Robbers in 3rd doorstep heist
(CNS): In the third robbery of its kind in a matter of a few days the police were on the scene of a home in George Town on Thursday night. A police spokesperson said that an investigation had opened into a doorstep heist in George Town. Two armed men reportedly confronted a woman at about 7.25 pm tonight (Tuesday 17 January 2012) in Antoinette Ave, Webster Estates as she arrived home. The men demanded cash before making off with a small quantity of the woman's money and some jewellery. Police said no shots were fired and no-one was injured in the incident but no descriptions of the suspects were available at the time of the report.
The robbery comes on the heels of two similar crimes at the weekend when a West Bay man was robbed in his own home Sunday evening by a masked armed robber at around 6:53 who stole his wallet and two cell phones and a mugging again on the doorstep of a home in Palm Dale. In the early hours of Sunday morning two masked men armed with a knife and a gun stole a cash bag containing an undisclosed sum before escaping on foot from a home owner as he arrived at his house.
Anyone who was in the area at the relevant time of the latest crime, tonight and has information which could assist police is asked to contact George Town police station on 949-4222, the RCIPS tip-line 949-7777, or Crime Stoppers 800-8477 (TIPS).
Category: Crime
Far too many young guys are just out there idling on the streets. They are being ignored by police on patrols, their baby mommas are supported by Social Service…so life is good for them! I always wonder why so many get employed at Christmas to clean up, and mind you in most cases it is a good job that is done…but why are they never retained somehow and employed to continue earning an honest living. Yes many of them have no ambition or vision but if they were my children I would haul them up off therir backside and make them work. Of course this must start when they are just kids. Too many children are being allowed to cruise through life without striking a lick as they say.
I say allow people to be trained and armed with a fire arm. The reason there is less of this in the states is because you can get a license and backpack a gun on terms of self defense. Why would I(as a thief) try to steal from some who could possibly turn around with a gun (knowing how to use it better than me) and end my life. When you take away weapons from law abiding citizens that would use them to protect themselves, the only people left with weapons are the criminals. Not even down to the most of the police have guns how can they protect us, especially when they take 40mins to come from around the corner. I have witnessed first-hand a bank robbery in cayman wherethe two security guards had to cower on the floor as men came in with guns and beat them to the ground. What sense of security do I have when the "bad guys" can bully around our protectors. Cayman needs to do something about this right now before it gets worse. The criminals are being empowered by the lack of discipline and authority, and doing as they like. You will soon see less people coming and supporting the island, after all who wants to come to country where you can't even walk the streets without getting mugged. Whether it be arming the law abiding public or security or increasing the police force, something needs to be done.
Problem is the police / government are allowing this to happen. Robberies escalated in 2011 and we brushed it below the carpet. Private residence properties were not reported in the media, police would show up a couple of hours after the event, take a statement another couple of days later and then nothing. It was kept in the dark and continued to grow until here we are – cannot even walk from your home to work.
Round up these punks, keep on their backs, follow them, pull them in, question them so they know they are being watched. People of Cayman, we need to stop these people helping themselves to our property.
Commisioner Baines, do you follow up on reports or are they just filed? When a witness gives a statement do you check back to see what progress has been made on the incident – or is it just filed?
I for one will be carrying a bug spray or something that I can and will spray into any attackers face – and will dealw ith the consequences later.
This isn't really news anymore, everyone knows that it's not safe to walk Cayman Streets at night and it seems not even during the day any longer. And I am really no longer surprised when I read this stuff. Caymanians are like sheep and aren't really prepared or willing to do what it takes to put a stop to this stuff, the police seem to be satisfied with the fact the since lawfull people are unarmed then these type of incidents won't turn into shootouts so they are OK with the fact that thieves just rob people as long as no one is hurt..
And here's one more morning tidbit for you….
Police are investigating a robbery attempt that occurred near the BJ Tape Club in Bodden Town.
The robbery attempt occurred about 10:30 p.m. and police confirm no one was injured.
Breaking news, but nothing new..
