Robbery in Camana Bay

| 10/05/2014

(CNS): A man was robbed of just $4 by a gang of robbers Friday night, one of whom was armed with a machete. Police have arrested two of the gang of four but the other men remain on the run. The robbery, which happened at about 11:03 pm on Friday 9 along Camana Way on the stretch between the small town centre and the West Bay Road, generated a full scale response from the police with the helicopter K9 Units all called to the scene. After the robbers took the man’s four dollars, they ran into the bushes towards Lawrence Boulevard. Police apprehended two of the suspects and arrested them on suspicion of robbery.

Police are now hunting for the other two suspects and anyone who has information in relation to this or any other crime is asked to contact 949 7777 or Crimestoppers on 800 TIPS to remain anonymous
 

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  1. Anonymous says:

    I've visited Cayman Bay and Caymana Way and I've noticed:

    1) There is (or appears to be) only one Camera pointing toward Camana Way.

    2) The secutiry guards and RCIP appear to focus more on the Cinema and restauranta than the far side of the car park or on the Caymana Way.

    3) There is frequently a gang on young men hanging out on Caymana Way on the weekend.

    4) The lights are not always working on Cayman Way – nature trail.  I've often wondering if that was by design or just lazy employees.

    5)  When the young men are there there is often the smell of pot on the area.

    6) The blue spot for those will special needs is often fill up by people who appear to have no disability other than humanity.

    I'm an honest person and I noticed that, can you just think of how much more a dishonest person up to mischief would noticed or has noticed?

  2. scared lady says:

    poor cayman …….. scared too go there now

    • Anonymous says:

      Thanks Mac…your 3000 status grants to our needy neighbors really starting to pay dividends now.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thanks PPM. You did nothing and then assisted another 5,000 to get status from Mac’s 3,000. Thanks UK, you actually signed the certificates granting the status to people without any vetting. Thanks police, you refused to investigate any of the obvious corruption involved in some of the grants. Thanks Govt Legal Department, you opined on the legality of it all AFTER many of you had already received questionable grants, but yes, above all, thanks Mac.

      • Anonymous says:

        Like a broken record.  What do you propose?  Everyone goes into a time machine and sorts it out?

        • Anonymous says:

          We do not need a time machine. We just need someone willing to enforce the law around here. Now, if only we were not so corrupt.

  3. Anonymous says:

    .It is difficult to make a conclusion on what is going on in Cayman Islands based o headlines and people's comments. There is certainly a disparity among Caymanian people, but to what extend? On one side there are people employed by the government who are way overpaid and underworked, on  the other side are unemployed (and unemployable) people, who scream it is expat’s fault. On one side is the world’s financial center, on the other side people commit and justify crime because they allegedly can’t meet ends and feed their children.

    But what are the real numbers? Where is the truth? Basic human rights for basic food, water and roof over one’s head come with life itself. One would think that Cayman Government has a bigger picture of what is happening here and is working on real solutions. Having “Job drives” for unemployable people is not the solution, demanding jobs in private sector for people with no skills and education is not a solution; blaming  investors for all wrongs that are happening here will take you nowhere. Solution starts with understanding of the problem.

    • Anonymous says:

      15:35.What about demanding jobs in private sector for people with skills and education,does that meet your approval?Probably not ,since the general idea is to deny Caymanians .

      • Anonymous says:

        Notihng good will come out of one's forced entry,just because one thinks that someone must employ him or  her on the baisis of being born in Cayman Islands.

         

  4. Anonymous says:

    This is all his own fault, everyone should know by now that it's not safe to walk down the street at 11Pm alone with in Cayman. 

    • Anonymous says:

      Nah, dis gotta stop! …You should be able to freely walk the streets of Cayman at any time with no ill-thoughts that any crime will happen. This is supposed to be "island paradise" if that means anything to you.

      Guys – remember this is our bread and butter you are messing with… I'm just saying, keep chippin' the rock and we have nothing but dust! 

  5. Anonymous says:

    Is anything good happening in CI? Can't be all bad.

  6. Baines or brains? says:

    Last night a scary man followed us to our car after my Mother's Day dinner and asked my husband for "money for burger king"

    This was on the waterfront and he followed my husband around the back of our car!?  We then noticed as this person accosted 2 other downtown diners getting into their car too!

