Street fight ends in stabbing

| 17/05/2010

(CNS): According to eyewitness reports, the holiday weekend has been marred by a major street fight that broke out in the early hours of this morning (Monday 17 May), which resulted in a serious stabbing and landed one man in hospital. Police have confirmed that one man has been arrested and another taken to hospital following the incident, which was reported to them around 4:10am. The police said the fight took place in the area near the Marquis Plaza off the West Bay Road but they did not have full details of how the fight had erupted. Eye witnesses told CNS that the police were called to the incident and were already at the scene observing the disturbance when the man was stabbed in the neck.

The victim is now said to be in a serious condition at the George Town Hospital and people at the scene said they were surprised that the situation was allowed to escalate, given the fact that the police had been called and officers from the Uniform Support Group were present when the victim was stabbed in the middle of what is being described as a street fight.  
CNS understands that there were a number of fights which had occurred inside some of the clubs in the area but had had all spilled on to the street and then up to the area around the Marquis, where the victim was eventually stabbed.
This is the third time in the last week that victims have received stab wounds to the neck. A 26-year-old man was charged with attempted murder following an incident last Sunday when a woman was airlifted to Jamaica after she was stabbed in the neck at her home in George Town.
On Saturday, 8 May, a 29-year-old man was hospitalized after receiving neck wounds from a broken bottle outside LI nightclub.
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  1. Anonymous says:

    The police are asswholes. This whole situation is being blown outta poportion and the innocent friends that tried to help where instead the ones that were attacked? LOL and to the comment about wait till they found out whose son it is thats foolish.

  2. Anonymous says:
     

    Surely all this begs the question as to whether or not we should have clubs open till getting on for dawn in the first place. Are we making a rod for our own backs? I mean, is it rational to expect sleep-deprived people to act, in general, reasonably? Ever dealt with a tired, fractuous child? How about hundreds of them? That’s exactly what our police officers have to do. Talk about having the patience of Job. Difference is many times they are dealing with twenty-somethings who act like mischievous14 year olds at the best of times : factor in alcohol, petty disputes, and being up way after their bedtimes and, surprise, there’s trouble time after time. And please, what foolishness to encourage all this by allowing a food joint to be still open at 4am based on some misplaced reasoning that "having something to eat will calm things down." There shouldn’t be the need to calm anything down to begin with. Advice to all you party-people : in the absence of sensible regulation of club licensing hours by our leaders, party till maybe 2am, then go home and get some sleep. Yes, I know life’s tough, and you don’t want the evening to ever end, but for the good of your country, please steel yourself and do your part. Signed, One Fed-Up with Foolishness Grownup.

    • Anonymous says:

      Personally, I think your attitude is a little ‘draconian’.  The vast majority of club-goers and late-nighters cause no trouble at all.  Its the usual case of a minority spoiling it for the majority.  And of course there’s the other view:  there’s very little for our youth do do here as it is – if we take away the clubs and late night entertainment they’ll be bored and looking for something else to do with their time – I suspect we could end up with a bigger problem if we followed your advices.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thanks for your comments. Agree100% with sentences two and three. However, taking away all entertainment venues would indeed be going too far, and was not part of the commentary, but are you seriously contending that two o’clock in the morning is too early to end the evening’s entertainment? And that having large groupings of persons on our streets after four o’clock in the morning is somehow normal, oreven a necessity? For God’s sake, think of the effect on our tourism. Moderation (and common-sense), please.

         
  3. Anonymous says:

    Can anyone tell me why  the Sandwiches baords by the side of the Road is left there with a HALF Naked woman ? Where is the Respect for us women. I am referring to the Board that is on Seven Mile Beach  promoting some event at Grand Pavilion .

     When do we see the offensive behaviour and disrespectful manner of degrading women ?

    Can the Planning Dept remove them off the side of the road as I am sure they are not even legally put there. Come on guys what extent will you go to exploiting women in order to  draw our young men in and make yourself a dollar ? 

    • Anonymous says:

      and what does this have to do with the story?????

    • Anonymous says:

       in answer to your question… sex sells. end of story.  It’s the same as the digging-up of the mangroves.  It’s the same as the destruction of 7 mile beach.  Money first.  money money.  we’re all the same.

