Daylight robbery in GT

| 17/08/2010

(CNS): Updated The small Tortuga liquor store on the corner of Boilers Road along the George Town Harbour front is the latest victim of a daylight robbery. Police have now confirmed that around 3.30 pm today, Tuesday 17 August, a man armed with what appeared to be a handgun entered the Tortuga liquor store at the junction of Boilers Road and South Church Street. The robber threatened the two female members of staff before grabbing one of them and demanding cash. He left the premises with an undisclosed sum of cash and was last seen on Boilers Road heading towards Walkers Road on foot. No shots were fired and no-one was injured in the incident.

 The suspect is described as being 5′ 9” in height dark complexion, medium built and spoke with a Jamaican / Caymanian accent. He was wearing a brown shirt, dark blue jeans, brown sunglasses and had a brown cap pulled low over his face.

Anyone who was in the area at the time of the robbery and witnessed the incident or the man leaving the scene is asked to call George Town CID on 949-4222 or the confidential Crime Stoppers number 800- TIPS. (8477)

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  1. Anonymous says:

    How sad we have become please save Cayman Brac and little Cayman

  2. Anonymous says:

    The "good old days".

    There was no theft because there was nothing to steal.

    There was no drug problem because there was no money to buy drugs.

    Wanna go back?




  3. Anonymous says:

    Like it or not the society is still sheltering local criminals. Family and friends know who has a gun or know who has money without a job.

    It isn’t rocket science and you cannot tell me there are not people who don’t know who some of these armed robbers are.

    I hope they feel guilty for keeping secrets which hurt the society. It is only a matter of time with armed robberies that someone will get shot and perhaps killed.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Not that I agree with it, but this is somewhat similar to losing the cruise ships with not having an appropriate facility.  The situations are continually reactive and not proactive and trying to shut the gate after the horse has gone. It appears there is no real deterrent to thwart these crimes, and no real real deterrent for under performing in civil/government duties. A lot will behave from example with the trickle down effect beginning at the top, – what else can we expect. . .

  5. Long time resident 40 years says:

    I am sick to death of everyone blaming the goverment, the party in power, the police etc etc. Lets be honest, on a small island like this the families know who wre reponsible so why dont you just go and tell the police or are you waiting for the island to colapse with no more criseships, no more expats to do the work, and no more winter residents. Frankly I am thinking its time to move on. I have cameras, alarm systems and my wife walks around the yard with a panick button around her neck! Where is the ayman  fell so completely in love with 40 years ago? 

  6. islandblues says:

    I live close to Captain’s Bakery where the robberies took place last week and where many muggings happen a lot along this area of SMB along West Bay Road. Not ONCE since then have I seen any police cruisers roaming around or parked there during the crucial "10 pm to 2am time" when these things generally take place. And the Subway that was robbed that same night is a stone’s throw from the police station! Where are these cops? It’s beyond stupidity and laziness, this needs to be investigated now. Just 3 years ago I could have walked out at night alone and never worried one bit, now I fear going out to my car past 9pm, let alone walk into a retail store at 3:30pm!

  7. Anonymous says:

    wake up Cayman!!! this is a step ahead and these thieves are getting brave daily.. all these days they were quick enough to get out of the stores right away, this time they grabbed the staff.. the next thing you will hear is they shot someone b4 leaving…this is no different than any other country… if the cops cotinue to neglect it is going to get out of hands soon…

  8. Anonymous says:

    I love my home and my friends here in Grand Cayman, but this place has gone to S _ _ T. Not only expats will be leaving, but Caymanians as well.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Why should this situation surprise you? By now you should see that nobody in Government who has the power really cares.  You see, they have high security, with guards, personal drivers,  all the turtle meat they can eat.  We, the people, who voted for these clowns, have very little and it is daily getting smaller.  Robberies are going to get worse if The Cayman Islands Government does not get off their duffs and do something construcitve about it.  Stop talking Cayman.  Do what the UDP did in the early 2000’s, change the Government, we cannot do any worse than we have done. 


  10. Anonymous says:

    What is a Jamaican/Caymanian accent? That puzzles me. It must be either or either.

    • Anonymous says:

      Maybe someone who has been here a long time and the accent is getting mixed up with Caymanian, or a Caymanian putting on a Jamaican accent or Jamaican putting on a Caymanian accent.  Or, more likely perhaps one of the 3000 plus who were handed status in 2002/2003 with no background checks. 

      • Anonymous says:

        Or their 7,000 dependants who were granted status with no effective  background checks….