    We told the security guard at the door as we drove away (but he just smiled since he really did not understand English ) when I called the restaurant manager seconds later I could tell he was flying out the door to take control.

    But WHERE are the police patrols?  Where is the enforcement?

    RCIPS have no presence!

    Immigration enforcement is too weak!

    Come on folks….60,000 people on a small rock with huge Govt budget and CCTV cameras, there is no reason we cannot get a handle on this criminal mess.

    Close the borders for drugs (someone finally get the balls to put the well known kpinpins away!?)

    Clean up our streets once and for all….. please, a scared mother on mothers day

    • Anonymous says:

      Good question! everybody is asking where is the $%%$& police? Anybody knows? One police staff for every 10-15 people? Where are they?

      One more note-it is so easy now to film or take a photo. Why did not you record the incident?

      • anonymous says:

        DID you call police? Or did you make contact using telepathy?

         

      • Anonymous says:

        The police are distracted by the high levels of criminality in the other areas.

    • Anonymous says:

      Did you call the police?

  7. Gran Heffe says:

    This brings to mind one bible verse – "I will hand you over to your perverse generations"

    This is the outcome of several happenings :

    – Lack of Discipline in the home (it is much easier to train a child than to reform an adult)

    – Lack of a Reputable Police force\\DPP\\Attorney General

     – Lack of real leadership and ill management (failure to realize prevention is better than cure)

    – Majority of financial sectors and other business no longer take on school leavers (PHD 10 years experience – and all the other familiar BS we see on job adverts)

    – Kids are left to be raised by the television, internet and video games

    – lack of belief in anything other than self righteousness and self praise (me me me me)

    – desensitized youth, confused,with no identity thus allowing for easy manipulation wheather throught television or their peers at schools/neighbourhoods

    I know I know – i should be premier but it seems my fellow Caymanians prefers the lies of the pretentious political pros***tutes they elect year after year. In my short 28 years i have realized that people love to talk and love to hear themselves talk! This is why Talk Show host like Operah can make hundreds of millions of dollars without actually getting anything done. Cayman has begun to follow suite with the rest of the world instead of remaining unique and doing what is best for Cayman. This situation will only get worst i am most sure of it.

    • Anonymous says:

      You should be Premier, with knee jerk simplistic stuff like this.

    • Annie says:

      Okay, when you started with ‘one Bible verse’ I immediately zoned out, and skipped your post. I just can’t take the lack of logic, it must be the damn heathens fault posts.

  8. Anonymous says:

    This was just a matter of time.

    I recall going on a pre-contsruction tour of Camana Bay whenDart Reality first pitched the idea of Camana Way. It was supposed to be a straight pedestrian walkway that allowed a view from sea-to-sea, host activities, and allow access from West Bay Road to Camana Bay.  I envisioned something like the ramblas in Spain. 

    Instead it became an overgrown, overly landscaped, unsafe wilderness pass representing Cayman's different raw ecosystems. I have never felt safe walking through there and would certainly not walk through there after dark.

    All those tall trees and bushes need to be removed or trimmed to knee-height to ensure it is safer to walk through.

    • Anonymous says:

      Blame the trees.

      • Anonymous says:

        The trees provide opportunities for perps to conceal themselves from unsuspecting pedestrians.

        • Anonymous says:

          Then they will ambush you someplace else. You can cut all trees and shrubs on this island with zero effect on crime. But I won't be surprised if they start doing just that. Put a band aid on a furuncle when the blood is poisoned.

                                                                                 

        • Anonymous says:

          So do buildings, cars, garbage bins.

          Should we flatten those as well?

           

  9. Anonymous says:

    If one uses valet parking at the Ritz and Camana Bay then it is reasonably safe.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Side topic:

     

    Why are the pedestrian crossing on West Bay Road (by Royal Palms and Strand) and Camana Bay different from those on Eastern Avenue by Corner Restaurant? The one by Corner is just paint on the road, no lights to warn drivers. Why is this?

    • Anonymous says:

      People that use the cross walk on Eastern Avenue by the Corner restaurant is different from the one on West Bay Road because people that us the cross walk on Eastern Avenue are mostly local who know where they are going but on West Bay Road most of the people are tourist and are more familiar to cross walks with lights as they have in the US and other familiar destinations.

