C4C reveals committee
(CNS): The recently launched political group that insists it is not a party has revealed the names of its executive committee, which will be tasked with selecting candidates for next May’s general election and shaping the public advocacy group. The Coalition for Cayman stated that anyone who declares as a candidate or campaigns to elect a political candidate will not be allowed on the executive committee, which means those with political ambitions that have been appointed to lead the new group will need to step down before they run for office.
The C4C has come in for significant public criticism since its launch last month because of the ambiguity of its definition as well as its attack on the concept of party politics rather than the politicians. It described itself in the latest press release as a public awareness and advocacy group.
In the short release the C4C announced that James Bergstrom and Jude Scott would be co-chairs of the group, while Kris Bergstrom, Clarence Bothwell, JC Calhoun, Jacqueline Haynes, Randy Merren, Johann Moxam, Gary Rutty and Emmiel Scott would serve as committee members.
“The Executive Committee will be responsible for setting and managing the organizational structure of Coalition for Cayman, and also for creating bylaws that will protect the purpose and integrity of the group,” the group stated in the release.
“No individual who has declared as a political candidate or is a sitting MLA or is actively involved in a political campaign to elect a political candidate may be on the executive committee or serve as the chairperson of a subcommittee or working group,” it said. Should a member of the executive committee or a chairperson of a subcommittee or working group declare as a candidate, that person will no longer serve on that committee. However, C4C said they may continue to be a member of the Coalition and serve on sub-committees and working groups.
Political campaign activities will not be permitted at Coalition for Cayman sub-committee or working group meetings, C4C said.
“Our purpose is to unite our country, provide a forum for your voice and ideas to be heard, and to elect independent leaders with integrity who will always put the country first,” said Jude Scott, co-chair of Coalition for Cayman. “Putting the country first is best accomplished by engaging all the great and diverse minds in our country to focus on real solutions and real leadership to get our country back on a healthy, sustainable course.”
It has still not been made clear if the coalition will fully fund candidates it endorses or how it will be defined under the elections law in terms of political parties. The group has not stated whether candidates will be asked to promote specific policies or how the candidates will be endorsed by the group. Questions about how C4C will guarantee the integrity of its endorsed candidates has also not been fully explained.
While there is widespread support in the community for an alternative to the incumbent UDP government and the previous PPM administration, it remains to beseen if, given the mixed public response, C4C will emerge as the group that will satisfy the disaffection with the status quo among the growing number of voters expected to be registered to vote in the May 2013 election.
Category: Politics
Puppetmasters …these jokers won't stoop to run themselves but want to finance/control the small boy$$$ who in turn protect their interest$$$
Where is Billy Reed? I know he is a founding member of C4C. Why isn't he on the executive committee? He did such a good job of steering the UDP over the years, surely he would be a valuable asset to the executive team.
Hmmm, you "know he is a founding member of C4C" Reeeeeeally.
that is laughable! Sorry, continue on with your story, it is a good one!
Nice deflection. Everyone knows Mr. Billy is a part of this group. Peanut was bragging about it to anyone that would listen when he was calling all his buddies for support. Now that the heat is on, C4C is trying to downplay the UDP connections so of course you are embarrassed to admit Mr. Billy is involved.
ya know something, do what i do, if i have an issue or a question i go to the source. contact Billy or Gary, or any of the rest of the board members, or supporters for that matter and get the truth.
Crap like this will discredit you at the end of the day.
More idle gossip. Mr Billy Reid is not a founding member of c4c. If he decides to supportthe initiative or attend public meetings which any citizen is encouraged to do that is his right as a citizen of these islands. Please get your facts straight or at least stop believing everything you are told by your comrades in either party.
Brewking News: C4C has considered changing its name to: "TIP" The Indepentant Party. a source within says we decided to come clean and annonce our true intentions.
Is 'TIP' going to be short for 'TIP4UDP'?
Wow party people sure got alot of haterade for C4C – NONE of the politicians want accountability!
they hate being asked questions by the public and the press!
So C4C is not a party it is a collection of in dependent candidates.
I guess they realize that running for either party will be a curse wordcome next election. So the popular thing to say is that you are independent.
Still gentlemen if it qucks like a duck guess what it must be a duck.
A fail to see its purpose other than to say it is a party of independent candidates.
Which is a oxymoron or somethin g like it.