      • Anonymous says:

         "Or, more likely perhaps one of the 3000 plus who were handed status in 2002/2003 with no background checks. " Soooooo they waited 8 whole years to start robbing people?? those sort of comments and animosity against Jamaicans, expats & every other non-caymanian is why this country is going down the drain. Tell me who are the BORN-CAYMANIANS going to work for when all the expats are gone? Do you realize that cayman has absolutely NO natural resources to support itself. The whole country is ran by foreign nations (Banking & Tourism), so before you open your mouth and talk BS think about that.

        And FYI 85% of the crimes committed here are done so by BORN-CAYMANIANS that feel they are ENTITLED to whatever they want. don’t believe that? then check the prison statistics.

        • Anonymous says:

          Your stats re prison are wrong…and in any event do not account for the fact that most crimes do not result in a conviction, much less imprisonment…

        • Anonymous says:

          I don’t know if the person waited 8 years.  They could have been committing crimes all along.  FYI I’m not a born Caymanian.  I’m an expat.  I am not prejudiced against Jamaicans or anyone else. As I said, it oculd have been a Caymanian putting on a Jamaican accent.   Just being realistic.  We already know for a fact that some of those granted status have committed crimes.  What we don’t know is how many have criminal backgrounds because unlike any other Government in the world who would be meticulous about background checks, ours at that time chose to sell out their birthright.

    • great one says:

      it is not to me!!

      because we have a lot of people from cayman that like to think that they are from jamaica, so they talk like them, dress like them and even act like them!!!!! i have two girls that when they are talking to me they are talking like they were born and grown up in jamaica, i got so mad with my 10 year old over the weekend for that, and i let her know right away that she’s not from there so please stop talking like one.

    • Anonymous says:

      Plenty Caymanians speak with an American accent, or some try to put on an American accent.

    • Anonymous says:

      West Bay Caymanian or East End Caymanian? Or possibly Status Grant Caymanian? You folks are a riot!

    • Anon says:

      My boyfriend is a born Caymanian.  He speaks with a Caymanian accent, until he links with his Jamaican friends, then he quite easily slips into a distinct Jamaican accent.  Accents aren’t always what they appear to be.

    • Anonymous says:

      puzzled???… ever heard of the term jaymanian?

    • Anonymous says:

      "What is a Jamaican/Caymanian accent ?"

      It’s an accent spoken by a Jamaican Caymanian this is distinctly different from the accent spoken by a Caymanian Jamaican. Who prefers to sound more like a Jamaican. I hope that helps.

    • Anonymous says:

      It is ‘either or" NOT ‘either or either’….Gosh!!

      Hope u’re still in school..

      • Dick Shaugneary says:

        It is not "either or" either, so hopefully you are both classmates.

    • Dr. Pepper says:

      Ah the narcissism of small differences.  Bless.

    • Anonymous says:

      Probably the staff were unable to distinguish. If you’re not from here and have not been here that long being unsure of the accent is a distinct possibility I’d have thought.

  11. Anonymous says:

    This should not come as no surprise to anyone living in the Cayman Islands. Violent crimes such as armed robberies of business premises and residential homes are now the order of the day by roving criminals.

    I’m expecting to hear that one of our police stations will be robbed at gun point shortly. Afterall, if the West Bay Vehicle Licencing Department which is directly in front of the West Bay Police Station (approx 350-400 feet away) can be broken into and a large safe removed by criminals who most likely used a vehicle and went undetected under the nose of the police, then why should it surprise me or you that a police station will not be the victim of an armed robbery next ??

    I’ll be watching and listening and when it happens, I’ll write/post back to CNS and say, "ah…….. tal ya so" !!!!!!

  12. Jenna Lopezio says:

    Here we go again!!! ….

    Another robbery when is Grand Cayman gonna go back to the older days when there wasn’t so much crime almost every other day I mean seriously what is Cayman coming too .

    What the Premier should do is go to Immigration and do a immediate research on who is here in the Cayman Islands.

    Because we do have criminals here who have either been smuggle into our Island(s) and are here and being aiding and abitting by other members who they associate with and get every single last one of them OUT! of our country ; and another thing that I’m currently aware of is that in Jamaica they can have their Police Record erased and cleared so they can migrate into other countries around the world.

    And what the they should do for the Caymanians ONLY! … and not by marriage/status … meaning your a BORN CAYMANIAN CITIZEN WHO HAS GENERATIONS OF FAMILY HERE!

     Have an employment centre where they can be trained how to perform in the workforces around the island … have it where you earned your cerfticate that you have knowledge of how to perform in the workforce .

