Thousands sign against road closure
(CNS): A coalition of local activists campaigning to preserve the West Bay Road and access to the beach in the area will be formally submitting a petition to the governor on Monday containing well over three thousand signatures. During the past three months, the Concerned Citizens Group, chaired by Alice Mae Coe; Save Cayman, led by Capt. Bryan Ebanks; and the West Bay Action Committee, led by Ormond Morgan, and numerous volunteers have gained the support of thousands of people. The planned road closure is part of a proposed deal between government and the Dart Group allowing the developer to create on ocean front resort on the site of the former Courtyard Marriott.
"Although it has been a monumental task, each of our volunteers has willingly stepped up to the plate to participate in what can only be described as a labour of love for the Cayman Islands,” said Coe as she commended and thanked all those involved and every Caymanian, resident and visitor who exercised their democratic right by signing this petition. “Working together for the right reasons have been those who are truly for Cayman.”
The activists, who have been working under the moniker Truly4Cayman, now plan to make a formal presentation to the governor and are asking the public to join them when they hand over the petition at the government building at 4pm on Monday 12 December to Duncan Taylor to demonstrate the widespread support for maintaining the status quo on Seven Mile Beach.
Government is proposing to allow 2,500 feet of the West Bay Road from the public beach to the yacht club, which is crown land, to be swapped for other land belonging to Dart, a cash donation to the public purse and the construction of the Esterley Tibbetts extension to West Bay, as part of the ForCayman Investment Alliance with Dart.
The proposal was announced in the spring and since then government has been negotiating with the islands’ largest developer about the various aspects of the deal but has not yet signed a final agreement. However, since those talks began government has signed a financial framework agreement with the UK government which requires greater scrutiny of all government plans for capital projects and independent reviews and analysis of any public private partnerships.
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Dart will be getting the better part of this deal, therefore Dart should maintain the roads from Camana Bay all the way to West Bay. Put that in the contract too. The new Esterly Tibbets Highway is poorly maintained now, so if Dart can maintain it, including proper drainage that might help the agreement of the deal. In regards to the beach, it should be written in the deal that the Public will always be welcomed on that beach without harrassment from the Hoteliers and that in the future the general public will NOT have to pay to be on that beach, nor be charged to enjoy the amenities. I am a bit concern about that, as the hotel will be classed as a 5 Star Hotel.
It seems to me that the resort project would be a nice asset to the tourism of Grand Cayman. It is troubling in a couple of respects. First, eliminating that section of road and forcing it into the bypass would only cause a bottleneck and traffic congestion. That proposal is ridiculous. Secondly, there is no reason that Dart can't design a plan that would work well with the current layout of the land. South Beach, in Florida, is one of the most beautiful and successful tourist areas in the states. There are lots of large hotels and shops in that area, and NONE of them are right on the beach. I can't imagine them closing the beach blvd to let a hotel have exclusive access to the beach! Why should they do it in Cayman? Dart could easily design and build overhead walkways to access the beach, and make them work well with the architecture.
So, while we need the project to increase jobs and tourism, Dart needs to compromise and work within the boundries of the land that they have. I'm sure, with the talented architects that they have on staff, they can make it work.
What ever happen to that 2nd piece of land in West Bay that Dart donated to government for another park many years ago? Was that rezoned? Is there a business on it? Does it belong to a certain someone's son?
Understand that the sole premise that is driving this coalition of protestors, is not (like how some many of you are falsely purporting) about one party being better than the next, but the sole premise that is driving this group forward, is the issue of sovereignty – the people to have sovereign control over major policy making. No policy that is of massive development, should be decided behind the backs of a constituency, without consulting them and without getting their agreement. Unfortunately, our Constitution is messed up! The people should have the right to propose legislation of national importance or that would dramatically effect their livelihood. They also need to have the right and the power to recall and punish those who work against the interest of people and society to the country's ruin. Cayman needs a new political process which will serve the interest of the people instead of the interests of a handful elites. These coalition of local activists, should not be seen as mere attempts to just thwart development. This is a serious issue of sovereignty – who is the head of this government??? The UDP, PPM, a group of politicians, the UK, wealthy people, or should it be the People who live, work, and call this place home!