  4. Anonymous says:

    I just got back from an interview in the States. I had lunch with 5 people. I figured that I would at least have something of interest to talk about, seeing as I live here. Unfortunately each one asked a question specifically about the safety of a person on the island.

    I’d say people are watching what is happening here!

  5. Anonymous says:

      this is all so sad that it is happening in cayman . Until we are Parents  take on the media ( specifically TV ) and  demand that they show less Voilent shows then our boys will continue to grow from innocent little boys to big thugs ,gangsters  who have so much hate and anger in their hearts for their fellow man .

     Until the TV stations particullarly see the influence they are having on our families then we wouldn’t have a  bettter society . Okay please don;t give me the old cliche that says " parents should monitor what their children watch"  That is not working obviously because of

     1) the children are out of school at 3pm . And parents don’t really get out of traffic and home  until about 6pm. That is about 3 hours of being exposed to sex and voilent behaviour and attitudes  by our children

    2) Children were NOT born with these  voilent behaviours. They have LEARNT them from the TV shows ( thus their environments)

    3) Many parents do NOT know that they can call the TV station for help to  help block out the voilent channels with is about  95% of the channels and shows

    4) We tell our children to stay out of bad company yet we bring it right into their Living room and Bedrooms . How deadly yet we look around and  become alarmed , and shocked once we   see our children  develop such voilent, angry,  deviant young people

    Get a grip TV station. . You have a social responsibility to   present our families with cleaner, family, PBS  shows etc  that will influence our thoughts , actions, behaviours, manners as  young  people and a society as a whole

    Okay so what y about he Internett ? Not many of our families can afford a Computer and the Internet Fees each month in these tight times.

    Lets get really and go to 20 houses in the west bay area and tell me how many can afford the internet fees each month

    We wouldn’t fix the problem only we first IDENTIFY the problem .

    Hope we can change what we show and watch to our children and families from today onward . I believe  we can change  our old ways that are NOT working from this week onwards

  6. Anonymous says:

    today is the victims birthday, and look where he is.

  7. Anonymous says:

    It’s frightening that the RCIPs don’t have a protocol to deal with situations like this. If there is hostility and fighting between two large groups at four in the morning you would think they would at least make sure some back-up and an ambulance was available. At best you think they would get other officers to the scene asap, arrest the trouble-makers and move the rest of the people on. To just stand and watch the fight escalate until someone gets stabbed…that is scary. That basically means if you’re out and a group of people start harassing you or your girlfriend you are on your own and the police will not intervene until you are basically dead and even then they will do it slow.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yea — they probably do and it probably goes something like this:

      1. investigate the complaint

      2. if it is a mob scene and there aren’t enough police present — don’t go get killed for an argument over a girl

       

    • Anonymous says:

      Excuse me, but four o’clock in the morning is not a normal time for human activity, unless one is "on nights". There seems to be a weird acceptance going on here. Human beings need eight hours sleep to function normally. Being out of your bed at four o’clock in the morning is not normal. Are we saying that people awake at four o’clock in the morning can be expected to function the same way as we would expect people to function at four o’clock in the afternoon? What is this, some kind of new reality? Please folks, let’s get real. This isn’t an "attitude" issue, it’s a physiological/behavioural issue. Do the people on the boards that approve these opening hours consider such things? Evidently not, or they wouldn’t be so foolish as to approve such ridiculous applications. I just pity the poor police officers having to cope with these sleep-deprived, rather confused individuals. All you grownups out there, start speaking out.

  8. JE'NAE ADAMSONS says:

    Well I guess from what I’m reading the only good thing the " POLICE" did was arrested the suspect(s) of this crime … But apparently they just stood there and watched as the victim was being assulted.

    I mean honestly the RCIPS could have really done alot better than that for heavens sakes they are armed and protect or so they claim that all officers would from Jerimiah Barnes Murder that all police will be equipt be they are on duty.

    Gosh they have pepper stray but it’s a shame the people who are suppose to be protecting out islands are afraid of the criminals!

    SHAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ON THE RCIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. West Bay G says:

    ICE CUBE Said It Best!… .