    After you have finished the course you will be constantly becalled up to be  in interviews until you have been employed meaning they don’t give up and you don’t move from the course until you have been employed.

    This will help ALOT! … With decrease of the crime rate.



    • Anonymous says:


      • My2cents says:


        Where they were born has very little to do with how theybehave today.

        • Anonymous says:

          But it has lots to do with helping to determine whether our border protection systems are working, if not where the areas that need to be fixed are, and whether or not revocation of permissions and/or deportation of such persons are solutions that can(and should be) be contemplated.

        • I think two of them were from Honduras

    • Anonymous says:

      Broad daylight with thousands of tourists…lucky no one was hurt!!!  Thank you Commissioner Baines you are doing such a splendid job!!!

    • ex-pat eric says:

      How many generations does it require to be a "BORN CAYMANIAN CITIZEN"?

      I love these ridiculously stupid posts!

      • Anonymous says:

        ………… you asked the question here is the answer on,"How many generations for one to be a Caymanian", you really want to know? Try 10 generations! If you don’t talk like me, walk like me, act like me unna can’t be one!!!!

        • ex-pat eric says:

          No way can it only be 10 – surely it has to be closer to 20!

          • Anonymous says:

             Not necessarily.  My father was the youngest of 5 and his mother had him late in her child bearing age and he in turn had me late in his life as well so that cut down on the number of years of each generation.  My ancestors are about 10 generations back being that we have a history of having children late in child bearing age and I’m the youngest.  They live very long too like late 90’s.

        • ex-pat eric says:

          Following several unsuccessful attempts, permanent settlement of the islands began in the 1730s.

          The generation length is 25.2 years in the United States as of 2007[2] and 27.4 years in the United Kingdom as of 2004


          So 10 generations means that if your ancestors didn’t arrive on the first couple of boat loads, then you aren’t Born Caymanian. That makes a lot of sense, thank you for the clarification. I suppose as well if you did trace back that far but can speak the English language properly, you are in trouble!

    • Anonymous says:

      Wow! with a name like JENNA LOPEZIO is that Caymanian? or did you marry a NON CAYMANIAN???!!!!!! Get a grip woman we are all in this together Caymanian or NOT!!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Not to take away from your rant about everyone except BORN Caymanians living in Cayman…but have you ever heard of "Cayman disease"? Google it…and you will see the result of many years of internarrying. So thankfully with the introduction of "new blood/genes" into Cayman, the disease has slowly been decreasing.  here is an excerpt from this link:

      "…Arthur Bloom, the director of the genetics division at Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center, in New York City, has studied the genetic consequences of inbreedingon Grand Cayman, a Caribbean island, northwest of Jamaica, that was colonized by the English in the eighteenth century and has about fifteen thousand inhabitants of mixed slave-and-English ancestry, who lived for many generations in five isolated population centers. Bloom told me not long ago that genetic problems have emerged in the last several generations. "It takes a number of generations before the gene frequency goes up enough for disorders to occur in significant numbers," he explained. "Each population center has its own spectrum. A lot of children in West Bay have San Fillipo ‘A’ syndrome, a mucopolysaccharide-storage disease, usually lethal by adolescence, which is not seen on the East End. One per cent of the West Bay population is afflicted with a recessively inherited syndrome that we call Cayman disease-it includes retardation, ataxia, and disturbance of gait-and eighteen per cent are carriers, so it is a risky situation in terms of mating. Six in every thousand people in the East End are born deaf, which is the highest incidence known in humans-the normal incidence is one per thousand," On Grand Cayman, as elsewhere, the deaf tend to marry each other, so that all their children are born deaf. Bloom collected several eight-generation pedigrees there that show a steady rise in the frequency of congenital deafness.

      This was even reported as recently as 2006 in the Net News:

      So I guess there is SOMETHING to thank expats for….bringing in new genes and new blood that has effectively decreased the chances of this genetic disorder.

      I am an expat, here 9 years, married to a Caymanian and we have 2 young Caymanian children that are being raised here to know and understand and love their Caymanian heritage. So are you saying that they should be kicked out too? They know not very much of my home country.  And I have assimilated myself into Cayman’s life and culture etc.  I dont cook much food from my country, as my kids would rather eat oxtail, stew chicken, stew conch, plantain, rice etc than meatloaf and gravy or spaghetti and meatballs or baked cod which is the customary foods from where I grew up. I am an expert cook of Caribbean food and custard top cornbread and cassava cake, etc as well and I learned most from my mother-in-law.  Together, my husband and I are instilling Caymanian traditions in our children. Please do not group me and my children together with the group of criminals as you mention above.  We are productive citizens of the Cayman Islands. My children are the future generation of Cayman. Are you really wanting to throw the next generation out of the country? How many children would that be? 50% of the next generation? My bet is that it is even higher than that. 

