Temp UK cops prepare for new beats

| 22/04/2010

(CNS): Having arrived on island yesterday the fourteen police officers from the United Kingdom that have been brought to the Cayman Islands to offer temporary support met with senior RCIPS officers this morning to prepare for their new beats. The officers are here to help deal with the recent surge in violent crime, give local officers who have all been working double shifts a reprieve, and to assist in solving the number of outstanding cases. Police confirmed today that the UK cops were from police services in the Staffordshire, West Mercia and West Midlands areas of England.

The team was briefed today (Thursday 22 April) and given an introduction to Cayman by senior RCIPS officers. The officers are here at this stage for just a four week detachment to supplement and assist local officers in ongoing investigationsinto serious crimes the RCIPS has said.
“These officers hold expertise and experience in a range of policing disciplines,” a police statement via GIS said. The officers were welcomed by Commissioner of Police David Baines, who says he anticipates positive results from their support and interaction with their local colleagues, and with the public in general.
The newcops also met with Chief Superintendent John Jones, Chief Inspector Peter Kennett, Superintendent Marlon Bodden and Detective Sergeant Dave Morrison.
The commissioner has stressed that the officers are not a task force and are here to help fill personnel gaps until the current RCIPS recruitment drive is complete and the service is closer to being fully staffed.
The RCIPS has not commented on whether any of these officer have worked in the Cayman Islands before.
Keith Bristow the head of crime business at the Association of Chief Police Officers told the BBC that this was an excellent opportunity for the four West Midlands regional police forces to unite and provide support to the Cayman Islands during a challenging time. "All of our officers and staff are dedicated to protecting people from harm and this is a really positive opportunity to share resources and provide some excellent development opportunities for our officers," he said.
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  1. Anonymous says:

    If I understand this correctly, the local police have been working double shifts, have successfully made arrests and probably have a huge backlog of paperwork to get through to ensure that convicitons are successful. The commissioner is able to pull strings and get some extra hands on deck at short notice. The UK is actually helping out for a change AND PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING??? Have you ever heard the expression ‘don’t look a gift horse in the mouth’?

    You have 14 trained, experienced and motivated officers fresh on the beat. They don’t have the community ties but they can be completely impartial because of it. Why must some of you always dwell on the negatives? It’s probably the same people who complain that the police are useless and the UK does nothing for Cayman!!!

  2. Anonymous says:

    My question is tho, How Many caymanian cop where put out of a job the replace these 14 new ones ?



    • 1 Samuel 14:13 says:

      And the next question will be how much will takings drop at Dunkin Donuts when these cops are out of work?

  3. Anonymous turtle meat says:

    WHEN WILL THEY RETURN   when it was made public that thesae officers were coming, the commissioner said that they would be here for six (6) weeks.  he is now saying that they will be here until the recruitment process is over. i wish we had know when that will be.  my fellow police officers let me tell you these people has come to take over.the commissioner is in the process of putting an english officer head of every department.   this is what you call controling by the english man.do you all remember how it was in the eighties & nineties. let me warn you all the english are best at concouring &dividing, once they can accomplish this they are happy. but yet some of us help them accomplish this.   my local officers when are put to work along side you you will discover that they do not know anything about policing.some of them will tell you that they had only did beat patrol since joining thier service, butsome will make you believe that they has done it all .onanother point it has been some time we have not have any report of gun crime. the shooters are locked up.  but i bet you the english officers will get credit for it   just watch and see

    • My2cents says:

      If all you are worried about is who gets credit for what, you’re in the wrong job.

    • Anonymous says:

      lol… I see your ratings. As a Police officer, I must say you are bold to comment on a government matter when you are suppose to be working for them. The norm is Police officers should be quiet and just obey. But I hope you let no one stop you from expressing your views. Just be like what the Bible says, "wise like a serpent, but [as much as possible] harmless as a dove."

      Many Caymanians, sadly even our politicians, have a false sense of security and democracy still being dependent subjects under the imperial rule of the corrupt United Kingdom. We have sold ourselves to a constitution that allows them to ride us, even our future generations like donkeys. Yet everyone is so drug up about how good and english they are and this and that

    • Isabella Reyes Flores says:

      Please keep watching, because they will be placed behind the steering wheel of all police cars and trucks.

      • Alan Nivia says:

        When did you develop your problem with authority?

        • Isablla Reyes Flores says:

          Have not and never had any problem with authority.  Its the body of the foreign authority who continue to abuse the local  population,  Not by helping to make a difference, but by spliting the community in two parts.    Care to repeat the words ‘SPIT’ 

          • O'Really says:

            Exactly how did SPIT break " the community into two parts"?

            The then Governor and some others, with either more insight or a greater vested interest, supported SPIT. But the general community, Caymanian and expat, deplored the behaviour publicly associated with SPIT. As an Englishman what was disclosed was an embarrassment, but not one which placed me in a camp different  from my Caymanian friends.

            We may each have our favourite SPIT incident. My chart topper is the arrest of Justice Henderson and the consequences which followed. If my memory serves me well, key roles were reserved in this debacle for two senior Caymanian civil servants, still employed and apparently unsanctioned. 

            SPIT was unfortunate, but anyone who takes the trouble to understand the role played by expats and Caymanians in it will realise that there is enough greed, hubris and incompetence for both communities, no need to split them.