    Its hard to not point fingers… they rather give speeding tickets and peel off tint… or sit in car and sleep… or sit on they butt with radar gun lol… Its a PITY SHAME SHAME WUTLESSSS OCCIFAH (Jacan wordplay)… I cant believe they witnessed the entire incident and did nothing. Then peper sprayed the poor victims… With soo many witnesses to the terrible job that night done by police, it will be hard for them to deny the SLACKNESS.

    • Anonymous says:

       How about a comment on the idiots involved in the fight.  And the IDIOT witnesses.  Jeeezus would you listen to yourself?!  

  10. Anonymous says:

     I am an avid club goer, in the Cayman Islands and Overseas. I have witnessed patrons threaten each other, in front of armed police in Cayman. Saying they are going to go get there gun, and the police officers DO NOT REACT, not even a flinch.

    I have witnessed this overseas, and the police immediately apprehend the ppl and search there cars, or detain them in the patrol car / van till the night is over.

    This incident was no different. If the police is trying to offer a presence by being there. They should have intervened. NOT WATCH THEM. Put them in the car search and escort them to leave or arrest them. Its simple, you have to be proactive in these times. 

     

    • Anonymous says:

      But the difference in the US is that the Police have guns – much easier to apprehend someone.

      • Rorschach says:

        Don’t forget the backbone and cajones!!  BOTH of which are sorely lacking in the RCIP!!  That being said, some of those British WPC’s have bigger B@LL$ than most of the Male PC’s…

      • Dred says:

        Still if police do nothing they are useless. What sense is it to have Police but they don’t POLICE a situation.

        XXXXXXX They need to start being proactive instead of waiting for a body to deal with. It’s almost like they want it to help justify pay rises or something.

         

  11. Anonymous says:

    Do we have some kind of ‘loitering’ law?  Maybe it would help police out if we had a no loitering law after certain hours.  I understand there’s a food place at the marquis plaza but honestly, if you’re not buying food or with someone who’s buying food, then there’s no need for you to be hanging around in the parking lot at 4:10am causing trouble.  If you want to hang out with friends, then head to someone’s house.

    • Anonymous says:

      Would it be okay to hang around in the parking lot at 4:10am without causing trouble?

      • Anonymous says:

        Depends if you think being awake just before dawn is good for you. Medical research continues to reinforce the need for eight hours sleep. So assuming your natural time for awakening is not about one o’clock in the afternoon (if you turn in at 5 am), then you’ll at least be disrupting your natural sleep pattern. Might I suggest you consult with your parents/doctor on your question? (Curious : why 4.10, exactly?)

    • Dred says:

      Actually don’t need loitering law if fighting is ongoing and THREATS being thrown around. All you do is call in a squad van and round them up and take them to central.

      What you don’t do is what they did. Sit there and wait for a true victim. This one is on their heads. They allowed this to progress.

      It’s time our RCIP learnt about being pro-active. Using the law as a tool to break up situations. I;m sure all things being teh same the young man would much rather be at central on lockdown then in Critical Care Unit.

    • Anonymous says:

      Encouragingly, another voice of reason. And regarding threatening police, when you threaten police, you threaten every man, woman and child in this country, for sure. Anyone threatening police should be arrested and charged immediately, and if that means calling out the riot squad, so be it. We live by the rule of law, not thuggery. To our police officers, I say God bless you, and remember, the public you are servants to is by and large appreciative of your efforts, even though at times some wayward (and, when all said and done, really quite foolish) individuals might make you conclude otherwise!

       
  12. Anonymous says:

    I was their at Al La Kebab, after I got my food I walked to my car to leave.

    The insident happened because the victim was defending a girl who he knew was being harassed by a group of men in a car particulary one who is JAMAICAN NATIONAL to leave the girl alone. The man started to punch the victim and victim repeatedly puched him away and finally started fighting back. The police stood a mear 20 feet away looking at the scene! Their was ONE police officer off duty and out of uniform that came and stopped the fight along with a few other of the victim’s friends. It wasn’t untill a minute of or so after the fight was over that he realized he was bleed and then he fell to the floor and the ambulance was called. THE AMBULANCE TOOK 30 MINUTES TO GET THEIR FROM THE HOSPITAL!! While the victim was on the ground the ground the XXXX police came a pepper sprayed the victim and friends around him who were took off their shirts to try and stop the bleeding. Yes folks the XXXXXX did this.