      • Anonymous says:

        What an idiotic response this is. The lights are to warn the drivers of someone wishing to cross the road. How are teh drivers on WB Road different from drivers on Eastern Ave?

      • Anonymous says:

         07:15. In other words the locals that use the Easten Ave crosswalk are less deserving than the foreigners who use the other crossings.To put it simply the Eastern Ave pedestrians are discriminated against.

    • Anonymous says:

      The difference is that Camana Way was built by Dart…Now go and compare anything built by Dart to anything built by the CIG.

  11. Knot S Smart says:

    I wonder if they just made a police report or did they ask for an investigation?….

  12. Anonymous says:

    Simple Formula —

    40K work permits – 3K un-employed Caymanians = Crime 

    36K work permits – 0K Un-employed Caymanians = Crime Free.

    • Anonymous says:

      The only thing simple is you if you think that the Ezzard option would have that effect.

    • Anonymous says:

      wrong, it is easier to steal than to work. Working takes up a lot of free time that can be spent high

      • Anonymous says:

        12:01   Says the Cayman hater,as a thank you to the Caymanian people who provided him with a permit that allows him to live the high life.(which he could not do at home)

    • Anonymous says:

      And the myth of Caymanian unemployment continues….

    • Anonymous says:

      Are you suggesting that all the crime is commited by Caymanians unemployed? And this is the reason they steal and shoot at each other during Carnival? Is there any other stupid ideas you would like to blame on permit holders? What about blaming Mac. That used to work before. Some how you seem idiot enough to work that fomula to make it equal Mac. Lazy donkey, grown donkey, hard donkey men and women with poor excuse. While we trying to make the old people work till they drop we out there supporting this stupid idea about single mothers and fathers. Most or all the criminals are uneducated punks with daddys in Jail and abused mothers

      The solution to your formula is simple. Its called education and so far all the Goverments prefer to treat the people like mushrooms and let the stupid idea about work permit holders is the cause of crime stay at the top of people minds. 2 and 3 and 4th generations of criminals is not going to change by deny a single permit.

      Caymanians and the imported uneducated people need to stop abusing the Goverment. I am sure where ever they come from they could not get a single dime or support. This is the only place in the world thatallow people from run down countries to call themselves Caymanians and tell us how to run the country. If they want to make a difference, go back home and make the noise. Still going on. From Pizza to Plywood. From Bar room to Bank Teller. And we wonder why the turn over of Tellers and construction  is high.Not sure if you smart enought to understand that.

      What the Goverment needs to understand is what Rolly tried to tell them that he found out and spoke about it. But it was not politically correct. So lets pretend that all our children, born here or adopted after status grants are nice little smart angels that should be allowed to come and get any job they they they want. Let us forget about our real Caymanians children and keep supporting all this imported uneducated children, and married to caymanians men and women. Work the old people to the bones. They are the only experienced persons. Lets wait until the lazy doneky men and women reach age 40 and up so we can then consider  them experiened and offer them the jobs. At this rate, the children will be left behind and the old people will be dead on the Job. Cha man, too much foolishness. Make my blood pressue gone up. I gone, gotta go docta now.

      Get the education systemsorted and kick out the spoil brat "special needs" children that cause so much disruption and keeping other students down. No teacher should be in fear to disipline a child at school. I seen this seem children spit out the window at the security guards when the bus is in motion. But I would like to see a real Caymanian security Gaurd get on the bus and slap the pee out of the little "special needs" child, so he or she can go home and tell mommy at midnight or tell daddy on the next visit. A pass should be a pass not a mark  that we fool the children that 50 % is good enough. Thats the only formula that can solve this equation in the Cayman Islands.

      Goverment get your act together. Education should be the priority. No need give away any more status untill we can educated what we already have here now.

    • Annie says:

      Employers should be able to hire whomever is best suited for the position. We should not be forced to hire some uneducated hoochie mama because a Local dude can’t keep his chubby local.

    • anonymous says:

      You could have 40000 jobs open yet people would still struggle to get to them and complete an entire week.

    • Anonymous says:

      I think that experience has taught us all that if you think you have found a simple formula to solve a complex [problem then you are going to be very disappointed when you put it to the test!

      Put another way….What are you on?

