Man mugged at gunpoint
(CNS): A man was robbed at gunpoint around 3:10 this morning as he arrived at his home on Bougainvillea Way, Savannah. A report from the RCIPS states that as he left his vehicle and approached his front door he was suddenly confronted by two masked men, one of whom was in possession of what appeared to be a handgun and the other a wrench. The suspects threatened the man and then ran off from the scene with a small quantity of cash and a ring. No shots were fired and no-one was injured. The suspects were both wearing hoodies and had their faces covered by cloth, police said. One of the men was described as being 6-foot tall and both spoke with Caymanian accents. No further descriptions are available at this time.
Anyone who was in the area at the relevant time is asked to contact Bodden Town police station on 947-2220, the RCIPS tip-line 949-7777, or Crime Stoppers on 800-8477 (TIPS).
Category: Crime
Nothing – and I mean absolutely nothing – good happens at 3:10 AM.
And unless the thieving and home invasions are solved shortly, RCIPS is going to find vigil-antes coming into being to protect property which RCIPS seem incapable of doing. People will get fed up with it and do something, it happens in other places. No-one sensible wants that to happen because there is a real danger with vigilantes, they often take the law into their own hands. However, in the absence of some serious results and crackdown by RCIPs it is coming, as sure as hurricane season does every year..
Comments saying young ladies should not be out late at night are ridiculous! Getting home after a late night is not asking to be attacked.
No kdding, we really need to stop blaming the victim.
Absolutely, and if we had a reduced bus service to all districts that ran late into the night weekdays and early hours Sat/Sun morning, we'd have a lot less females on the streets at night, a lot less drunks behind steering wheels, and a few more jobs for bus drivers – some of the drivers now already run ridiculously long hours – better to have a 2 shift system and limit the hours they can drive without a break.
Folks A.L Thompson has good prices on cutlasses. I bought three over the weekend and one with a double edge!
Remember when a report is of a "Caymanian accent", according to previous CNS threads:
1. It is probably being reported by a furreinger who would not be able to tell a Caymanian accent.
2. Otherwise it is probably a case of Jamaicans who cunningly speak in Caymanian accents to throw the police off the scent.
According to this view of the world, the only thing you know when a crime is attributed to someone with a Caymanian accent is that it is almost certain they are not Caymanian.
I think the point is that having such an accent is not conclusive. The same was said many times about suspects speaking with Jamaican accents.
I think the point in this case is the victim was Caymanian and able to accurately identity a Caymanian accent. In other cases you certainly do have a point.
Or it could be a caymanian.
I can assure you that the victim of this crime is very much Caymanian and I would also trust his account regarding Caymanian accents, because I know him very well. I’ve heard his account of the incident and giving the circumstances he described to me, I applaud him for remaining calm and for thinking clearly throughout the incident… I however, call upon the government to take whatever actions are necessary to allow residents who wish to be lawfully armed, for the purposes of personal protection by means of various arms, including private owned firearms, to do so immideately.
Yes, then we would have more dead victims of mugging, more people killed as a result of domestic violence, higher rates of gun crime. All sounds a great idea.
Learn to spell before you make posts.
It most certainly was a caymanian
Where is the mis-spelling? I think the technical term in the context was "furreigner" and you, sir, need to learn to identify sarcasm when you read it.
I heard a few Welsh lads in a bar the other day practising their Caymanian accents. They must be planning another job.
This should be a wake up call for the government to get serious with tackling the unemployment issue. By no means am I saying that this justifies people robbing and mugging but lets face it- more than likely it is a contributory factor. The NWDA (or whatever they are called) is just about as useless as chicken wings on a cat. I went in there about 3 months ago to assist my nephew and one would swear that they were taking applications for a vacancy in the US Secret Service. In addition, there was NOT ONE BORN Caymanian that I could recognize. There was an American guy, a Spanish guy, couple employees who appeared to be Jamaicans and another from only the good Lord knows where. Is this really what persons seeking jobs want to face? Is this really necessary to find work for expats in the CS while Caymanians roam the street begging for work. I have recently been told that the new Manager of this celestial office is an HR Professional who couldn't hold a job in the private sector yet our good ole government can hire her to continue to
promote her inability. All I can say and I truly hope that I am wrong is that we haven't seen anything yet. It's time to get CAYMANIANS employed and those that aren't employable, get them trained up. This is but one of many ways that we can make an impact on the robberies/muggings as it is evident that there is possibly some correlation. CNS please forgive me as my comments are a little off your subject, however I think I have explained why I chose to make these remarks under this heading.