As far as the new road extension/construction is concerned, are we giving Dart that strip of WBay Road – and then they say he is "giving" us a road through his own property??
I think he'd have to build that new access road himself anyway!
So, that is no real gift to us…
I think Dart has a bit of a cult of the personality in Cayman. Everybody refers to Dart Group as if it were the man himself, and everything the company does is a benevolent gift.
Can't you people see that this was in the works for years!??? It's going to happen, whether you like it or not. the premier don't give a diddly about no petition, he's gonna do what he wants and his shadow puppets are going follow along, single file in their usual manner.
Dart is as much Caymanian as anyone.. the only difference is he is a billionaire.
Every Caymanian is a paper caymanian… over the last 100 or so years, people from all over the world have moved here and will do so for the next 100 years.
The island has more Jamaican culture then Caymanian culture.
You say this is your island.. well actually it is everyones island… there are no indigenous people to Cayman that can claim Cayman as their own. All your minds are clouded.
It really pissed me off the the poor Caymanian loese jobs to the ex-pat, when in fact the Caymanian just isnt qualified as they think they are. They walk into a company for the receptionist postion and want the CEO's pay… then quit 2 weeks later.
Think of all the money that the ex-pats put into this economy. 15% poeple on this island make up for 80% of the wealtth and are mostly ex-pats.
You think that the expats are to blame for everything wrong in Cayman and you are being taken advanatge of… come on, without Caymans tax advatanges this island would be like Haiti if it realied only on its beachs as an economy.
You all need to wake up and pick your battles where they count.
Speaking of clouded minds… people like you who leave your own country and go to someone else's country and show absolutely no respect for them or their country are nothing more than a shameful disgrace to your selves and your own country. Go back to where you came from and make trouble there if that is what you like doing best. That is probably the reason you had to leave there to come to Cayman. This is coming from an indigenous Caymanian who would really prefer to not have aliens like you continue to come here and try to corrupt our country and continue to try to disgrace our indigenous people. Go back home if you do not like things the way you found them here. This country and it's people will be better off without the likes of you, and you won't have indigenous Caymanians to worry about. Is that REALLY too much to ask?
Just full of negative stereotypes about Caymanians, aren't you.
Sorry bobo, Dart is not as Caymanian as me and many more. A piece of paper does not a Caymanian make.
Could you produce even MORE generalized cr*^p?
if he is "generalizing" then you are admitting he is right to a degree.
Listen you expats, you don't care about our islands…….yes I am refering to you bunch of money hungry people……..I AM A CAYMANIAN and this is the country my Father God gave to us to have peace and joy for the time that we are on this earth. Leave our country like you found it, you all want to make changes, go back to your country and make the change there…….or be quiet and enjoy what you fell in love with…….OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLANDS!!! I am so sick of these so call greedy MLA's and LOGB, you were elected for the people and for the benefit of this country. Isn't it enough that you are getting a FAT CHEQUE already????? Do you have to sell our country to expats???? What will we, the Caymanians have when you allow them to take over? Look at what is going on right now, gun and drug wars, breaking entering and the list goes on. Why because certain West Bay MLA did a massive injection of status holders into our islands. Now the Caymanians have to flee from their country to another to make ends meet…….do we go there to change how their county works? No we go there to better our lives, because our country only has money hungry MLA's that are only thinking about their own pockets and their familys, while the rest of the people of the country suffers. They suffers for food, jobs (don't tell me no crap about Caymanian don't want to work……that is a lie, because our own Caymanian people sell us out for a expat or the expats come to complain and just keep us down)……..GREED!!! NOTHING BUT GREED!!! Mr. Bush you should be ashamed of yourself, allowing your people to suffer……remember GOD is in control NOT YOU!!!! You are not GOD, you are man so be careful of how you treat his people.
well said, except please don't generalize ALL expats the same way. there are many here that are on our side and love the cayman islands
I too am a Caymanian and I am appauled but your last statement. How can you sit and agrue that it is the expats who have come to destroy these islands. WE elected the people who serve OUR interests………..expats can't vote. Expats, whether they are from the USA or Jamica have come to these islands to also better themselves…….they can't make changes to the laws or policies. Now there are some very wealthy expats who are enjoying a close "friendship" with our politicans…..WE must eliminate the thread that connects them to the ability to make changes to laws and policies, if the thread is not cut then WE are to blame!
