Jamaican police suspect torture in Tivoli Gardens
(Jamaica Observer): Jamaican security forces have made a number of gruesome discoveries in the area of Tivoli Gardens. Shallow graves — one with the body of a person who was buried standing — and a suspected torture chamber were revealed to the media yesterday more than a week after gunmen engaged the authorities in three days of clashes that resulted in the deaths of more than 73 people.Jamaica Defence Force soldiers told the Observer that they stumbled upon the graves during a search of an area in the community called Rasta City, located off McKenzie Drive. “The area is believed to be a location where thugs would dump and bury the bodies of persons killed in the community of Tivoli Gardens,” a soldier told the Observer.
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I’m curious as to why people are no longer talking about the events in Jamaica. Dudus is still at large. A seemingly corrupt government is still in place and nothing has changed except possibly hundreds of people have been killed. How quickly we forget!
http://jasonslyric.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/war-in-jamrock/
Give us a couple of years and it will be the same here.
You must NEVER forget stories like this when you think of the Cayman Islands. We are a sister of Jamaica.
It starts innoocently enough. A leader of government business creates a Constitution, and then becomes the first Premier. We get all the modern trappings of leadership and luxury that the leading Countries of the World, with large populations and tax-bases can afford – only we can’t.
There are cooks and drivers, and cars with flags on them, and free fuel, and gardeners, and gardening leave, and then one day when the British overseers blow a whistle and say "you can not afford this". There comes a convenient moment when we feel "entitled", or we feel like "someone else is to blame". It is at THAT moment that the leadership, unwilling to awake from their dreamworld cries: "What have you ever done for us?!?" and "We don’t need you!" and "who are you indebted Mother, to talk to us"..
And then there are "referendums" and "votes to succeed" and "rallying of the troops" and "taking back Cayman for the Caymanians" discussions which conveniently shout overtop of the real fiscal overspending and lack of leadership at the root of the problem.
Then one fine day with warm breezes and clear skies, the British lag is lowered, the Caymanian flag changes it’s colors, the former Premier becomes the President and soon thereafter, the Country is drawn into ramparts and sections which divide along the lines of political and ethnic color. Suddenly, seemingly out of the blue – the poorest most gang infested sections of our fair Country – the Watercourse Roads and the Rock Hole Roads have sections where no man goes, with Shallow graves and torture chambers.
Do not write this prognostication of "what might come" to fantasy – to force it out of mind for the discomfort it causes, will only allow it to happen here one day. The more people who know this, who you share this with, the less likely it is to happen here. So what are you waiting for?
You are so right.
Our McJimidad has often spoken of how he wants to copy Jamaican politics, and he has.
Why do you think that McJimidad is so proud to say on every talk show "Well I am late because of the lines of people by my front door this morning who came for my help". Of course he makes the had outs paid for by all of us tax payers but the people believe that he is "giving" them money from his own double salary and pension filled pockets.
Recently we now hear other politicians making the same vote buying statements.
In other countries this is identified as "buying votes" and politicians are charged, arrested and convicted.
But have no fear all you vote buying politicians, the Attorney General will never bring charges against you for this crime.
Please explain to me how one can bury "a person standing" in a "shallow grave"?
Maybe shallow meant to the knees?
When you are dead ( I mean really dead) your body becomes stiff, You can stand a dead person up and the body will stand like a mannequin
The Cuban authorities starve the Cuban people to death, but provide free coffins which are placed in a vault standing. Only problem is after 2 years the remains are dumped and the coffins retreived for use on other deaths or muertos as they are called in Cuba,
That is called recycling in Cuba.
With the great relations between Jamaica and Cuba I would say the Jamaicans have learned a thing or two.
Maybe he was a really short fellow.
It probably means the grave was shallow enough to just cover the body, shallow describing the amount of dirt covering the body rather than the total depth of the grave and making it easier for the police to find.
ever think about when they start doing the same thing here,looks like its no brakes on them coming in here.
It will not happen in Cayman.It will not happen here or if it is started, it will be immediately crushed. Firstly, Cayman is too small for that sort of crime,secondly Cayman is a colony of UK, so External Forces from the mother country will be readily available to crush that level of crime here, Unlike Jamaica, an independent country, where die hearted nationalists would vigorously resist any foreign intrusion such as a batch of marines from the US. Furthermore there would be political implications for whichever Government in power at the time in jamaica,as this would have commited political suicide as well as a breach in the relation with their CARICOM partners. You have to remember the population of Kingston and St. Andrew and its enviorns, which total nearly 952,000. Cayman’s population being between 55,000 and 60,000. This could fit in one corner of the parishes St. Mary or St. Ann. So don,t start getting panicy yet. There might be ambitious copy-cats here but given the above information they would not get far.
Your type of ostrich mentality is dangerous 06/06/2010 – 07:49. A few years ago no one would have thought that today we would have gun and machette weilding thugs robbing in broad day light in these Islands either, yet the unhappy reality is that it is happening and if we do not get a grip on what is taking place with local and imported criminals it will excalate to worse crimes, and who knows where it could end. So, don’t say it will not happen in Cayman but rather say that we must prevent it from happening in these three Cayman Islands.
So the numbers given for the annual murder rate could be completely wrong? Wow … looks like things are worse than I thought over there!
That sound like Sadam works. Tivoli Gardens needs to be gone through with a fine teeth comb, and soldiers need to set up camp there forever. Do not let it start back up.
Why am I not surprised, that just the tip of the iceberg, that is why Jamaica needs outsiders to do the investigation, trusting a local folks is iffy because of the political affiliation all over the place.