This is not an unemployment issue, it is lazy, greedy, criminal issue. Lock more of them up for much longer.
Your comments are very relevant and correct. This is the sad reality that what you have written is exactly what obtains in society today.
Unemployment does NOT cause this type of crime. Lazy, entitled drug addled youths cause it.
How do you train up unemployable Caymanians bobo @ 23:27? Many of them are dead wood. Start with the Coe Wood beach in Bodden Town that is a disgrace. What are you going to get them to do? They sit there day in day out and do not want to do jackshit. Except for the girl that we all know, who provides ( and has done for 15 years and the BT cops know it) services that are not on the official list of the department of ESO statistics. i would love you to approach these jerks under the Cabanas and try to get them to work! They would tell you they cant get a job because the foreigners take them all and then they would laugh and take another pull from the beer they got from Ozzie's liquor store. "Caymanians roam the streets begging for work"??? For Jesus' Christ's sake!!
As an expat living in BTwhilst you raise some valid points, I think your view is extreme to say the least. Whilst admittedly some of the folk who hang out at Coe Wood are unlikely to want work and would rather sit there and get drunk or stoned, some of them, as you well know are retired old men who have done nothing but work hard for most of their lives with little left to show for it. As for the youngsters, some of them are lazy and might say foreigners are taking their jobs, but not all of them. I know several of the young men who hang out there. Whilst they might be unskilled they are not all lazy good-for-nothings as you state, and some of them I, and other people in our district employ to do work around our yards. The boys work hard for their money when they do this, and always do a good job. Same boys I have seen looking for work when construction jobs are available, and I've even provided references attesting to their hard work.
I would also add that the same boys, and the old men too, are very approachable and friendly whenever I stop by the beach. The old men often tell me tales about the days of old, and the youngsters joke and tease with them. I have spent some very enjoyable afternoons with these folks on a weekend, and posts like yours simply cast the aspersion that Coe Wood Beach is a no-go area for all, when that absolutely is not the case.
In all fairness, whilst there is a problem along the lines that you state, its nowhere near as bad as you are making out. There is a lady in BT who is very vocal about the district complaining about the guys who hang at the beach and you have me wondering if you are her. XXXX
Please be reasonable.
Entitlement caused this, not unemployment!
ok, so that covers Bodden Town.
So how do we employ the guys that roll around on the pavement on Mary Street shouting at themselves and the endless beggars that hang around the Courts area?
Do we give them a chance and slide them straight in as CEO's somewhere or maybe it would be more discrete if they were given jobs in the Legislative Assembly?
That is before we have even reached West Bay!
For real these guys are pretty bad. Some don't just shout at themselves they shout and curse at passers by too. Bet the tourists and people working in GT ''love'them… not!!! Some of them have jobs and beg too… a second job I guess!
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Next stop you could come by next door to Kurt Korner in North Side where many others need work…or should I say want pay without work. Did I forget that Mr. Ezzard Miller will sort the welcome committee of North Side. I hear you can get what you want there as well!
I understand your point but these people who are doing these crimes do not care for you or me or how hard we workedfor what little we have! So, employment, is not only the issue when these people feel a sense of entitlement with everything. They do not WANT to work, that is a fact! They want to sit around all day idling and wasting time. They want to TAKE what we worked for. I am Caymanian but I do not condone their behaviour nor do I feel "sorry" for them as they are only making it harder for themelves and others. When they get incarcerated for a crime and then hit the streets again after serving time, NO-ONE will want to hire them.