  13. Anonymous says:

    The day has arrived. Now even Dart will have to consider if it is worth it to be investing here. When so many other Islands are waiting for such an investor. I am not a Dart fan, But one can only put up with so much red tape and crime.  XXXX

    It will take a very serious wake up call to Caymanians to understand what all this talk is doing to our society by allowing lazy complacency.

    XXXX

    There is a limit to everything, Caymanians complain to each other when investors come to the Islands, and they complain to goverment when no investors come.

    As started this post, the day has arrived, we are at the cross roads. Criminals have reached no barriers. Mr. Derick Haines, please get that gun ready. You can protect private property. Every one has a choice. To live legal or live a life of crime. shoot and ask questions later if possible.

    • Anonymous says:

      08:10    " shoot and ask questions later if possible." I bet you won't think it is a good idea if you or yours is the one shot.

      • Anonymous says:

        The point being that with that one shot to the idiots, the other idiots might think twice and see that there is a very good chance that nobody is playing around with them anymore.

        You have to admit, that it has to be an idiot to do this stupid crimes. They are selfish and making harder for us all. there is no need or no excuse to do such stupid crimes. And I am sure if you check on the school history, this was no surprise.

        We concern ourselves so much with the criminal minded children and adults. We are building so many buildings to lock them up. But still the education system is in shambles. I do not think gun shots is the answer. I know education can change the mindset of generation of criminals. And any parent at Northward hotel that can say they do not want better for their children out here, need to stay locked up.

        I would hope that "mines" is the one kid that would not be such an idiot, trying to ruin this Island. So the chance of being shot by Mr. Derick Haines or run over by Super Baines will be 0.000001%. So of course its not a good idea. But I do not want to wait until they are in prison or stab someone to try to save them. I want that to be instilled in them while they are in school. So that we can have a very productive and legal enviroment to live in.

        I can bet the next time a criminal make that choice to hide and run away from the police to Caribbean Gardens, they will think twice and would prefer to be at Northward Hotel as opposed to JamStone freezer.

        Ohh and poster, another bet. I bet that if that was you or your daughter or son walking down that lane and had that experience you would not be thinking that a gun shot was a bad idea after all. This could have been a lot worse for the victims, and possible trend if not nipped in the bud.

        But no we sit back now and blame Dart for this crime. After all if he did not invest in Camana Bay and that lane, the idiots would be at home doing homework or hard at work. Yeah right.

  14. Anonymous says:

    When i saw the title Robbery In Camana Bay, i thought it was a review of the menu prices in there….

  15. John says:

    If an armed robbery makes the news then your crime is not out of control.  In other countries no one would think twice about a robbery.  It is just how things are.  The fact that all of you are talking and upset about this means that Cayman is still a safe place. 

    • Anonymous says:

      I disagree.

      Many Caymanians remember a time when… the reporter was busy reporting on who was flying away to visit family in the USA or which cow in the middle of the road held up traffic….

      I'm guessing you are either young or a new commer to the island.  The Caymanians who have been here for several generations do not find this acceptable.  It does not matter if the robber was Caymanian or not, it is not acceptable behaviour.

      • Anonymous says:

        That wasn't too long ago. I am a tourist (visiting for 12 years now) and I remember laying on the beach listening to your radio reports( laughing at the news) when the reports were about how many watermelons were stolen out of someone's watermelon patch.

  16. Anonymous says:

    I am utterly disappointed in the PPM and in the new Governor. I thought between the new Government and the new Governor, they would put their foot down and get things back under control to a certain extended. I didn't expect an overnight turn around, but I expected a hell of a lot more than what is beig done.

    This Island remains lawless – no traffic laws enforced, no littering laws enforced, and one can't even frequent a restaurant or bar at night without being afraid that you get mugged on the way to your car.

    So you know what, I may as well go fishing on the next election day…………..

  17. Anonymous says:

    Whaaa?  Things like dat don't happen in Camana-Stepford!

  18. Anonymous says:



    Even our best neighborhoods are turning into slums.  Gated communities with armed guards soon come.

  19. Anonymous says:

    A town centre name change should be considered to reflect the new local flava and experience, "Pirata Bay". The Camana Bay security would look the part and be more effective dressed up in pirate uniform complete with sharp cutlass too.

  20. Anonymous says:

    I'll bet if Derrick Haines had been there they wouldn't have gotten very far.