    • Voice of Reason says:

       Such poor spelling and grammar. Such is reflected in the quality of your written opinion. At the time of writing this you have 22 down thumbs and 3 thumbs in favour of your poorly written comment. Enough said. 

      • Dick Shaughneary says:

        Your are no George Orwell yourself, Voice of Reason.  "Such is reflected in the quality of your written opinion"?  The spelling is correct, I will grant you that.  But there is more to intelligible expression than accurate spelling.  That sentence was ghastly, truly ghastly. 

        And did the poor English alarm not go off when you typed "Enough said"?  Or are you auditioning for presenter’s position on a second rate, early 90’s youth culture show?

    • Citizen of the World says:

      Don’t be so ignorant.  And don’t be pissed off now because England is regulating and helping "Caymanian" officers do their jobs.  You seem to forget….CAYMAN IS A BRITISH TERRITORY!!  God help us if we were to ever go independent.  With the clowns we have in office, and the incompetent (or inexperienced) police officers, I’m happy about the British prescence.

      The RCIPS is not doing their job efficiently.   "do you all remember how it was in the eighties & nineties"….when life was easy and you didn’t have to exert yourself?  Yeah, I bet you miss those days.  Being a public servant is a privilege, not a right.  If you do your job well, then you deserve it; if you’re lazy, your job should be given to someone who gives a damn, regardless of their nationality.


    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t know if I should be thankful or cry.

      Thankful – because I am glad that you made thepost and we don’t see very many from members of the police force. I for one would like to see many more.

      Cry – because your post seems to reflect the literacy level and clarity of logic common to Cayman’s law enforcement officers.

      In your professional capacity as an officer of the law one of your functions is to write reports that are used as evidence in court. I have always wondered why so many people are arrested and then never charged. Could it be that it is impossible to obtain a successfully prosecution when the police report, the foundation of a charge and a serious legal document, is riddled with errors and struggles with structural clarity.

      You make mention of the 80s and 90s in familiar employment terms, that would indicate that you are an officer with seniority, if not a senior officer, and probably now too mature and set in your way to educate. Since you speak with a great sense of camaraderie and equality to your fellow officers in your post, I can only assume that they are on the same functional level as you are, so this standard must be nearly universal throughout the force.

      Over the last few months Cayman has been begging for significant improvements in policing. After reading your post I think I have some understanding of the entrenched problem that the commissioner is faced with. Apparently he can’t change the culture of the force, as so eloquently illustrated by your post, and he can’t fire police officers easily. And yet he must solve serious criminal problems and get meaningful convictions.

      Even with the hiring of additional officers from overseas he is still fighting the battle with one hand tried behind his back and now Caymanians are complaining about the new English officers even before they arrive.

      Well my fellow Caymanians, who are so quick to complain about foreigners taking jobs from Caymanians, read the post above and ask yourself if that level of legal literacy will stand up in a court of law or protect you in a domestic dispute.

      • what a mess says:

         AMEN. Thank you for posting such a moving comment. You are absolutely right in everything you have said above. I am  a young Caymanian, ever so proud to be, but on the other hand disappointed to read such ignorant ‘fluff’ from certain people, and an officer at that??? Not cool, not setting a good example…


        Help is help!!!


      • Anonymous says:

        That post was just a joker – trying to give a negative impression & satisfy his weird sense of humour.  Don’t respond to this farse

  4. Anonymous says:

    CNS is there still no up date on those arrested during the April 20th drug bust? Or is it being swept under the rug yet again?

    • What a Surprise says:

      Yes, it is being swept under the carpet, or at least part of it, because who one of the people arrested is, and CNS I have not mentioned no names but everyone knows so you can print this.

      • Isablla Reyes Flores says:

        What a Surprise, That is why people who live in GLASS HOUSES should not throw stones.

    • Anonymous says:

      Anonymous, guess what, while police was rounding up that boat, another came in.   The police need to be aware of what is happening. it is always two boats.

    • Anonymous says:

      I understand they found a thousand pounds of ganja and cocaine. So… the RCIP is not working eh?  And I guess the Brits are here to do better.

      Hmmm… It amazes me how so many would criticize the RCIP for not doing any work. In the United States they would support their troops and police officers.

      Here… we have no respect for our own

      • Anonymous says:

        Haven’t you read the U.S. news lately?  Pitiful complaints in regard to the unfair treatment of their soldiers (especially the physically injured & traumatised)

  5. Well…as a Caymanian, I always say, time will tell

    If this a positive moveor negative one… it always does

    About the conspiracy rhetoric, let’s say, I have one eye open and one eye close… anything is possible these days


  6. Isabella Reyes Flores says:

    I do hope they are given some conselling in how to speak to the natives, because many of them has no manners and respect for the native people.

    • Warren Street says:

      Well given your previous post about not answering any questions fromthe police, my experience is that those that are rude and difficult with the police generally get the behaviour reciprocated (quite rightly in my view).

  7. Anonymous says:

    All these officers should stay if possible, I miss the days of rigid law and order back in the 60s, 70s and 80.  Our police department need a new approach to crime  the new officers are just what we need well trained officers.

    • Anonymous says:

      why not make more efforts to recruit Caymanian officers, they are making   excuses to bring English officers. Look at the ages of the officers and judge for yourself and draw your conclusions. Do you see something like an old boys’s club here?