A woman was mugged at the junction of Eden Road and South Church Street at 7:05 a.m.
The victim tells Cayman 27 she was walking to work and saw a guy sitting on a fence. When she walked passed him he said “stop, give me your bag.” He spoke with a Caymanian accent.
I guess this was her own fault, she shouldn't have been walking alone in broad daylight, she have been carrying a Hand Bag and she shouldn't have any money or Jewery on her to be stolen.
These types of comments just go to show what Cayman has actually and finally come to, a place where it is unsafe to walk the streets.
One thing I can say that different in Miami is that thieves and thugs usually end up in jail or in the grave. In Cayman it's like wolves in a sheeps den..
So how do you suggest you fix your country? How do you get rid of the local criminal element?
I'm from Canada. The number one country in the world regarding human development. Where do you come from? Jamaica, Scotland, Honduras, English army deserters? Why I am I here? A change of scenery. After receiving a world class education, Its an easy life here, not much competition for professional jobs, if you know what I mean and then I'm going home. Thanks for not educating your kids.
In Florida you are also 1 in 500,000 – 700,000 people for robberies and murders. A young family can live without the guilt of merely turning on your a/c and the conveniences of having the capability of buying fruits and vegetables along with the many musuems and parks to take your kids to. There are areas that most of these crimes take place and they are easy to identify. There are also many areas of the US (and other countries) that there is minimal crime with the same or more of a population than Cayman. Dont get me wrong there is no place like home and we were set apart mainly because of the warmth and kind hearts of our people…but we are losing all this and so fast its scary Cayman… very scary. A lot to do with greed, losing our culture, our youth and sad to say our lack of unity and standing up together. One can and have tolerated the exuberant high cost of living but that plus the ever increasing crime gives us something to really think about! Eventually there will be a big division between rich and poor as its obvious we are catering to the riches and forgetting our people…
Driving to work today through South Sound and around Eastern Ave at lunch I sawat least half a dozen people who fit the gangbanger profile. Pick these thugs or want a be thugs and shake them up. Otherwise give us guns to protect ourselves
These gangbanger profiles have been around for years and all the politicians and the police included "DENIED" there are no gangs in the Cayman Islands. That is why we are where we are at today!!! They didn't pick them up then they surely CAN"T pick them up now…
We need to "equipt" ourselves. Its important we dont go walking around in fear of these thugs. I refuse to let them change the way we have lived for so long. Noone wants this. We need to turn it around on them. By however we can. Surveillance. pepper spray. Get a big dog from the humane society. Its a shame these idiots are breathing the same air as the rest of us.
New year, new crime wave. Look out good citizens the criminals have started to do their thing again. We must all be conscious of our surroundings at all times. It is what we have to learn to do now. As the Law has made it almost impossible for law abiding citizens to (really) protect themselves we must adapt to use other means for protection. Provide extra lights around our property (CUC happy); criminals love the dark; call ahead to have someone meet you when you get home (if possible); use timers to automatically turn on and off lights and radios to make home look like someone is there; do not give out information about when you will be away on vacation; talk with neighbors about looking out for each other and keep an eye out for strangers in the neghborhood. I try to write down licence plate # when I notice strange vehicles on the road where I live. Just a few suggestions on what we can try to help ourselves.
Now the RCIP needs to step up to the plate. What are they doing to be proactive during this time? Are we seeing the RCIP out and visible to the public? We have almost 400 police officers. What has happened to the promised foot patrols? I think I saw them for a few days around the GT port area the last time we had a 'spike' in crime. The police need to actively walk the beat in the areas that have shown a rise in crime. By now they must have some method or plan to attack the criminals in this society. I bet if they took a close look at the trends in the crime sprees they will see that when certain individuals are locked up the crime level drops and when they are back out of jail it increases.
To ALL the good people of these islands, we need to work together to help each other. The law enforcement/protection arm of the government has let us down. I really don't know how much more the good people can withstand before there is an eruption. Let us pray but don't close both eyes because when they are opened again something might be missing.