  21. Anonymous says:

    One can understand the police's inability to keep order in the more lawless areas like West Bay, Bodden Town or the center of George Town.  But the SMB corridor and Camana Bay are meant to be havens away from these places. 

    • Anonymous says:

      15:06 For your information the lawlessness you are referring to (Bodden Town) in your blog, does not apply to my district.  Any lawless occurrence in that town is more than likely dissidents from other districts. They run from one district to another.  You get the picture.

    • Anonymous says:

       Sun, 11/05/2014 – 15:06. I do believe it is such negative opinions that appreciate segregation and increasing gap between the rich and the poor that is making it clear…….this CRIMINAL element is not simply a West Bay issue. Until we stop importing and breeding these criminal elements, it will only get worse. It seems the only persons benefitting are the Jamaicans (increasingly the Indian nationals) who are the main recipients of law enforcement, secuirty and prison officers. 

       

      Remember the goal of the UD and PPM was simply to increase population to 100,000 no one said let's come up with a sound developmental plan since we are manily importing poverty.

      SO here we are facing the start of the worse to come with an almost non-existent middle class, and educated Caymanians scrambling for jobs as MLAs (recruitment drive at local radio stations) because no one is willing to stand up and say enough, put a moratorium start deportation and yes limit the status grants to get this mess under control!

    • Anonymous says:

      Most folks don't understand that police don't make people be good, it is the nature of the society they live in.  When that society's princples and moral fabric has decayed, people then become animalistic, which is what we are witnessing more and more of every day.  If we don't start training our young ones to respect themselves and others from they are young and maintain that all the way through high school, we will be even worse off in years to come.  Ministry of Home Affairs, what is your plan?

      • Anonymous says:

        I was one of those overworked /underpaid civil servants/ single parent. I have a teenager son who was acting up in school and regardless to my workload, I'll always find the time to go to his school, NOT to curse the teachers but to deal with him! Sometimes the teachers were just taking things out of proportion, simply because my child was well known for being the clown of the class but I have NEVER diminished a teacher's authority in front of my child. I never missed a PTA meeting, these meetings are held maybe three to four times inthe course of the student's school year thus I can't understand how the same parents keep forgetting to attend. And a closer look, can revealed that those are the parents of children that are not doing so wonderful in school.

        I teach my child to respect ALL authority that is placed over him and today I am a proud mother of a Honor Graduate. Wake up people! if you allow your child to disrepect authority, the child will have no respect for you as authority neither!

        Most parents are all excited about bringing life to this world but very seldom can face the responsibility to raise decent human beings, it is not about dressing the child with designer clothes or buying expensive gadgets; YOU as a parent are responsible for YOUR child. Babies are cute, but then, they grow!

        Why everybody is so quick to blame police or even political parties about this vipers raised by careless adults? Be involved in your child's life, spend time with your child and know the child's company.

         

         

  22. Cheese Face says:

    Some folks may laugh and poke fun because this happened in Camana Bay, but believe me, if tourists don't feel safe here, they simply won't come back. So like Dart or not, this is no laughing matter. 

  23. Being Realistic says:

    Stupid people, this happened on Camana Way not in Camana Bay!  Read the article and try to comprehend!  Armed robbery is armed robbery regardless of how many dollars are taken…of course the helicopter use was proper.  Stupid people….

    CNS: Camana Way is part of Camana Bay and is promoted as such.

    • Cheese Face says:

      Thanks to CNS for pointing out just how stupid this individual is.

  24. Marcella says:

    Why do some one always link any criminal activity in CAYMAN to Jamaica? Last Saturday it was an irate CAYMANIAN standing outside of Fosters cussing loudly all kind of 10pound words to all passersby. He proudly told me he was Caymanian, I didn' ask. He yelled out about foreigners taking jobs, he was adding so much to his resume that day. He proceeded to tell me i was a female dog and on and on he went.  He waited for me to come out of the store, my husband intervened. Let's get over ourselves and look at our societal issues as our fault. We have educational issues mental health issues, welfare issues, you name it . Take off the rose colored lenses and see Cayman for what it is NOW and WORK towards improvement. Fix Cayman for those who RESIDE here not just for those who drop in. 