    But you know what I must give them a little congradulations becuase the caught the guy who did it.. (which we all know rarely happens) XXXXXXX.

  13. Anon says:

    Whether the police are at fault or not, that still doesn’t change the fact that gone are the days when innocent, mature people can come out for a night of fun without the foolishness that’s going on with this generation nowadays. What the hell is wrong with you people?? Why is it that you have to ruin the privileges that are granted to businesses or the safe environment that partygoers were once used to? And why are you bringing your friggin disputes on the street with you? If you’re having issues with each other, go to the police station, make a report or go to your lawyer. You really think fighting and carrying on like a bunch of idiots is making you all look good to society? Might be to your friends but, to other folks, you come across as hooligans. 

    And pertaining to the comments on placing blame on the clubs, this is BS! How can you expect club owners and their security to control these violent offenders that choose to carry out these acts after they leave the premises? Just because a place is granted permission to open late occasionally that doesn’t give anyone the right to go down the street and shoot/stab their enemy just because the lyrics of some stupid song played in the club earlier went to their small minds and gave them the idea that they can play Steven Segal. Come on guys (and gals too), give us old people a break here. There’s some us that continue to live an outgoing lifestyle and we want to come out and enjoy ourselves too without having to drive around all night trying to find a place where there’s a minimum expectacy of you all starting a war after you get in a few drinks. If you’re old enough to be out, then start acting like adults and stop this sh*t, man!

  14. street watcha says:

    Police are Great when they control the murders and everyone is feeling good. You can go shopping, or jogging or partying till late hours. But the moment there is an incident you all pass your adverse criticism and judgement on them. They are trying. they are only human and need the cooperation of all citizens and residents of these Islands. Those of you that say you will not assist the police by giving evidence or share information of what you know,shame on you!!! Those of you who declare you are going to leave your Island thumbs down to such decision.Responsible citizens don’t leave when these challenges arise, they hold their grounds and fight for what they believe in. Rather than pondering these steps, you should resolve to do what you can to help preserve law and order in the Islands. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. All of us should make a deliberate effort to help rid the islands of crime. Also if you think the police did not act apprppriately at the incident, step up to the plate and lodge a complaint.

    • anonymous says:

      Standing there and watching someone get stabbed is not trying! Get real.  In some countries, regular people can go to jail if they do not help someone in danger – its called the good samaritian law.  The Police cant even act like regular people here in Cayman.  The cops that were there should be tossed off the force.  Why are we paying their salaries???

      • pauly cicero says:

        What did the regular people do to ameliorate the situation?

        • Dan Dan says:

          To Pauly Cierco:

           

          Um the regular people (who don’t get paid to police) did the same thing the police did (whom we pay).

          If you don’t get this, I’ll try to break it down further for you.

           

  15. Anonymous says:

    I’M  Sorry but the police was call for a reason not to stand by and wait for something to happen  this should have never happen they should have went there and took control of the problem before this gentleman was stab when the public speak up against the force there is some people that fines a problem with this  but please  remember its the officers thats giving us the public something to talk about  if they where doing there jobs instead of crap we wouldnt have to critize them but looks like they are train they are only train to give out ticketsthey are surely good at that.

    • Sir Henry Morgan says:

      I do believe this person may be our Premier’s speach writer.

      • Hopeless says:

        And you must be the spelling teacher.  Next time you try to point out how bad someonelse smell’s make sure your pamper is clean.

  16. Anonymous says:

    It’s a shame that someone was injured, but there is a lesson to be learnt.  For any confrontation to occur, there must be two opposing parties.  Obviously there were quite a sufficient group of people on each side and you mean to tell me that you needed the police to step in with an almighty hand and beat everyone apart?  Not one of you were there by force.  everyone of you stayed there by choice and probably through egos stoked by peer pressure.  Had you all come to the realisation that confrontation was imminent, each one of you could have said, "We have gone far enough with this.  Let’s walk away and leave things be."  Instead of blaming the police, look at yourselves.  Someone initiated the confrontation, all of you helped to fuel it by your mere presence, not one of you said to those engaged that it was time to discontinue the situation and pull them away to cool off and not one of you were samrt enough to walk away.  You stayed and watched the stabbing occur.  What did each of you do?  With all of you present, why did you let one person stab another?