Fact: Proactive policing reduces robbery rates. If you don't believe me, the Anonymous commenter, check it out for yourself:
Criminology
Volume 48, Issue 1, pages 57–97, February 2010
NOW GO SCREAM AT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIAL / THE GOVERNOR THAT THE POLICE NEED TO START PROACTIVE POLICING OF OUR COMMUNITIES !!!!
7:06. What garbage!! Kicking out productive people and bringing in new ones carries no weight! The damn criminals are all born and bred here. They have no respect for their parents, no self respect and none for you! You really think any expats want to loose their work permits by taking a chance to rob us?
Oh my God. You saying we Caymanians are to blame? That's blasphemy.
You are the ones who raised these crooks, thugs and thieve… Clean up your own mess,,
What chance? Who is going to catch the criminal? It is high time that we defend ourselves by WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY!
I spoke to my wife about this and I think its prudent to say only to wear jewlery out that you don't mind losing. Meaning put the diamond rings and expensive watches in the safe. Buy a simple gold band and put it on your ring finger so you are not constantly tried to be picked up on by all the eager males out there. Wear the bling only at home when the doors are locked or at a party. Do not wear out at night unless your are going out to a restaurant where you are being picked up or dropped off at the front door. Only park your car and walk in if you know there is security there (still no garuntee). Wear the bling out only when you are going from point A to point B and back again without coming into contact with the General Public such as stopping off at a gas station ect. IF you are wearing a rock that is a years pay to some guy standing behind you while you write a check at the tile store or the gas station etc…he may have nothing better to do then to hang back, wait for you to leave and follow you to see where you live. Don't make yourself a target. It's sad that it has come to this but protect yourself , your things and your family. This isn't the Cayman we knew 10 years ago and it is going to get worse. The world is headed for a worse recession than we saw in 2008. People will become desperate. Get a safe that bolts to the floor and put your things in it you don't want to loose. Demand from our useless politicians that if we have a clear police record that we are able own firearms and that a straight forward process be bought forward to do so.
Lovely if you have to do all that to keep expensive baubles that you cannot wear and enjoy why not just sell them off and not have to worry about it being stolen. The criminals are certainly dictating and controlling how we live
Well we saw the police helicopter fly over our house several times while we were sitting on our porch last evening…we figured somethingwas up!
My house is protecting by God and my gun. Trying doing this to me and I promise you will meet both of them.
The criminal culture has sunk in and our leader does nothing.
Would you really expect him to do something? Keep your ears to the ground and you will understand whts's happening on this piece of what used to be Paradise. We need more people even if we have to import them in coconut husk.
The government is dead silent.
It is time for us to arm ourselves and do justice to the would be criminal. Those who know the criminals in their districts need to be vigilant and prepared. Form groups in your communities and be alert especially at nights. I try to keep on top of people and their movements around my area, whether on foot, riding bicycles or driving cars. They are always scoping out neighbourhoods.
The cowards stop coming into our homes now because they afraid of being shot because they just don't know who has armed themselves and ready for them! This is only going to make criminals out of law-abiding citizens because those that have a license to keep a gun locked up in their homes will start walking with it! God help us!
10:07 the Prophet says then we must stop carrying cash with us from our business and from the bank without first having someone to watch our backs. Is it really that difficult to ask a family member to follow you home if you are taking cash. Besides the time has now come that each one of us would be foolish not to have some sort of defence, even if it is a can of Bageon spray or especially a self ignite torch with a fire spout about one yard long.
It means that we cannot walk un armed in the night alone, simple as that. If you are out ina club or bar or restaurant, pay attention to anyone out of the ordinary who enters and sips on one beer all night. Order a plate of french fries one pepsi and two straws. We are not observing those around us enough.
Hmmmm,… Guess it's time to take off my engagement ring!!!! Not going to risk losing that!
