Passenger killed in car crash

| 28/10/2012

(CNS): Update 10:42am — Police have now named the man who died in an early morning road crash Sunday morning. He was 24-year-old Egbert Robinson of Bodden Town, who was a passenger in a white Nissan Sunny which crashed into a wall on Mangrove Avenue in Prospect sometime before 3:45am on Sunday, 29 October. All of the emergency services were called to the car crash as both the passenger and the driver were trapped in the wrecked car. The driver, who has been identified by Cayman 27 as 25-year-old Eduardo Robinson Jr, the victim's brother, was arrested at the scene on suspicion of DUI and Causing Death by Dangerous driving after he was released from the wreckage, police said. He remains in hospital in a stable condition. 

Egbert Robinson, who was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital in George Town, is the fifth person to die on Cayman’s roads this year and the second killed this month.

Police are asking anyone who may have witnessed the accident to call George Town police station on 949-4222 to assist the investigation.

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Selling BOOZE at local Gas Stations needs to be stopped. No way Gas Sations should be lisensed to sell booze from 10am to 10pm. That is the most dumb ass decision ever.

    • Anonymous says:

      OMG PLEASE! Selling liquor is but a part of business!!!!! Its getting into cars with drunken drivers, driving while intoxicated and making wise desicions for the safety of your OWN LIFE is what needs to be taken under serious consideration. 100 people can die today through the same thing, guess what? LIQUOR IS STILL GONNA B SOLD TOMORROW!! Wake up ppl! Egbert was my friend too, a REAL SWEETHEART, but his death is not to be blamed on any liquor selling premises. R.I.P. papa, </3 but people need to wake up and smell the coffee! How many times does it has to happen before ya'll learn, drinking and driving DOES NOT MIX!

  2. Anonymous says:

    Come on Commissioner Baines, answer us for once. Please. Some good points are being made here, especially by the reader who lists those examples of bad behavior in his/her post.

    When justified dissatisfaction with the police is expressed by law-abiding citizens, you should listen and reply. You are, after all, a public servant.

  3. Anonymous says:

    I think the survivors of these accidents should be made (after their punishment has been served) to go around to schools and businesses to talk about the effect of drinking and driving and racing on the roads.  They should be made to talk about how it has changed their life and the lives of the people involved.

    • Anonymous says:

      It has been suggested for years that this sort of thing be incoporated into their community service or part of their parole and it baffles me why it hasn't.

      It should be compulsory for all who a) kill someone whilst incontrol of a car and b) for those who get caught for DUI.

  4. Anonymous says:

    First and foremost STOP this bleam game about what governement and what the police should do yes accidents do happen but when will these young men learn cars dont kill people its the people that's driving the cars that kill. How many friend do you guys have to loose for you guys to get the point  SPEEDING KILLS  remember just one wrong move and your life can be over think wise up young people . 

  5. Anonymous says:

    Take photos of every fatal car accident, erect a 12’ x 12’ billboard at the accident scene; half of which is a photo of the accident and the other half is the living photo of the person who died.  The memorial wreaths and photos almost trivialize what really took place at these scenes. We drive past and for a while we remember our friend/family member and soon we drive past and we don’t remember at all. Let this be a very visual reminder of exactly what happens when you drink and drive, text and drive or speed.

    When our children ask what these billboards mean we can tell them and they will grow up knowing they are not infallible, they are not immortal and if they make STUPID decisions there are lethal consequences!

    I have been saying this for years and as another poster previously mentioned, I was told it was too offensive, well I’m not sorry to say but I find the senseless road deaths offensive. Which is worse?

     

    • Anonymous says:

      Good idea  about the billboard- but note that not every fatal accident is a result of drinking and driving, texting or speeding. 

       

  6. Anonymous says:

    Condolences to the family, this is very sad and according to the papers the driver has been charged with DUI. This is all too common in cayman and we are all aware of that.