    • Anonymous says:

      8;24

       Caymanians have finally come to that point where they refuse to play the dummy any longer. They are  finally addressing the challenges posed on them by inequality and discremination.

      They are flabbergast by; "Equal in an Unequal world"

      I guess why the people refer this behavior as "Jamacians", is because it is very prevalent in that Island. Blocking of public roads and burning car tyres in the streets, using rass clatt word,  has been their way of expressing  unequality and discrimination.

      This is the begining of things to come. Wait until the building industry  start their riot against the people that are ignoring them.

      As I observe, all the expats that got status have started up their own construction businesses and are only colabriating with business partners from their own countries. They have taken full control of the Industry.

      Some owning businesses now and waiting on their status. As soon as they get it they will colabriate with their own country man.

      These expats  will not do business with any Caymanians, they hire cheap labour from countries… from you know where!. Again we know what countries these people are from… let's not get upset about it, it is the fact.

      This unbridled, unregulated, unchecked industry, will eventually cause distruction, enemies and potential threat to  these Islands, should the  Governement not  put a stop to it. There will be more provocative  remarks made, and  demonstrations in the streets.

  25. Whodatis says:

    Welcome to "development" Cayman.

    This latest incident should be celebrated as proof of our fast-track journey to 1st-world metropolis status.

    One thing is for certain, the lower the percentages of Caymanians in Cayman and their makeup of our once booming middle-class, the worst things have become. And who could have expected another result?

    Think-tanks know this, city planning and nation-building speaks to these issues – however, as the typical Caymanian does not represent the individual worthy of the application of such considerations they are disregarded as irrelevant in our case.

    We need leadership with the ability to see beyond "economic wealth" and the self-respect necessary to take a stand against what is being inflicted on our society today.

    Most of us can barely recognize this country anymore. Furthermore, it is understandable if some of our newcomers question what was all the fuss about? They have no idea of the amazing place that Cayman once was and is desperately trying to maintain. Ironically, their very presence is likely a contribution to the societal breakdown that is unfolding before our very eyes – albeit not to be attributed to them as individuals. The problem is the system under which we are now operating and have been for decades.

    Nevertheless, this post will be down-thumbed, trolled and attacked as "xenophobic", racist and all the other standard deflections as of late. Yes, the masses will dismiss these observations and INSIST on MORE OF THE SAME as a means to changing the situation.

    Absolute madness.

    Anyway, as my Granny used to say; "You don't hear you 'ga feel!!"

    Feel it, Cayman. Feel it.

    • Anonymous says:

      So true! Whodatis so true!

      For a better word, our leaders are a bunch of pussies.

      • Whodatis says:

        Yep.

        They dare not upset massa'.

        Apart for the odd few, there is no evidence of the type of leadership that this country actually requires at this moment in time.

        However, this is primarily due to the fact that the need for a particular type of leadership is expertly hidden from the people by way of all the usual tactics.

        In the meantime let's save dogs, promote anti-bullying and wear bright colors for the latest charity organisation … all the while the bigger picture is falling to pieces.

        "You can fool some people sometimes – but you can't fool all the people all the time."

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes lets live in the past when it wasn't safe to travel from district to district and when secrets and problems were hidden away from view.

      "The problem is the system under which we are now operating and have been for decades."

      I beg to differ from this vague statement. The lack of responsiblity and accountability along with the secretive nature of the society contribute greatly to the country's woes..

    • Captain Obvious says:

      It's people like you created the negative relationship between the Caymanians and the Expatriates, both of whom are essential to the Cayman way of life.

      • Whodatis says:

        Actually, as a direct result of the "relationship between the Caymanians and the Expatriates" people like Whodatis were conceived and born into this world.

        But thanks for your contribution anyway.

         

    • Anonymous says:

      "They have no idea of the amazing place that Cayman once was", those lovely rose tinted glasses yuo put on when you look back. Were these amazing times when their was too little employment in the islands, that the men went off to sea or work abroad to send money home?(just like people here do now and get maltreatedand disparaged and even taxed for doing today) Was this the time being unable to venture outside durin the night with out a smoke pot? The fact is all the changes you see have been agreed to or planned by Caymanians. Those furiners you hate and blame all your woes on, cannot be MLA's are not apponted to planning boards etc. Time to stop blaming others and look in the mirror. and while you at it if you want to claim to be a good christian nation remember Leviticus 19.34, or do you just pick and choosethe bits of the bible are easiest to follow. 