Yep. If you lose that one you wont be getting another one from me my Dear…
These cynical "Caymankind" comments are getting old now. Obviously it must be foreigners posting them. Obviously these foreigners have something against Caymanians to be posting these cynical attacks against what they think is the culture of a whole race. Why are you here if that's what your opinion is? Keep it up…everything in its own time. All it is doing is creating a bigger rift between the two demographics. Don't be surprised when things boil over between Caymanians and foreigners and a whole pile of innocent people (Caymanian and foreigner alike) are caught up in the middle of it. Ask for peace between the two then
Although I agree with you that the Caymankind bashing is pathetic, I sense the expat anger is derived from the fact that our LAWS make it clear to those who have been here many years, they are not welcome. I'm not talking about the newcomers since the rollover, but the ones who were here prior and have their lives inhumanely trapped in an retroactive law.
Ironically, the law was put in place to prevent many from becoming Caymanian, getting votes, and ending up with welfare entitlements. The welfare entitlement was thought to be a massive issue as we could not afford "those" people. Because we wouldn't be able to afford "those" people, it was thought they would turn to a life of crime so its better to get rid of them NOW.
Common sense dictates that "those" people upon retirement, would return to their countries of birth simply because its cheaper to live there. Common sense dictates that if you kick out committed and productive people and bring in those who have no reason to be committed the islands, then economic growth will suffer. When economies suffer, crime increases.
So we may have Caymankind, but we don't have too much Common Sense.
I feel the same way, thank you for your post.
Sounds to me like you have something planned..
Sensible post.
Judging from the thumbs down and LOLs at least 38 posters (probably expats) are not in favour of peace between Caymanians and expats. Unfortunately I think the ability comment anonymously on CNS has contributed to widening that rift.
Why would foeigners who must pay a huge tax on their wages, are treated in a way that some countries put you on a "beware of inhuman treatment"list, who pay a large percentage of on island taxes that earn them no prvivledge or rights, and are basically prey to the protected island born predators have anything against Caymanians? How would you sum up how foreignors are treated by Caymanians here? Due to the Caymanian way of handleing any and all problems on island is so incompetent(means it does not work) what would you call it? Expatkind? Respect must be earned. Peace will come with respect. Expats are ready to bury the hatchet when Caymanians are.
So now we have a new fashion in crime – direct confrontation. Criminals picking off whomever they want, where and when. And the police remain in their air conditioned cars, oblivious.
Apparently not many officials can see the need for good citizens to be able to defend themselves. Instead of encouraging this, they suppress it.
Does it really make sense that our good society continues to allow a minority to prey off them? Have we not removed ourselves from the laws of the jungle?
Webster Estates – no boundaries left. The more brazen these robbers get, it won't be just items they take. For how many years has Cayman been warned this was going to happen? This is what happens when you kick out productive people and bring in those you don't know. What do you call it? Oh yes, boarder control. The escalation in crime was inevitable. Perhaps its time Caymanians concede to those who know better and ask how to get out of this mess.
Yeah, rollover got rid of many lawabiding, ethical, productive, honest and good people who had been residing here for years and who had the best interests of this place at heart and wanted to see it prosper for themselves, their families and for Caymanians alike. Then they brought in the intransigents or those who know they will only be here temporarily and so have no loyalty or desire to report any crime they might witness, especially when it is a local doing it, because they don't want to risk their permits being cancelled (or worse repercussions to them), if somehow the local finds out who reported them. No wonder crime is going up.
Can you please explain that to 19:42 a.k.a. ignorant xenophobe. Too stupid to even know when s/he is being helped. I have no patience left.
Ummm I think boarder control is rent control
If it was better where you came from, you wouldn't be talking. Which country got out of their mess? That is why we are in this mess; we listened to these talkers (experts) who could do nothing for their countries, had no clue but just ran up their mouths to make money andsomeone bought that hogwash and now we are becoming crime infested like our neighbours and other countries. So all you foreign experts, we dont need your expertise or your presence.
If Cayman is so great, why do you travel? Hypocrite!
You so smart. How you get in this mess in the first place?
No the local experts are doing a great job. Do you consider yourself one?