    However these are ALSO FACTS, I am a resident of this street, this road has been in this condition for over a year and a half now, there is no maintenance, no consistent watering, no consistent sweeping and there have been 4 accidents with damage to property over the past 6-8 months. NRA has been notified a multitude of times and they are always getting to it, before them it was Water Authority. Understandably work needs to be done but what about MAINTENACE during your process. This is also an area where people cut traffic to get to the main road and we have 15-25 kids on this dense residential road DAILY. Check the house right across from this accident and you will see another wall smashed a month or two ago. HELLO?!?!?! If NRA does not act, who does, who else can we complain to on this matter? Any other country there would be a lawsuit or at least an investigation or some sort of repremandment. AGAIN I am not taking away that this individual was drinking but this is bigger than this accident and the state of the roads contribute as it is already unsafe for sober drivers with regular ware and tare cars imagine how dangerous it is in instances like these!

    Coincidentally coming through Patricks Island entrance all the way through those roads you have speed bumps and cant find a kid in sight, Is it a difference in residents or people?

    • Anonymous says:

      I drive down this road every day and as long as you keep to the speed limits it is perfectly save, yes it could do with repaving but it is not a danger to law abiding drivers.

  7. Anonymous says:

    i live prospect and i heard the burnouts and racing and figured it wouldn't end happily

  8. As I see it says:

    Roads do not kill people- neither do cars- same for guns- they do not kill people- its people that kill people- and I could perhaps take it a bit further and say that its actually the bullet or projectile that inflicts the mortal injury.

    When a person believes that he/she is in control of things- having not fully understand or appreciatiate the fact that their body is being influenced negatively every second by the intoxicants- as they will consciously or subconsciously commit these irresponsible acts such as drinking and driving- and ultimately crashing or having near misses. Those of us who may have drank alcohol at some point in our lives know all too well the symptoms of alcohol consumption- such as poor judgment, impaired vision- to the extent that everything we look at seems beautiful, and the list goes on.

    In my humble opinion it’s the attitude and bad driving habits of the person/s behind the wheel. It’s impossible for Police officers to be here- there and everywhere. 03:45in the morning? most of us were in our beds or someone else's at that time- I am not suggesting that there is anything wrong with a person being out of their residence at that hour of the morning or at any time for that matter- but when we do- do we really need to be out driving on the road after having rendered ourselves to the point that we are incapable of making conscious decisions and risking it all?

    It’s about time that the blame is placed squarely on the shoulders of the irresponsible driver who adds daily to the statistics of bad driving here in Cayman- and not so much on the hard working men and women who I suspect works under stressful situations to keep us all safe.

    Has anyone ever took the time to view the traffic courts list to see how many persons appears in court on various traffic related offences on a daily basis? The amounts are staggering! People are getting caught by the police- and fishermen will tell you- not every time they go fishing they will be successful in the amount or the type of fish they want. Fish are smart- and so is people- they will be evasive at times but unfortunately time runs out on them, and what happens? They get caught. End of story.

    My sincere condolences to the family

     

  9. Anonymous says:

    i read that many people have complained about that dangerous piece of road? im sorry but i have yet to come across a dangerous piece of road in cayman. all i even meet are dangerous drivers.

    • Anonymous says:

      Cayman had dangerous roads in the 60's and 70's, today Cayman have some of the best roads in the Western hemisphere.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Speed humps! Driving Licence applications! You can’t be serious. When are we going to address the cultural acceptance of DUI ? How many people have to die before people realise it is unacceptable to drive whilst intoxicated.

    • Richard Wadd says:

      Certainly a valid point. 

      However, DUI can be addressed through more thorough Driver Education. In many countries young drivers are VISUALLY taught about the Horrors of Motor Vehicle Accidents caused by DUI  and Careless driving through exposure to the very Graphic carnage that it wreaks on the human body.

      When we try to 'shelter' people from the possible consequences of their actions, they find it very hard to associate 'Cause and Effect'.

      Case in point. I remember being told a few years ago that 'we' wouldn't be allowed to display the Mangled Wreckage of a car for the annual Purple Ribbon drive, because it would "offend and upset people".

      I thought thatwas the whole point?

      If you want to make people sit-up and think, SHOCK the hell out of them !