    On the other side, you have the police who are clearly outnumbered.  They have got to consider their own safety in a hostile environment.  The Police are ineffective if they do not have sufficient resources to control an agitated and hostile crowd.  If they use force to disperse the crowd, you would have either wanted to gang and beat them, because they were few in number at the time, or you would have said that they were using heavy handed tactics unwarrantedly and use that as justification to incite an attack on them.

    You all need to have respect for yourselves and others and act like educated human beings.  Settling every dispute by means of violence is very primitive and immature behavior.  So next time you are out in your numbers, use your influence for good and not stand by and watch another human perpetrate an act of violence on another human being.

  17. Anonymous says:

    I was there and I witnessed the whole thing. After the fact that he was stabbed in the neck I watched as the police stood by and just looked on, while his friends were trying to save his life. It didn’t have to be taken that far if the police actually did something. There were about 3 other altercations around A La Kebab previous to the incident and afterward is when my friends were saying that they had been pepper sprayed. After? Seriously? After someone gets stabbed in the neck? Is this the service our money is paying for? In that case I would definitely like a refund.

    Dont even get me started on the length of time it took for the ambulance to arrive. If anything ever happens to me I’ve already told people to just throw me in the car and take me to the hospital. That was a serious injury not a sprained ankle. They’re so lucky that he made it and didn’t die.

  18. Anonymous says:

    For all those that are saying that the police are not to blame, look at it this way. If a fight breaks out at the club I can only assume that it is the security’s responsibility to put the attackers outside. They are not the police and they are only working for the club. If the ‘victim’ wants to then go outside- who’s to stop them? Once the security is aware that there is or a potential altercation, the least they can do is phone the police. In my opinion, police should already be on stand-by at the clubs at a certain hour. Apparently the police were already there in witness to a fight/ argument, they obviously just stood by and watched. Maybe they tried to keep it under control, I don’t know. But I believe that in such an instance they should have thrown all parties into the police car and taken them to the station, after the first warning. I say this because in these times, it would not had even been safe for them to let these people leave the scene because matters could have escalated elsewhere leading to aworse outcome. All those that love to run and watch fights, they should have been the ones to be pepper sprayed. Why? ‘Because they are too dam fass’ and love to instigate war! How is it that you are supposed to feel safe anymore, when you get stabbed right in front of the police?? It’s bad enough when you call them and they have to try and get to you, but THEY WERE THERE! A man could have been killed and what were they going to say? It should have never gotten to that extent. If they felt that the situation was too overwhelming, then they should have called for back-up. I can personally testify that I have seen an altercation outside of a nightclub and the police were there and they could not/ WOULD NOT hold back the four or five girls that were trying to start a fight. And when one of them tried to leave they had her blocked in with their cars as if they were wanting to see her get beat up. I hate to say it but they can be absolutely USELESS at times. It’s ridiculous. Events like this only places more fear in the hearts of the innocent and boldness in the minds of the perpetrators..

  19. Anonymous says:

    Its so sad to read alot of these ignorant statements and i can tell from the tone of many of them that the writers are young and undoubtedly friends of the victims. I was not there on teh night of the incident so I cannot speak on the actions of the police officers but to put ALL the blame on the RCIP is just luducrous. The ppl involved in teh altercation are not infants, they are grown @$$ boys who know right from wrong and who have common sense. Everyone must beheld accountable for tehir actions. The RCIP should not have let it escalate to the stabbing?? NO! The individuals should not have let it escalate to that. With all that has been going on in Cayman, prolonging a confrontation the way they did that night is the LAST THING anyone should do. HE should not have stood there and carried on the dispute for as long as he did and should have walked away longggg before it got to the point it did. I am not picking up for the RCIP as I do believe they have many faults but I also believe it is not only up to them to make a deifference in our community, we as Caymanian people play a major role in that. So stop looking ppl to put the blame on for the nonsensical behaviour of grown ppl. You want to be a man? Well man up and take responsibility for your actions.

     

    That is all.