      • Whodatis says:

        Ummm … no buddy.

        I spoke to what I have seen personally and I am an 80's baby. Therefore I came along long after the era of when our men "went off to sea or work abroad to send money home".

        Kindly do not attempt to smear me with that "anti-foreigner" brush. I hold my people and our successive governments wholly responsible for the situation in which we find ourselves. Well, to an extent, as we cannot dismiss the supervisory role that the British authorities have maintained over this country from its inception. For we know the UK would have never endorsed or allowed policies that seek to embolden the sense of a national identity and its subsequent qualities of patriotism, which by the way, is issue Number One as it concerns our social and economic breakdown today.

        Lastly, please refrain from shooting bible verses in my direction as we discuss politics, economics and development. What are you, an idiot?!

        • Anonymous says:

          Good comment "WHODATIS". Mature as well.

        • Anonymous says:

          Yes blame the British, now tell me why the British have retained control, when Jamaica took independence. Oh yes Caymanians decided that is what they wanted. Once again look in the mirror for the ones responsible. As for the bible, odesn't Cayman sell itself one being a Strong Christian nation, Gays are unholy, must be arrested and protested against yet they ignore other parts? are you blind or are subjects like equal rights political? As for you being an 80's baby and wanting to go back there, Cayman in the 80's was financed on the back of money launders and very lax banking rules, sorry that ship has sailed, but if you want to back to the days of the "Firm" that is on you.

          • Whodatis says:

            Thanks for clarifying the question at the end of my previous post.

            By the way, the answer is "yes" – in case you're still confused.

      • Anonymous says:

        Ummmm…it sounds like you pick and choose bible verses that you think are convenient. Do you want to follow the whole of Leviticus?… I thought not.

  26. Anonymous says:

    I'm lucky if I have 4 bucks after a night in Camana Bay 🙂

  27. Anonymous says:

    Sort of inevitable. Grand Cayman has degenerated (tragically) into a place where crime is commonplace, like in the rest of the world. As sad as this is, Cayman has evolved in this negative direction, but there is one positive, and this is that compared to other tourist hot spots it is still markedly crime free. I do understand (as a resident who recalls when calling to find out the time resulted in a real person picking up and telling you what it was, at least according to their wristwatch!) that this is a totally sorry situation, but it is the reality today, and as much as I rebel against it with every fibre of my being –  believe me  – it is how it is. We can only pray for a return, in whataever measure, to the old days.

  28. Anonymous says:

    I lived in Jamaica in the late sixties early seventies. It was the most wonderful place in the world…………and then…….so I moved here and……………………

    • Anonymous says:

      So, so sad seems like yesterday but it was long ago, Cayman was lovely, she was the queen of my day and night then 2003 came and took it all away.  Caught like a wild fire out of control, till there was nothing left to burn and nothing left to prove. As the years rolled by I found myself alone and surrounded by strangers that I thought were my friends.  I found myself further and further from my home and I guess I lost my way. There were oh so many roads, I was living to run and running to live. Never worried about paying or about how much I owed. Breaking all the rules that would bend.  I began to find myself searching, searching for shelter again and again.  Against the wind, I'm older now but sill running against the wind.

    • Anonymous says:

      And now there's no-where to go….no-where to run to, no-where to hide…no-where to find peace.

      Sad thing is, you actually have Caymanian parents that encourage this behaviour and i'm Caymanian by the way. If any parent (of an ethnicity) raises their child like he/she is n animal, then you get animalistic behaviour later on and that is usually followed by death or prison with the latter big paid for by the public. According tostatistics, its costs public purse an estimated CI$50,000 per year to house ONE(1) criminal at HMP…

      We need to fix our mess here with a populaton of less than 70,000 we need to sort it out. NOW!

  29. Anonymous says:

    Caymana Bay…welcome to Jamaicayman

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, we know we cant blame ourselves. 

    • Anonymous says:

      Maybe now Mr. Dart will start to get some idea of what he's doing to the economy with his love for Cayman.

      • Anonymous says:

        Mr. Dart needs to hire Caymanian builders for his projects. As i see it, there are only foreigners that have sub-contracts on the hotel site.