I say, you have very little sense of history. Perhaps its a foreign subject.
I will be brutally honest with you. When I came here 16 years ago, this was a much better place. However, between not educating children, the sense of entitlement, the corruption in Immigration and the decline in the quality of Cayman politicians, I have watched my second home become worse than my first. Ironically, it has become more advanced over the last 16 years and I'm being left behind. This being blatantly obvious to anyone but people like you, I'm already making plans to leave. You should be happy. God bless and good luck.
Police need to give Bodden Town a good check up, because gunman and robbers are still running to that town for refuge.
I would like to know if the people in Cayman is deaf, dumb or plain stupid. They either cant read cant hear and is also deaf. Because every night or other night there is a robbery of the sort taking place, and they are so ignorant that they are still travelling about with money and jewellery on them alone. They just wont listen.
Now for the rest of them who think it cannot happen to them, then you just watch and see. Beside the facts , do you think these robbers is pulling your name out of a hat. Lol.
Good gracious me cant you see that they know before hand what time you will be going home and carrying what. Some of you deserve to be robbed, because you know what time it is, and you are still acting like its 7am. I feel sorry for the poor police because of the stupidness some of you set yourselves up as soft target to be robbed.
Lame. You think we should just bow down to a couple of thugs?
what a ridiculous comment.
in response to "The Prophet"……the mojority of the people in the world wear some sort of jewlery on thier person at all times as well as a wallet or a purse…..and your calling the people that are being robbed ignorant……how do you know it was not thier personal belongings that were taken?…..although with the way you sound your probably one of the people that chat up these stories and make stuff up only to spread rumors….you may even be one of the people that show up to the scene and tell your friends what you saw once again spreading rumors…so your saying the people being robbed are the ignorant ones?……last time I checked 7:30pm was not late in fact a lot of hard working people get home at this time……being that it was in Websters Estates the woman robbed must be hard working…….nobody deserves to be robbed and called the negative and "IGNORANT" names that you have called the victims…..stop being part of the problem…
"Small quantity of cash and jewelry" – what about that you don't understand? The woman probably had a few dollars in her pruse and a chain, watch and ring!!! There is nothing in the article to indicate that she was a business woman returning home with her days earnings, and in this economic climate, no average Jane can walk around with hundreds of dollars in her purse. This seemed to be a random opportunistic robbery and those, my friend, are the most dangerous ones because we are all vulnerable.
You feel sorry for the police? I don't care what time I go home at and enter my house, no one has the right to rob me. The police won't even let us protect ourselves, but I got news for you, better be tried by 12 then buried by 12. People of Cayman you need to protect yourselves, where I understand the police cannot be everywhere, but in all actuality they are no where. Drive around during the day and early evening hours, not one police car seen.
How dare you. Nobody DESERVES to be the victim of a crime. Are you suggesting that if I am merely returning to my own home after a hard day at work, wearing my wedding and engagement ring and carrying $50 cash in my purse that I am ASKING to be robbed? The problem is not ordinary people going about their business, but a whole sub-class of thugs who become bolder by the day.
So Mr or Mrs. Brainiac we must now not go home alone when it is dark and not carry any cash and not wear any jewellery. . For goodness sake it was only 7.25pm in the evening – I guess we must all now come home in daylight hours, travel with at least one person at all times, carry no cash at all and never wear jewellery. What a wonderful world we are now living in – welcome to Paradise. What we need to do is arm ourselves and shoot the little f……ers when they come at us – ask no questions until they are lying on the ground – not necessarily dead but paralysed and no more threat to anyone but themselves.
Every citizen should be allowed to protect themselves. Anyone, who enters my premises who is not known or invited is mine and I am prepared to do justice, depending on the situation that arises. Always have your weapon handy. The law is always for the criminals, especially when taxpayers have to pay for QC's for them, that is a dowright disgrace. It is like casting pearls among swines.
To "The Prophet", what if the robbers just pushed her inside her home and robbed her belongings in her home? What good then would it have done to follow all of your rather misguided advice? Even if she were with someone, two people entering a home are no match against two "armed" robbers.