  20. Anonymous says:

    from neglecting kids??? i will have u noe he comes from a very well rounded home and was only defending someone that the police should have done while watching it… but no blame caymanian parents when i bet you dont even know what nationality the victim was stabbed by??? stop asumeing and blameing and find out the truth!!! damn ole pricks you all our not careing about friends life one bit but point fingers… shame on all of u even more if u are caymanian…

  21. anonymous says:

    I THINK IT IS TIME FOR CERTAIN CLUBS TO CLOSE DOWN! AND IN REGARDS TO THE REMAINDER OF CLUBS … HAVE POLICE PRESENT IN THE CLUB AND OUTSIDE THE CLUBS AT ALL TIMES.

    • Anonymous says:

      Obviously police presents doesnt matter!!! they witnessed the stabbing!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh please be quiet…police being present in the club makes absolutely no sense, they are good for nothing! They witnessed the whole fight, beginning to end and wouldn’t even try stopping it before it escalated to what it did. Even after it happened they stand around and watch.

      Worthless old RCIP!

  22. Anonymous says:

    I have to say I am <b>appalled</b> if the Police did just stand there and watch, and did not try and prevent this situation.  I am just as <b>appalled</b> that people are giving a thumbs down to those that are pointing the finger at police.

    Yes it is easy to point the finger at police, but at this point, I have to tell you that they <b>are</b> not earning any respect in any way, shape or form from the community.  Mr. Baines is equally as dissappointing to the Caymanian people.  I truly beleive (as an expat!) that a Caymanian Commissioner should be appointed, without question.  I don’t for a second beleive that a Caymanian appointed to that role would be biased, and I have met many Caymanians who would serve that role with honor, respect and without prejudice. 

    This is becoming a very dangerous place and I beleive that <b>strong</b> Caymanians could change this island and turn everything around if given a chance.  The UK will have oversight of course (by nature of being an BOT), but Caymanians can run this country <b>if</b> they are given the chance and <b>if</b> they are start standing up to those people who are pushing them around (McKeeva included!).  I know there are Caymanian leaders and I am holding out hope they get together, rise up together against the establishment (read UK and Caymanian tyrants), put small differences to the side, and take back this island!

    If you are reading this, and you are Caymanian, do this for the sake of your country, you are very close to the edge of the cliff.

  23. inside job says:

    officers at the scene should not be blamed. if you were aware of the ‘situation in the station’, you would understand that the problem lies at the top.

    i will become more vocal and reveal some of the real issues in time. the fact is here – the officers you see not doing their jobs are proverbially handcuffed when they get in their cars to start their shifts.

    the reason for this is the XXXX running the show. they are being cowed by a few XXXXX people. because of those few, cayman will suffer. watch and see.

    you can not like what i say, but if you think it isnt true, its because you dont know what is happening inside.

  24. Anonymous says:

    Interesting that everyone is milling around and obviously confronting each other, and yet the police get the criticism for not stepping in.  At 4am in the morning, how many police officers are there to take on a crowd of a hundred plus?  Next thing will be a knife in one of their backs, and it sounds to me all they would have done is move the problem.

    Next question – if it looks like it’s kicking off, why are you all still in the area?  Why would you not get yourselves out of harms way?  Time to go home when things are getting ugly – or are you all hanging around yourselves to seewhat happened.

    Has all this started in the clubs, if so then the answer lies in the clubs themselves.  Easy to blame the police, but look a bit deeper – also, not exactly what we need on SMB.  

    • Anonymous says:

      Stop talking XXXX After the police watched 2 guys fighting until one got stabbed, then pepper sprayed innocent bystanders for trying to help the man that was stabbed. XXXXX Instead of parting the fight they pepper sprayed the XXXX’s son and toll him they needed 2 protect him because he was  the XXXX’s son. So what are they telling us now if your not 4 someone high in society they don’t give a f*** about u, that’s bull. Yes the ambulance. Took 30 mins to get on the scene, but that’s not really there fault they had 2 get clearance from the police before they arrive at the scene, so there sgsin the police f***** up again. If u ask me all they worry about is driving around in bullet proof vests an air condition trying 2 portray this image that they have power. The goverment needs 2 train those XXXXX. U can’t have people working as tire changers at XXXX, painting lines in the road and then all of sudden they turn in to super cops trying 2 deal with people in those kind of situations. Training them on truman bodden netball court doesn’t cut it.

