redecorating!
Gotta love hipocracy at its finest – no Cayman citizens will ever get these rights under the constitution he oversaw.
Oh wait, silly me, there is no such thing as a gay Caymanian, so this is a moot point.
So if your Caymanian and gay you cease to be Caymanian… hmmm maybe someone should tell the vast amount of gay Caymanians this.
Unna miss da point…
It was a jab at the basic hypocrisy that exist in Cayman – clearly there are a lot of gay Caymanians, and I know a few, but there are too many holier-than-thou’s out there who bash gays and other people’s ways of living, while not even checking their own lifestyle and that of the people they surround themselves with.
It is called denial – and boy are we full of it sometimes.
Its amazing how the Christians pretend there are no "Gaymanians". It baffles me as gays have historically been members of the Church.
What is this world coming to?
The world, as we know it, is coming to an end, that’s what. Remeber, like a thief in the night.