Do you care as long as you get better representation, and a better life?
Has anyone ever heard any of those listed as the governing body of the C4C "EVER" say anything critical of the way Mr. Bush has conducted himself recently? I don't recall any of them publicly deploring his conduct, but they want us to believe they are suddenly our SAVIORS. Don't buy it! My feeling is that they are all supporters of the Bush Regime and like the last election they will do whatever it takes to get him back in, because Mac is all about big business. Just remember these are mostly if not all "millionaires" and they will not "kill the goose that lays the golden eggs". So if they "ARE FOR CAYMAN" as they say, then please let us know what are your intentions politically. Give us a plan!
Remember when PPM first started, they were adamant too that they were not a party…they were a Movement. Now they are a party just like UDP. Watch for "Coalition" C4C to declare party status in the near future
Rubbish. The PPM was always a party, has always said so and has always operated like one. Just because "party" does not appear in your name does not mean that you are not a party.
c4c makes the ppm look good!
They are the ones get us in the mess we are in. Mr.Prem sponsors.
If you posters were not so cynical about everything, then they would not be afraid to admit that they are really another political party…
If people weren’t so cynical they would stop insisting C4C is a party
Hey Jude,
A serious question for C4C.
Under your mantra of Country First, what do you think about the support the First Member for Bodden Town has given to a proposed new waste management facility in his own district? Seems to me he is taking a very brave national position on a vary difficult issue that has been kicked down the road for almost 2 decades, And he is taking it at great risk politically.
Is this the kind of "Country First" decision making that the C4C stands for? Yes or No will do.
Thank you.
Your question seems to be based on the assumption that moving the dump to BT in the currently proposed site is putting “Country First”. As politically risky as it may be, the legitimate question still remains, is it putting Country first, or putting the interests of a significant special interest entity ahead of Country? The narrow scope of the environmental impact study terms of reference seems to suggest the latter.
Yes…they will assess and then make correct decision for country not pander to every special interest group no matter who that is. Get it right first time.
The First Member for Bodden Town cannot be praised for anything as he has shown himself completely incapable of independent thought and is simply a Mac puppet.
no one knows what c4c stands for or against………
However credible it's members and as well intentioned as they are, all they will achieve is to split the non UDP vote and let Mac sail back in to plunder what's left of Cayman.
You want to help Cayman…?…Join with PPM to rid us all of corrupt dictatorship.
Ppm wants to help??…then they should step aside and support C4C.
People are sick of both UDP AND PPM. We cannot keep passing the baton between these two and hope to have a country that’s viable ever again. Plus I am sure the polls will show few want PPM and Alden…
Where were these great pearls of wisdom and justice up until, uhhh, what a month or so ago? How come this is the first time that we hear of their concerns – when everyone else with little influnence could do nothing while the Cayman Islands sank further into corruption? Say Wha? You had nutin to sey? Now that it's election time you want to endorse some puppetts who will do your bidding? Umm, yeah. No tank u C$C.
i swear i ave beed hearing the mr. moxam on the radio and tv for much longer than c4c has been talked about. and he is on the board right? he doesnt seem to be the type to play well with others, so being a puppet woud suprise me for sure. but i could be wro ng.
Mr. Moxam has been very clear and consistent in any position he has taken. You know exactly where he stands on any issue. He is not a pushover has always demonstrated independent thinking with a logical pro-Caymanian approach. He is not a UDP supporter so all the comments to that effect are completely false. He asks the difficult questions and wants answers and does it to every politician in every setting either on radio or tv. He is fearless and the type of man who should be in the LA because you know where he stands and fights for Caymanians at all times.
Yes, Mr. Moxam is a equal opportunity critic of both political parties. He is brave to the point of fearless which can quickly move to taking foolish risks in pursuit of ideology. He is almost such an idealist in believing that Government can be good, accountable. That politicians will put country first and make rational decisions. What surprises me is that he would let himself be used by the big wigs in C4C who think themselves better than people like him and will use him then discard him.
Mr. Moxam and Mr. Jude – we need to be able to believe in you – get out of C4C and run on your own. Leave people like Chucky and Mervyn to be Jimmy and Randy's puppets. If you don't intend to run, then stay true as as an advocacy group and don't talk about fielding or endorsing candidates. You two can't sit on the fence. Take a stand for issues, or stop talking about endorsing candidates.