       

      • Anonymous says:

        It might be fun to you, but it's gross and insensitive to showcase the horrors for those that have lost someone (like myself).  What would really be shocking is if the Purple Ribbon people and RCIPS did more than just an annual well-broadcast campaign on the roads, or actually ventured into the schools and taught kids over 14 about the consequences of bad decisions. 

  11. Anonymous says:

    Why is it that it is the police's fault every time someone dies on the road?  As soon as the police prosecutes someone there is a big outcry about it; don't prosecute me for using my cell phone while driving, don't prosecute me for Driving whilst intoxicated; don't hold me responsible for my actions because the police charged me without Legal Dept saying yes to do so.  But when there is an accident, everyone wants to blame the police – they didn't do this and they didn't dothat.  Well you know what, it is a very sad fact, but those serious accidents were caused because someone CHOSE to DISOBEY the LAW.  It was their choice to drive while intoxicated; it was their choice to speed!  The speed limit signs are posted, the dangers of breaking the laws are publicised and people still blame the police for their or their friends own bad choices.  I'll bet you their friends and family knew they were habitual speeders and habitually drove while intoxicated and I'll bet you they never once called them police on them.  Everyone feels bad when someone loses their life in accidents, but people need to take responsibility for their own actions.  And no, I am not a policeman.

    • Anonymous says:

      16:53, I agree with every word you have said.  I am not a cop, but I am an ex cop. and I still think like one.

      People need to stop blaiming the Police for things their kids dp. KEEP THEM AT HOME and teach them to do the right things,  What these children do are the parents fault, whether they like it or not.

      Last but not least> WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, PARENTS"  STOP DRESSING UP YOUR CHILDREN LIKE THE DEVIL AND CELEBRATING OCTOBER 30TH.  iF SOME OF YOU WOULD TAKE TEH TIME TO GO ON THE INTERNET AND READ WHAT hallowene means you would not celebrate it.

      • Front of the Judean People says:

        Speak for yourself..I know PLENTY of former RCIPS officers and I dont' know of any one of them who thinks the police service is being run in a well organised, disciplined and efficient manner..and STOP Blaming Halloween for drinking and driving..it's like blaming Thanksgiving for burglary…

  12. Richard Wadd says:

      Once again, speed-bumps and the like are 'Band-aid' measures that fail to address the disease that is affecting road users in this country. I am NOT saying that the following is the cause of this or all road tragedies, but it is most certainly the cause of MOST road traffic violations. Just ask any (ex) traffic Cop on the island. 

     There has been outright negligence on the part of BOTH the DMVL and the Police.

      For years, the DMVL has been issuing Drivers Licenses to individuals who lack both the necessary Skills and Knowledge to qualify for such. This has been observed by both myself and several other persons that I know first-hand.

     No individual, especially a first-time DL applicant, should be allowed to retake the Driving Test/s, neither the Theory nor the Road-Test, more than once on the same day. In fact, an appropriate period of time (normally several weeks in most countries), should be mandatory to allow sufficient Study and UNDERSTANDING before persons are awarded another opportunity to re-take these Exams. 

      Holding a DL is a Privalidge that needs to be EARNED by proving that one is both a qualified and competent vehicle opperator and road user.

     IT IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

      This NEEDS to be applied to ALL persons both applying for and renewing a Cayman Drivers' License, regardless of where they are comming from, or how long they have had thier License. This is simply because Road Rules can vary from country to country, and people tend to forget what they don't practice on a regular basis.

      Also, in some countries (like Jamaica), the DL system is so corrupt, that MANY people mearly 'Pay' for their DL without ever having to prove their knowledge or ability. 

     The POLICE on the other hand are BLATANTLY NEGLIGENT in enforcing and prosecuting road offenders, to the level that it is a massive joke.

      I see many vehicles with expired cupons on the road DAILY. 

      Defective vehicles, especially those 'Lowered' so that the suspension becomes dangerously out of correct alignment are far too common and visible.

      Obscured / Covered license plates ARE an offence.

      Vehicles driving with the spare Donut on the front are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS,     especially at speed andon wet roads.

     Impossibly dark-tinted windows and even windshield on some cars and trucks, including some that are massively obscured.