In order for these islands to again prosper, a new mentality must be used. We are all surronded by expats who are friends and co-workers and it would be ignorant for us to look down upon them because they are not "born" Caymanians. I pray for these islands as this is home and it will be my children's home, and my children will grow up around expats; expats who have been caring and loving these islands just as much as a Caymanian does.
Stop the blame game and lets make changes.
Okay, I am leaving, one down, how many to go?
Not very many, at the rate things have been going down there. I just heard of another leading lawyer packing it in and going back to the world, and there is just no replacement for that particular person anywhere. London wins, Cayman loses.
25,000 and counting…..yipppeeee
Here we go again. I doubt you and I have ever met. You have no idea what I do or what I've done since I arrived here. You have no idea what I think or what I feel. You are making s**t up about me and then verbally abusing me in a public forum.
And then you remind us all that "God is in control".
Based on your words, I would guess that you are a horribleand hateful person and anything bad that has happened to you is not because of anything anyone else has done but because of your own evil nature. My guess is that you will burn in hell.
EVERYWHERE i have travelled overseas, the indiginous population is considered lazy.
Dart now owns 25% of the island. We will soon be known as the "Dart Islands". Keep WB as it is!
don't worry…. dart and no-one else has any interest in the real west bay (after the 4 way)
25% of the Island? Really? Please post your calculation that justifies your use of this number.
He also uses shadow companies to buy land so it would be hard to do.
With as many accidents we have had recently on both the WB bypass and the mainroad, which have both caused a serious back ups in traffice, even with the TWO road options…someone please tell me why we would want to drop down to only ONE road option in that section of the island. Stupid move to me.
Oh and a bulldozer and move hurricane sand pretty quick. What it can't move so quick is the large yachts which found it way onto many road from the North Sound area where they were docked during hurricane Ivan. Ivan won't be the last either!
Think little lambs, THINK!!!
Thousands of idiots.Mabye they will change thier minds when we have to lay of hundreds of civil servants. money soon run out.
My guess is they're the same thousands of idiots that voted for you know who. These folks will put their X on anything white with a line on it.
Can an FOI be done on all of DART companies and actually how many Caymanians or with status are employed. Show us the proof Mr dart if you really mean well for the Cayman islands and its people. I am not just talking about the construction part of your projects but projectionsand training incentives for future Caymanians. Once you include us please spend your money as much as you want as long its going to protect the Enviroment and Caymanians.
CNS: FOI only applies to government. You cannot request information on private companies unless it is your own.
10 hr updates don't work….
We will see.
Congrats to all you have signed. Cayman is worth fighting for!
I like 20 hour updates even less but thanks for a great job anyway CNS. We continue to pray that someone else ends up in court before you do…
Why are people signing this petition again? I think let us give the man a break on this one, he has invested a lot and the acutal level of harm is low, we are mostly talking about a view. Beach rights have not been taken from us. i think this is okay>
I agree with you. This 'argument' about "scenic views" is pathetic and simply does not hold water. As a matter of fact it looks to me like we are simply exchanging a 'scenic view' of the Caribbean Sea for a 'scenic view' of the North Sound. Only problem is the West Bayers won't get to sit in traffic for hours viewing the scenic North Sound while burning out their hard earned gasoline and thereby polluting the entire area. Sounds like a pretty good deal, yes?
CNS – can you look into this ? Because I heard part of this deal was that Dart got the public beach. Mac was then trying to find us a new public beach and one of his proposals was take over the governors house for a public beach and build the Governor a house in Savannah.
Umm stop listening to what you hear and start digging for facts. Most of what you hear in the marl road here in Cayman is either incorrect or grossly distorted – I came to learn that years ago.
So I did your digging for you on this occasion:
The West Bay Corridor projects will extend and enhance the existing Public Beach; provide an additional Public Beach
to the North; extend the Esterley Tibbetts Highway to Batabano Road; provide 20 acres in West Bay for a new community
to grow in and relocate a section of West Bay Road to facilitate the development of a new four- to five-star hotel that will
revitalize Grand Cayman’s tourismindustry while also creating employment and business opportunities.