This one is going to be a Whopper! Can’t wait for the spin cycle to kick in. Sorry C4C (sounds like a hip-hop group when it’s written that way), but due to your past affiliations, I’ll pass.
See you at the polls!
Who is using who? This is a list of well healed business people, but none with the political experience of McKeeva. I'm wondering if they don't see that McKeeva is using them, or if they are all in it together. Either way I will not vote for these guys because we will end up with another 4 years of UDP.
Randy Merren and Gary Rutty???!! Give me a break! One cant run a super market, the other one sells burgers!! What a laughing stock!!!
Would you like us to remind you what the Hon. Mckeeva did before he was elected?
And I suppose you see something different when you look at Lucille , Moses , Dwayne , Eugene , Eden, Ellio, etc etc?? Really?? These are business persons that don’t have to step forward in this mess but chose to to correct the mess both parties have created. Thank God.
How you could even dream of lumping Moses into that list befuddles me. The only explanation is that you are a C4C supporter who seems to think that anyone in a party is to be written off for simply being in a party…too bad you can’t see that C4C is exactly that (a party).
Has it occurred to you that it really does not matter if they are a party or not. They have come to clean up the mess that Mackeeva and Alden have created….and we desparately need that!!!
C4C + UDP = 4 more years of UDP. Beware of this transplanted UDP crowd.
Ya all stealing our PPM slogan "Putting Country First" wha una say bout that? PPM will be the next government mark my words, and they will put the country first and back on track, Alden has learned his lesson with spending too much money on the schools, but look at the schools today, PPM did a lot of other good things for this Islands too, and Moses is now our Deputy Leader, with the two of them putting country first, we will see good things happening. Go Alden, Kurt, Anthony, Ossie, Lucille, Wayne, Kenneth, Woody & Al and of course Mose. God Bless you all.
You are right…..please GO!!!
Surely anyone who watched 10 minutes of the last years coverage of the US Presidential election will recognize that C4C is a Political Action Committee, or PAC as it was referred to. PAC's are not parties, they are simply committees formed to push for the election of candidates who espouse the virtues of the committee members..it remains to be seen wether this is a good thing or not..
This is not the same thing, PACs endorse candidates that support their agenda regardless of party. Doesn't matter if they are Republican or Democrat or Independent, if they support the ideals of the PAC, then the PAC supports them. If C$C thinks they are a PAC then they need to come up with an agenda and identify the candidates in UDP, PPM and Independents that support that agenda.
wow, someone gets it! yea
One of the co-chairmans is one of the founding fathers of CIREBA who has ties to the Ritz. No thank you.
One of the announced PPM candidates is a self proclaimed Real Estate agent (and presumably a member of CIREBA) and the Premier owns a Real Estate company. Does the same denunciation apply to them?
One is a lawyer and the other an accountant. Neither is a member of CIREBA or involved in thereal estate industry or ever involved in the Ritz.
Don’t be silly…CIREBA is an organization. Has nothing to do with Ritz. You guys are sure stupid.
Must correct myself. One of the committee members is one of the founding fathers of CIREBA and has ties to Michael Ryan.
Reading the C4C website you will see a collection of clichés and catch-phrases that have forever been a mainstay of Cayman politics. You've heard them all before: "set the country on the right path", "putting Cayman first", "turning things around","a clear vision for the future" – it all sounds great….until you want a specific policy or plan of action. These are the things that every potential politician in Cayman says, and they seem to lack any notion of how they are going to achieve anything.
What exactly is the point of the C4C?, does anyone have a clear, sensible (catch-phrase free) answer? They seem to be saying that they will endorse specific candidates who "put the country first" (surprise! there it is again!). A committee, representing a group deciding which candidate to endorse? I think I can decide who to vote for myself without having to rely on a party (or team or coalition or movement or whatever) to tell me. The C4C seems to have invented a political party that is against political parties…….
These guys can't even decide on a Leader….CO-CHAIRS….Give me a break…are we going to have Co-Premiers under a C4C administration? C4C you think we are all stupid becuase we dont have your fancy college degrees?
Please let us not be so quick and eager to condemn and disgrace these people, Cayman. We have until next May to see what they are all about and can make intelligent decisions based on fact at that point. God Almighty knows we cannot possibly do much worse than we have at present.
Believe me it can always get worst. You would be suprised, there are worse evils yet…
I very sincerely hope you're not suggesting that we could possibly have three police investigations on our next premier ongoing for three years, or that it will take nothing less than the United Kingdom to prevent several of his incredibly misconcieved brainchilds from becoming reality to the absolute detriment of our country and our people?
We could have the same Premier with another two police investigations added to the previous three, and he would still be gallivanting the world on our money.
Wouldn't that be worse?
Sorry, yes that would be worse.
You are correct.. We could have UDP OR PPM BACK!!!
Since there is a concern that the executive of this “coalition” must be independent of external influence, will Jimmy (sorry! Jaimes) and Jude be stepping away from their seniour positions in Ogier and Maples respectively? Because if you think it’s bad now, make either of those entities obtain direct political influence and see what you get. Imagine what they could achieve without having to bribe big Mac with scholarships, etc.
IF the objective of C4C is to unite the country, then why have they from the very offset excluded persons by saying:
“No individual who has declared as a political candidate or is a sitting MLA or is actively involved in a political campaign to elect a political candidate may be on the executive committee or serve as the chairperson of a subcommittee or working group,”
Give me a break, NO ONE is excluded! Quite simply, if any member of the Executive desires to become a potical candidate, he/she must step down from their leadership role in C4C. It is that simple.
Jude is no longer at Maples
Jude has already stepped away from his serior position at Maples.
Jude resigned his position at Maples some months ago.
Does anyone know why?
He retired.
There can be no other purpose for this group than to split the non-UDP vote, thereby giving UDP+C4C the election in 2013. They are keeping the hard core UDPers in the background, including but not limited to the ex-Chairman of the party. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mac himself thought this one up. It’s a brilliant UDP strategy given their current unpopularity.
no other purpose? really?! perhaps they are sick of the status quo and are trying to make a change? tell me what do a group of people that want to change things for the better look like? I think C4C is the closest thing out there at the moment….
If this group was new to Politics I might agree with you, however this is a disgruntled bunch of former UDP manipulators that were partly responsible for putting Mac in charge of our Country. There are plenty of us out there that want to change things for the better, but this particular group is after the power they lost when they lost control of Mac. They know they can’t buy Alden so they are forced to find someone they can control. While I would like to think they will eventually side with PPM, the biggest worry is that they are already very familiar with the inner workings of the UDP so they are going to be talking to them as we’ll.
It should have read “There can be no other outcome ….”.
I love it the entire committee assisted Mckeeva (XXXXX) in the past and now they can't get what they want so they try their hand at influencing the democratic process so a new set of puppets can give them the the government policy they wish to have – nothing wrong with that I suppose but one thing it demonstrates is that they lack integrity they say the country needs. Not really the type of people I want telling me which candidates possess such a quality.
07:22 the 2013 Politics is only about one thing, taking Bush out the house; but I do not believe that will happen. Cayman need Bush to continue with some unfinished projects. Will someone tell me what can a bunch of new heads do about fixing the things we are faced with. I believe we need to leave the house as it is now.
Unfinished projects?? Really?? He has taken 4 years and has not even got one of these STARTED!! Docks, oil refineries, digging up north sound , sewage, dump, etc etc.
Just be aware that when C4C splits the vote and we end up right back where we are you will have them to thank. Maybe that is their goal anyway. BEWARE
Whoa good thing they held that back. I don’t honk I could have taken all that information at once!
What will they release next ? New jerk chicken recipes?
Bring in the special interest lobby groups!
I am forming Bob Kappa Marley and we will support any candidate who promotes Rastafarianism.
Whose coming with me ? C’mon whose comin with me ?
How false you sound – 'Rastafarianism'..?
An excellent candidate for Cayman Brac. I dont understand what the hec Cayman Brac has to suffer for when we have so many bright students. Go for it Jude in the Brac you will be a WINNER.
We don't want a big money candidate that only returns to win an election. We know who has been here for year after year after year helping us!
Mr. Scott needs to come live with us for a few years and show us he cares about us, when we see him round the Brac and part of the community for a few years then we'll know what he's really all about. Miss Julie and Mr. Mose have proven themselves!
You must be kidding Jude a winner in the Brac ha ha ha
I am for giving C4C the benefit of the doubt and wish them well in their efforts to improve the political landscape in Cayman.
More common sense in its Exec Committee than the entire slate of UDP mlas and the Premier.
These people are educated,qualified Caymanian professionals. If it comes to wanting sensible leadership, I still have to give C4C the edge.
Isn’t this what we said we wanted: for the real qualified, educated Caymanian professionals to step up?
So why all the hating? I’d follow their advice over the Premiers uneducated idiocy.
Anything is better than we got now. These are educated Caymanian professionals…lets give them a chance… You voted less qualified people for mla just cuz they went Sunday School with you, so it can’t be that hard to support your Caymanian professionals?
Why unna so afraid if educated people with actual sense? If they can’t help Cayman, we done — these are some of our best and brightest… Give them a chance, the same chance we gave each of the parties.
Go C4C
NO we afraid we wasting our votes to give the Premiership back to Dr Mac
Not wasting votes? You assume that all of the “non-UDP” votes must go to PPM, or that all of the the PPM candidates are even electable or desirable for that matter. Shear arrogance! But then again, what do you expect…
Caymanians will have nothing to do with a fellow educated Caymanian.
Seems to me the problem is those who work for government are not at all happy that this group is comprised of private sector people and that perhaps for once the private sector won’t take all the hits if they should put forth candidates that will cease to pander only to what civil service wants. It means that the other voting half of this country that works in private sector busily supporting the other half of the voting public might actually get fair representation and a level playing field. What a bold concept but scary if you are government workers! Sorry but I am with them bring on those who have driven income to this country and produced it and the more successful they are in business the better, that means they know how to read a P&L and a balance sheet and stick to budgets and that is a HUGE improvement!
"executive committee, which will be tasked with selecting candidates for next May’s general election and shaping the public advocacy group"……………..sure sounds like a PARTY to me
So who would you suggest make the final call as to who does or does not get an endorsement?
Seriously I simply can not believe Cayman is so full of negativity and pessimism. This really shows how ignorant some of ya’ll really are, the concept and format that C4C is using is nothing new in other countries, hell, back home the government actually helps fund them because they have measurable benefits that cost much more when governments perform the same tasks.
Wizen up Cayman, you are looking a gift horse in the mouth!
C4C or See Fussy?
Well this is clear as mud!
I am surprised that Jude Scott and Johann Moxam will not be candidates for the 2013 general elections, if I am reading this article correctly. What I am sure of is that people like Austin Harris, Eddie Thompson, Paul Rivers, Mervin Smith, Derrington “Bo” Miller, Kent McTaggart, though they mean well and would likely be good legislators, are just not electable. Even Roy McTaggart, should we be fortunate enough for him to offer his services to this country as a Legislator, will not feature higher up than a third or fourth elected member for the electoral district of George Town.
My advice to C4C, is to register as a political party, adopt a constitution with ethical standards of conduct for the candidates to abide by and run 18 candidates including 2 in Cayman Brac. You are already a political party in spirit and formation, jus make it legal. From the little hole that I live in, I see political parties here to stay, unless someone decides to change the 2009 constituion.
“Putting the Country First is best accomplished by engaging all the great and diverse minds in our Country to focus on real solutions and real leadership to get our Country back on a healthy, sustainable course.”
B4 (like that C4C?) you can focus on real solutions you have to identify the problems. I don't want to get off on a rant here, but C4C might be one of the problems….
C4C is quite an interesting group, a very educated and successful group of Caymanians all with proven track records in their field of expertise. This group gives me hope for the future if the candidates that they support are as committed to the continued success of these islands. I am very pleased that the executive committee of C4C are made up of citizens who are all aware of the days of law and when prosperity was in order for Cayman and all Caymanians. As a voter since 1980 I am most grateful to have an alternative to party politics and corrupt politicians. I remember the good ole days of politics in the 1980s when political favours, handouts, and giveaways were not the order of the day, rather it was all about moving the country and its people forward.
If Kris Bergstrom is in, then I would support it.
Kris is nice and all but how exactly is an airline pilot and part-time builder qualified to sail the ship of state?
You are abosuletly right, I'll go with the Gardener.
We have had worse!
Perhaps you would like to enlighten us all as to how you do become "qualified" to run a country? Last I saw there were precious few courses available. The role models of previous politicians also don't give them much to go on.