They have no interest in working up the ladder of success, they simply want to be given everything and alot of them have the support of a useless mother or grandmother who will give them no wrong for that they continure to do. Pity? I pity children born into poverty and desease infestation. These punks do not know suffering. So yes I understand your side of the coin but look at the actions of the average home owner today, their attitude has changed, they no longer depend on the RCIPS (unfortunately) they take matters into their own hands, and rightly so. These punks have no moral and values and do not stand for anything so they continue to fall for anything. They will stop at nothing to TAKE what THEY want, WHEN they want it. So, as the 'ol Caymanian saying goes: "ya cant hear, ya feel!"
Unfortunately, the police in the Cayman Islands are so incompetent they couldn't solve a murder if they witnessed it. The answer is to ARM yourselves. Guns are illegal but there are MANY other ways. Google: wasp spray, fireworks, flare guns, pellet guns, etc.
I wouldnt say that. The police are catching a lot of people in the last year.
Podna, anybody can go out and lock up a bunch of ne'er do wells…that is not hard…it's making sure those charges make it to court and stick that is the problem…getting search warrants from half senile JP's and getting gun convictions thrown out of court because the police tampered with evidence is not the way to do it…
Oh Dennie, every lawyer on CNS has told you years ago that this s.18 argument of yours is nonsense, and all that s.18 provides is that certain otherwise lawful discharge of weapons will not be rendered unalwful by reason of their proximity to the highway. s.18 creates no new rights. You do know that and this sort of misleading crap has to stop.
Had you chosen to be honest in your reply, you would have specified which kind of “certain otherwise lawful discharges…” you’re referring to.
When S.18(1) of the Firearms Law says: ” No person shall discharge any firearm on or within forty yards of any public road or in any public place except-,” it means that it is unlawful to discharge that firearm for any reason whatsoever, EXCEPT, EXCEPT, EXCEPT, as specifically expressed in S.18(1)(a), or S.18(1)(b), or S.18(1)(c) of the Firearms Law, respectively.
When S.18(1)(a) reads EXCEPT- “…in the lawful protection of his person or property or of the person or property of some other person,” it means this paragraph is statuary permission to discharge a firearm during acts of personal protection, in accordance with self-defense laws.
Think aboutit!
Gun lovers refuse to see that their selfishness leads to dead school kids.
When or if they're caught, Judges of Cayman, please no petty robbery charge, grow some and stick them in solitary for a very long time.
Remember Baines got four more years…..so there's not going to be any changes to come any time soon. Seems to me the cops prefer to go after seat belts and on the phone whilst driving. These crimes are easy to solve, safe to the cops and means revenue for the chopper. Very sad when law abiding citizens are being robbed whilst out at work to pay CUC and coming home from work to be robbed by CUC.
13.00, it was not so long ago we were complaining about the Police not going after seatbelt and phone users…now they are.
Strikes me that if enough public sentiment could be generated that they might actually start to concentrate a little more on the robbery/theft side.
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!! snif … sniff
Maybe they were getting some ice tea and skittles. Wearing a Hoodie in warm weather has nothing to do with identifying a potential criminal according to many.
Another Zimmerman fan. On 26th February, 2012 in Sanford, Fla. the tempurature ranged from a low of 52 deg F, to a high of 69 deg F. http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/sanford-fl/32771/month/332328?monyr=2/01/2012 Many people would wear a sweater, or a hoodie, in that weather. There is no question that Martin had gone to the store and bought skittles and iced tea. That is on the convenience store CCTV and that is what was found on or around Martin's body.
Dress like a gangster and people may think you have authentic costume. Fan I am not….hero he is.
Cat i support that too because some people especially many of these young ladies out here running about in the wee hours believing this place is so safe and nothing can't happen to them I thought after the Estella Scott case some would wise up and certainly be more careful!
You are so right! I am seeing more and more young ladies staying out partying at night clubs, scantily dressed, boozing and going home in thewee hours of the morning. Not only are they putting themselves at risk for attack or of being robbed but their relatives or others they live with are also at risk! Those unsuspecting souls could be sleeping and these young women could be used to gain entry to the house and everyone could be attacked. Some of these young women, not necessarily ladies (forgive me) are older than 18 and can no longer be controlled by their parents yet they are living in their parents homes. They should have some of the fathers of years ago who would lay down the law and let them know where they get off at.
Please tell me why a certain pharmacy are selling these hoods and men gloves?? With our climate we do not need either of these. The owner of this pharmacy better watch out, they may buy them from his store and wear them to return and rob his store. Totally ridiculous!
Why is the pharmacy selling hoods and men glove? Why do we have CASH FOR GOLD all over the island? Jewellry is the most important item being stolen for quick cash.
They willl eventually meet their match.
Yep! One met his match and got a machette chop in the head! More will get it too, people are fed up of these criminals.
Can CNS please be so kind to tell us if they came from side of his house, or did they run into his yard off the road?
The reason I'm making this request, is to give myself and other readers an idea of how this man was confronted and to assist readers to be alot more mindful of their surroundings when they get out of their cars late at night.
I know that alot of people like placing hedges or large/full growing flowers and plants in their yard because the lanscaping looks beautiful and adds value to your home, but unfortunately these days they've become great hiding places for these low lives to stand behind and wait for you in the darkness.
I would also like to stress that if you know that when you get home it will be dark, please make an effort to have your outside lights on before you do out, even if you are leaving in broad daylight and no one will be home to turn them on. Better yet, invest in the lights that use light sensor and timers where it will only come on at an hour you chose to set it you to come. You're safety is the highest priority, and you are worth every peeny spend to protect your life, home and other property and ensure that your yard it well lit especially at the front door when you walk up to it. Do not create hiding places for these low lives.
I would also encourage people to drive around their home or immediate neighborhood at times especially coming home at night, so hopefully your head lights could shine on different sides of the home, illuminating possible hiding spots before pulling into your yard or parking lot.
If this is not possible, just remember to always have your house key identified ,if you have a bunch and in your hand ready, so you will not waste precious time once you've left your car, that you could be using to look around. When you get to front door, insert the key quickly, then turn you back to the door as you turn the key so can actually see if anything or anyone is coming. Remember, they like to surprise the victim making them unprepared. Don't give them that chance.
And although this may be a bit selfish to some,I would even say for you to call someone even if this means waking them up, if they are home to wait by the door as your look out until you drive in and you get to the door and open it for you quickly so you won't have to fumble for the keys or keyhole giving perps time to approach and surprise.
Last note, when getting home late at night and in the dark. Move fast and don't take your sweet time.
Thanks Cat, excellent advice.
"No shots were fired and no-one was injured". I wonder how much longer this will be the case as these scums continue to take away the feeling of safety from the law abiding citizen.
It is too bad that the victim didn't have a gun of his own. I am willing to bet that this will be another cold case.
Actually, knowing the victim he probably does but it is likely locked away in a safe where it cannot be accessed from outside the house! Just like every legally armed citizen, the weapons have to be locked away so that the only time they can be accessed and used is if the low-life has already broken in and is a present threat to life and property.
There needs to be a sea change in Cayman where the honest hard-working citizens can defend themselves more readily in such cases. Personally I carry something (legally available) which will leave the low-life blind for the remainder of their miserable life if I am accosted in such a circumstance! I say "bring it on!"
A Hoodie? Imagine that?? Sound familiar?
Are you that much of a simpleton that the completely unrelated mention of a piece of clothing provides the impetus to write this comment?
That's right – everyone who wears a hoodie is a criminal. Idiot.
Could these be the missing two from the last incident where the other one had been chopped in the head? seems quite fishy, that it happened in the opposite direction (South to North) of the other incident.
Both were wearing hoodies. Why would you need to wear hoodies in this hot weather but for style, to hide face, or commit a crime?
So why was Travoyn Martin wearing one?
Ummm…because it was cold, obviously, as it wouldbe on Feb 26 in Sanford, Fla. Next dumb question?
Watch “NEWS UPDATED : George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin / Afterburner With Bill Whittle” on YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrp8A2x2oN4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Exactly our point. Look where that got him.
Martin wore a hoodie In a similar climate and people are near rioting that it is irrelevant and racial to single a person out for potential criminal activity because of it. Govern yourself accordingly.