      • Anonymous says:

         Both of my parents are Caymanian and there was a lot of intermarrying.  No one is retarded or have any disease.  It is possible to have children with no disease if the family line doesn’t have diseases.  Inherited diseases are passed from generation to generation and if the same family which has diabetes marries their own the chances are higher that they will have diabetes.  It is real simple really to understand.  If my family does not have an inheritable disease then I can intermarry and nothing will happen.  

  13. Anethesiologists are a Gas says:

    I have had enough of the ongoing Crime in Cayman. I won’t be back and we are cancelling our Research Retreat in January….55 employes and spouses.

    How can such a small Country have so much crime committed by such a small segment of the population and do nothing about it?

    No wonder the number of work permits have fallen by 6,000 in the past year and the population has fallen by 7,644. It looks like the CRIMINALS are not leaving.


    So we will instead.

    • Anonymous says:

      Its simple really. We blame everyone else for our shortcomings. For instance, we repeatedly hear about the 3,000 grants. Certainly, it wasn’t done properly, but the majority of people who received the grants deserved them as they were mostly Caymanian relatives who fell through the cracks.  Its sad that some are so insensitive. If there were 200 bad recipients some feel obligated to condemn the 3,000. Thats no different than saying all Caymanians are lazy and/or believe in Cayman Supremacy. When we aren’t blaming others, we are looking for handouts. We want everyone else to train us. The most common phrase in the Cayman work place is "No one showed me." The truth is, success is derived through self determination and persistence. Anyone waiting for help is falling behind.  

      Finally, we often hear that if Cayman cant open its doors because everyone would want to work here and we need to protect Caymanians. Apparently everyone wants to leave where they are to come here. Cayman has approximately 23,000 work permits. The world has approximately 6,700,000,000 people. Apparently the other 6,699,977,000 that aren’t here have no better place in the world to live, no better standard of living and no better jobs. How arrogant have we become?

      The last 6 years has we have been declining. We have less banks, less jobs, more unemployed. We are no longer the 5th largest financial centre, despite what our promotional magazines say. Interesting, we have fewer people. Apparently those 6,699,977,000 aren’t flocking here. No one should be surprised at this. After all, for the last 6 years we have heard things like "We want our island back", "There is too much progress", "Foreigners want to take over our country". This is all scaremongering by the local politicians and part of the reason behind the rollover policy. In short, Cayman is getting what it truly wants – to go back to the "good old days". Ironically, while going back to the good old days, we want to keep our airconditioning, high paying jobs, fancy cars, large boats and elaborate houses. 

      • Pending says:

        Another great phrase in the work place for Caymanians is "That’s not in my contract, why should I be doing it?"

        And we wonder why others get jobs ahead of us……

    • Anonymous says:

      Work permits have fallen by 6,000 in the past year, but how many work permit holders have now been granted PR/Status/RERC’s in that period? And how many crimes are committed by persons who have received those permissions and ought to (but are not) having them revoked?

    • Anonymous says:


    • Anonymous says:

      I heard about a hit-and-run accident in Brooklyn, NY recently. Obviously the streets there are not safe. So I’m cancelling my planned vacation to the New York area.


  14. Balanced View says:


    Can’t believe that we are still having the debate about guns for business/property owners when we have criminals robbing us at gun point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This is sooooo typical of us Caymanians.  Want to give evidence without showing our faces; willing to be robbed without protesting that we be ready and meet this crime serge head-on (nice and naive to a fault), want our kids to be well educated but can’t get jobs when they return home because there are no opportunities for Caymanians ( nad protesting is sooo non –Caymanian);
    Continue to switch black dog for monkey come election time and expect different results!
    Every single thing that is happening today is as a result of decades of the tail wagging the dog! Where are the succession plans / roadmaps for these islands?
    Where is the environmental protection laws – we can’t seem to even get emission standards approved because we have intellectual juveniles representing us.
    Can’t successfully prosecute criminals.
    Can’t get our schools built but can spend 9mm on a hurricane shelter in the Brac.
    Can’t pay for garbage fees but want to make national sewerage mandatory….
    Got 9% unemployment but have thousands here on work permits as security guards, pump attandents, cashiers, shelf stackers etc.
    Why even bother with this diatribe – the Electorate are all numb/dumb to the realities around them.  
    If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
    Good day y’all
  15. Anonymous says: