Would-be robbers hit on Brac
(CNS): A woman on Cayman Brac received minor injuries on Wednesday when she was slammed against her car and pushed to the ground by two masked men, police revealed Friday. What appears to be an attempted robbery took place outside the victim’s home in West End, Cayman Brac, but nothing was stolen as the would-be robbers were scared off when a neighbour intervened. The incident happened as the woman was getting out her car outside her residence at about 9:15 in the evening when she was forcibly shoved against her vehicle before the men ran off towards Market Place on foot.
Although street robberies are increasingly common on Grand Cayman, they are still rare on the Brac. This incident is bound to raise public concern that the rising crime on the most populated island is spilling over into the Brac.
Police confirmed that the men were not believed to be armed with any weapons and were described as medium build and average height. Neither of the masked men spoke during the foiled robbery attempt.
An RCIPS spokesperson said the matter is now under investigation by officers from the Cayman Brac Police Station and anyone with information is asked to call CBPS at 948 0331, RCIPS tip-line 949-7777 or Crime Stoppers on 800 8477(TIPS).
Category: Crime
Da probli' unni own brackas robbin' unni!
The Penal Code referes you to British Common Law which states: you may use reasonable force to defend yourself, property, someone else, or some else's property, (paraphrased). If you are being attacked, you can use what ever force you think is reasonable or nessesary to defend yourself.
Re. Pepper spray/Mace/OC: it is considered a prohibited weopon under the Penal Code; and a prohibited firearm under the Firearm Law 2008 (revision). It is an offense to be in possession of such articles unless you have a license granted by the Governor in cabinet (cabinet). The Police commissionor is not responsible for granting those licenses.
Read the current laws i.e. The Penal Code, Firearms Law, and the Police Law to educate yourself on what you CAN do and CAN NOT do regarding self defense; and urge your representatives to change the law so that we can better defend ourselves and our property. For the laws need changing quickly and drastically.
No pepper spray for us but the police without training and certification don't hesitate to use tasers on members of public
The victim knew right away who one of them was so where are the police?? Can the officers conduct an interview without their commanding officer babysitting?? MY greater concern is why the Liquer Store owner put his employees in harms way by instructing the employees to take the cash home at the end of the business day??? Too cheap to buy a safe??? They should be also charged with endangering their employees, especially a female at him home with a young child present!!!
I have not heard that she was carrying money from the liquor store. The newspaper article did not say this.
I talked to the victim the day after she was attacked. She told me herself, thatthere is a drop safe at the Liquor Store, and that's where all the cash is placed everynight. Apparently, it's the robbers who thought she carried the cash home with her…
You sound as though you know something. I hope you are communicating with Inspector Owens. If not, why not?
I can't believe that the last place where people lived in peace and acted like people has somehow attracted criminals. I agree with closely screening those who come over to the Brac from Grand Cayman especially if you are a known criminal. You should have to provide your reason for visiting and show that you have the money to support yourself while you are there. If not, stay the hell in Grand Cayman. We detest you coming to the Brac and destroying our tranquil and peaceful way of life!
You are indeed a hateful person. Wonderful people from Grand Cayman visit the Brac all the time. I'm sure a list of home grown Bracker criminals can easily be generated if you are so naive to think that no one from the Brac has ever broken the law.
Are you so sure they weren't born there ?
Is homemade pepper stay legal? I have a concoction of scotch bonnet and maiden plum I would love to try on these suckas.
Add cow-itch too.
I am from Grand Cayman but my heart is a Bracker to the bitter end…..It is sad as I am 100% sure the skum bags came over from Grand Cayman and did this and they probably not even from here either .SOME OLD RIFF RAFF that we inherit from status give away..I agree with some of the other posters too many no good bastards getting into Cayman Brac now destroying the piece and quietness of this wonderful place..Hope one of them real Brackers catch them and skin them…
15:58, maybe it's Brackers coming over to the mainland that are causing all of our problems?
When the people of these Islands start acknowledging that the majority of our problems are home grown, the crimes being committed are by our own family members, and that saying nothing does more damage than good, only then will we get anywhere.
So where are the 1500 eyes that Mr. Owen says he has. Didn't one of them see anything. The Cayman Brac Police needs revamping. The inspector lives in an imaginary world and uses the press to pat himself on the back. When he gets info its mostly because somones toes are being stamped on by their competition or the end result is in their favor. He and most of hs officers have no relationship with the Brac community, people see them as tyrants in uniform and most of the time he's off the Island. He may have one or two officers worth their paycheck and the rest could do with some major people skills and communication training. Thank God for the nice young lady who does the adminstrative work, she's the real rose amoungest a lot of thorns. Perhaps Mr. Owen could do less"cheers matey" and more relatinship building with the Brac community and then he may truely have those 1500 eyes.
The Inspector is, imo, working well within the community. You don't like him, we get that. I know the guy. Never have heard him say "cheers matey". Not once. If you know something, speak up. You don't have to do it here. The guy can be trusted. Call him. Tell him what you know.
Here's the deal creeps!
Don't destroy our paradise.
Now it's time for you to be afraid! Be very afraid!
00:47 how are you so sure those creeps are from Grand Cayman? Since you know where they are from you should know who they are and turn them in to the police. Not so smart, are you?
These two men are such abject failures they failed even to mug a defenceless, unsuspecting woman, a caring, fellow human being. It's sad they are unable to think through the far reaching consequences of what they've done. These actions send out disturbing ripples that negatively affect everyone in the Cayman Islands. They betray the socielty that generations have worked so hard to build up. This lady will be looking over her shoulder for the rest of her life, but she should remember that every decent person in the Islands cares about what happened to her. Perhaps one of the muggers will read this and think twice next time before they hurt others, that's if they're not in jail by then.
I hope that this will make the powers at be realise that the Sister Islands needs more than the rinky dink police force that is here. The RCIPS of CYB and LYB is a sad situation. For years the Sister Islands has been the place to stick all the officers that are in trouble and dysfunctional as to have them out of sight. And criminals know this! Trash is constantly "washing up" on our shores.
What if this woman fought back? Would she get charged if somehow he was severely injured or killed?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
Yep, she would have. Cause the criminals have rights (human) to terrorize without fear!
Then what can we do? I am a woman and I have children if this ever happened I don't want to be afraid of protecting myself and my children. If that is the case then why not just invite them inside willingly if we cannot do anything to stop them.
06:31, if someone attacks you and you fight back, it is known as self-defense.
Moses! Listen up. We in the Sister Islands need better border control in order to prevent these wretches from Grand Cayman coming over here and destroying our peace and tranquility. If they don't have a home, hotel reservation or proof of employment then they can't get on the plane. Simple. No committees needed. Amazing eh? I know! You're welcome.
Read the Constitution. You can't prohibit free movement amongst the islands. Do you really want the government to tell YOU that you cannot move freely? What we need is a police force that has interest in stopping and solving crime. That would be a good starting point. We need a Social Services that doesn't pay the rent of any convicted drug dealers/users, etc. We need magistrates and judges who look to the far end of sentencing guidelines instead of the beginning.
You can trot out your constitutional lawyers, but, as a practical matter, there is no such thing as free movement between the islands. Whether going by air or sea, you do have to clear the relevant authorities at either the airport or the port. So it isn’t quite the same as driving from district to district on Grand and there should be scope for some appropriate screening to make sure you are not popping over for the wrong kind of “R&R” (robbery and recreation).
00:47.And how about we start sending back all the Brackers who are committing crimes on Grand Cayman.Please,let's not get started on this rubbish.We are all one people,all Caymanians .Stop the division.
And what of the many tourist day trippers? I've been to the Brac myself a few times on a day trip.
No problem with “you”. It’s ” them” we are worried about. You know them when you see them.
They from " HERE"
Dosen'y it seem unlikely that someone who needs to mug an old lady can't afford a plane ride just to mug someone..
What about the would-be robbers who bare-footedly tried to rob Little Cayman?
Any news on them?
You mean the ones from last year who escaped by boat and were apprehended naked at sea? Deafening silence on that one.
Yes, those are the ones. I cannot believe it was so long ago and yet we have heard less than nothing.
Throw them in jail, they’re destroying my island! WP!
Alot of human garbage has drifted to Cayman Brac in the last few weeks. Come Police put more officers on Cayman Brac.
Criminals are cowards. These two slimeball opportunists are possibly from the Brac, and didn't want to give it away by their voices being recognised. We knew it would splash on the Sister Islands eventually, even though there is less space for the creeps to run than on Grand Cayman.
We have to be aware of our surroundings. We aren't allowed even minimal self-defense tools such as pepper spray/OC, but so far as I know, we are still allowed to carry canes and walking sticks.
I hope the woman recovers quickly. To her I would say, "it's not your fault, Ma'am; you didn't do anything wrong. I pray these two thugs are caught, tried and imprisoned. I hope you feel better soon."
Kudos to the neighbor who stood up and saved the day. Somebody besides the wastes-of-oxygen who did this knows who they are. It's time to stand up for what is good and right.
They must be expats cause the locals just go to gevernment and get a job
15:08.And you must be an idiot because "Stupid is ,as stupid does".
And RCIPS could not find them even on Brac? What is the population on Brac?
These people are pests….worst than them chicken-gun-ya carrying mosquitoes….I wonder if they have a spray for them as well.
Yes, its called Peper Spray, oh, what? We're still not allowed to use that?
(Don't worry CNS, I'll come back and troll-vote myself, but I couldn't resist the set-up.)
Yes, it's called pepper spray. But the RCIP in their wisdom will not allow us to carry it so we remain at the mercy of the criminals.
You just cant go around spraying all the criminals in these islands.
The RCIPS in their wisdom? Are you stupid? The laws are not made by the police. They are made by the LA. Talk about wisdom – you have none. What is it with the people on these islands – I'm surprised the police don't get blamed for leaking pipes and bad weather.
No, you are stupid. The police make up many of their own rules which are not in the law. It is the police who decides who may get a gun licence, for example. It is the police who have decided that sling shots are not allowed.
Spraying with a .380 ACP would be much more effective.
"…a spray for them as well…"
Yes, there is a spray for them. It's called MACE.
06:31, MACE or Pepper Spray is illegal in Cayman, the only people who are legally allowed to use and carry it are the Police.
Our only option to fight back seems to be with conch shells or coconuts, and that of course is dependant on them attacking first.
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