More information available here:
http://forcayman.com/Fact%20Sheet_West%20Bay%20Corridor%20Projects-040811.pdf
Thank you very much. Is there any way we can possibly draw this to the attention of the 3000 West Bayers who, as usual, have signed their X's without bothering to even start doing their homework? Lord have mercy on us.
Truly4Cayman is a joke!
These people claim to represent the Caymanians but as it was referred before in the media they are all CAVE men / women (Citizen’s Against Virtually Everything). As a young Caymanian the only future we have is the development and expansion of our country and its industries. These jokers are individuals who have either made their fortunes on the initial growth of these islands or they are just plain stupid.
My children need oppurtunities when they become of age to fend for themselves. The current economic base can’t even support the graduates of 2005 much less the class of 2022. There is no strategic plan for placing our children in jobs and they are graduating high school and college by the hundreds. If we don’t create something worth having here we will be compared to the city of Detroit Michigan with poverty on every corner and stories of how great the place used to be.
The older generations need to wake up! The young people of this country need work and you all have the jobs. Either step aside to let the kids of this country get an oppurtunity to work or do something useful and push for projects of growth and positive development of this island. When your dead and gone, the children of these islands won’t care if they can see the sea on their way to work. Remember, they are unemployed becuase you didn’t create oppurtunities for them!
This is sickening now – we need to get our youngsters in jobs and away from a life of crime, guns, and drugs…… Already sounds like Detroit!
WAKE UP!!!!
There are plenty of jobs in Cayman
Of course there are. The problem is there is almost as many Caymanians without jobs in Cayman as there are expats with jobs in Cayman.
There are as many expats in Cayman than there are Caymanians, so your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
Sawana,
The knowledge that comes with experience and age should not be insulted. You too will eventually become the "older generation". I wonder if at that point you will be so willing to step aside to whims of a younger less experienced generation?\\
However this opinion is shared by the older and younger generation of our islands population.
Opportunities and development are both necessary but so is family planning. We all need to be more mindful of how many children we have before we set about making them.
CAVE = Caymanians-Active, Vocal, Enthused!
Sincerely,
CAVE Bodden
No other developer ever needed a road closure to build a hotel. What we object to is preferential treatment for Mr Dart and what may be used to buy it. We are fed up with people buying their way around here. We also object to the consideration for this courtesy being more investment in West Bay. West Bay is an isolated enclave of Cayman that is poorly laid out, drug and crime ridden. No one goes there if they do not live there. This is not value for Caymanians. It is so that the Premier can go to his church and say that he has delivered his people, rejoice and be glad in it. Value does not only mean 'do the figures match up' but 'can everyone benefit in a roughly equal way' I am not going to drive half an hour to Barkers. What Mr Dart should be giving us if he wants his road is bulldozing Dart Square and replacing it with a green space. But he would never do that because he receives rent. Better to give West Bay some mangroves.
You are correct that our needs have not changed; work, growth, opportunity. What has changed is our values and our sense of what is a good life. The coast road is the only feature of our infrastructure that has survived the boom of the last 40 years. It should remain as it is. Decrease the speed limit and landscape it properly if you wish.
Huh? Many hotels and condos exist ocean side (between WB roady and the beach). This is utter nonesense.
If you want to protest things like this at the very least explain how you would deal with the $100m liability and eysore which is the dump, fix the currently abandoned hotel and get people working / grow the economy.
Thankfully most of these writers are not in decision making positions. This place would be like Haiti if they were.
The dump should be handled by a proper commercial expert such as the party the CTC chose after a process provided for under our laws, not handpicked by McKeeva. There are hotels ocean-side and they have the road next to them. We do not need to hand a Rolls-Royce development site to the wealthiest developer on the island. He can pay his own way and make whatever hotel he can make with the site as it is. I do not object to development, I object to favours and short-termism. Doing things like this is the road to Haiti, not the way to avoid it.
In the book "A Special Son: The Biography of Ormand Panton", the story is related how "English millionaire Benson Greenal" attempted to bribe Mr. Panton to move "the road on Seven Mile Beach", moving it "farther east so as to leave more land for development."
Mr. Panton was asked to "help get the ExCo to approve the change" for which he would be paid 15000 pounds. Mr. Panton did not agree to this request. However, the next day someone else did raise the matter of moving the road in the meeting of the ExCo.
"Agreeing that the proposal would help development, Executive Council voted that the road from Galleon Beach to Pageant Beach be moved to the east, in a straight line, rather than follow the shore as it then did."
It would seem that it is a time-honored tradition for developers to offer to pay to get roads moved or closed so that they can build hotels and a time-honored tradition for Caymanians who should do better to accept those payments.
aiye boiye, Dart certainly has a plan for this island and his pocket!!!
all I know is this, once we loose it or sell it, we will never get it back.
More important than the road closing was the giving away of the public beach. Where are the people going to go to the beach when this is gone. Oh let me guess as Elio said on the radio the other day we are not losing a public beach we are gaining 6 acres with a park. Haha, great tell me where we are going to swim on that park ?? He calls the show "Factual Friday" however a better title would be "FRAUDULENT Fridays"
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Im amased at your ignorance. what public beach are you speking of? not the seven mile beach that i know…for sure.
Your sentiments in regards to Ellio and the beach, reflex the ignorance of you all, who that signed that document, against the realign of the west bay road.
you have proven that the majority of you that singned, dont even understand the layout of your own beach. Kenneth Dart is not taking nothing from you. he is giving you an extra 6 acres of land to extend your beach.
This means more parking for your vehicles, more showers to wash the salt water off your a@@, more cabanas to shade you from the sun, and cook your bar-b-q under, more landscape…which he is the best at. More beach land for some of you to litter on.
Do you have enough sense to realise that these people who initiated this move are all political motivated, and are now running a campaign to remove the present Government. and guess what is going to happen to you all…nothing will change for the betterment for you or your family.
For the strip of land that you claim you want to see the sea from, should Mr Dart landscape it, you wont be seeing no sea, and he has all legal rights to do this.
Why didnt you all cry out about the other 6.5 miles of beach that you gave the other developers to block the sea view. Think about that, or it's all about the one man and his money, and the Premier.
There is light at the end of the tunnel, Cayman. Mac has fatally shot himself in the foot by pissing off three thousand West Bayers. Sorry, three thousand and one counting Aunt Sookie. Or maybe three thousand and three if we count CG and Rolston, whose heads are apparently still spinning too fast to decide whether they are pissed off or not. What a guy! Quite frankly, from what I have seen of Dart's projects in Cayman, I firmly believe this will be a good one, and that the gripe about the relatively small stretch of road being moved is unfounded considering that we have roads with scenic ocean views on every inch of Cayman's coastline. My personal gripe is that Mr. McGenius saw fit to give Mr. Dart, the richest man on earth, tens of millions of dollars in concessions for the privelige of doing business on our shores. Tens of millions of dollars that could have put our Government coffers in good shape at least until Mac could come up with enough excuses to spend it travelling around the world. Tens of millions of dollars that will be a drop in the bucket compared to Mr. Dart's first five years profits once this project is operational. What a crying shame. WHY does Mr. Dart and McKeeva's church get these kinds of concessions while the average Caymanian is struggling like drowning dogs to make ends meet in their own country so these chosen few can live very, very large in our country? It is McKeeva that we need to put a stop to in this country, West Bayers, NOT Mr. Dart. Forget about the silly piece of road and get your ducks lined up for the sake of our country and for the sake of ALL of our people including yourselves.
Oi….
Try and understand what really is going on here…its not about the road, its about the beach.
With that section of the road closed, which provides public access to the beach, the Caymanian public's access and routes to use the beach are severely limited, if the resort itself does not attempt to section off that portion of the beach for its own exclusive use.
Once that portion of the WB Road becomes Dart's private property, Dart can control and limit public access and use of the beach from either the West Bay end or the George Town end, depending on the parameters that this resort will cover and how access to the resort will be controlled.
Some Caymanians will but any puss- in- a bag on a promise and when those promises are broken, they are the same ones to cry and bawl like babies….
Before Cayman buys another puss- in- the -bag, they need to demand that Dart shows the public all plans and diagrams of this resort and how it will impact the public's use of the 7-Mile Beach.
It is NOT just about the view
Truth and justice WILL reign supreme in this country. And no amount of thumb downs in this world can stop it.
Yes, call me an obstructionist against economic progress! I may not agree with an activist on every single issue, but I will tell you this: I defend his or her right of speech and expression, when we have a system of government that cares not what the People say, but would put them under the bus for big names like Dart and Ryan. No matter if the project will benefit us greatly, they are setting the wrong precedent. There is no respect, no democracy.
I'm all for scrutinizing projects to ensure value for money, but surely even the daftest can figure out that this Agreement with Dart is a great deal for Cayman….a cash-strapped Government and its unemployed people.
What needs to be scrutinized is this petition. How many of the petitioners are unemployed? How many have printed (not signed) their full name and address? How many actually live here in Cayman? How many are voters? How many signed more than once?
A tempest in a teapot for sure. I hope the Governor doesn't take this grand-standing seriously.
Government needs to get on with this deal, get people back to work and help improve this country's infrastructure to help Cayman maintain its healthy reputation as an investment jurisdiction and tourism destination of choice.
Are there any petitions out there calling for decisions on crime reduction, feeding the hungry, saving the environment or any other truly nationally important issues?
I agree with your comment and would add the only more unreliable barometer for the people's opinions are blogs such as CNS.
No offense CNS but to read these news items one would conclude that Ezzard was God's gift to Cayman politics. I could possibly buy into that view hadn't I actually listened to him rant on Rooster.
As a tourist, I love driving that stretch of road. I usually stay along 7MB, but make sure I drive up to West Bay a few times each visit all the way to Macabuca with my windows down as to me, it is a beautiful ride especially when the sun is setting. I do not get that view at home and take that vision back with me. I do not completely understand the whole benefit of closing that section of road (except to build the hotel), but oh, it would take a part of Cayman away for me. Even during my last stay I ate dinner on a blanket by the public beach watching the sunset. That stretch is beautiful………………..peaceful………no high rise buildings……….just the sea…and the setting sun…….
Just my 2 cents.
My only concern about this transaction is the loss of the West Bay – does anyone even know whether Dart Group will proceed with the deal if they don't get the road closed off?
If we save the road, then the rest of the project will get my full support – and I am from WB too.
If his deal is so good, Dart not getting WB road should not be a deal breaker.
Even the daftest can figure out that this Agreement is also a great deal for Dart,. Dart stand to make an absurdly substantial amount of profit once his plans have all been finalised, and the lands value will increase dramatically, and his hotel will be making huge amounts of money. When it comes to Cayman or Dart, it seems pretty much clear to me that Dart is the one who wil reap most of the financial benefits out of this deal in the long term. In fact he'll be sitting pretty… even though he doin that already – its a complete WIN WIN situation for Dart.
A house divided gets nothing done.
Where do i sign?!?!
Sign right here________________. But only if you can spell your name correctly.
A petition is all well and good but perhaps a better display would be a vote here…
So thumbs up if you want the proposal to go ahead, or a thumbs down if you'd rather keep the road as it is!
There are many devolopments that go ahead that I disagree with, however I see a lot of advantages and very few disadvantages with this plan – give them the green light and let's get this show on the road.
sad people….. to be honest its just the typical small town, ignorant ,stubborn caymanian way…..
i garauntee 1000% that the dart plans wouls improve that whole area for everybody…..
spoken like an id*ot.. a clueless one at that.
look at the thumbs id*ot……
we need to preserve our island…there has already been drastic changes that have uprooted our culture…closing down a road is not moving forward….its greed
CHANGE…is the only constant in this world my friend. Get used to it. Remember when that road was hard packed white sand and donkeys were the primary mode of transportation and we used oil lamps to light our homes and buckets to dip water from our wells to take a bath and smoke pans to fend of mosquitoes and TV's were unheard of? We've come a long way, baby
And a big thank you to the inconsiderate moron who decided to block traffic at the west bay cemetary at rush hour so they could stop every car and hand out a flyer.
Traffic was backed up halfway to town.
What a stupid cause….
Just a taste of what is to come when the road is blocked off
We want our roads and Island more……..money is not everything.
But food on the table is most of everything!!! Got milk???? Where’s the beff?????
CUC's got the milk, and if you're from West Bay you will definitely get beff come next election, and probably for Christmas too.
Why don't they have a website and on-line petition? That way more people (like me) would sign it
Where is the petition to go ahead with this development, I would like to sign that
The Gov will accept the petition after he cashs his big paycheck. That's what he does best look good and pull down big money for doing nothing. He lets the country fall apart and does nothing.
I am truly proud of you and all that you stand for!!
Me..
In related news, some 47,000 persons did not sign the petition.
Of the 47 thousand, how many have a long term interest in the island?
Apparently none.
You are so correct….if the people for jobs and economic growth do not also stand up weare done. A road that all you see is some cocoplum bushes from and destroyed every small storm we are “protecting”???
Bring on a petition FOR the road closure and I for one will sign it!
Nor did 47,000 sign a petition for the project.
Amen to that.
Because most people are lazy, haven't seen it, or are fearful to sign & have their name noted down. I'd sign but haven't seen the petition.
There's no longer approx. 60k people here anyway, plus most of the population can move once the island is spoilt so probably don't worry themselves too much about this.
Well done to all those trying to look after Cayman.
This country and it objectionists baffle me, they want jobs and advancement and more government but every project designed to bring these things are rejected by people who reject change.
That section of road is blown out by sand with every major storm and flooded. These objectionists will sink Cayman.
Actually no, our people are only protecting what is rightfully theirs and it is not for Government to give it away in strange land deals that do not return equal value for money. Capeche? More power to the people, I say. We are finally showing some backbone and telling Government that we will not just accept anything they dream up. It has to make sense to the rest of the people who live and work here, not just to those who stand to benefit.
I woukld venture to say, more than half the people behind those signitures never had a clue what they were signing. As many people I spoke to, were missled by the objectionnist…. that Dart were taking away their beach, this misleading speach were also said by the opposition (quote- we will have less beach)
I see no gain for the Caymanian people if this road is not diverted, I see properity for the Caymanian people if it is diverted. Caymanians that signed that petition, be careful what you ask for, the people behind this alliance, to object are all hopeful political candidates, and are in high gear to topple the present Government. Whenever and if ever they get into those seats, Cayman will sink. They don't have a clue how to boost the economy of this country.
Thank you. I would put the ratio at 2,950.
Being blown out by sand is no reason to give away the people's property – if the road had no value then the reciepient would not want it.
Not only that, the person representing Gov was so conflicted out that we can't really trust that the best deal was made on behalf of the country or in his own interest.
And another thing, it only takes a minute to have the sand and debri removed from the road if and when a nor'wester carries it ashore. Thankd God the UK might block its give away if the business case is not acceptable.
I for one, and I am a West Bayer, want to retain that piece of road as I love being able to see the beautiful scenery as I drive down that stretch, and there are many in West Bay who feel the same way I do.
Amen!!
You did make two good points. The entire second paragraph, and the last sentence of the third paragraph. Thank you.
Just sayin. I've been here only five years. I live very near to this area of road. We have had many storms since I've been here. Only this past one did I see the road closed for a day or so because of sand and water. My point is this, your reason, "That section of road is blown out by sand with every major storm and flooded. These objectionists will sink Cayman", is not a good reason at all. Just sayin.
Who benifits the MOST from this anyway, and why? Not your average person. Again, just sayin.
Your comment shows that you are not a true caymanian. When you get your change there will be no Island left for people like me or my kids to live. This Island is becoming only for the rich and you must be one of um.
Empty Vessels…
And closing the road will stop the sand from coming over from the beach when nature takes its course ever so often?!! LOL! Give us the "objectionists" a break!! We have lived with that happening for many years and it has not killed us yet! AND for the most part we have enjoyed the view while driving that stretch of road.
LEAVE IT ALONE!!
You don't live in west bay do you? Thats not the section that gets closed.