Robbers chop at victim
(CNS): A local bar owner was attacked by two armed masked men in the early hours of Thursday morning (15 August) in a violent robbery outside his home. The mugging happened as the man was returning to his home in Careenage, near Grand Harbour in George Town, at around 3am. Police said that as the victim got out of his car and was walking towards his front door, the robbers confronted him. The masked men had what appeared to be handguns and a machete. They threatened the local businessman before chopping him on his hand with the machete. They stole his keys, an iPad mini, a Blackberry and a bag containing medical equipment, before fleeing the scene in a small white van
The injured man was taken to the Cayman Islands Hospital and was released following treatment but was unable to give a description of the robbers.
Category: Crime
Section 16(1) of the Firearms Law allows residents who has been so licensed, to carry firearms for their personal protection and it reads: "No person shall carry any firearm in any public place unless at the time when he carries such firearm he has about his person a Firearm User's (Restricted) Licence authorising him to carry such firearm in such place." So, if you want to have a firearm for personal protection, then you should seek out firearms training and apply to carry one.
More nonsense from Dennie. You would have thought the outcomes of his own legal battles about gun ownership would have stoppoed him spouting on about this (or worse still his gibberrish reading of s.18 he also posts). He misses out the effect of the words "in such place" and inserts "for personal protection" where there is no such inclusion. The licensing of a firearm is linked to the need for which which the firearm licence is sought and "personal protection" won't be thereason. The Commissioner should take note of this attitude of the gun lovers and ensure that every licence very very specifically limits where the weapon can be used. The licences usually do, but you need to be extra careful when you are dealing with these types of people. Someone take Dennie's view and acting on it, like his nonsense interpretation of s.18, risks finding themselves in jail when their lawyer tells them what the law really is and how their use of a firearm unlawfully means they are going be in Northward for a while.
The whole matter of gun licensing should be taken out of the hands of the Police Commissioner who makes up his own policies and acts arbitrarily.
Yes, gun haters like you would like to see me give up, but only losers give up my lad.
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Section 18(1)(a) of the Cayman Islands Firearm Law reads: “No person shall discharge any firearm on or within forty yards of any public road or in any public place except in the lawful protection of his person or property or of the person or property of some other person,” and the exactly is what a firearms licensee lawfully did in the following case: http://centos6-httpd22-php56-mysql55.installer.magneticone.com/o_belozerov/31115drupal622/headline-news/2010/09/07/no-charges-burglar-killing So, your attempts to scare people away from using their lawfully owned firearms for personal protection if necessary is noted, but that right we will vigorously defended.
Another Bar was hit last night in the Prospect area! Criminals are targeting cash based businesses! Owners need protection!
Concealed firearms permit. This is the next step. Which robber is going to cofront a man that doesn't know for sure he had protection on him? If a man chopped after me with a machete best believe someone will say hello to my little friend.
Yes, they have concealed firearms permits in the USA and the USA does not have a gun crime problem (this is sarcasm for you cave dwelling gun lovers). You carry a gun you are 4 times more likely to be shot. Guns in our bars, that is really a recipt for dead people.
Maybe we citizens should carry our own machetes under our car seats and take them oout to walk to the door with on these late night moves. Bet they won't be so brave to run up on us then!
My friend, then the "Law" would arrest us and charge us with a crime, to which we will have to appear in court and most likely pay a fine or worst
I dont understand this, when that other bandit got chopped in his head, the "Law" was so concerend for his well being, when he was found, they even took him to hospital to get treatment on our tab
I bet this victim has to pay for his medical treatment on his own, with the fare of having a disabled hand for the rest of his life, and the robbers, assuming they are even caught, will get sent to north wood hotel on our tab for 6 months where they can enjoy there free boze and drugs.
Local Bar Owners Beware!
3:00AM and waiting on the doorstep? Yes, it sure looks like these thugs are scoping out work patterns and waiting for these Bar Owners.
Looks like personal security is needed. If I owned a bar, I'd be paying a security service (come on you already have hired guards) to see me home at night. What about the next morning bank errand? Such a risky business when targeted for robbery.
These owners need to unite and tackle this targeting?
I agree, the bar owners should consider getting security for things like this. Unfortunately that's just how it is in Cayman these days. This had to be someone who knew where the bar owner lived and that he usually had a good night on Wednesday's and would be returning home with a bag of cash. The report doesn't mention any cash but I bet that's what the robbers were expecting. Hope they find the a**holes and let the bar owner chop them up a bit!
That sounds good except you can bring a bat/handcuffs to a gun fight. The thieves have guns so what is the use of personal security who can't even have pepper spray?
Well that would be good. but what would the guard use ti protect themselves and the bar owner? This should be interesting.