      Coloured lights (green, blue, purple, etc.) AND headlights are still all too common.

      Persons driving (or sometimes parked on the road) with their High-beams and / or Fog-lights on dazzelling oncomming drivers, many who REFUSE to dip their lights when requested to do so.

       Unsecured children moving about inside vehicles while they are being driven, as well as small children in the front passenger seat. 

      Bus drivers that stop any and everywhere (especially in the middle of the road, on corners and even round-a-bouts) regardless of their proximity to a Bus-stop.

     Furthermore, one often can see Cops that drive around:

     chatting on cell phones.

     using the emergency lights without the siren.

     using the emergency lights as a tool to speed and/or avoid being caught-up in traffic. (Yes, this is also an almost daily observation).

     not wearing seatbelts.

      One only has to position themselves at three (3) stratigic points on this island to be able to observe almost every motor vehicle on our roads.If I can do it, so can the Police.

      

    • Anonymous says:

      I can’t disagree with this. Really, EVERY TIME I drive I see drivers flouting the law, whether it be speeding, mad lane-switching, failing to indicate (what IS it with that? Are they really too proud to indicate? Why?), tinted windows, numberplate covers making the plates illegible, blue lights, worn tires (especially on trucks), faulty lights, etc, etc: the list goes on and on. And I think “if I can see this, why can’t the police?”

      Seriously, police, just sit beside the Hurleys stretch of Shamrock Road and watch the scofflaws roar by. You should be ashamed of yourselves: do something, for God’s sake!

      • Anon says:

        So true.

        Give me a book of tickets, and I will come back with 50 citations on my drive to work on any given day. I could get another dozen in the staff parking lot for over-tint and obscured plates. If you pay me a few more bucks, I could get the same in DUI’s coming home from the grocery store any night after 7:00.

        It is not safe for responsible drivers on our roads. Sad for this person’s family, sad for his passenger, and sad for every safe driver who ventures onto our lawless roads.

        • Anonymous says:

          I counted 10 cars that didn't have their headlights on at 7pm, and this is just on the bypass alone.

      • Anonymous says:

        18.46 The traffic police are responsible for angering  the majority of responsible drivers by accepting the permanent  two-fingers from these scofflaws, who are everywhere. I can only draw two conclusions: either the traffic police are blind, which seems statistically unlikely, or they don't care a flying fruitcake, which means they're not doing their job and should be fired.

         

        I never imagined I would ever complain about the police being too lenient on the roads; we all appreciate like a bit of leeway, but this island has allowed things to get to the point where if  I were to don  a mask with eye slits, paint over my plates, blacken my windows and keep my blue headlights on full beam while speeding on lowered suspension, I'd remain a lonely person if my sole aim was to meet a traffic cop.

  13. SS says:

    RIP E.R YOU ARE SO LOVED AND WILL BE MISSED DEARLY. I WILL NEVER FORGET YOU.

     

    *SS*

  14. Anonymous says:

    Such a tragedy.

    Perhaps now the NRA will install speed humps on these roads (Mahogany and Marina drive are dagerous as well).

     

  15. Anonymous says:

    It is sad that Cayman suffered another serious one car accident

    But what is more disheartening that the police to do not arrest more people for driving through red lights and passing in the turning lanes. No doubt it is because they are harder to catch.

    The police seem to prefer to harass our citizens using sneaky radar traps, and now arrests of cell phone users. Both good revenue raisers.

    How many auto accidents have been blamed on drivers using cell phones?

    This new law seems to be more of a revenue raiser, another way to harass citizens, and a mindless following of onother countries. Did anyone in Government look at the statistics before jumping on this law?  And is anyone looking at how many accidents are being prevented by it?

    What certainly has been accomplished is more revenue for Government, and nore harassment of its citizens

     

    • Anonymous says:

      With you that the police should do more enforcement. Against you for being critical of them for what they do.

    • Anonymous says:

      Nah, there's no connection between cell phones and accidents – you're right.  Maybe we ought to make you Traffic Director.  We could surely use one more misinformed and overly paid Civil Servant to further drag this country into the hellhole that it's turning into…  $150,000 sound fair?