  25. Anonymous says:

    If you live in darkness, you are subject to the rule of darkness and every evil thing that goes with it. Get home at a reasonable time and stop getting high and playing macho. Don’t blame the police, next time, they might let you all kill each other. Behave yourselves, children.

  26. Chet O. Ebanks says:

    Oh my what a SHAME , SHAME ROYAL CAYMAN ISLANDS POLICE, YOU MEAN THOSE XXX men and women in uniform we have who I have no respect for at all anymore. POLICE COM should be fired he not doing amy better than the previous jokers we have had. I myself am ashamed to call myself a Caymanian, and even me am thinking and thinking hard about leaving this island as one post said on here this once peacefull island. XXXXX and the want the PUBLIC TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION AND HELP THESE JOKERS SOLVE CRIME WHAT A JOKE. XXXX

  27. Anonymous says:

    IT SEEMS LIKE THE MORE POLICE OFFICERS THEY ASK FOR, IS THE LESS WORK THEY DO…

    When will we open our eyes and realize that the Police Service is not being managed properly!  We don’t need no more officers – we need proper management!

  28. noname says:

    This is the same reason why young people from Cayman like myself will never trust or cooperate with the police.  I am only 22 years old and had to watch my friend get his neck slashed open last night.  The police could have stopped this disturbance a long time before and we would not be here talking about it.

    All the police do is harrass who they want to harrass and then you expect us as young Caymanians to assist them when they ask WHO DID IT?  Thanks but no thanks.  These cops are a jokes here.

    Okay so there are a few that you can count on. I can count those on 1 hand only. Not even 2 hands. The rest of them including the Commish of Police should just be fired. They are the ones causing half the problems.  Just like the other commentator today I am ashamed of calling myself Caymanian after seeing the incompetence and ineffectiveness of the STUPID ROYAL MY XXX CAYMAN ISLANDS WANNA BE POLICE.  I witnessed that first hand! 

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m sorry for your friend’s injury, but did you think about moving on when the problem started? Why were you out at 4 a.m. anyhow? Nothing good happens at that hour anyhow and clubs have been shut a long time before. Isn’t that the reason why you are talking about it now? Everyone has a decision to make and the decision to leave the problem area was not choosen. Peer pressure took over for your friend and violence happened. I hope your friend’s injuries heal soon. Take care of yourself and your buddy.

      • Cmon Son! says:

        Cmon Son!

        You dont even know what really happened.

        The clubs closed at 4AM. and Al La Kebab is one of the only places open at that hour to get decent food.

        Have you ever thought to think that the victim was defending anything?

        XXXXX

      • Anonymous says:

        Tue, 05/18/2010 – 05:07… FYI the club closed at 3:45 that night… just thought you should know….

    • Anonymous says:

      Obviously you saw that there was a disturbance too….why didn’t you leave the scene and take your friend with you?  What were you doing hanging around in a parking lot at 4:10am anyway?  You’re so quick to blame the police, but you could have gotten away from the situation.  Remember that you have to give respect in order to receive it in return. 

      All you youngsters do nowadays is take take take and never do anything in return.  No wonder this island is going to ****, none of you have any respect for anyone anymore.  What kind of people are you hanging out with anyway if they’re the type to get into fights and stir up trouble? 

      • Anonymous says:

        Thats the problem right there. You all are out of touch with the young people of these islands and all these comments only add fuel to the fire. Build bridges rather than barriers!!!

        XXXXXX

        The Police will not only be under pressure because of their non involvement but when they did get involved they used "pepper spray" on the friends that were helping the victim. Wait till they find out whose son was pepper sprayed.

  29. TRUTH says:

    I was there last night.  There was several altercations taking place and the police just stood there leaning on their SUV while the Security guards that have NO WEAPONS, NO VEST, NO PROTECTION was there pulling people apart and seperating the fights.

    This incident moved into the street and the police just watched as they argued and started to fight.  I guess they were waiting to see who would get beat down then come and intervene.  I can bet they were not expecting to see it get that far.  Even so, once the stabbing took place they were very slow to respond.  I think the police were more scared because of the large crowd than anything else. 