Maybe you feel empowered by your wisdom, but in reality your ignorance makes you just as vulnerable – and cruelly insensitive.
Forgive me for suggesting that this post was hurtful. To suggest that the victims are stupid or that they deserved to be robbed is outrageous and misguided. The armed thugs are the only criminals for this outrageous behavior. Hopefully they will be caught and get justice.
09:15 and 08 57 please accept my honest apology, if you found my statements hurtful. I really did not mean to offend or make anyone feel hurt, but I am so very upset by what is taking place that it make you feel like walking with a collin machette in each pocket. No harm intended.
Good on you Prophet.
Aaaahhh, just lovely! If this is the calibre of the greater voting public, we are all f*ed, folks.
Unfortunately the robbers have seen the incompetence of our police and justice system. They are taking full advantage. I feel so helpless. What can I do? Get an alarm?
Suggestions:
Cut down all of the flora on your property so the bad guys have no where to hide.
Lots of outside lights that stay on all night.
Burgler bars.
Alarm system.
Unite with your neighbors and turn your neighbourhood into a gated community with lots of razor wire surrounding it and armed guards at the gate (be careful not to hire the crooks as your guards…don't laugh, some of them are smart enough to do that).
Was it dark at Magnum or the banks? Thugs don't care.
Wait now….Cayman Islands Police sent to Monserratt to assist in solving problems (something like that) lmao still rolling on the fall from laughter. They can't even solve the crimes here, what the h..ll are they going overseas to assist some other country. Come on, this is beyond insane. We have so many unsolved murders, robberies, rapes and they have the nerve to go to another country to assist in solving their problems. Governor wake up and smell the roses, Cayman HAS A BIG BIG PROBLEM!!!!!
What are you expecting? the police to walk home your wife and Motherin law every night? If you would stay out of the bars looking Meow!! then you could help.
If you prefer rubbers coming back again and again, get an alarm, but if you want to stop them and learn their identity, get a gun. Just saying.
3 back to back stickups, Now That's what I call CaymanKind. Then again at lease no roads were moved, that would be so much worse and much more threatening to the people of Cayman. Noone seems to be worried about the rising crime rate on the island. I have yet to see anyone try to rally the people together to fight crime…
What is stopping you from forming a crime fighting group?
Oh how foolish of me … then you wouldn't have any time to gripe about the group fighting to save the road.
Unlike you, they are doing something!
Lets see, Miami has year round warm weather, beaches and a lot of Crime. Now let's compare it to Cayman, which also has year round warm weather, beaches and a lot of crime…
You forgot something, for an American its less expensive to go to Miami.
We need to get our crime under control if we are to survive.
There are certain places in the Bodden Town district, that I am sure if they give drug test to the neighborhood, every one will fail, including babies, dogs and cats. Why? because the sent of Ganja and cocaine is in the air and has everybody high as a kite. People are just walking around like in a trance, the very dogs are not barking, and the cats sleep day and night. You cannot open your house window to get any fresh air because you will get high. But guess these people do not pay rent, electricity, water or food. Government does that, yet they cannot help the elderly.
Cocaine has no smell. You are probably thinking of the residual smell from the oil based transportation solvents.
I don’t do cocaine, I just like to smell it once in awhile.
Miami has houses at 30% the cost of Cayman's. It has excellent hospitals, schools, shows, entertainment and sporting events. It has federal income tax (no state tax) and sales tax etc. With duties of 22%, CUC (four times more), fuel prices (double), and work permit fees, we are taxed to the max here.
At least Miami has a decent wide flat beach. Fodor's Guides now describe Grand Cayman as "featureless".
We have a much better beach than Miami has.
At least in Miami, the police turn up when you call. And they actually solve crimes once in a while!!
Yea and you can get a reasonable, clean hotel room with breakfast for 50 bucks a night in Miami, nowhere in Cayman can you get that. You'd pay 4 times that to stay in sunset house for god sake.