Perhaps their experiences in business is better grounding than you give credit for? After all most of them have been successful in their chosen fields. Perhaps that success comes down to them being hard working, and possessing some integrity?
Or maybe you consider our grade-school drop out with his free doctorate better qualified?
Cuz he has the sense to KNOW his limitations and gets proper advice from other people with experience and qualifications !
He's honest.
Airline pilots MUST have a sense of direction, which is certainly more than we can say for our current 'leader', and being only a part time builder perhaps Kris won't take his nation building quite so seriously.
It is essential that the next Goverment will implement measures to lower cost of living and lower cost of doing buinsess for every investor, big or small. I don’t understand why large invester are given incentives with building cost and operational incentives, the likes of huge breaks in work permit fees and import tax exemptions whilst the smaller operations have to pay the countries bills to stay afloat! This is a gross misconduct and unfair advantage to large operations conducting buisness within the cayman islands.
Education has to be addressed in every shape and form, each and every child deserves a chance to get the best possible education one can imagine, children deservethe right to compete in the job market.
Trade schools are mandatory and need to be implemented by Goverment.
Future and present children deserve and should demand a quality education / trade school for the children to compete in an ever more demanding job market within the island .
It is time to wake up cayman and ask your elected members of Goverment to work for you, you put them in Goverment and they have to be accountable for their decisions, these decisions you will have to pay for in the future!
"…I don't understand why large invester are given incentives with building cost and operational incentives, the likes of huge breaks in work permit fees and import tax exemptions whilst the smaller operations have to pay the countries bills to stay afloat!…"
The answer to your questions is simple: large companies can pay large "community enhancement fees" (aka kickbacks and bribes) while small companies can afford only small "community enhancement fees".
Follow the money.
Our purpose is to unite our country, provide a forum for your voice and ideas to be heard, and to elect independent leaders with integrity who will always put the Country First, Putting the Country First is best accomplished by engaging all the great and diverse minds in our Country to focus on real solutions and real leadership to get our Country back on a healthy, sustainable course.
Peanut, you know better than this. So…. none of us were putting the country first before? What an insult.
Good luck in continuing to insult your fellow Caymanians on the basis that you and your group believe a few people are corrupt. This will be downfall of the C4C in insulting your people.
This is all BS Mr Nuts…..where has C4C been the last 4 years??? facilitating and defending the UDP agenda. I will stick with the PPM and the the two from the East.
That is a direct quote from their statement, I put it out as many do not read the entire post.
again more questions than answers…… this group is destined for failure when its foundation is based on a litany of banal cliches….
i'd have more respect for them if they were honest enough to call themselves what they are….i.e… a party!
This reads like a bad dream.
Clarence Bothwell & Jacqueline Hayes, get out before its too late and your names are forever soiled!
Please take a close look at the members of the C4C executive committee & you will understand exactly what they are about, who they represent, & what their agenda is. Does "angry ex-UDP" ring a bell? Does self interest ring a bell?
If they had an ad, this is what it would say: Attention good people of the Cayman Islands: Power-hungry, Self-serving, Influence-seeking brokers looking to endorse candidates who will dance when we say dance and sit when we say sit – honest people need not apply!
Dance and sit when told to – so basically the same situation as the governing party today, but replacing one man with a committee?
Yup, that's exactly what I meant.
“Excecutive Committe” so don’t the Parties have a similar structure. I am sorry C4C but if you can’t be honest about yourselves at this stage how can we trust you to run the country?
I support the stated goals of C4C, but what makes it different than a special interest lobby? As I understand it, they will put support behind qualified, independent candidates.
I believe that our country is too young and too small for the two-party system; it fosters devisiveness. I would love to see our politicians put their time into works that are best for the nation, and spend zero time on cross-party politics.
If C4C wants to take us to a no-party system, then I support that, however if that is so, I think it should've been done months or years ago, and we are too close to the elections to make such a substantial change.
My concern is that they will end up splitting the vote, and (God Forbid) we end up with the same ol' same ol' as we suffered through for the last 3+ years.
You are right Zeno, that’s what will happen.
Watch, by May next year C4C will cut a major deal and it will be what will propel the PPM to the next ruling Government. Plain and simple, you saw it here first.
We can only hope, otherwise they will cut a deal with their former Party, the UDP, and we will all be screwed.
Crystal Ball your reading is wrong. You mean UDP.