    This incident would have never gotten to where it is had the police not called for more officers and started to tell the people to leave.  That is all they had to do.  Then after the stabbing they gonna spray pepper spray on the faces of those trying to help the dude on the ground.  DUMB ASSES TOO LATE POLICE!!   I think this is a direct embaressment to the RCIP and I am really ashamed in them.  I have no confidence that our police could handle an all out riot on this island or if they would not piss themselves in a shoot out.  The police here just like the last comment said ARE WORTHLESS.  Here we have a chance to see the police show some authority and instead theystand right up and watch this young man get his throat cut wide open.  SHAME ON YOUR COMMISSIONER BAINES SHAME ON YOU!!

    • Twyla Vargas says:

      Truth remember many people were there.  Be careful some one can say diferent.   The police actions were as they should have been.  Nuff said.

  30. Anonymous says:

    In response to Jim’s comment, the police were pepper spraying his own friends that were there trying to comfort him and hold his hand while he was laying near death on the pavement!  Need I mention that the ambulance took FORTY FIVE MINUTES to arrive despite the fact that the police had already been on the scene even prior to the actual attack. Also, pepper spray did (in agreement with the last comment)  increase the difficulty for my high school friend to breathe and should be used in moderation, just a litle tip for our lovely police officers seeing that they pepper sprayed his best friend so much that his entire face swoll to the size of a basketball!  WORTHLESS is right!  The police literally stood around and watched while his friends and one police officer (whose name I won’t mention but he too is a family friend) stayed by his side and tried to put pressure on the wound to slow down/stop the bleeding.  All I have to say is thank Christ that the attacker didn’t hit his jugular vein!

    My prayers go out to his family and close friends.  I have faith he will pull through, but I tell you one thing…seeing the police’s response to a fight that wasn’t no where near as dangerous as the gang incidents that have been going on I have very little confidence in how "protected" our country and its citizens truly are.

    • Anonymous says:

      you misinformed joker!!!!!!! stop spreading rumors on those medics!!!!!! 911 information says differently……….. they took five mins from the diapatched time to the time they arrived…….. it is people like you that makes the whole emergency system look worst than it really is……foo fool

  31. Anonymous says:

    Did not expect anything better of the RCIP.  I was there and all they did was stand there and after the man get stabbed they wanna go pepper spray people to move away from him.  WUTLESS PO PO’S we gah here.  And you expect dem to be the ones save us from real gangs shooting?  Lucky this was a knife and not a gun or they might had open fire on the crowd. 

    • jim says:

      Worthless?  I don’t see it worthless to keep people away from contaminating the crime scene like yourself!  Suppose the man died and there was physical evidence lost because of people like you walking all over the crime scene!

      Good work RCIP – at least, the man did not die for lack of people taking away his oxygen

      • Anonymous says:

        You both are fools.  The police should have stopped the problem before it got to that point.  And you talking about giving him oxygen?  yeah oxygen when they spraying pepper spray all over the place?  The police messed up and that is that. 

        • Anonymous says:

          That’s the problem with Cayman; everyone relies on the Police to stop crime. Rather, it is a community effort and if you are in the way of the Police from doing their jobs, you are not helping the situation.

          The root cause of crime is from Caymanian parents neglecting their children!

          • Tony Montana says:

            If we cant rely on the police to stop crime then why do we pay them??  Whay do we have so many?? Why not get rid of them genious?? 

        • Anonymous says:

          It seems obvious that the police need much more training in handling

          incidents like this. This should be a wake up call for them to do retraining

          of all officers to know how to properly handle these situations and keep

          them from escalating into violence and serious injury.

          They need to put those” high priced investigators” from Britain to work in

          mandatory re training for all officers.

      • Anonymous says:

        Good job RCIP? Have you knocked your head. I can say that today I am ashamed to call myself a Caymanian. When are we going to do something to stop these punks from doing whatever they want. Soon good people like me will leave the island and their will be nothing but trash left on this once beautiful island. What a shame that I even have the thought of leaving. My wife and I own several companies here and are both 5th and 6th generation caymanians. SAD SAD SAD!!!!!!! 

      • Anonymous says:

        At least the man did not die???? Are you for real?! Do you realize that he is in critical care needing the help of a machine to breathe…..unresponsive! Police ARE worthless! This man did NOT have to be in this condition! Police need to do better….just watching the scene they had nothing under control dem bastards!

      • Anonymous says:

        XXXX there would not have been a crime scene if they were doing their job. XXXX