Ask Commissioner Baines if you should use a piece of stick to protect yourself. He seems to think that you fall down and play dead and wait for the Police to come and protect you.
Maybe we should not have allowed the ex-Governor to leave Cayman with the cow cod presented to him by Baines. We need it for our protection. After all it can't be illegal to use if Baines had one readily available to present to him – no doubt as a laugh at Ozzie and our expense.
Local Bar Owners Beware!
3:00AM and waiting on the doorstep? Yes, it sure looks like these thugs are scoping out work patterns and waiting for these Bar Owners.
Looks like personal security is needed. If I owned a bar, I'd be paying a security service (come on you already have hired guards) to see me home at night. What about the next morning bank errand? Such a risky business when targeted for robbery!?!
Online there is a website called neighborhoodscout. It would be interesting to enter our crime statistics into a site like this and see where we rank next to another US town or towns with similar populations. I bet the RCIPS would not take that challenge?
It appears the criminals are scoping out business owners and know their routines. It's scary that law abiding citizens are being monitored by criminals and quite the opposite where criminals are not being monitored by the RCIPS and their probation officers.
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What acrying shame
I just priced out a holiday for over the X-mas holidays and for the price they are asking (over $3,000 for the most inexpensive hotel on 7MB and horrible flight times) I would expect the crime rate to be low. That was just for a solo traveller and not bringing down the family. If the crime rate is going to go up and up, please lower the price of the hotels and air fare!
Sorry luv, we can't! We NEED the $$$$$
Good one! LOL!! But, don't you also need tourists?
actually we got more than ever tourists right now, even in hurricane season..need more hotels and better security. 99.9% of toruists leave this island with a mainly good impression..so there is still hope but action needs to be taken by CIG and police for sure
I stopped travelling to Cayman. I value my life more than the sand.
Really? Where do you live?
Sorry, I am not a troll. I live in the cold northeast US and am just pricing out a holiday for myself and my family. Outrageous prices currently with terrible air flight times. Will keep watch along with watching your local news.
Actually Cayman Airways has excellent winter fares from NYC (JFK) and leaves JFK Mon, Thur, Sat, Sun at 8:45 a.m.
The place is riddled with gun toting crack heads. You get much better value for money and safety at all inclusive facilities on other islands. Other islands will also be more beautiful and have more history and culture.
Rubbish.
And the escalation of violence begins…..very sad….just a matter of time before someone is killed in a mugging. I grieve for my island
A similar event happened not so long ago. Seems like a pattern, and enough to suggest some kind of organized crime??? I wonder who would be on duty during the night time to tip these masked men off??? Go figure!!!!
When you catch the bastards, attempted murder – nothing less. And Howell, the accomplices that did not chop – are they “petty” criminals?
Was the iPad mini and Blackberry GPS enabled?
i saw something but it's been so long i forgot what i seen.
its getting bad here!
So it's war then. Civilians and bandits now wielding machetes.
Might as well be living in the Congo…………..
Sometimes it feels like we are 17.27…
Terrible. These guys are pretty brazen. "If' they are caught and 'if' they get sent to jail..
Referring to recent events..appears they don't have to worry about staying behind bars
for too long either. Looks like an allround win..win..situation for them with no
worries..Pretty sad situation. Need to get tough with these guys so they will think
twice before commiting violent robberies. All these acts don't help the tourist
economy any. The worst thing is the pain and suffering their victims have to go through.
These guys think they are big shots but are nothing but immature, selfish,lazy little pea brain
thugs.
Second such incident recently…people who work late or play late really need to be aware of their surroundings when they get home..bright lights are always a deterrent. Chopping the guy is sick…recover well and quickly, and do not let these punks make you afraid..we got to catch these two..
Make guns available for everyone with clean police record and good recomendations…then those thugs will not know who is packing heat or not….they will think twice.
Its getting ridiculous. Compare our crime rates with a town of 55000 people in any civilized country and you will see there is something going seriously wrong.
You struck the nail on the head. Thank you for saying the most obvious fact!
What's the difference..? Unless I am missing the obvious a small town will have the same problems associated with different economic and social status' etc.
Except we are not a town of 55,000 people. Regardless of actual political status we operate as a small island nation with all its attendant problems. That's not to say we should not be concerned or take steps to deal with the problem.
You are right – we should have even less crime, because as an island, there is nowhere for criminals to run away to and they should be very easily caught.
Perhaps one of the most pointless comments I have every seen on CNS.
More patrols please at Careenage. They will not be as lucky if they come to my door, you will find them in the canal the next day.
Whoever gets the opppurtunity to dump anyone of their axxes, make sure you do a good job. Don't wait for the police, when you call they may be snoring and didn't hear the phone.