        I thought we were going to be the ones to prosper from this agreement, but thats not the case.

        Foreign sub-contractors have  already dug their feet in. All the promisss that the Politicians did,  fell to naught.

      • Captain Obvious says:

        Honestly?! This is Dart's fault, some people are too stupid for thier own good. Apparently the global economic issues are down to a single person, and that person lives in Cayman? That sounds plausable.

    • Anonymous says:

      you're so quick to accuse Jamaicans, but no where in the article does it say anything about the nationality of the individuals committed the crime… stop looking to blame other people, other cultures and other reasons for the problems going on in Cayman. At the end of the day, a lot of the crimes being committed are not being done by expats, but by Caymanians. It is our island, these are our people, and these are our problems – we won't get anywhere by blaming other people.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not even the ones that run about fathring numerous children by diferent mothers and then abandon them before birth? I think you will find a very heavy cultural provenance for such behaviour and it aint Caymanan (or Canadian).

    • Anonymous says:

      it's "Camana"

    • Anonymous says:

      Could the authorities please start being honest about the provenance of the scum committing these crimes? Are they the children of immigrants or Caymanians or both? Are they immigrants themselves, or born Caymanian? What is the mix? Are perceptions that the problem is at least substantially imported accurate? It is only relevant so we can properly identify and address the root of the issue – but cannot without reliable info. All I know is every time I have been a victim of theft the police tell me my belongings are almost certainly in another country. They always seem to mention the same one.

    • Jamaican says:

      That's right, Cayman's crime problem came directly from Jamaica.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thats right because you let in expats with no education, just able to speak english is not good enough.

        Cayman is full of people that are Just plain stupid.

        Your business ownerslike it that way.

         Those street thugs you hire as labor are such trash they couldnt make it in the getto they are from.

        That trash will not be around my children and that is why my children are smarter than yours

        and someday will tell your children what to do.

        Change the law so that the expats that come to work have at least a high school diploma

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes it did – although some was via Honduras. 

  30. Anonymous says:

    4 bucks ?  i guess that was enough for 4  value meal 99cents cheese burgers  lol lol

  31. Anonymous says:

    Oh my

     

  32. Anonymous says:

    Cayman is doing really good for itself……..everyday the news gets worse and worse. Pretty soon we won't have anything left for visitors to come here for and peole livinghere won't be safe in or out of thier homes. Everyone one of us wil be up the creek wihourt a paddle.

  33. Anonymous says:

    No not Camana bay! i tought nothing bad could happen there.

    • Anonymous says:

      It's ok, they'll have security on that road up by Monday

      • Anonymous says:

        Security? Security Guards? well after making a few observations during my usual daily business road trips, I had the biggest laugh when I noticed two pint sized security guards standing around at two business places.  My first thought was "is he really wearing a security guard uniform?" – He was no taller than 4 ft and whilst I understand its not the size that matter, to be realistic here, anyone wanting to commit a crime would probably not be deterred by the size and the fact that they are only equipped with their two bare hands – all I could do was smile then that turned into a big laugh all the way home in traffic.  This place is a joke really! 

  34. Patricia X says:

    Now things are getting serious.  What is going to be done about this? 

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh, it getting serious because it camana bay.  But when it happens in low income areas its not serious right.  Many of us Caymanians don't know what many other Caymanians go through on a daily basis.    Open your eyes people.  

       

      • Anonymous says:

        But this is Camana Bay.  It is not meant to be dodgy and crime infested.

    • Anonymous says:

      Amending section 67 of the Immigration Law to give discretion as to who we let in would help.

      • Anonymous says:

        Ah, not-so-petty racism again.

        • Anonymous says:

          Nope. Simply saying that we should not import troubled youth with no entitlement to live here, without vetting them and their parents.

    • Anonymous says:

      What will be done? The Premier will take a flight to New York to ring the bell on Wall Street!!!

      Then me back and extend Roll-over, then all will be fine…..until the next crime is commited.

       

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, one standard police response is to slash and burn the vegetation in the area. 

    • Anonymous says:

      I'll wager what's going to be done is a really big fence around Caymana Bay, and some ex-special forces types to man the gates.  If that happens it'll be the most popular place on the island.

    • drtisdrt says:

      Just go have another cocktail you slug.

    • Anonymous says:

      duhhh ! what do u think